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Mystery Babylon is not a Mystery. She is plainly revealed in the Bible. | |
| Base12 Offer Upgrade  User ID: 78222180  United States03/05/2023 01:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation out there regarding who Mystery Babylon is. Because of this, many believe that Mystery Babylon is something that is still hidden, or is something to be guessed at, like a riddle that needs to be solved. One reason is because of the word 'Mystery'. Folks tend to think of a Mystery as something that has not been revealed yet, however the opposite is true when it comes to Bible interpretation. Basically, every time the word 'Mystery' is used in the Bible, that Mystery is revealed. Therefore, there is no need to speculate. Even those that studied their Bibles thousands of years ago knew who Mystery Babylon was. This is because Mystery Babylon has been around since the Garden of Eden. This simple fact eliminates many false teachings that are out there such as the Vatican or the United States being Mystery Babylon. Obviously, these entities did not exist when Adam and Eve were created. Just two verses are all we need to get started… Verse #1: Revelation 18:24 "And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." One of the biggest mistakes people make when attempting to interpret verses such as the one above, is to conclude that words like ‘Her’, and ‘Blood’ are symbolic instead of literal. This gives them a license to invent meanings that are simply not there. Mystery Babylon is a Her, as in a literal Woman and not a Church. The Blood that Mystery Babylon drinks is literal as well. ‘All that were slain’ should be understood as to include those that were slain since the Garden of Eden. Did the Vatican or the United States slay people during the times of Adam and Eve? Of course not. So why entertain such a silly idea? Who was the first person slain? According to the verse above, Mystery Babylon drank that person’s Blood… Verse #2: Genesis 4:11 "And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand" Abel was the first person to be slain. And sure enough, Mystery Babylon was there to receive his Blood. Who is she? Earth... as in Mother Earth. Earth drinks the Blood. You now have the first half of the Mystery solved.  Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85368928 United States03/05/2023 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation out there regarding who Mystery Babylon is. Because of this, many believe that Mystery Babylon is something that is still hidden, or is something to be guessed at, like a riddle that needs to be solved. Quoting: Base12 One reason is because of the word 'Mystery'. Folks tend to think of a Mystery as something that has not been revealed yet, however the opposite is true when it comes to Bible interpretation. Basically, every time the word 'Mystery' is used in the Bible, that Mystery is revealed. Therefore, there is no need to speculate. Even those that studied their Bibles thousands of years ago knew who Mystery Babylon was. This is because Mystery Babylon has been around since the Garden of Eden. This simple fact eliminates many false teachings that are out there such as the Vatican or the United States being Mystery Babylon. Obviously, these entities did not exist when Adam and Eve were created. Just two verses are all we need to get started… Verse #1: Revelation 18:24 "And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth." One of the biggest mistakes people make when attempting to interpret verses such as the one above, is to conclude that words like ‘Her’, and ‘Blood’ are symbolic instead of literal. This gives them a license to invent meanings that are simply not there. Mystery Babylon is a Her, as in a literal Woman and not a Church. The Blood that Mystery Babylon drinks is literal as well. ‘All that were slain’ should be understood as to include those that were slain since the Garden of Eden. Did the Vatican or the United States slay people during the times of Adam and Eve? Of course not. So why entertain such a silly idea? Who was the first person slain? According to the verse above, Mystery Babylon drank that person’s Blood… Verse #2: Genesis 4:11 "And now art thou cursed from the earth, which hath opened her mouth to receive thy brother’s blood from thy hand" Abel was the first person to be slain. And sure enough, Mystery Babylon was there to receive his Blood. Who is she? Earth... as in Mother Earth. Earth drinks the Blood. You now have the first half of the Mystery solved. Just more misinformation! The Bible says Mystery Babylon is a City! A city that sets on 7 mountains,(not hills as some translations suggest). It is the "great city" of the Hebrews. It is the one where "our Lord was Crucified" and where the 2 Witnesses will witness and be killed. It is where many Biblical prophets and the Saints were murdered. Which can only lead to one conclusion...That it is symbolic for Jerusalem. |
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| Base12 (OP) User ID: 78222180 United States03/05/2023 01:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perfect. Thank you for providing the other half of the Mystery... who deny His Son Jesus Christ. Mystery Babylon is referred to as a Great City which specifically is Jerusalem. Quoting: Seek^ And the woman that you saw is the great city that has dominion over the kings of the earth.” Revelation 17:18 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our Lord was crucified. Revelation 11:8 Mystery Babylon is also referred to as a whore and harlot because they've been unfaithful to God. The LORD said to me in the days of King Josiah: “Have you seen what she did, that faithless one, Israel, how she went up on every high hill and under every green tree, and there played the whore? Jeremiah 3:6 “As for your adulteries and your lustful neighings, The outrageous sin of your prostitution On the hills in the field, I have seen your abominations. Woe to you, Jerusalem! How long will you remain unclean?” Jeremiah 13:27 Once Earth drinks the Blood of those slain, the story does not end there. There is a process that must be understood. This process is the biggest Key to understanding. The Blood goes somewhere. Where does it go? Matthew 23:35 "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar." Did you catch that? The Blood of Abel is symbolically placed upon Earthly Jerusalem. Thus, Earth is Mystery Babylon that drinks the Blood of those slain, then the Blood is symbolically placed upon Earthly Jerusalem. But why? And in what way in the Blood placed? What is the deeper meaning here? Remember, there is a PROCESS involved here. Again, the Blood does not stop there. It goes to a very specific place in Jerusalem. Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85383545 United States03/05/2023 01:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it was clear, there would be no debates or arguments about it. It is not clear because God did not make it clear so that we keep looking and keep studying and keep hoping and keep praying because Faith is required, not arrogant Pride. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84599718 Canada03/05/2023 01:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By your own standard, earth is not a literal woman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85383545 But you are so wise in your own eyes... earth is physically part of a macro schematic which forms a star system which makes up a quantum being. This quantum being is Jesus Christ, and he radiates through everything animated. |
| Base12 (OP) User ID: 78222180 United States03/05/2023 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember, there is a PROCESS involved here. Again, the Blood does not stop there. It goes to a very specific place in Jerusalem. Quoting: Base12 Let us look at what Jesus said again... Matthew 23:35 "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar." Those that have done well in their studies will understand the deep meaning of being slain between the Temple and the Brazen Altar. This is the area by which the Goat and Bull were slain on the Day of Atonement in order to obtain their Blood. This Blood would then be sprinkled on the Ark of the Covenant... Leviticus 16:14 "And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times." What Jesus is teaching is that all of the Blood that Mystery Babylon drank, from Abel to Zacharias, was symbolically sprinkled upon the Ark to atone for sin. They were in a sense, sacrificed. This fact is illustrated in this next verse... Hebrews 12:24 "And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel." And there we have it as plain as can be. Abel's Blood was sprinkled in the Most Holy Place to atone for sin. The Blood of Jesus of course speaks better things and is the final Atonement required. Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85383545 United States03/05/2023 01:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By your own standard, earth is not a literal woman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85383545 But you are so wise in your own eyes... earth is physically part of a macro schematic which forms a star system which makes up a quantum being. This quantum being is Jesus Christ, and he radiates through everything animated. Creation is not the Creator. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 84599718 Canada03/05/2023 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By your own standard, earth is not a literal woman. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85383545 But you are so wise in your own eyes... earth is physically part of a macro schematic which forms a star system which makes up a quantum being. This quantum being is Jesus Christ, and he radiates through everything animated. Creation is not the Creator. all animation,(micro medio and macro) is by design. our universe is digital but the stars are analog |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77711985 United States03/05/2023 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remember, there is a PROCESS involved here. Again, the Blood does not stop there. It goes to a very specific place in Jerusalem. Quoting: Base12 Let us look at what Jesus said again... Matthew 23:35 "That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar." Those that have done well in their studies will understand the deep meaning of being slain between the Temple and the Brazen Altar. This is the area by which the Goat and Bull were slain on the Day of Atonement in order to obtain their Blood. This Blood would then be sprinkled on the Ark of the Covenant... Leviticus 16:14 "And he shall take of the blood of the bullock, and sprinkle it with his finger upon the mercy seat eastward; and before the mercy seat shall he sprinkle of the blood with his finger seven times." What Jesus is teaching is that all of the Blood that Mystery Babylon drank, from Abel to Zacharias, was symbolically sprinkled upon the Ark to atone for sin. They were in a sense, sacrificed. This fact is illustrated in this next verse... Hebrews 12:24 "And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel." And there we have it as plain as can be. Abel's Blood was sprinkled in the Most Holy Place to atone for sin. The Blood of Jesus of course speaks better things and is the final Atonement required. I find what you say fascinating and would like to understand more! Do you have a website with study papers available? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80852932 United States03/05/2023 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Bible is made up rubbish in the first place to control the masses of wilfully ignorant people that enjoy living in fear, and shame and are always looking to absolve some defect. The defect is the Bible itself and TPTB that tweaked it over the past 1000 years or so.  |
| Base12 (OP) User ID: 78222180 United States03/05/2023 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find what you say fascinating and would like to understand more! Do you have a website with study papers available? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77711985 Thank you. My latest presentation is here... Much of what I am showing in this thread may be found in the above. My website link is below... Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
| hollyavila User ID: 82519982 United States03/05/2023 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting post and OP makes a good point. I don't agree but I love hearing anything anyone thinks about Scripture, since it's my fave subject. I still think it's Rome, that great city. It burns. We know that Jerusalem is not going to burn, so I think it's Rome. Also, Mystery refers to churches. Ever listen to any Leonard Cohen? "In the house of mystery there was no one at all, there was no one at all." He meant church in that song. He was very well educated in Torah. ok, not scripture, and not part of my point, just sayin. |
| PSA User ID: 85103929 United States03/05/2023 01:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Book of Revelation states clearly it's a city doesn't it? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80720208 United States03/05/2023 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the tower of Babyl was a planetarium and astrological observatory, and it was, why would mystery Babylon be anything other that the "As above so below" cult? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84947470 It's not a cult, it's an occult law. It applies to many concepts, but mainly to Man. "God created Man in His image." Thus, 'as above, so below.' God is Triune in nature. So is man. And what evidence do you have to assert that the Tower of Babel was for astrological observation? You don't have any whatsoever. You don't even know if it existed or if it's an allegorical tool. |
| FHL(C) User ID: 85371206  China03/05/2023 01:50 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I find you have many interesting things to say OP. First though. Are you a born again Spirit filled believer. Meaning did YAHshua(Jesus) died for your sins on the cross as your only Saviour Elohim King. And that He rose from the dead and is returning a second time. TIA Last Edited by FHL(C) on 03/05/2023 01:51 PM YAHshua the sound of His Name in English, YAH is short form of YHVH, bible.Prayerbook.Praisebook downloads [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] [link to www.docdroid.net (secure)] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82400570 United States03/05/2023 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is such a good example of inept hermeneutics and exegetical principles that it got pinned. The Bible exegesis threads that get pinned are 100% false 100% of the time. Without fail. Mystery Babylon pertains to the 2nd and 3rd beasts (yes, there's a third scarlet beast) of Revelation which are directly connected to the Roman Catholic church. Roman Catholicism was started by Constantine the Great who was the first Pontifex Maximus of the Roman Catholic Church. No one but the Roman emperor could hold the title of Pontifex Maximus (the Great Bridge Builder). The Pontifex Maximus was (and is) the high priest of all gods of Rome and still to this day. Church bishops were called Pontifex Maximus until the rise of Constantine's false church - the Roman Universal Cult. Constantine was the beast 666. His H-brew title is Ha-Melek Ha-Constantinus Ha-Augustus, which equals 666 in gematria of the regular H-brew pattern. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the mark of the beast is Catholic ChiRho. Mystery Babylon is the false Roman Catholic Church and always has been since 325 AD when Constantine 666 established it to control and subvert Christianity. |
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