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Breaking – Massive Train Derailment in East Palestine Ohio, Shelter in Place Issued

 
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I’ve got plenty of friends and family in Beaver County, PA. Word is that some of the tank cars are carrying vinyl chloride. There are over 20 crews on scene, with more on the way. All of them are volunteer fire departments. They’re having difficulty finding water hookups and are pumping from nearby sources…most frozen over. They’re having difficulty getting the fires out. Engines were able to decouple and have rolled away from the scene. Another train going the opposite way and was stopped in time, about a mile or so from the derailment. That train has backed away.
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I’ve got plenty of friends and family in Beaver County, PA. Word is that some of the tank cars are carrying vinyl chloride. There are over 20 crews on scene, with more on the way. All of them are volunteer fire departments. They’re having difficulty finding water hookups and are pumping from nearby sources…most frozen over. They’re having difficulty getting the fires out. Engines were able to decouple and have rolled away from the scene. Another train going the opposite way and was stopped in time, about a mile or so from the derailment. That train has backed away.
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I think of these kinds of scenarios everytime I pass by the new cracker plant!
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Thanks for the in depth update! Glad the crew is alright! Stay safe out there and look forward to any more details. I never gave the extreme cold we’re experiencing a thought, but absolutely makes sense.
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Will do, we have a computer system called cab signals and Ptc, sometimes the signal flips from green to a stop signal and the cpu freaks out and slows the train down because it’s recognizing a stop signal. This sudden jerk caused a derailment in Ravenna a few months ago in some dudes back yard, wondering if that’s what did it here too.
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Given this is your route, you don't sound the slightest bit concerned about your future trips given the recent history and tonight.

How are you really stomaching this considering? Stones aside, Brother.
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Is crews rarely get hurt and I’ve only derailed once in a decade. My biggest concern is making an error at work that causes something like this, besides this derailment is giving me extended free time off.
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I'm a tradesman in a very dark and dangerous one that see's many maimed and/or killed, tis why I ask. It takes a special sort.

Stay safe, Brother, I appreciate and completely understand your response.
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Will do, we have a computer system called cab signals and Ptc, sometimes the signal flips from green to a stop signal and the cpu freaks out and slows the train down because it’s recognizing a stop signal. This sudden jerk caused a derailment in Ravenna a few months ago in some dudes back yard, wondering if that’s what did it here too.
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Given this is your route, you don't sound the slightest bit concerned about your future trips given the recent history and tonight.

How are you really stomaching this considering? Stones aside, Brother.
 Quoting: Daniel's Window


Is crews rarely get hurt and I’ve only derailed once in a decade. My biggest concern is making an error at work that causes something like this, besides this derailment is giving me extended free time off.
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I'm a tradesman in a very dark and dangerous one that see's many maimed and/or killed, tis why I ask. It takes a special sort.

Stay safe, Brother, I appreciate and completely understand your response.
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Thank you you as well.
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I’ve got plenty of friends and family in Beaver County, PA. Word is that some of the tank cars are carrying vinyl chloride. There are over 20 crews on scene, with more on the way. All of them are volunteer fire departments. They’re having difficulty finding water hookups and are pumping from nearby sources…most frozen over. They’re having difficulty getting the fires out. Engines were able to decouple and have rolled away from the scene. Another train going the opposite way and was stopped in time, about a mile or so from the derailment. That train has backed away.
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I think of these kinds of scenarios everytime I pass by the new cracker plant!
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Oh man, that place…a horrifying thought if something goes sideways there. Every town along the river and through that valley would be uninhabitable. It’s like science fiction seeing that place…especially at night.
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Anyone else following the news of this derailment out of East Palestine, Ohio? Several local outlets have reported the train consisted of 100 oil tankers, 50-70 of which are now engulfed in flames. I’ve heard mixed reports about a small refinery also be involved. Latest I’ve seen on Twitter was a report that the refinery seems to be still intact and not damaged or on fire.

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There is a road crossing there where we pass a gas station, it kind of bottle neck and the track is only 50 feet from the gas station. I’m wondering if we clipped that, a Texaco I want to say but I just know a blue and red logo I believe.
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All Beaver County fire units have been ordered to evacuate to Ohio, as the prevailing winds are pushing the flames towards them. The fire is out of control currently.
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Anyone know the railroad involved?

Norfolk and Southern and Wheeling and Lake Erie railroads have trackage in that area.
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I’ve got plenty of friends and family in Beaver County, PA. Word is that some of the tank cars are carrying vinyl chloride. There are over 20 crews on scene, with more on the way. All of them are volunteer fire departments. They’re having difficulty finding water hookups and are pumping from nearby sources…most frozen over. They’re having difficulty getting the fires out. Engines were able to decouple and have rolled away from the scene. Another train going the opposite way and was stopped in time, about a mile or so from the derailment. That train has backed away.
 Quoting: Larphillips


I think of these kinds of scenarios everytime I pass by the new cracker plant!
 Quoting: The Don Of Nantucket


Oh man, that place…a horrifying thought if something goes sideways there. Every town along the river and through that valley would be uninhabitable. It’s like science fiction seeing that place…especially at night.
 Quoting: Larphillips


The Beaver Valley Mall could be wiped out and then all the many stores and businesses there would be gone for good. verysad
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Anyone know the railroad involved?

Norfolk and Southern and Wheeling and Lake Erie railroads have trackage in that area.
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It’s a Norfolk and Southern train.
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I’ve got plenty of friends and family in Beaver County, PA. Word is that some of the tank cars are carrying vinyl chloride. There are over 20 crews on scene, with more on the way. All of them are volunteer fire departments. They’re having difficulty finding water hookups and are pumping from nearby sources…most frozen over. They’re having difficulty getting the fires out. Engines were able to decouple and have rolled away from the scene. Another train going the opposite way and was stopped in time, about a mile or so from the derailment. That train has backed away.
 Quoting: Larphillips


I think of these kinds of scenarios everytime I pass by the new cracker plant!
 Quoting: The Don Of Nantucket


Oh man, that place…a horrifying thought if something goes sideways there. Every town along the river and through that valley would be uninhabitable. It’s like science fiction seeing that place…especially at night.
 Quoting: Larphillips


The Beaver Valley Mall could be wiped out and then all the many stores and businesses there would be gone for good. verysad
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LOL…II haven’t been to that mall in ages, but I heard it’s mostly a ghost mall.
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WOW LETS GIVE ANOTHER 50 BILLION TO UKRAINE...

THIS SHOWS THEY NEED IT MORE THAN WE DO...

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Anyone know the railroad involved?

Norfolk and Southern and Wheeling and Lake Erie railroads have trackage in that area.
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Yes it’s NS, this is my route from Conway pa to Toledo. A 32n which we usually build in Conway pa, conductor could have left a hand brake on when building or the extreme cold caused something to happen or both.
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Prepare for weeks of this shit
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I think of these kinds of scenarios everytime I pass by the new cracker plant!
 Quoting: The Don Of Nantucket


Oh man, that place…a horrifying thought if something goes sideways there. Every town along the river and through that valley would be uninhabitable. It’s like science fiction seeing that place…especially at night.
 Quoting: Larphillips


The Beaver Valley Mall could be wiped out and then all the many stores and businesses there would be gone for good. verysad
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LOL…II haven’t been to that mall in ages, but I heard it’s mostly a ghost mall.
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It was the spot of spots in the 80's and 90's!
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Anyone know the railroad involved?

Norfolk and Southern and Wheeling and Lake Erie railroads have trackage in that area.
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It’s a Norfolk and Southern train.
 Quoting: Larphillips


They had a garbage train derailment just up the river from me only a few weeks ago.

A lot of the track their locals run on is in pretty rough shape.

You'd think a class one would have the money to maintain their track but apparently not...
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Just heard from the boys that a defect detector caught a critical alarm, this means a scanner on the tracks detected something funky in east Palestine. A radio transmission goes off in our cab and apparently they couldn’t stop the train in time. Freak incident according to what my coworkers are saying.
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I’ve got plenty of friends and family in Beaver County, PA. Word is that some of the tank cars are carrying vinyl chloride. There are over 20 crews on scene, with more on the way. All of them are volunteer fire departments. They’re having difficulty finding water hookups and are pumping from nearby sources…most frozen over. They’re having difficulty getting the fires out. Engines were able to decouple and have rolled away from the scene. Another train going the opposite way and was stopped in time, about a mile or so from the derailment. That train has backed away.
 Quoting: Larphillips


I think of these kinds of scenarios everytime I pass by the new cracker plant!
 Quoting: The Don Of Nantucket


Oh man, that place…a horrifying thought if something goes sideways there. Every town along the river and through that valley would be uninhabitable. It’s like science fiction seeing that place…especially at night.
 Quoting: Larphillips


Yeah the place is directly to my north and even right now looking through the woods next to my house toward it it looks like the firey glow that was at the begining of the movie the Road.

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Oh man, that place…a horrifying thought if something goes sideways there. Every town along the river and through that valley would be uninhabitable. It’s like science fiction seeing that place…especially at night.
 Quoting: Larphillips


The Beaver Valley Mall could be wiped out and then all the many stores and businesses there would be gone for good. verysad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77124500


LOL…II haven’t been to that mall in ages, but I heard it’s mostly a ghost mall.
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It was the spot of spots in the 80's and 90's!
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hesright
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Just heard from the boys that a defect detector caught a critical alarm, this means a scanner on the tracks detected something funky in east Palestine. A radio transmission goes off in our cab and apparently they couldn’t stop the train in time. Freak incident according to what my coworkers are saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83589711


Freak incident is probably the most likely, but could certain kinds of sabotage look like a freak incident?
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Anyone know the railroad involved?

Norfolk and Southern and Wheeling and Lake Erie railroads have trackage in that area.
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It’s a Norfolk and Southern train.
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They had a garbage train derailment just up the river from me only a few weeks ago.

A lot of the track their locals run on is in pretty rough shape.

You'd think a class one would have the money to maintain their track but apparently not...
 Quoting: Devoted Follower 84985188


They maintain it slot because Amtrak runs on it, I have to contact the foreman working on the track before we go by them and I was doing that all summer. The true issue is the rail car conditions, the weight of the train and winding terrain in regards to this specific route.
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I’ve got plenty of friends and family in Beaver County, PA. Word is that some of the tank cars are carrying vinyl chloride. There are over 20 crews on scene, with more on the way. All of them are volunteer fire departments. They’re having difficulty finding water hookups and are pumping from nearby sources…most frozen over. They’re having difficulty getting the fires out. Engines were able to decouple and have rolled away from the scene. Another train going the opposite way and was stopped in time, about a mile or so from the derailment. That train has backed away.
 Quoting: Larphillips


I think of these kinds of scenarios everytime I pass by the new cracker plant!
 Quoting: The Don Of Nantucket


Oh man, that place…a horrifying thought if something goes sideways there. Every town along the river and through that valley would be uninhabitable. It’s like science fiction seeing that place…especially at night.
 Quoting: Larphillips


Yeah the place is directly to my north and even right now looking through the woods next to my house toward it it looks like the firey glow that was at the begining of the movie the Road.

manhole5


And except for a few stores the BVM is a mere shadow of it's former self


Not much sleep for me tonight it seems.
 Quoting: The Don Of Nantucket


Stay safe!
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I think of these kinds of scenarios everytime I pass by the new cracker plant!
 Quoting: The Don Of Nantucket


Oh man, that place…a horrifying thought if something goes sideways there. Every town along the river and through that valley would be uninhabitable. It’s like science fiction seeing that place…especially at night.
 Quoting: Larphillips


Yeah the place is directly to my north and even right now looking through the woods next to my house toward it it looks like the firey glow that was at the begining of the movie the Road.

manhole5


And except for a few stores the BVM is a mere shadow of it's former self


Not much sleep for me tonight it seems.
 Quoting: The Don Of Nantucket


Stay safe!
 Quoting: Larphillips


Thanks my friend...cheers
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Just heard from the boys that a defect detector caught a critical alarm, this means a scanner on the tracks detected something funky in east Palestine. A radio transmission goes off in our cab and apparently they couldn’t stop the train in time. Freak incident according to what my coworkers are saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83589711


Freak incident is probably the most likely, but could certain kinds of sabotage look like a freak incident?
 Quoting: Larphillips


It’s possible but we’ve had a lot of issues on this line. Very winding and a huge grade up the hill towards east Palestine, that and the cold weather. I run this route everyday I’d highly highly doubt sabotage sorry to be a buzzkill lol
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I have new iPhone working out autocorrect my apologies.
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Just heard from the boys that a defect detector caught a critical alarm, this means a scanner on the tracks detected something funky in east Palestine. A radio transmission goes off in our cab and apparently they couldn’t stop the train in time. Freak incident according to what my coworkers are saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 83589711


Freak incident is probably the most likely, but could certain kinds of sabotage look like a freak incident?
 Quoting: Larphillips


It’s possible but we’ve had a lot of issues on this line. Very winding and a huge grade up the hill towards east Palestine, that and the cold weather. I run this route everyday I’d highly highly doubt sabotage sorry to be a buzzkill lol
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No…no buzzkill at all. Just needed to ask the question. I appreciate your answer.
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Not my photo…pulled from a FB group in the area.

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