**Farewell Israel: Bush, Iran and The Revolt of Islam**- the film-

[link to farewellisrael.com]

Nice hair...)

is not the issue....the film...cough,cough..

Actually it goes all the back to Abraham,Issac,and Ishmael.The people of Ishamel have always been jealous because the promise went through Issac,Abraham and Sarahs child.

Like a soap opera...all started because the jealousy of two women in love with the same man.
He choosed Sara and expulsed Agar.
That was the start of this never ending conflict between two nations, same father, same roots.
Hatred between brothers that last forever....

Say elo to meh lil friend Sampson Option.

The United States will unequivocally not permit Iran or ANY country to destroy Israel.

A fairy tale taken to heart, as it were.

You have to admit, Islam supersedes Judaism, providing a superior military and political system open to all. Plus, many heads were chopped off, or girls raped by your sissy Jewish prophets? Muhammad was the baddest motherfucker Asia Minor ever saw.

Actually God had promised Abraham and Sarah,his wife,a child even though the were both so old they couldnt beleive it and didnt wait on the prophecy manifest.So Abraham had a child with Hagar and Egyption servant with Sarahs blessings.Back in those days it was like a curse if you didnt have a child.So he got desperate and a had a son Ishmael with Hagar,before the promised son Isaac came between Abraham an Sarah.The older child Ishmeal mocked Isaac out of jealousy an it was apparent they would have to get rid of him an Hagar.But the God told Abrham not to worry because he would bless Ishmael anyway.
*Genesis 16:14 God appeared to Hagar at the well or pool of visions called Beer-la-hai-roi and there Hagar said,now I have seen the God who sees me.
*Genesis 21:9-10-34

good riddance izrahell... you will not be missed.

psh muhammed was a pedo an a false prophet like all muslim perverts an false prophets rofl

9/11 Dancing Israelis

My problem is that our jewish friends (about 100 000) won't disappear from MY country and travel back to Israel...now when they managed to create a nice country.
In the contrary, more and more lovely jewish people come to Hungary with their paramilitary forces (In-Cal) and water cannons and blue police droids and they bit the crap out of us when we demonstrate against them so...why create Israhell if our jewish friends don't want to travel back there?

When I reflect on it I say: Israel is just fine, now please get the hell out of MY country so that we can create our own politics without the pressure from our jewish friends; is it too much to ask? :-)

Yeah...good riddance

The Children of Abraham



• Christians, Jews, and Muslims are all children of Abraham
• Muslims call themselves children of Abraham through Ishmael, just as Christians and Jews call themselves children of Abraham through Isaac.
• 14% of Muslims are of Arab descent -- thus the majority of Muslims are spiritual heirs of Abraham through Ishmael -- just as Christians are spiritual (rather than biological) heirs of Abraham through Isaac.


Relevance of These Texts to How We Should Relate to Muslims and Others Outside the Community of Faith
• The chosen family of God is called to be a blessing to all the families of the earth
• So how should we relate to the “outsiders” -- those outside our community of faith -- who are in our midst? How can we be a blessing to them? How should we evangelize “outsiders”?
 In particular: there is an increasing Muslim population in the U.S.A. How should be relate to them?
• These text from Genesis can help us


Why are the Stories of Hagar and Ishmael neglected?
• These texts are often neglected, skipped over in Sunday School and bible studies. Why? Could it be because:
 Hagar and Ishmael are outsiders?
 Hagar is a woman?
 Hagar is a slave?
 Hagar is black?
 Muslims trace their ancestry to Hagar and Ishmael?


Sarah
• Sarah is not included in the call of Abraham in Chapter 12.
 When God promised Abraham a son, God does not say Sarah will be the mother. Sarah was not part of the promise.
• Sarah interprets the fact she has not been able to have Abraham’s child as meaning God does not want her to carry Abraham’s child.
 So in Chapter 16, Sarah takes a self-sacrificing initiative and offers Abraham her slave girl Hagar to have a son
 an accepted practice of the culture
 She not only shares Abraham sexually, but allows Hagar to become Abraham’s wife.
• Only in Chapter 17:15 does God tells Sarah she will be mother of the son of promise. Ishmael is already a teenager by this time!
 When God does tell Sarah she will become the mother of the son of promise, Abraham and Sarah are so elderly that they both laugh at the idea.
• There are conflicts between Sarah and Hagar because of Ishmael that leads twice to Hagar’s banishment:
 Chapter 16
 Chapter 21


Hagar
• a slave
• black
• an outsider
• Egyptian
• at Sarah’s beck and call
• She is not asked whether she would be willing to be Sarah’s surrogate to carry Abraham’s child -- Sarah just orders her to do it


The First Banishment of Hagar (Chapter 16)
• Hagar is pregnant with Abraham’s son and looks with contempt on Sarah. This creates conflict. Abraham tells Sarah to do what she wants about the situation, and Sarah banishes Hagar.
• Hagar journeys towards her home in Egypt, alone, pregnant.
• The language here is that Abraham and Sarah “oppress” her; Sarah deals “harshly” with her
 This language parallels the description in Exodus of how the Egyptians treat the Hebrews
• An “Angel of the Lord” -- God in human form -- appears to Hagar, calling her by her name (Abraham and Sarah never call Hagar by her name).
• God speaks promises to Hagar:
 Genesis 16:10: “I will so greatly multiply your offspring that they cannot be counted for multitude.”
 Gods tells Hagar she will have a son Ishmael = “God hears”
 Note God is making promises here to an “outsider.” to a person banished from the promised family, the community of faith
• Hagar gives God a new name, based upon her own experience of God: El-roi (“The God who sees me”).
 She, the outsider, is only person in the Bible who gives a new name to God

Muslims and God’s Promises to Hagar and Ishmael



• God is not exclusively committed to Abraham and Sarah. God makes promises to Hagar and Ishmael, who are outside the community of faith.
 God states the promises to Hagar and Ishmael fives times in Chapters 16, 17 and 21.
• Can it be that the growth of the Muslim community is due to the fact that God is keeping the promises made to Hagar and Ishmael?

From that point on, the descendents of Ishmael, who now include many of the people in the Middle East and predominately Muslim, have tried to reclaim the right given to Isaac. The link between Ishmael and the other descendents of Abraham are these.

· The Edomites are descendents of Esau, brother of Jacob, son of Isaac.

· The Ammonites and Moabites are descendents of Lot and his two daughters, nephew to Abraham. They settled in what is now known as Jordan.

· The Midianites, Sheba and Dedan are descendents of Abraham through Keturah, his wife after Sarah’s death (Gen. 25:1-4). These settled in the Sinai and Southern Arabia in the area of Yemen, the kingdom of Sheba (Queen of Sheba).



God clearly promised to make Ishmael and his descendents a great nation, but God also reserved the covenant with Isaac and later Jacob (Gen. 32:24-32). The descendents of Ishmael later intermarried with other descendents of Abraham, bonding the nations (Gen. 28;9, 37:27), of Abraham outside of Isaac and Jacob.
So today, many people throughout the Arab and Muslim world claim descent from Abraham through Ishmael.



[link to www.truthnet.org]

My brain hurts trying to make sense of this. What a tricky god you Jews have!

:helpme123:

This DVD is a historic journey, from the birth of Islam, through it's 1200 year reign over the civilized world, to the last 300 years of Islamic decline, overtaken and dominated by the West, then humiliated by a Jewish state.

Israel is an obstacle for the Arab World..


:newmap1:

What a load of bullsh*t.

Americans need to back away from supporting Israel. They are vampires and only have the demise of the United States of America on their minds. Their agenda includes destroying America, white people and Christianity. The most vile and hateful people ever to exist are the ones called Jews. If Muslims can eradicate this scum from the earth then God bless the Muslims.

Fuck Israel. No more death, destruction and war for Israel.

:j1mmy: time for your medicine

Such a weirdo you are...calling for death and destruccion to others will come to you as a punch in your own face.....
Be careful what you whish for....

:potential1:

What I whish for?

Listen jewess, your kind are the ones trying to undermine and destroy everything. It is the jews that are bent on destruction. Are you threatening me? Are suggesting that jews will destroy America?

Be careful what you wish for.

God bless Israel and the Jews.God save the Jews who dont know Yeshua as messiah.Those who bless Israel will be blesses,those who curse Israel will be cursed.Those who divide Israel are cursed.

[link to www.rense.com]

Cheerleading Genocide
By Khaled Amayreh
4-18-8


Israel is gearing up to celebrate the 60th anniversary of its birth; six decades of destruction for the Palestinians

With spectacular fanfare and a plethora of highlighted events, Israel is planning to celebrate its 60th birthday on 18 May 2008.

According to an Israeli government website called Israelfestival.com, the festival will include "non-stop entertainment, [a] fashion show, a variety of ethnic food for sale, Israeli folk dancing, arts and crafts, Israeli and Jewish cultural and heritage pavilions and art exhibits".

The centrepiece ceremony is expected to take place in West Jerusalem and be attended by Israel's political and military leaders as well as foreign dignitaries. Among those expected are US President George W Bush, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Israeli media and non-governmental organisations have already begun celebrations in earnest. For example, Israeli television has begun airing a new series called Shishim (meaning "60"), which looks back at the six decades since Israel was created in May 1948. The series, which began 31 March, is divided into six episodes, each devoted to one of the decades following the founding of the state.

Israel hopes that the high-pitched celebrations will serve as an opportunity to promote Israel and enhance its questionable standing abroad. "It is an opportunity to celebrate our achievements, our successes, our national being," boasted Israeli Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, who was not yet born in 1948.

From the Zionist viewpoint, Israel is a story of success. Today, Israel is a political and military force to be reckoned with, even if its power is based on the patronage of foreign entities. A country of no more than seven million people, including nearly 1.5 million non-Jews (mainly Palestinians), Israel more or less directs the politics and policies of world's only superpower, the United States, thanks mainly to powerful Jewish lobbies in Washington.

The power of the Jewish lobby largely explains how massive American financial and military support is to Israel, which is measured in hundreds of billions of dollars. Were it not for this nearly unlimited financial, economic, technological, political and military backing, Israel would never have been able to survive, especially given its predator tactics.

Israel, which has been mounting a vitriolic incitement campaign against Iran for its acquisition of nuclear technology, is a nuclear power on par with other established nuclear powers, and its military supremacy -- at least until summer of 2006 -- has covered the vast bulk of the Middle East from Turkey to Iran and from North Africa to east and central Africa.

Economically, Israel is also a regional economic superpower, with a GNP bordering on $0.5 trillion. In fact, Israel is among a few pioneering states in the field of electronics and the development of new generations of medicine, with Israeli pharmaceutical firms' share of the world market reaching billions of dollars.

Notwithstanding all its success and achievements, Israel remains a state based on racism, apartheid and criminality against the Palestinian people whose homeland it seized and whom it is trying to obliterate to this day. To be sure, Israel has failed. Palestinians remain, both as a human entity and as a national entity.

Israel, in order to achieve its goals, always sought to acquire, by hook or by crook, as much Palestinian land as possible while taking in as few Palestinian people as possible. The policies and tactics employed by Israel to achieve this goal are both blunt and insidious and amount to ethnic cleansing and the international crime of genocide. Israel has institutionalised racism, bulldozed hundreds of Palestinian towns and villages, shamelessly confiscated Palestinian land and property, including private homes, and recently built the so-called "Separation Wall" in the West Bank, aimed first and foremost at annexing to Israel as much Palestinian land as possible.

On top of all of this, Israel has perfected the practice of state-sponsored mass terror; a deliberate policy aimed at making Palestinian life as unbearable as possible with the ultimate goal of forcing Palestinians to leave their homes and land altogether. This is done in broad daylight; in full view of key world powers, such as the US, EU, Russia and China, which either keep silent or issue a few terse and innocuous words about the need to stick to a peace process that has form but very little substance.

Today, as Israel is getting ready to celebrate its 60th birthday, the massive theft of Palestinian land in the West Bank, especially in East Jerusalem and its surroundings, continues unabated. Against all odds, the Palestinian people have survived. Indeed, Palestinian resilience to Israeli oppression is legendary -- a trait that continues to baffle and frustrate Israeli strategists. Perhaps it is this resilience that is encouraging influential Israeli political, military and religious leaders to openly call for genocide of the Palestinians.

Recently, Israel's Deputy Defence Minister Matan Vilnai threatened to "inflict a greater holocaust" on Palestinians. Similarly, a growing number of rabbis associated with the two largest religious camps in Israel, the Haredi ultra-Orthodox religious sector and the national Zionist religious sector, issuing one edict after the other, permitting soldiers to murder at will Palestinian civilians, including children, on the grounds that in war all among the enemy population ought to be treated as combatants, including children.

One might imagine that this is exaggerated, but it is not. Recently Rabbi Yisrael Rosen, director of the Tsomet Institute, a religious seminary attended by Israeli settlers in the West Bank, declared: "All of the Palestinians must be killed; men, women, infants, and even their beasts." And the chief rabbi of the City of Safad, Shmuel Eliyahu, urged the state and the army recently to hang the children of a Palestinian fighter who last month attacked the Merkaz Haarav Centre, run for Jewish settlers in West Jerusalem, killing eight pre-military Talmudic students in retaliation for the killing by the Israeli army of more than 130 Palestinians, most of them innocent civilians, in the Gaza Strip.

The mushrooming of fascist impulses is not confined to the religious sector. In March, the Israeli media quoted Knesset members and former cabinet ministers as threatening to extend discriminatory laws against non-Jews in ways reminiscent of Nuremberg Laws passed in Nazi Germany. One Israeli Knesset member reportedly told his Arab colleague: "the day will come when we will kick you out of this house."

Such instances raise no eyebrows in a country where some rabbis, like David Batsri, openly teach that non-Jews are animals and donkeys. A recent opinion survey published this week showed that as many as 75 per cent of Israeli Jews support ethnic cleansing of Arabs from mandate Palestine -- Israel proper and the occupied Palestinian territories of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip. Understandably, the poll drew angry reactions from the Israeli Arab community. Jamal Zahalqa, an Israeli Arab Knesset member, suggested that Arabs are being treated in ways similar to the way Jews were treated in the Third Reich ahead of World War II.

"The hateful smell of racism and fascism is wafting everywhere in this country. You must know that we didn't come to Israel from abroad... On the contrary; it was Israel that invaded us. We are the indigenous people of the land, and we receive our legitimacy from our belonging to this land, not from having Israeli citizenship," he said.

Zahalqa described the poll as "additional evidence underscoring the growing rampancy of racism and fascism in Israel as a result of the ongoing waves of hate against everything and anything Arab."

The fears of Zahalqa and other Israeli Arabs are real. Recently, hundreds of Arab residents from Jaffa, Lod and Ramleh took to the streets to protest against the planned eviction by the state of thousands of Arab residents from Jaffa. Authorities had issued warrants for the evacuation and destruction of hundreds of homes, claiming infringements on building regulations. The state also claimed that, "the families [had] lost the right to continue living in their homes, since these homes belonged to their parents ... "

"We are here and we won't leave. We will either live on this land or die on this land. We will not let you touch our lands or our holy places," said Sheikh Raed Salah, leader of the Arab movement in Israel. "All your rulings belong in the trashcan. We are not afraid of you. We will continue to live in our homeland," he added.

Last year, Richard Falk, a renowned American Jewish professor of international law and practice, wrote an article entitled "Slouching toward a Palestinian holocaust," in which he warned that Israel was moving towards the perpetration of a holocaust against the Palestinians. "Is it an irresponsible overstatement to associate the treatment of Palestinians with this criminalised Nazi record of collective atrocity? I think not," said Falk.

Justifying the Israel-equals-Nazi analogy, Falk argued that developments in Gaza (the blockade against its estimated 1.5 million inhabitants), were especially disturbing because they expressed vividly a deliberate intention on the part of Israel and its backers to subject an entire human community to life- endangering conditions of maximal cruelty. "The suggestion that this pattern of conduct is a holocaust-in-the-making represents a rather desperate appeal to the governments of the world and to international public opinion to act urgently to prevent these current genocidal tendencies from culminating into a collective tragedy," Falk wrote.

In sum, from the standpoint of fascism, Israel has much to celebrate in terms of political and military achievements. But in terms of justice, morality and humanity, one struggles to name a country on earth that so openly practices oppression and racism. As such Israel, on its 60th birthday, remains what it was when born six decades ago: a state built on blood, murder, theft and lies.

Is Israel about to change its ways? Don't hold your breath, Israeli leaders might say. Unless, that is, you're Palestinian.