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I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.

 
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I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
I cant find anymore a simple pickup truck.
Electric everything i dont want or need. Just more stuff to break. I like roll up windows. I like standard manual shift. I dont need air conditioning or a camera to back up. Whats wrong with mechanical adjusting seats.
Every issue and gadget is monetized making truck cost more than 50,60 70k thousand dollars.
It is sick.
Cant get it, cant have it, They wont make it.
I just read only 18% can drive standard shift.
A Tundra with a V6 was $60,000!
Cant even get a V8 no more.
Hey Chevy,,,,, how bout a V8 8foot bed 5speed standard shift with roll up windows for $20K
I bet you would sell thousands........
borji
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
There are new Toyotas just like you describe on sale in Mexico for $20-22k
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
I agree OP. I don't want that stuff on my ranch. All my vehicles are old because we can't afford to replace them, but why would we want the newer stuff. The metal is flimsy and too many electronic doo-dahs that just go bad. The def systems on tractors are a joke. My 2 that have it have cost me over 20,000 in repairs.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
You can but not 'off the lot', you'll have to order it and the salesman will fight you every inch of the way.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Nobody is interested in your first world problems pal.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
I was thinking about that today while driving my 23 year old car. Why would I get a new one? This one gets about the same mileage as a new one. I don't want or need a computer to massage my ass or tell me the weather.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Just extra shit that breaks. I got a jeep a few years ago trying to keep it simple and it still has so much electric crap I don’t need.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
A camper?
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
find a ford camper special with 6 cylinder. i could tow anything with the granny low and big brakes, got 20 mpg. so simple to maintain and keep running well after you learn it. its simple, big wrench, screwdriver, etc.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Brand new 2022 trucks still available for the shrewd buyer.

You can get a new Nissan Titan (V8 engine) for low 30's.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
I cant find anymore a simple pickup truck.
Electric everything i dont want or need. Just more stuff to break. I like roll up windows. I like standard manual shift. I dont need air conditioning or a camera to back up. Whats wrong with mechanical adjusting seats.
Every issue and gadget is monetized making truck cost more than 50,60 70k thousand dollars.
It is sick.
Cant get it, cant have it, They wont make it.
I just read only 18% can drive standard shift.
A Tundra with a V6 was $60,000!
Cant even get a V8 no more.
Hey Chevy,,,,, how bout a V8 8foot bed 5speed standard shift with roll up windows for $20K
I bet you would sell thousands........
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Remember the used car buy back program by Obama...?
How’s that working for the poor now
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Order it - stripped down - bare bones

Can be done
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Brand new 2022 trucks still available for the shrewd buyer.

You can get a new Nissan Titan (V8 engine) for low 30's.
 Quoting: VegasRick


I just checked to see if there was any new 2022 RAM 1500's still for sale and there is a gang of them.

New 2022 RAM 1500 Big Horn

DIESEL

MSRP $54,190

Asking $38,687

Local dealer in Las Vegas

That is a damn good deal for a new diesel that will outlast you. I bet I could get that down to $34,000 no problem, maybe less.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
I cant find anymore a simple pickup truck.
Electric everything i dont want or need...
 Quoting: borji

Because a lot of the electronic controls and safety features are mandated by law, the extra nick knacks are relatively easily installed and is where the real profits are made.

They don't want demandy, nit-picky skin-flint customers like you who want a 2023 performing truck at 1980's prices.

Go and get a "simple" fixer-upper and see how much a reliable rebuild costs. All of a sudden that fancy thing with all the bells and whistles, economy and performance looks like a bargain on a 120 monthly payment plan, warranty thrown in.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
They are making vehicles unaffordable by design. They want you on public transportation only. Soon only the upper middle class and up will be driving.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
heated seats are nice….winter camp out
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Brand new 2022 trucks still available for the shrewd buyer.

You can get a new Nissan Titan (V8 engine) for low 30's.
 Quoting: VegasRick


I just checked to see if there was any new 2022 RAM 1500's still for sale and there is a gang of them.

New 2022 RAM 1500 Big Horn

DIESEL

MSRP $54,190

Asking $38,687

Local dealer in Las Vegas

That is a damn good deal for a new diesel that will outlast you. I bet I could get that down to $34,000 no problem, maybe less.
 Quoting: VegasRick


That new diesel with all the electronic emissions controls, DEF and DPF systems isn’t going to last for shit. The current government regulations have destroyed all the fuel economy and durability that diesels used to have.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
There are new Toyotas just like you describe on sale in Mexico for $20-22k
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Most likely also not allowed to be brought into the usa due to epa bs, same reason you can't get small diesel trucks.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Get a nissan. I have 2. One with 220,000 and another with 150,000. Cheap but reliable. Smaller size but good trucks
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
American truck dealers do nothing but ass fuck their buyers with giant markups. Fuck ford, chevy, dodge and gmc.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
I see a 1968 Ford F100 in your future.

I head six cyl, 3 speed volume shift transmission, AM radio.

This is whatcha after..
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I see a 1968 Ford F100 in your future.

I head six cyl, 3 speed volume shift transmission, AM radio.

This is whatcha after..
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Tree on da tree!
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
There are new Toyotas just like you describe on sale in Mexico for $20-22k
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Really, how can I find one? But I guess it doesn't have the pollution shit needed for US, does it? Can I title it here?
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Brand new 2022 trucks still available for the shrewd buyer.

You can get a new Nissan Titan (V8 engine) for low 30's.
 Quoting: VegasRick


I just checked to see if there was any new 2022 RAM 1500's still for sale and there is a gang of them.

New 2022 RAM 1500 Big Horn

DIESEL

MSRP $54,190

Asking $38,687

Local dealer in Las Vegas

That is a damn good deal for a new diesel that will outlast you. I bet I could get that down to $34,000 no problem, maybe less.
 Quoting: VegasRick


Diesels don't last like they used to because of all the pollution control shit and DEF systems they load them up with.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
I have felt the same for years, but I don't really need a truck anymore.

When I did a lot more handyman work, it was my biggest complaint that they didn't simply build trucks for work.

Similar to a complaint I had when they were always building fancy apartment buildings, but never basic, affordable efficiencies.
230 here, but 0 there.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Brand new 2022 trucks still available for the shrewd buyer.

You can get a new Nissan Titan (V8 engine) for low 30's.
 Quoting: VegasRick


I just checked to see if there was any new 2022 RAM 1500's still for sale and there is a gang of them.

New 2022 RAM 1500 Big Horn

DIESEL

MSRP $54,190

Asking $38,687

Local dealer in Las Vegas

That is a damn good deal for a new diesel that will outlast you. I bet I could get that down to $34,000 no problem, maybe less.
 Quoting: VegasRick


That new diesel with all the electronic emissions controls, DEF and DPF systems isn’t going to last for shit. The current government regulations have destroyed all the fuel economy and durability that diesels used to have.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85543337


Yep.

You have to go back to 2006, for a good reliable diesel.

Dodge Cummins of coourse.

!994-1997 wold be even better.

If you don't need the torque and payload ability of a Dodge diesel, the 1988-98 Chevy Z71 is an excellent value.

V8 engine, 350 cubic inch, that is very reliable and will take a beating for a long time.

I have a 1997 with 275,000 miles on the engine, and it's still purring along nicely.

As for electric windows on older trucks, they seem to be very reliable.

I have a lot of old trucks, from 1992-2006, and all have electric windows, and they all work properly.

On the other hand, most of my trucks have blend and diverter door problems. Real pain in the ass when you absolutely, positively need defrost to blow ON THE WINDSHIELD!
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
There are new Toyotas just like you describe on sale in Mexico for $20-22k
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Turbo Diesel Tacomas too ohyeah
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America is thoroughly j'd
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
I cant find anymore a simple pickup truck.
Electric everything i dont want or need. Just more stuff to break. I like roll up windows. I like standard manual shift. I dont need air conditioning or a camera to back up. Whats wrong with mechanical adjusting seats.
Every issue and gadget is monetized making truck cost more than 50,60 70k thousand dollars.
It is sick.
Cant get it, cant have it, They wont make it.
I just read only 18% can drive standard shift.
A Tundra with a V6 was $60,000!
Cant even get a V8 no more.
Hey Chevy,,,,, how bout a V8 8foot bed 5speed standard shift with roll up windows for $20K
I bet you would sell thousands........
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Just buy a classic 70's pickup, and have it restored to better than new, some tasty upgrades. I see it done on those motor shows all day long.

You'll fooking love it.

Don;'t be giving mega bucks for these nasty plastic electric rigs that they can shutdown remotely.

Give the money to an artisan, a master mechanic who can take a barn find and make it a 1000x sexier, cooler, durable and practicable than these EV fagwags.
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Re: I wish we could buy a simple no frills pickup truck minus all the gadget fancy boolchit.
Order it - stripped down - bare bones

Can be done
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I dont think it is possible to order a true "bare bones" vehicle today having roll-up windows and no computers or any of the other unnecessary crap which nobody really needs and which adds many thousands to the price of a vehicle.

None of us need all this bullshit that is added to todays vehicles, except the rich daddies girls who cant possibly survive without seat warmers because minor discomfort like a chilly butt is just too much of a burden to want to carry on another day in life!

And when all this BS stuff breaks or malfunctions, the parts and labor is insane. Its ridiculous.





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