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Real Estate Price Forecast

 
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Real Estate Price Forecast
A client of mine asked me to run a real estate forecast for the next 3- 5 years. Picutre is not pretty. My area is overvalued by 29-30% currently, however throw in the run up of mortgage rates doubling since 2022 and we are looking at a horrible situation. So if Interest rates were still 3-3.5% I could comfortably say that a 25-35% reduction in home prices in my area would be expected. However due to mortgage rates, I can not justify anything less than a 47% or more drop from current prices. If you are selling, think about holding on or expect a severe drop from here. If you must sell, be realistic and get competitive right from the start- this means dropping your price 10-20% from your closest comps...
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A client of mine asked me to run a real estate forecast for the next 3- 5 years. Picutre is not pretty. My area is overvalued by 29-30% currently, however throw in the run up of mortgage rates doubling since 2022 and we are looking at a horrible situation. So if Interest rates were still 3-3.5% I could comfortably say that a 25-35% reduction in home prices in my area would be expected. However due to mortgage rates, I can not justify anything less than a 47% or more drop from current prices. If you are selling, think about holding on or expect a severe drop from here. If you must sell, be realistic and get competitive right from the start- this means dropping your price 10-20% from your closest comps...
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RE Agents will get on here and say that I am crazy, because they need to cheerlead for the market, don't listen. The market is tanking in most places.
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03/30/2023 09:15 AM
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Price forecasts are meaningless

No one knows and that’s the truth
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03/30/2023 09:16 AM
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They are overvalued by 60% now so it will still be no bargain if it corrects.
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Price forecasts are meaningless

No one knows and that’s the truth
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Not true at all

Shit was expected and a whole lot worse

Same rules apply

Buy low sell high
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
They are overvalued by 60% now so it will still be no bargain if it corrects.
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Nice number you pulled out of your ass. Got any more numbers hiding in your ass?
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
Price forecasts are meaningless

No one knows and that’s the truth
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"buy now, or you will miss out"
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
Price forecasts are meaningless

No one knows and that’s the truth
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84188076


Not true at all

Shit was expected and a whole lot worse

Same rules apply

Buy low sell high
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They are absolutely positively 100% meaningless
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03/30/2023 09:18 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
Price forecasts are meaningless

No one knows and that’s the truth
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"buy now, or you will miss out"
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Is this the dip??
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03/30/2023 09:18 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
right now the job market is holding it up.

anyone can get a job


if AI truly takes over the prices will tank 95% lol.
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03/30/2023 09:19 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
They are overvalued by 60% now so it will still be no bargain if it corrects.
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Nice number you pulled out of your ass. Got any more numbers hiding in your ass?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84188076


There will be FOMO on both sides. For years we have been on the FOMO buyers side, meaning prices have been driven up by Fear of Missing OUT. It is beginning to swing the other way and at some point there will be FOMO on the sellers side and the will drive lower prices as no one wants to buy a falling knife
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03/30/2023 09:20 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
Price forecasts are meaningless

No one knows and that’s the truth
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"buy now, or you will miss out"
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Is this the dip??
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LOL. not even close.
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
right now the job market is holding it up.

anyone can get a job


if AI truly takes over the prices will tank 95% lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81566217


There’s still a supply shortage.

People got great rates don’t want to sell. That limits supply that was already limited before.

Interest rates are still historically low.
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
They are overvalued by 60% now so it will still be no bargain if it corrects.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84718056


Nice number you pulled out of your ass. Got any more numbers hiding in your ass?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84188076


There will be FOMO on both sides. For years we have been on the FOMO buyers side, meaning prices have been driven up by Fear of Missing OUT. It is beginning to swing the other way and at some point there will be FOMO on the sellers side and the will drive lower prices as no one wants to buy a falling knife
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No prices have been driven up by insanely cheap money
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
right now the job market is holding it up.

anyone can get a job


if AI truly takes over the prices will tank 95% lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81566217


There’s still a supply shortage.

People got great rates don’t want to sell. That limits supply that was already limited before.

Interest rates are still historically low.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84188076


Wow. Can you please sell me a house quickly based upon those logics...
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03/30/2023 09:21 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
My house has dropped 60k from peak

Still got plenty of room

Things are as they are

More to come
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03/30/2023 09:22 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
right now the job market is holding it up.

anyone can get a job


if AI truly takes over the prices will tank 95% lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81566217


There’s still a supply shortage.

People got great rates don’t want to sell. That limits supply that was already limited before.

Interest rates are still historically low.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84188076


Wow. Can you please sell me a house quickly based upon those logics...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85210841


Houses in my area are still generally under 90 DOM

Dude you’re clueless
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03/30/2023 09:22 AM

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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
prices are holding on, dropping some, here. Asking prices.

prices lag behind other indicators.

DOM days on market is rising. Number of houses dropping their original asking prices is also increasing.
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
right now the job market is holding it up.

anyone can get a job


if AI truly takes over the prices will tank 95% lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81566217


There’s still a supply shortage.

People got great rates don’t want to sell. That limits supply that was already limited before.

Interest rates are still historically low.
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sherlock

until they lose their jobs and can't pay the low rate that they have. in 07 people actually lost jobs and that isn't happening here for some reason. Thus, no correction yet.

Long story short, this will get ugly within a year if people start losing jobs in mass numbers. but not until then
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03/30/2023 09:23 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
right now the job market is holding it up.

anyone can get a job


if AI truly takes over the prices will tank 95% lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81566217


There’s still a supply shortage.

People got great rates don’t want to sell. That limits supply that was already limited before.

Interest rates are still historically low.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84188076


sherlock

until they lose their jobs and can't pay the low rate that they have. in 07 people actually lost jobs and that isn't happening here for some reason. Thus, no correction yet.

Long story short, this will get ugly within a year if people start losing jobs in mass numbers. but not until then
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81566217


Just say you wish it will happen because that’s the truth.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
right now the job market is holding it up.

anyone can get a job


if AI truly takes over the prices will tank 95% lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81566217


There’s still a supply shortage.

People got great rates don’t want to sell. That limits supply that was already limited before.

Interest rates are still historically low.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84188076


People move all the time, especially in todays society. We are already seeing a surge in inventory with limited buyers.

Interest rates are historically low... LOL. My first house I was at a 18% mortgage rate- so in tardland you are right. But I only had to pay $37k for the house, that is now worth $425k. LOL
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03/30/2023 09:24 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
Historically RE is overpriced by 25%. But you forgot the real inflation rate of 25%. Wall St put their money into RE to hedge against inflation.

Prices are NOT coming down. Home sales will collapse but prices will not. This is a direct cause of 25% inflation.
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
prices are holding on, dropping some, here. Asking prices.

prices lag behind other indicators.

DOM days on market is rising. Number of houses dropping their original asking prices is also increasing.
 Quoting: beeches


2008 was a slow a slow ride for most markets. There were good deals to be had all the way till 2012. This looking similar.
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03/30/2023 09:25 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
right now the job market is holding it up.

anyone can get a job


if AI truly takes over the prices will tank 95% lol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 81566217


There’s still a supply shortage.

People got great rates don’t want to sell. That limits supply that was already limited before.

Interest rates are still historically low.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84188076


People move all the time, especially in todays society. We are already seeing a surge in inventory with limited buyers.

Interest rates are historically low... LOL. My first house I was at a 18% mortgage rate- so in tardland you are right. But I only had to pay $37k for the house, that is now worth $425k. LOL
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Ya and let’s say you bought that house for 37k… you’re sitting on nearly 400k in equity. That gives people options.

And lots of people that would have moved before now won’t because they don’t want to give up their rates. Like for a job offer in a new state that before might have been worth it but now isn’t.
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03/30/2023 09:26 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
Historically RE is overpriced by 25%. But you forgot the real inflation rate of 25%. Wall St put their money into RE to hedge against inflation.

Prices are NOT coming down. Home sales will collapse but prices will not. This is a direct cause of 25% inflation.
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Listen to this real estate agent. Buy now!
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03/30/2023 09:26 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
prices are holding on, dropping some, here. Asking prices.

prices lag behind other indicators.

DOM days on market is rising. Number of houses dropping their original asking prices is also increasing.
 Quoting: beeches


2008 was a slow a slow ride for most markets. There were good deals to be had all the way till 2012. This looking similar.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85210841


And we are now 1.5 years in essentially on a slowdown. This is a normal price correction after a huge run up.

You’re just praying that people lose their jobs.
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03/30/2023 09:28 AM
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
A client of mine asked me to run a real estate forecast for the next 3- 5 years. Picutre is not pretty. My area is overvalued by 29-30% currently, however throw in the run up of mortgage rates doubling since 2022 and we are looking at a horrible situation. So if Interest rates were still 3-3.5% I could comfortably say that a 25-35% reduction in home prices in my area would be expected. However due to mortgage rates, I can not justify anything less than a 47% or more drop from current prices. If you are selling, think about holding on or expect a severe drop from here. If you must sell, be realistic and get competitive right from the start- this means dropping your price 10-20% from your closest comps...
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what market are you in OP? Here in SE TX things are still fairly strong
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03/30/2023 09:28 AM
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Still zero
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
Historically RE is overpriced by 25%. But you forgot the real inflation rate of 25%. Wall St put their money into RE to hedge against inflation.

Prices are NOT coming down. Home sales will collapse but prices will not. This is a direct cause of 25% inflation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 82025842


Listen to this real estate agent. Buy now!
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Not a RE agent. I'm an investor. RE is the place to be. America is about to sink into destruction that the west, perhaps the world has never seen as dollars come back home. Where do you think every big and small Wall St firm is putting their money? RE. Prices are not coming down.
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LTD!
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Re: Real Estate Price Forecast
A client of mine asked me to run a real estate forecast for the next 3- 5 years. Picutre is not pretty. My area is overvalued by 29-30% currently, however throw in the run up of mortgage rates doubling since 2022 and we are looking at a horrible situation. So if Interest rates were still 3-3.5% I could comfortably say that a 25-35% reduction in home prices in my area would be expected. However due to mortgage rates, I can not justify anything less than a 47% or more drop from current prices. If you are selling, think about holding on or expect a severe drop from here. If you must sell, be realistic and get competitive right from the start- this means dropping your price 10-20% from your closest comps...
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what market are you in OP? Here in SE TX things are still fairly strong
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red states aren't going to drop because they never traded for more then it cost to build and now that is prime real estate. especially oil producing states





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