ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82554834 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 82603257 03/09/2023 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z ![]() For every action there's a reaction. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84232063 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z No it wasn’t. The USA and a dozen other countries were supporting Ukraine from the first day of Russia’s invasion and made their intentions known that they would continue to do so. But this bit is priceless “the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to” Really? Every kind of military equipment? You know, things like jet aircraft and helicopters, naval vessels including submarines, long range ground to ground missile systems. Everything. ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84232063 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. And this sock is saying we sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine as well. You comrades need to screw the top back on that bottle of vodka. |
St Tidbits the Odd User ID: 77547432 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be They havent been fighting yet? QUOTE I'm walking around the city wearing my beautiful body armor, with my forehead on my balls, in honor of the holiday I wore on March 8, and I get a message that the New York Times wrote that General Cherevaty said that Bakhmut is the last frontier of the Wagner PMC. I want to answer, since you paid attention to me. This is our internal squabble, stay out of it. Option 1: this is indeed the last step of the Wagner PMC. Heroes don't last forever. 300 Spartans. "Three Heroes". remain in the memory of the people. but we'll take Bahumut anyway. What will happen after we take Bakhumut: We'll have an operational space. and the world has not yet encountered Russian units, which have not yet entered the battle, perfectly prepared, with the latest weaponry, which the world has not yet heard about, they are waiting for their time, which will come after the opening of the operational space for them. Then the whole world will shudder. Option 2: You are for democracy, and we are for justice. There are 140 million people in Russia who want justice, and if at least half of them come here - you will get 70 million PMC Wagner army. I turn to Zelensky and his friends. Thank you for your decision to continue in Bakhmut, we are pleased, we are already used to each other. The only request is to take the children and the elderly. but BE HONEST. An army of specialists - welcome, we will work with you. 67,580 fighters from Zaporozhye and 21,000 and change from the Kransovo estuary - welcome here. And then you will develop your success wherever you want, you have everything ahead of you. goodbye, my good people. END QUOTE [link to www.ntv.ru (secure)] Soulless fake humans are already AI. They get triggered by particular words, symbols etc. They can't really bother about the meaning. They just look for the trigger words. Their language & comprehension skills are 0. Some bots have bods, others don't. Cara Is Spirit |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be European ammo depos have been completely emptied by war in Ukraine. That fact alone is imo shocking and a clear proof Europe is in war with Russia. Ukraine for months is not fighting with its own resources and capabilities but with european and american. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. And this sock is saying we sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine as well. You comrades need to screw the top back on that bottle of vodka. Just a fact that death casualties of polish mercenaries is being counted around 5000 means at least twice or three Times that number is fighting there. Then there are brits, romanians, americans, balts and so on, yes 10k plus of foreign mercenaries at least. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40223333 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. USA and UK are required to help Ukraine because they signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 before Ukraine gave up there nukular weapons. Russia signed it too but they are still doing military threats and attacks against Ukraine even though Russia agreed they would not do that. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84232063 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. And this sock is saying we sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine as well. You comrades need to screw the top back on that bottle of vodka. Just a fact that death casualties of polish mercenaries is being counted around 5000 means at least twice or three Times that number is fighting there. Then there are brits, romanians, americans, balts and so on, yes 10k plus of foreign mercenaries at least. Where the fuck do you guys come up with these incredible numbers? Let me guess…Comical Igor? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. USA and UK are required to help Ukraine because they signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 before Ukraine gave up there nukular weapons. Russia signed it too but they are still doing military threats and attacks against Ukraine even though Russia agreed they would not do that. ![]() ![]() ![]() You forgot to mention what NATO promised and signed in that memorandum. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76978862 Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. And this sock is saying we sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine as well. You comrades need to screw the top back on that bottle of vodka. Just a fact that death casualties of polish mercenaries is being counted around 5000 means at least twice or three Times that number is fighting there. Then there are brits, romanians, americans, balts and so on, yes 10k plus of foreign mercenaries at least. Where the fuck do you guys come up with these incredible numbers? Let me guess…Comical Igor? Last time I read about foreign mercs casualties in UA was couple months ago. American come on forth place with about 400 dead. |
Recollector User ID: 85353730 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be At the moment he said that, he was 100% saying the TRUTH. However, conditions CHANGED. If there is 2 inch of snow in a random U.S. city, the Mayor will say that everything will be fine, no need to ask for help from outside. Then, 2 days later, there is a massive snowstorm, power lines are down, and the snow is 20 inch. The mayor calls up everyone and their dog, asking help from everyone, including National Guard and Federal Government. Was he a LIAR when he said 2 days earlier, when the snow was 2 inch, that everything will be fine with just local means? No, he wasn't. Conditions CHANGED. Last Edited by Recollector on 03/09/2023 03:27 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84232063 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84232063 And this sock is saying we sent tens of thousands of troops into Ukraine as well. You comrades need to screw the top back on that bottle of vodka. Just a fact that death casualties of polish mercenaries is being counted around 5000 means at least twice or three Times that number is fighting there. Then there are brits, romanians, americans, balts and so on, yes 10k plus of foreign mercenaries at least. Where the fuck do you guys come up with these incredible numbers? Let me guess…Comical Igor? Last time I read about foreign mercs casualties in UA was couple months ago. American come on forth place with about 400 dead. Sure you did. And you read that where, comrade? Can you translate it from Russian to English for us? ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84232063 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76978862 Just a fact that death casualties of polish mercenaries is being counted around 5000 means at least twice or three Times that number is fighting there. Then there are brits, romanians, americans, balts and so on, yes 10k plus of foreign mercenaries at least. Where the fuck do you guys come up with these incredible numbers? Let me guess…Comical Igor? Last time I read about foreign mercs casualties in UA was couple months ago. American come on forth place with about 400 dead. Sure you did. And you read that where, comrade? Can you translate it from Russian to English for us? ![]() Actually, never mind. Your English is semi-Intellgible at best. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84232063 Where the fuck do you guys come up with these incredible numbers? Let me guess…Comical Igor? Last time I read about foreign mercs casualties in UA was couple months ago. American come on forth place with about 400 dead. Sure you did. And you read that where, comrade? Can you translate it from Russian to English for us? ![]() Actually, never mind. Your English is semi-Intellgible at best. Thats intentional. I just dont give a fuck and couldnt care less to check the spelling..still the numbers are realistic. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80665439 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z 100% precisely correct. Cheers AC. OP is a mark levin sean Hammtitties listener. Also a FauxNews watcher. Hey OPEE. Kiss My Ass. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84232063 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be At the moment he said that, he was 100% saying the TRUTH. Quoting: Recollector However, conditions CHANGED. If there is 2 inch of snow in a random U.S. city, the Mayor will say that everything will be fine, no need to ask for help from outside. Then, 2 days later, there is a massive snowstorm, power lines are down, and the snow is 20 inch. The mayor calls up everyone and their dog, asking help from everyone, including National Guard and Federal Government. Was he a LIAR when he said 2 days earlier, when the snow was 2 inch, that everything will be fine with just local means? No, he wasn't. Conditions CHANGED. Was Putin a liar when he said he had no plans to invade Ukraine three days before Russia invaded Ukraine? Thread: Russian ambassador to the US on Feb. 22: Russia is not invading Ukraine and has no such plans. Three days later, Russia invaded Ukraine But yes, conditions changed. After getting routed in their attempt to take Kyiv and then loss after loss after that, they suffered tens of thousands of casualties so Putin had to get more cannon fodder from somewhere. Point made. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80665439 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z 100% precisely correct. Cheers AC. OP is a mark levin sean Hammtitties listener. Also a FauxNews watcher. Hey OPEE. Kiss My Ass. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40223333 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be That was before the US and Uk decided to send every bit of military equipment every country controlled by the cabal had to kiev and force every man over 14 to die in some trench for “western liberal values”. The sickos in charge of the US and UK won’t stop until every Ukrainian is dead. War was over in April but continued because the US and UK required more blood. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82554834 Great post keep it up your masters will reward you greatly for your service. Z Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. USA and UK are required to help Ukraine because they signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 before Ukraine gave up there nukular weapons. Russia signed it too but they are still doing military threats and attacks against Ukraine even though Russia agreed they would not do that. ![]() ![]() ![]() You forgot to mention what NATO promised and signed in that memorandum. NATO didn't promise or sign anything in the Budapest Memorandum. It was signed by Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, USA, and UK. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be At the moment he said that, he was 100% saying the TRUTH. Quoting: Recollector However, conditions CHANGED. If there is 2 inch of snow in a random U.S. city, the Mayor will say that everything will be fine, no need to ask for help from outside. Then, 2 days later, there is a massive snowstorm, power lines are down, and the snow is 20 inch. The mayor calls up everyone and their dog, asking help from everyone, including National Guard and Federal Government. Was he a LIAR when he said 2 days earlier, when the snow was 2 inch, that everything will be fine with just local means? No, he wasn't. Conditions CHANGED. Was Putin a liar when he said he had no plans to invade Ukraine three days before Russia invaded Ukraine? Thread: Russian ambassador to the US on Feb. 22: Russia is not invading Ukraine and has no such plans. Three days later, Russia invaded Ukraine But yes, conditions changed. After getting routed in their attempt to take Kyiv and then loss after loss after that, they suffered tens of thousands of casualties so Putin had to get more cannon fodder from somewhere. Point made. Last time Mossad gave estimates about casualties through turkish newspaper, about month ago, number of Russian casualties were at 18k. Ukrainian 180k. Those numbers seemed most realistic out of all. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76978862 Correct. There would be no need for rezervist and conscripts if West would not be actively and directly involved in the war. War would already end with a clear Russian victory months ago. Western unconditional support with money AND sodiers as well, tens of thousands western mercs involved, changes things. Russia is fighting whole NATO Allianz in Ukraine. USA and UK are required to help Ukraine because they signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 before Ukraine gave up there nukular weapons. Russia signed it too but they are still doing military threats and attacks against Ukraine even though Russia agreed they would not do that. ![]() ![]() ![]() You forgot to mention what NATO promised and signed in that memorandum. NATO didn't promise or sign anything in the Budapest Memorandum. It was signed by Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, USA, and UK. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] NATO promised there will be no expansion east. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84973912 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be Where do you get your numbers OP? CNN? CIA? lol - They've been wrong far more than the Russians. Only the West ever said this would be a three day war. Not Putin. Conditions definitely changed with the West's level of involvement. For example, the USA blew up the Nordstream pipelines to hurt Germany, their own ally, in the hopes they would destroy Russia's economy. How crazy are these people you defend so eagerly? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40223333 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40223333 USA and UK are required to help Ukraine because they signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 before Ukraine gave up there nukular weapons. Russia signed it too but they are still doing military threats and attacks against Ukraine even though Russia agreed they would not do that. ![]() ![]() ![]() You forgot to mention what NATO promised and signed in that memorandum. NATO didn't promise or sign anything in the Budapest Memorandum. It was signed by Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, USA, and UK. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] NATO promised there will be no expansion east. no they didn't, the Budapest Memorandum was about Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine giving up their nukular weapons. the three major countries that signed it was USA, UK, and Russia who all agreed not to attack or threaten the three other countries. was nothing to do with NATO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77999256 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40223333 USA and UK are required to help Ukraine because they signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994 before Ukraine gave up there nukular weapons. Russia signed it too but they are still doing military threats and attacks against Ukraine even though Russia agreed they would not do that. ![]() ![]() ![]() You forgot to mention what NATO promised and signed in that memorandum. NATO didn't promise or sign anything in the Budapest Memorandum. It was signed by Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, USA, and UK. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] NATO promised there will be no expansion east. False. What you are saying there has been used as a Russian disinfo propaganda taking point which appears to be what you are doing here. Such a promise was never made. NATO’s door has been open to new members since it was founded in 1949 – and that has never changed. This “Open Door Policy” is stated in Article 10 of NATO’s founding treaty, which says “any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic” can apply for membership. Decisions on membership are taken by consensus among all Allies. [link to www.nato.int (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 03:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76978862 You forgot to mention what NATO promised and signed in that memorandum. NATO didn't promise or sign anything in the Budapest Memorandum. It was signed by Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, USA, and UK. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] NATO promised there will be no expansion east. no they didn't, the Budapest Memorandum was about Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine giving up their nukular weapons. the three major countries that signed it was USA, UK, and Russia who all agreed not to attack or threaten the three other countries. was nothing to do with NATO Yes they did, clearly it was promised! But if you want to be specific, in Budapest Memorandum on western run Wikipedia says: The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center with US Ambassador Donald M. Blinken amongst others in attendance,[2] prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." So, ukrainie was threaten by USA in 2014 when americans organized a coup in Maidan and breached ukrainian soverignity. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77999256 ![]() 03/09/2023 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76978862 You forgot to mention what NATO promised and signed in that memorandum. NATO didn't promise or sign anything in the Budapest Memorandum. It was signed by Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, USA, and UK. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] NATO promised there will be no expansion east. False. What you are saying there has been used as a Russian disinfo propaganda taking point which appears to be what you are doing here. Such a promise was never made. NATO’s door has been open to new members since it was founded in 1949 – and that has never changed. This “Open Door Policy” is stated in Article 10 of NATO’s founding treaty, which says “any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic” can apply for membership. Decisions on membership are taken by consensus among all Allies. [link to www.nato.int (secure)] ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40223333 NATO didn't promise or sign anything in the Budapest Memorandum. It was signed by Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, USA, and UK. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] NATO promised there will be no expansion east. no they didn't, the Budapest Memorandum was about Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine giving up their nukular weapons. the three major countries that signed it was USA, UK, and Russia who all agreed not to attack or threaten the three other countries. was nothing to do with NATO Yes they did, clearly it was promised! But if you want to be specific, in Budapest Memorandum on western run Wikipedia says: The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center with US Ambassador Donald M. Blinken amongst others in attendance,[2] prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." So, ukrainie was threaten by USA in 2014 when americans organized a coup in Maidan and breached ukrainian soverignity. See above and cut your lame assed Russian disinfo propagandizing, Ivan. Nobody believes your lies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76978862 ![]() 03/09/2023 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: ONE YEAR AGO TODAY: Putin said conscripts and reservists aren’t taking part in Russia’s military operation in Ukraine and won’t be ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40223333 NATO didn't promise or sign anything in the Budapest Memorandum. It was signed by Belarus, Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, USA, and UK. [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] NATO promised there will be no expansion east. False. What you are saying there has been used as a Russian disinfo propaganda taking point which appears to be what you are doing here. Such a promise was never made. NATO’s door has been open to new members since it was founded in 1949 – and that has never changed. This “Open Door Policy” is stated in Article 10 of NATO’s founding treaty, which says “any other European State in a position to further the principles of this Treaty and to contribute to the security of the North Atlantic” can apply for membership. Decisions on membership are taken by consensus among all Allies. [link to www.nato.int (secure)] no they didn't, the Budapest Memorandum was about Belarus, Kazakhstan, and Ukraine giving up their nukular weapons. the three major countries that signed it was USA, UK, and Russia who all agreed not to attack or threaten the three other countries. was nothing to do with NATO Yes they did, clearly it was promised! But if you want to be specific, in Budapest Memorandum on western run Wikipedia says: The memoranda, signed in Patria Hall at the Budapest Convention Center with US Ambassador Donald M. Blinken amongst others in attendance,[2] prohibited the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States from threatening or using military force or economic coercion against Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan, "except in self-defence or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations." So, ukrainie was threaten by USA in 2014 when americans organized a coup in Maidan and breached ukrainian soverignity. See above and cut your lame assed Russian disinfo propagandizing, Ivan. Nobody believes your lies. Cant you see what Budapest Memorandum says?! Ukraines security cant be breached by russia, UK AND usa. It says so on paper, clearly black and white. What happened in 2014? Ha! Wheres your counter now? You have one? The world has already realised that internationaly based rules only count when they favor USA. When they don't anericans ignore them. So, international rules became irrelevant and you really should not mention signed papers from the past anymore. |