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| Yadayada User ID: 416877  United States04/16/2008 12:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Firstly: NO ONE is "innocent" in the first place. Romans 3:23 For ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Secondly: Look at Proverbs 16:4 The Lord hath made all things for Himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil. And last but not least: Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God. If paraphrased into more modern language it possibly means this: Everyone has been born into a sin condition of the spiritual nature, and because God is holy NONE of us can approach His perfection. God made everything, every person, and every situation for His own purposes; even the wicked, so that in the Day of God's wrath there will be those that will fulfill His purpose. God treats everyone the same. There will be the wicked who (seem to) prosper and have great lives but spend their eternity apart from God. And the righteous in Jesus who experience devastation, poverty, persecution, disease, and whatever else you would call suffering, but spend their eternity in God's glorious presence. Makes perfect sense to me. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 247140 United States04/16/2008 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He also said "I knew you before you were born". Do you remember? Did the story start when you popped out? You act like it did. I'm afraid this goes a long ways back. And exactly, where are we? Is this the prize? Or, is it here you will you have trials and tribulations and be refined by the fire? |
Starbug  User ID: 405948 United States04/16/2008 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is he Evil? Quoting: DirtyDawgsDoes he not exist? Or is there a bigger plan? What amazes me, is that in our modern age, mankind at large, still has not pondered seriously, our relationship with our Creator. After all this time, we still view "God" as some "grandfather-figure" with nothing better to do than to tend to our needs-as if earth was his garden! God does not "let" anybody do anything. We do all that is done by our decision to do it. Man creates the evil. Consider this; God is so much more than you imagine. God is in everything-His essence is the "life-force!" This life force is for the lack of a better word, neutral. How it's used is determined by who is tapping into it. Hitler might use it one way, while Gandhi uses it another. Here's the deal-God once became man. As Jesus He "tried" to teach us-to wake us up to our place in His creation. He "role-modeled" the ideal human but, instead of listening to Him and understanding the Truth, we failed to get pass the "bells & whistles" of His Word-instead of adhering to his Teachings and prospering accordingly, we made Him a God and worshipped Him! We totally missed His point! So, disappointed by our behavior, God left us. But, before leaving, He planted, within each of us, His Holy Spirit. That quiet-voice that guides and directs you in the righteous way belongs to God. If you will only listen to that voice, you will find the Way. No matter how hard you try, you cannot escape the Truth of that Voice because, God is with you. Still, you do have freewill so, you can defy God. It is, after all, your life to live. I am in no way a guru or even all that enlightened. What I say is what I believe-based on my own personal experience. For the better part of my life, I have sought to truly understand our relationship with our Creator and to discover what life was all about. The conclusion that I came to (so far) is that the reason for all the confusion about God & life is due to all the confliction between what we are being taught and what we feel in our heart. Like I mentioned earlier, we have inside of us, the quiet-voice of God directing us in all that we say, think, and do. This wisdom is our guide. We can use it or we can elect not to use it-it's our choice. We have freewill. I believe the reason God gives us direction, is because, He wants us to be a part of His Plan. He wants us to be co-creators in His Creation. We simply have to follow our heart-listen to God's lead. And, remember, God, as Jesus, gave us the blueprint to a beautiful life. All we have to do is follow His Word. Perhaps the hardest part about understanding and appreciating our relation to God, is knowing exactly what God is. God is everything-all that is, is of God. He is the essence of life. If God was reduced to His most finite being what we would see is energy-light. As science will tell you, matter is nothing more than condensed energy-compacted light. We too, are energy-light, at our most basic being. Still, do not under-estimate the intelligence of such a state. Simply removing our layers, does not strip away our being-our consciousness-our personality. In our primal state, we remain every bit the person we are when fully intact with our skin on. Other than aesthetics, we are the same. To understand my point better, imagine dreaming. In dreams, we usually participate but we don't see ourselves. We know we're there because; we're doing stuff-right? The same is true when we are in our most finite state of energy-present but without the human-uniform. I say that to say this-God is, for the most part, spirit. Yes, He can take any form He wishes but, for practical understanding, He is usually in His energy-light form. And, we, having been created by God, in His image, etc. share His essence. That's right-we are the same as God, once removed (from Him, the original source.) We are gods! Don't take my word for it-God, as Jesus, mentions this in the Bible. For a quick reference, see John 10:35. Here, He is reminding a group of Jews who are questioning Him, that they are gods (better to read verses 31-39 for perspective.) The point being this; we are made-up of the very same essence of our Creator. We share God's abilities-His power! This is ours by birthright. We do not have to do anything to own it-it's ours (end of story!) Why do we not realize this? Because, The Powers That Be do not want to share their power, their prestige, their wealth, etc. That's why we are discouraged in our belief in God. Even when we are taught about God, we are taught in archaic terms, storybook style, or whatever other way the Church can think of to belittle the significance of our inheritance. It comes down to greed-the rich and powerful do not want to share-bottom line. That's why TPTB provide so many distractions to the public at large-movies, television, ballgames, music-so on and so forth-anything to take your focus away from God and your right to enjoy a full life. TPTB are throwing you peanuts and telling you, "It’s the good-life" when in reality it's nothing more than a cheap imitation! So, what do we do? How can we get what's ours? First of all, we stop cowering to TPTB. We remember that all of us has the right to be, who we were created to be-sons/daughters of God. And, nobody has the right to take away our inheritance. Next is the hardest part of all-we have to think outside of the box! All of our life, we have been lied to about God and how our relationship to Him works. When God designed life, He did so, in such a way, that we would truly be able to fully exercise our freewill. In other words, we could actually have the life we dreamed of by simply bringing it into being. There is an art to this process but it's all in the mind. Something that we should keep in mind as we go about creating our own life is that God has a Plan of His own, too. That's why we see certain people participating in "divine-endeavors." Of course, these people have the ability to consent to their roles. That's the beauty of freewill-it allows us choice and, at the same time, it relieves God of favoritism (perhaps the only people not given the same latitude as the rest of us in this matter, is God's chosen people-the Jews. The Jews were chosen by God-gifted with the Truth and instructed to be a blessing to humanity concerning this matter so, their relationship with God is certainly different.) In order to create the life we want, we have to understand that everything is made-up of the essence of God. This essence, for the purpose of creation, is in the shape of "formless-energy/light." Basically, it's energy-light without a designated purpose-God has left it in this state for us to use. All we have to do is construct a mental template and bring it into being on our physical plane. To bring things into being-start by visualizing things the way you want them to be. Accept it as being so and arrange your life as if it were so and it will be so. This process creates a place in your life for the thing you are bringing into reality. Yes, it's that simple and it cannot fail. I say that with complete-confidence because, God used this very same technique, to create life so, if you need validation, there it is! To better condition your mind, to accept your desire, here's a sound technique that softens the rigid mindset and creates a conducive environment (from which to bring things into being.) As you go to sleep, view in your mind the thing you are creating. Make it simple and repeat it as you drift off to sleep. To enhance the above technique, once you have fallen to sleep and you wake (up to go to the bathroom or whatever) make your interruption quick and get back to sleep. As you drift back to sleep, again, visualize your desire-see it over and over until you fall asleep. You will be surprised how much quicker you are able to create your desired life using this method-I was! Like I said, I’m no expert-I’m just conveying the things I know to be true from my own personal experience. I do read the Bible (I have read it cover to cover over a four year period to properly grasp it’s message) and pray daily. When I go about my daily routine, in my mind, I constantly create my desired-life. Over time, I have seen dramatic changes-it works. Just remember that nature has a way of doing things so, don’t go against that particular mode. See what you want as being so and leave the details to nature-it will take care of the little things that make what you desire, happen. Also, do not forget that just because, you now, know the truth and that you have the ways and means of creating a good life, that everything will be good-to-go. If you are not careful, you can easily slide back into your old ways. TPTB are alive and well-they will continue to do everything they can to stay ahead of the game. Don’t be distracted and don’t get depressed. You have everything you need for a good life-how fast you bring about the change depends on how easily you can break your old mindset. Some people can do it, point-blank, while others take longer. Whatever the case, just remember, you’re on the right road, now! Oh, and stop blaming God for all the ills in the world. Remember, God is neutral-His essence is neutral. We determine whether what we create is good or evil, right or wrong. That's how we are measured so, don't get a monkey on your back-sin is a dangerous thing! It colors how you see the world and what you bring into being. Finally, whether or not you are mindful of your contribution to life and the world we live in, you participate by default. That's right-even without being aware of it, you bring into being what you think, and it not only affects you but, the rest of us too. Starbug iStarbug So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure, How amazingly unlikely is your birth, And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere up in space, 'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth. Monty Python - Galaxy Song |
| Unforgiven User ID: 368615 United States04/16/2008 10:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there's no god or gods. Sorry to tell you that! Quoting: Eve_4000BcWow! You're in for a treat when you die. You'll see there is a God. And when you do I hope you weep for being so rude and saying they didn't exist... lol Say you've lived your whole life believing there is no God and... Thread: Say you've lived your whole life believing there is no God and... Then upon your death you come face to face with him... and although he knows that you had lived your life denying him and denouncing those who have faith, he still invites you into his kingdom... Would you accept? Children of tomorrow live in the tears that fall today Will the sunrise of tomorrow bring in peace in any way Must the world live in the shadow of atomic fear Can they win the fight for peace or will they disappear? |
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| Eve_4000Bc User ID: 272605 United States04/16/2008 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question authority every time. Ask them how that makes them feel. Ask them why? Ask them when you have an opinion with your opinion and question them with that! There is no being with ALL THE answers accept for God. Even still question. But trust if it's all good and loving then follow with your full heart believing. For the light will always be the light. It makes me a believer. |
| Unforgiven User ID: 368615 United States04/16/2008 10:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there's no god or gods. Sorry to tell you that! Quoting: Eve_4000BcWow! You're in for a treat when you die. You'll see there is a God. And when you do I hope you weep for being so rude and saying they didn't exist... lol Say you've lived your whole life believing there is no God and... Thread: Say you've lived your whole life believing there is no God and... Then upon your death you come face to face with him... and although he knows that you had lived your life denying him and denouncing those who have faith, he still invites you into his kingdom... Would you accept? um! seriously dude, learn how read and follow the responses from people and follow the post. Some other guy said there wasn't a God. I below his response said there is a God and he's in for a treat! I read that and was agreeing with you against him.... and then adding my own 2ct... sorry that I confused you.. Children of tomorrow live in the tears that fall today Will the sunrise of tomorrow bring in peace in any way Must the world live in the shadow of atomic fear Can they win the fight for peace or will they disappear? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 412873 United States04/16/2008 10:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is he Evil? Quoting: DirtyDawgsDoes he not exist? Or is there a bigger plan? #3... bigger plan is working out. we are in an evolutionary spike and we will finally cut loose for the deep dark of our own selves, and those that do not will die and cannot come back to this planet. We each have a responcibility for our own soul growth and that means getting to your best behaviour. you have four more years... then the earth undergoes a transformation with all earths inhabitants that made it that far, and we become_______________________!!! Creator is no evil. Creator lets us play with ego, free will and sees if we can stick to our divinity. we made up all kinds of ways to try to stick to divinity but some of them need updating..fast. right now we are in an extinction period of evolution. we are seeing the death of many people, many life forms, are ways of being...extinctions abound. Old dies off and the new begins now and grows. looking at the world food shortages right now and it looks aweful. in a map it showed all thrid world countries in trouble. most there make $1 a day at the most.... they live on starches, rice, bread..... and here american is wasteing $100,000 a minute on our wars..... Creator is not the evil one...... |
| Eve_4000Bc User ID: 272605 United States04/16/2008 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I read that and was agreeing with you against him.... Quoting: Unforgivenand then adding my own 2ct... sorry that I confused you.. sorry! I've been moody today. I got to work on not being so touchie, and so froggie to argue. My bad. I do apoligize. Question authority every time. Ask them how that makes them feel. Ask them why? Ask them when you have an opinion with your opinion and question them with that! There is no being with ALL THE answers accept for God. Even still question. But trust if it's all good and loving then follow with your full heart believing. For the light will always be the light. It makes me a believer. |
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| Pit bull User ID: 489287  Italy08/22/2008 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wages of sin is still death. We reap what we sow. We cut God out of our lives, our government, our moral compass; we deluge the churches with "prosperity and health" to the point that the "salt has lost it's savor". Then when we have made a total destruction of our planet, our lively hood, our society, then have the arrogance to blame God for our sin. Quoting: WingedlionMaybe God all he had to do is to lift His hand of restraining us to show us how self destructive we are without Him. Then and only then, when we are in dire straits, will we call on Him to save us, and once again He will put his hand of moral restraint upon our evil souls and bring peace to our destruction. That's one of the best comments around here. God (THE ALMIGHTY THE MOST MERCIFULL) Gave us life, a beautil planet, gave us feelings so that we could love each other and other creatures, gave us intelligence so we could evolve, gave us freedom to live as we want gave us everything we need to live in prosperity and love. Gave us the right to adore HIM the HIGHEST OF THE HIGHEST this right has only been granted to angels and we were given it too! And yet some find the arrogance to blame GOD (THE ALL MIGHTY THE MOST MERICYFULL THE HIGHEST OF THE HIGHEST) If the world is filled with evil today it is because people can't listen to their hearts anymore. So please listen to your hearts instead of cursing.  |
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