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If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?

 
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If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
If China invaded the US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the entire West collapse militarily?

I mean maybe not collapse short term but collapse over a prolonged 25 year war? The West suffers from collective ADD and can’t pay attention to two wars at once ( both Russia and China at the same time).
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
If we go to war with both you can bet your ass it goes nuclear. Don't live in a deluded fantasy land to think it won't.
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04/16/2023 03:41 AM
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
If we go to war with both you can bet your ass it goes nuclear. Don't live in a deluded fantasy land to think it won't.
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RIP San Francisco then.

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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
I would not object to them having San Fransico.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
Human civilization would collapse. An attack on NATO would mean global nuclear war. 200 - 300 millions would die immediately.

Within 6 weeks (read the papers about nuclear winter from 2006/07) global temperature would go down 11.5 - 13.5 C°. Within 5 years 95 - 99% of all remaining humans would die, most by starvation or by beeing slaughtered and eaten.

So stop living in your fantasy world about "regular" wars or how you would survive. All outside of DUMBs will die. Some will be just lucky and die faster.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
Russia can't even capture the small town of Bakhmut, and you think they're going to conquer Europe.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
If China invaded the US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the entire West collapse militarily?

I mean maybe not collapse short term but collapse over a prolonged 25 year war? The West suffers from collective ADD and can’t pay attention to two wars at once ( both Russia and China at the same time).
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Idiots like you who think the USA will simply roll over dead are kidding yourselves.

We burned Japan twice and have no qualms about burning this entire planet 100 times over.

Have you canucks ever heard of 'Fuck around and Find out'???
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
Human civilization would collapse. An attack on NATO would mean global nuclear war. 200 - 300 millions would die immediately.

Within 6 weeks (read the papers about nuclear winter from 2006/07) global temperature would go down 11.5 - 13.5 C°. Within 5 years 95 - 99% of all remaining humans would die, most by starvation or by beeing slaughtered and eaten.

So stop living in your fantasy world about "regular" wars or how you would survive. All outside of DUMBs will die. Some will be just lucky and die faster.
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I suspect that people in Agadez, Niger would survive. The town of Agadez is in the middle of the Sahara desert, it has a population of 110,000 and has existed for 700 years in spite of the terrible weather.

If the climate cools down 13 degrees, then it would become easier to live there.

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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
Human civilization would collapse. An attack on NATO would mean global nuclear war. 200 - 300 millions would die immediately.

Within 6 weeks (read the papers about nuclear winter from 2006/07) global temperature would go down 11.5 - 13.5 C°. Within 5 years 95 - 99% of all remaining humans would die, most by starvation or by beeing slaughtered and eaten.

So stop living in your fantasy world about "regular" wars or how you would survive. All outside of DUMBs will die. Some will be just lucky and die faster.
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Idk man.. If your out-of-the-loop ass can grasp the implications of a nuclear war, it seems unlikely that all the war experts would sign off on using those methods these days. They’ve been sitting on nukes and the knowledge of their risks for decades. I’d be quite surprised if they (on all sides) haven’t developed weapons that they can use without wiping themselves out too. Even the elite don’t want to reduce the population by 99%; there’d be no slaves to do their dirty work.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
Russia can't even capture the small town of Bakhmut, and you think they're going to conquer Europe.
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No, I am thinking they would attack Europe only if, as a precondition, the USA gets bogged down in a war with China over Taiwan in 2025. If the USA is bogged down with China, this created ideal conditions for Russia to attack Poland, Germany, France, etc.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
Nuclear Winter has been proven to be MSM pseudo-science. Oh, and France and Germany will be leaving NATO soon. France has already begun the process.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
America is destroying itself from within no need for Russia or China. As for Germany and Poland these are low tier countries who will do the bidding of whoever manages to take control of Europe after the collapse of the United States.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
If China invaded the US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the entire West collapse militarily?

I mean maybe not collapse short term but collapse over a prolonged 25 year war? The West suffers from collective ADD and can’t pay attention to two wars at once ( both Russia and China at the same time).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85612037




Idiots like you who think the USA will simply roll over dead are kidding yourselves.

We burned Japan twice and have no qualms about burning this entire planet 100 times over.

Have you canucks ever heard of 'Fuck around and Find out'???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318



nobody has forgotten that you are the only country who has ever used nuclear weapons and wiped out hundreds of thousands in one swoop

karma hasn't forgotten either


you have , however , seem to have forgotten karma


bad idea
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
America spend 50% of gdp on its Military every year. No one else comes close.

For anyone to start a major conflict anywhere and they expect to be fighting the USA in that conflict then their best hope is to stop the USA before they can get to that battlefield and fight.

If America seriously wanted to win these conflicts you would see the stuff they are really spending that money on.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
I'd pay $ - to watch how they handle the "feral" populations.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
I'd pay $ - to watch how they handle the "feral" populations.
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Why would they bother?

Nuke the military, keep you off the battlefield and let America fall into anarchy.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
It wouldnt take much to push the US over the edge to collapse.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
The West would collapse if there were any newsworthy mass casualty event of political or military significance. It’d have to happen in the West though,not Indonesia or Fukushima. New York obviously,Atlanta perhaps,San Francisco respectively. Washington DC has swept China under the rug for decades,they love talkin’ bout Russia though. They’d probably hide from cameras,roll propaganda & pledge for financial support. Supersede the media & go right to emergency broadcast. The good weather we’re having we’re liable to lose control of our metropolises on account of rampant criminal youth,riots. Deploy National Guard over nothing & Start a War in the streets.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
If China invaded the US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the entire West collapse militarily?

I mean maybe not collapse short term but collapse over a prolonged 25 year war? The West suffers from collective ADD and can’t pay attention to two wars at once ( both Russia and China at the same time).
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85612037




Idiots like you who think the USA will simply roll over dead are kidding yourselves.

We burned Japan twice and have no qualms about burning this entire planet 100 times over.

Have you canucks ever heard of 'Fuck around and Find out'???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78701318



nobody has forgotten that you are the only country who has ever used nuclear weapons and wiped out hundreds of thousands in one swoop

karma hasn't forgotten either


you have , however , seem to have forgotten karma


bad idea
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85636889



'Karma' is not forgotten, it just comes and goes:

[BTW - Are you looking to fuck around/find out too?? We got a demented pedophile running the show here after all]

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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
America spend 50% of gdp on its Military every year. No one else comes close.

For anyone to start a major conflict anywhere and they expect to be fighting the USA in that conflict then their best hope is to stop the USA before they can get to that battlefield and fight.

If America seriously wanted to win these conflicts you would see the stuff they are really spending that money on.
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^^^^ This Aussie 'gets it' ^^^^^
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
If China invaded the US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the entire West collapse militarily?

I mean maybe not collapse short term but collapse over a prolonged 25 year war? The West suffers from collective ADD and can’t pay attention to two wars at once ( both Russia and China at the same time).
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Uh, it already collapsed militarily. You haven't been paying attention very well.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
Both of your hypothetical acts warrant a U.S. nuclear response.
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Re: If China attacked US West coast (San Francisco) at the same time as Russia invaded Poland and Germany, would the West collapse militarily?
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