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Kundalini and Demon Possession - What you donīt know CAN hurt you!

 
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I believe that there are a number of ways that kundalini or epiphany - I would call it demon possession - can be achieved.

These include, but its probably not an exclusive list:

1) Orgiastic sex, tantric sex of visualising yourself having sex with a spirit, God or even being that God.

2) Drugs - these are typically an aid and there is a long history of groups such as the Hashishin, Sufi, Vedics, shamans, Cults of Dyonisus etc using various drugs to help "enlightenment".

3) Trance like repetitive music and chanting. Used by many cultures. The Sufi have the Swirling Dervish. The swirl is the spiral of the Goddess and Daeva is the root word of our Devil or demons.

4) Meditation - particularly of the type which encourages you to release your "ego" or your "will", thus aiding in bringing the "union with the divine". Many forms of Yoga encourage this as indeed does the Marian Rosary within the Catholic Church. The rosary also involves repetitive chanting and calling on the Queen of Heaven, who is not Mary at all but is a representation for Kali, Ishtar, etc.

5) Masochism - pain releasing flows of endorphins and creating a detached state where your will is again released thus allowing possession.

Isnīt it interesting how these things have all permeated our culture in recent years? The Sex, Drugs and Rock īnī Roll, followed by the mystic Ashrams and Swamiīs and then the whole S&M culture.

I believe that anything which involves any loss of will is very dangerous. Hence, the main methods appear to be sex, drugs, trance like music, deep meditation. The mechanism I believe for the loss of control is the kundalini as described in the above article. Some other cults like that of Dyonisus/Bacchus have called it epiphany and shamanic practisioners have other names for it.

But it all amounts to the same thing. Release your will and evil forces will be only too happy to move in and take over.
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Now, to bring this to the contemporary world and the forces that are working to build the New World Order.

This is a poem from a Sufi mystic:

"I follow the religion of Love,
Now I am sometimes called
A Shepherd of gazellas
And now a Christian monk,
And now a Persian sage.
My beloved is three-
Three yet only one;
Many things appear as three,
Which are no more than one.
Give her no name,
As if to limit (her to) one
At sight of Whom
All limitation is confounded."
.........Ibn El-Arabi (1165-1240)"

It clearly shows how easily they slip from one religion to another. This is the inflitration by "Brotherhoods". The Sufiīs are but one of those "Brotherhoods", there are many more that you may be more familiar with that inflitrated Judaism and Christianity with the mystics ideas. The Knights Templar, Freemasons, Kabbalists, Chassidic "Jews".

The Sufi poem also shows the Vedic Trinity, that is really the Goddess Kali, or Shakti when joined with Shiva. It is also Ishtar, Isis, Venus, Aphrodite, Mara and many other names of the Trinity Goddess.

Have a look at the places where the US and NATO have intervened lately - Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan. They all have large Sufi Orders. It is these Orders they moved in to protect.

Karzai and most of his cabinet are Sufi - I wouldnīt even call them "Muslim" since it is an insult to Islam. They are Goddess worshipping mystics.

You can see from this BBC broadcast how the Sufi reneisance is happening in Afghanistan - and with this an explosion in the export of opium!!

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Now, opium! There is an interesting link, it brings us back to drugs and their role in achieving "enlightenment", or in actuality possession by a spirit.

The Skull and Bones was founded by the Eastern "Brahmin" of the US liberal establishment. Many of these people had worked for the East India Company, who of course were so involved in the Opium Wars. Many of them made their money from either drug-running or the slave trade. They are an offshoot of another Brotherhood. The German Brotherhood of Death, of which Hitler was a part.

"Elihu Yale was born near Boston, educated in London, and served with the British East India Company, eventually becoming governor of Fort Saint George, Madras, in 1687. He amassed a great fortune from trade and returned to England in 1699. Yale became known as quite a philanthropist; upon receiving a request from the Collegiate School in Connecticut, he sent a donation and a gift of books. After subsequent bequests, Cotton Mather suggested the school be named Yale College, in 1718."

William Huntington Russell founded the Skulls.

"In 1823, Samuel Russell established Russell and Company for the purpose of acquiring opium in Turkey and smuggling it to China. Russell and Company merged with the Perkins (Boston) syndicate in 1830 and became the primary American opium smuggler. Many of the great American and European fortunes were built on the "China"(opium) trade."

[link to www.voxfux.com]

Now, what is the importance of this?

Remember the links that the Ishmaili Shiaīs had with hashish, indeed they were called the hashishin. Also the Vedaīs are obsessed with the drug "Soma". Drugs, of course, are one of the plank of the routes to "awakening" or "enlightenment".

They are used in many cultures to communicate with the spirits. I believe that as hard drugs weaken the will, they provide the opportunity for demon possession, hence their importance for the occult.

Now, back to the Sufi Order. One of the important things about the Sufiīs is their Whirling Dervish.

Never mind the word "dervish" and that this could be derived from "daeva" (or demon) in Old Farsi. The Whirl itself is the spiral of the Goddess. Many cultures again have "trance" type music which can lead to the same state of will suppression as drugs.

Again I believe this provides for the possibility of demon possession while the music alters the brain mood and rhythm, creating a trance like state and suppressing will.

The other ways to achieve this "awakening", which I really think is the point at which the demon enters is through meditation and certain types of sex.

Here you have your "sex, drugs and rockīnīroll" culture that has been so blatantly promoted by people who have occult links.

The article below explaining the links between the major groups and the occult, written by a former Blondie member, appeared in the Independent newspaper in the UK on April 15, 2001.

[link to static.highbeam.com]
/culturedarkmusemagicyeatskandinskyandthebeatleswer/

Lay on top of this the Eastern "mysticism" that was introduced with the same movement and you have your mix for the Cult of Dionysus that had swept previous generations.

[link to www.geocities.com]

"The purpose of their actions is the participation in a total epiphany of Dionysus."

This is actually the point of possession, the Kundalini when the serpent rises and takes control.

It is very true indeed that those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it. Unfortunately this lack of remembrance, or of understanding and respecting the views of our ancestors leads to the same thing.

Just because you donīt understand something doesnīt mean it canīt hurt you.
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Now, to bring this to the contemporary world and the forces that are working to build the New World Order.

This is a poem from a Sufi mystic:

"I follow the religion of Love,
Now I am sometimes called
A Shepherd of gazellas
And now a Christian monk,
And now a Persian sage.
My beloved is three-
Three yet only one;
Many things appear as three,
Which are no more than one.
Give her no name,
As if to limit (her to) one
At sight of Whom
All limitation is confounded."
.........Ibn El-Arabi (1165-1240)"

It clearly shows how easily they slip from one religion to another. This is the inflitration by "Brotherhoods". The Sufiīs are but one of those "Brotherhoods", there are many more that you may be more familiar with that inflitrated Judaism and Christianity with the mystics ideas. The Knights Templar, Freemasons, Kabbalists, Chassidic "Jews".

The Sufi poem also shows the Vedic Trinity, that is really the Goddess Kali, or Shakti when joined with Shiva. It is also Ishtar, Isis, Venus, Aphrodite, Mara and many other names of the Trinity Goddess.

Have a look at the places where the US and NATO have intervened lately - Bosnia, Kosovo, Afghanistan. They all have large Sufi Orders. It is these Orders they moved in to protect.

Karzai and most of his cabinet are Sufi - I wouldnīt even call them "Muslim" since it is an insult to Islam. They are Goddess worshipping mystics.

You can see from this BBC broadcast how the Sufi reneisance is happening in Afghanistan - and with this an explosion in the export of opium!!

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Now, opium! There is an interesting link, it brings us back to drugs and their role in achieving "enlightenment", or in actuality possession by a spirit.

The Skull and Bones was founded by the Eastern "Brahmin" of the US liberal establishment. Many of these people had worked for the East India Company, who of course were so involved in the Opium Wars. Many of them made their money from either drug-running or the slave trade. They are an offshoot of another Brotherhood. The German Brotherhood of Death, of which Hitler was a part.

"Elihu Yale was born near Boston, educated in London, and served with the British East India Company, eventually becoming governor of Fort Saint George, Madras, in 1687. He amassed a great fortune from trade and returned to England in 1699. Yale became known as quite a philanthropist; upon receiving a request from the Collegiate School in Connecticut, he sent a donation and a gift of books. After subsequent bequests, Cotton Mather suggested the school be named Yale College, in 1718."

William Huntington Russell founded the Skulls.

"In 1823, Samuel Russell established Russell and Company for the purpose of acquiring opium in Turkey and smuggling it to China. Russell and Company merged with the Perkins (Boston) syndicate in 1830 and became the primary American opium smuggler. Many of the great American and European fortunes were built on the "China"(opium) trade."

[link to www.voxfux.com]

Now, what is the importance of this?

Remember the links that the Ishmaili Shiaīs had with hashish, indeed they were called the hashishin. Also the Vedaīs are obsessed with the drug "Soma". Drugs, of course, are one of the plank of the routes to "awakening" or "enlightenment".

They are used in many cultures to communicate with the spirits. I believe that as hard drugs weaken the will, they provide the opportunity for demon possession, hence their importance for the occult.

Now, back to the Sufi Order. One of the important things about the Sufiīs is their Whirling Dervish.

Never mind the word "dervish" and that this could be derived from "daeva" (or demon) in Old Farsi. The Whirl itself is the spiral of the Goddess. Many cultures again have "trance" type music which can lead to the same state of will suppression as drugs.

Again I believe this provides for the possibility of demon possession while the music alters the brain mood and rhythm, creating a trance like state and suppressing will.

The other ways to achieve this "awakening", which I really think is the point at which the demon enters is through meditation and certain types of sex.

Here you have your "sex, drugs and rockīnīroll" culture that has been so blatantly promoted by people who have occult links.

The article below explaining the links between the major groups and the occult, written by a former Blondie member, appeared in the Independent newspaper in the UK on April 15, 2001.

[link to static.highbeam.com]
/culturedarkmusemagicyeatskandinskyandthebeatleswer/

Lay on top of this the Eastern "mysticism" that was introduced with the same movement and you have your mix for the Cult of Dionysus that had swept previous generations.

[link to www.geocities.com]

"The purpose of their actions is the participation in a total epiphany of Dionysus."

This is actually the point of possession, the Kundalini when the serpent rises and takes control.

It is very true indeed that those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it. Unfortunately this lack of remembrance, or of understanding and respecting the views of our ancestors leads to the same thing.

Just because you donīt understand something doesnīt mean it canīt hurt you.
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This was a response to an interesting question posed on GLP by one of the people there. It is interesting because it shows how dangerous practices are being openly encouraged to achieve the critical takeover mass. I know PuPP that some would call this "lizard possession", but this I believe is just a modern day disguise for a much older evil of demons. Heck, our history is full of warnings from our ancestors:


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"Seriously, more and more people are attracted to yoga and meditation as part of a way to manage a stressing lifestyle in the western world... I did attended a yoga/ mediation group for almost 2 years, and I felt it very relaxing and energy-building.

I guess I have to read more into this before I attend a such course again..."



There are so many people who are just following the path that is being laid out for them without really thinking about what they are doing. This is a problem that has its roots in our education system where people are just encouraged to accept knowledge without questioning it.

So much has happened in the last 40 years that it is difficult to assimilate but there is little doubt in my mind that if the population is being encouraged to go in a specific direction then it is a good idea not to go there.

An interesting example of this is the Government "food pyramids". Government "advice" on healthy eating really kicked in during the 1970īs and it has been very successful indeed. All the figures, readily available from the UK National Statistics office, show that people have reduced their intake of saturated fat and have adopted the Government vision of a "healthier diet".

Yet the flip side of the figures speak for themselves too. They try to hide these by dotting them across multiple reports but the data is there for those who are dilligent enough to find it.

The percentage of overweight and obese people in the UK rose from 48% to 56% amongst women in just 8 years from 1993-2001. Amongst men it rose from 57% to 68% over the same period. I have no doubt that it has been rising by about 10% every 8 years since the Government started giving heavy duty advice.

This graph is interesting. Since 1972 more and more people are self-reporting crippling illness. A trend that reverses the downward trend of the previous centuries.

[link to www.statistics.gov.uk]

Also you can look at the explosion of drug taking, binge drinking, depression, etc, etc and you can quite easily trace the sources back to those who are inspiring a societal breakdown situation.

Now, back to the "New Age Solutions". These have been manufactured in the same way to deal with the problems that were quite deliberately created with previous Government inspired intervention programs in peopleīs lives.

They are a trap, if people could be bothered to check, just as the previous "lifestyle" advisories were. The problem is that people have become so used to listening to "experts" and "gurus" that they have lost the capacity to search out research for themselves and properly assess the implications of "therapies" for themselves.

We live in the age of "multiple-choice education", the paradigm shift that began in the 1960īs but had its roots in the occult secret societies of the ages - that became "externalised" in the "Open Conspiracy" of HG Wells and the writings of Helena Blavatsky and then Alice Bailey in the 1920īs. It is in the 1920īs that the "seeds" were sown with the globalising institutions that were to pollute all our education and social systems.

Most people are not really aware of this paradigm shift, since, as you know, "the devil creeps up with small steps." If, today, you asked one of your fellow citizens, how he thought back in the 1960īs, most people wouldnīt recognize themselves.

This is what the Schiller Institute had to say:

"In the domain of education in 1963, the founder of the Club of Rome, Dr. Alexander King (then, Commissioner for the O.E.C.D. in Paris), had proposed an education reform for the O.E.C.D. nations, and this original report was an absolutely unheard-of attack on what still remained of the Humboldt education system in the post-war period. In Kingīs study, everything was discussed in a Nietzschean sense: that we must throw the "educational dead weight" of the last 2,500 years out the window. This campaign, launched by the O.E.C.D., was then carried out in Germany in the 1970īs in the wake of the Brandt education reforms."

"A second essential point which was introduced at that time—and people shouldnīt think that it was an "organic" demand of the people—was the so-called rock-drug-sex counterculture. With enormous publicity and expenditures of money, rock groups were systematically built up; the drug trade was progressively expanded; and the so-called "sexual revolution" was manufactured after that, to undermine the foundations of Christian-humanist culture."

"The result was an almost complete loss of values. Academic achievement criteria were dismissed as "capitalist utilitarianism," advanced industrial society was written off as a system of coercion that would do violence to true human nature."

This is an article worth reading:

[link to www.schillerinstitute.org]

Basically, you dumb down the population through state education - the multiple choice generation - and then you can get these people to believe anything at all, as long as it comes from an "expert" or "guru".

It began with the destruction of the classicist method of teaching and learning. As the Schiller Institute puts it:

"This rediscovery and re-experiencing corresponds to the sovereign capacity of the individual which constitutes his identity. Moreover, the mediation of culture through Classical humanist education is the active principle of the historical method, and the same holds true for art and science. To deny this quality of education to children—that is, not to actually implant them in the long process of scientific creativity and transmission of scientific knowledge—is a violation of the inalienable rights of man, because the first right of a human being is to be able to develop these capacities. Indeed, I would go even further, and maintain that it is a crime against humanity."

What this is essntially saying is that the state education system is systematically destroying the capacity to THINK and replacing it with blind acceptance.

This is what you see in the cultural area as well and it is what has again made mankind susceptible to the lure of the "mystery religions" and the "secret knowledge". With the capacity to see through the deception destroyed by our education system, the people happily follow their "masters", "gurus", "bubbas", etc even if the road leads to their eternal destruction.

Heck, how are they supposed to know any different? They have got used to listening to the sage words of Hollywood stars and "experts". When both tell them to jump off a cliff because it is good for them, then that is exactly what they go and do.

Demons donīt exist because it is "unscientific", so say those "experts". I am sorry but there are a lot of things that may be construed as "scientific" that cannot possibly exist, and the same applies the other way around to.

Verily is it written that the world will end to the sound of an "expert" saying that "this cannot possibly happen".

Before you walk into the well prepared traps it pays to re-engage brain first. Never surrender your ego or your will. Never be ashamed of questioning. Those are the first lesson. The rest flows quite naturally from this.
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Now, to get back to the issue of demon possession. It is interesting that a renowned psychologist Dr. Ralph B. Allison studied Multiple Personality Disorders and Dissociative Indentity Disorders and pretty much reached the conclussion from his thousands of subjects that some kind of possession may be the true cause.

Absolutely fascinating article on the subject here:

MULTIPLE PERSONALITY DISORDER,
DISSOCIATIVE IDENTITY DISORDER AND
INTERNALIZED IMAGINARY COMPANIONS
[link to www.heart7.net]

One important thing that he noticed was that the effects on those aged pre-7 were much greater and very different. Children abused before the age of 7 were more likely to exhibit Inner Self Helpers, amongs other symptoms.

Very interesting given the cult of child abuse and pedophilia amongst occult New World Order groupings. Also interesting in light of Hitlerīs comment - "Give me a child until the age of 7 and I will give you the man"

This is what Allison said:

"Only those patients who had dissociated due to life-threatening trauma before age seven manifested Inner Self Helpers (ISH) (Allison, 1980). They were disabled and needed structured hypnotherapy with age revivification. They were the ones who demonstrated Original Personalities who abdicated control of the body because of the original trauma. I felt this select group, small as it was, deserved the diagnostic label of MPD. "

Interesting eh - the Original Personality had abdicated control!

Also in another case he speaks of an ISH personality that does not integrate at all with the Original Personality.

"I talked to Michael on the telephone and in person. He appeared in the judgeīs chambers to offer suggestion for her post-conviction placement. He was an ISH who did not integrate with her personalities."

Again, perhaps our ancestors understood more than we in our scientific wisdom can comprehend.
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More interesting stuff.

"Catharsis" or "epiphany" was described by the Cult of Dionysus/Bacchus as follows:

"The body is disabled by paroxysms of ecstasy. Normal Judgment is, to say the least, suspended. Surrounding objects are obscured by frank hallucinations of vortexes and floodlights, or else theyīre transformed by luminous halos and revelatory detail. Voices from elsewhere are heard dictating instructions or secret messages. Then, thereīs that painful sense of the meaningfulness of everything. Seized by the immanent symbolism in the world, the subject reports talking to, seeing, or becoming God." - David Pursh in Omni, October ī93

Interesting that the word "catharsis" is used here since it links with a Gnostics movement the Cathars in southern France in the 10th century. This found its way via Eastern Europe and originally from the Manichaean heresy within the monotheistic Zoroastrian religion of Persia. The Cathars had links to the Sufi movements. Their belief system also had incredible similarities to the Druids beliefs, of course Gaul having been one of the areas of the Druids.

Interestingly as well, one of the main dates celebrated by the Cathars was the Epiphany, thus linking the two words.

Dr Ralph Allison was a psychiatrist that did much research in the areas of Multiple Personality Disorders and Dissociative Identity Disorder.

He is considered a pioneer in the modern treatment of MPD, says bluntly that many of his multiple personality patients have exhibited symptoms of possession. He has described his encounters with aspects of their personalities which were not true alters. He found it difficult to dismiss these bizarre occurrences as delusion. With no "logical" explanation, he has come to believe in the possibility of spirit possession.

Allison (1980) describes numerous cases of apparent spirit possession in MPD. He has developed a conceptual scheme which distinguishes five levels or types of possession:

Simple obsessive compulsive neurosis.
Thought forms and created beings.
An aspect or fragment of the mind of a living person.
The earthbound spirit who once lived as a human being.
Full demonic possession.

Dr. Allison states that he has corresponded with many professionals who have come to similar conclusions about the origin and purpose of alter personalities (1985).

Osiris and Dyonisos one and the same. Isis is Venus with whom Dyonisos is linked. Isis is, of course, the Serpent Goddess Kali.

Educate yourself and the present world becomes very clear. Then you will understand the subtle deviousness of the New Age followers who want to make you the slaves of demons again.

"Osiris is he who is called Dionysos in the Greek tongue." - Herodotus, The Histories

"...Osiris is the same as Dionysos, and who should know better than you, Clea, since you are at once the leader of the Thyades [female initiates who celebrated on sacred sites the nocturnal orgies of Bacchus] at Delphi and have been consecrated in the Isirian rites by your father and mother?" - Plutarch, Isis and Osiris

"The Ptolemies, Greek successors of Alexander the Great and rulers of Egypt, established the cult of Sarapis, a name which derives from that of Osorapis, a god who combined the attributes of Osiris and the sacred bull god Apis. Apis was supposedly transformed into Osiris after death, thus gaining the kind of divine immortality which was open to the human devotees of Osiris. The cult center of Osorapis was at Memphis in Lower Egypt. The liturgy of the new worship of Sarapis was a combination of Egyptian and Greek, and the popularity of the god grew quite rapidly. By the first century A.D. it became officially recognized in Rome. The ritual was chiefly concerned with the three figures of Osiris (or Sarapis), Isis, and Horus their son, but the dominant member of the triad was the goddess." - Ninian Smart, The Religious Experience of Mankind

In Memphis (in the northern sector of Saqqara) is the Serapeum where the huge tombs of Apis bulls are located. Worshipped as the incarnation of Ptah, the god of Memphis, during its lifetime, each Apis bull was mummified at death. "Being then identified with Osiris under the name of Osiris-Apis (or Osorapis), he was taken with great pomp to is last resting place prepared for him in the Serapeum....Here Ptolemy I had "the object of founding...a cult area that would enable Egyptians and Greeks alike to join in a community of beliefs acceptable to each..." - Jean-Philipe Lauer, Saqqara

"...As for what the priests openly do in the burial of the Apis when they transport its carcass on a raft, this in no ways falls short of Bacchic revelry, for they wear fawn-skins [symbolizing rebirth] and carry thyrsus-rods [tipped with pine-cones and garlanded with ivy] and produce shouts and movements as do the ecstatic celebrants of the Dionysiac orgies..." - Plutarch, Isis and Osiris

"The touch of the rod of power (thyrsus) on the head, which formed part of the ancient ceremony, in the hand of the initiating hierophant, always had the same effect - the attainment of spiritual illumination." - Geoffrey Hodson, "The Still-functioning Greater and Lesser Mysteries"

"The retinue of sacred animals ridden by Dionysos as a child or as a young man...shows that proper īDionysiac rites were practiced there and proves without doubt the establishment in Egypt of the cult of Serapic and of Greek ideas by Ptolemy I at the beginning of the third century BC. This is also the case with the strange semi-circle of Greek poets and philosophers erected at the junction of the avenue of sphinxes with the dromos [paved avenue]." - Jean-Philipe Lauer, Saqqara
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OK, I havenīt done this yet, but it is relevant to what this thread is about. Let me explain to you what kundalini actually is:

"Tantra Yoga is a product of Shaktiism, the worship of the Hindu supreme goddess, Shakti (Power). Shakti is worshiped as both the divine will and the divine mother who calls for absolute surrender. In her fierce destructive aspect she is depicted as Kali. Shakti is also the power that lies dormant in the base of the spine, coiled like a serpent (kundalini). Kundalini energy is aroused and guided up the spine to open chakras and attain spiritual liberation. It is the rising of this serpent power that marks the removal of karma and the push toward enlightenment. "

Shakti is Kali. Kundalini is Shakti. If you do some very basic reading about Kali then you can work it out for yourself. Kundalini is quite simply the possession of the body by the very serpent of Genesis. And I can assure you, if you find out anything about Kali then I am sure you shanīt want this prehistoric bitch anywhere near you!

Go for it if you must, God gave us all free will. But ignore His warnings if you must.

After all you have nothing to lose but your soul!
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Warnings from the past:

"It is the plain speaking of St. Nilos of Sinai, however, that slashes through with distinct clarity to present a serious juxtaposition to the alleged Divine visitation that Francis experienced. In the Text on Prayer, he admonishes: "Never desire nor seek any face or image during prayer. Do not wish for sensory vision or angels, or powers, or Christ, lest you lose your mind by mistaking the wolf for the shepherd and worship the enemies — the demons. The beginning of the beguilement (plani) of the mind is vainglory, which moves the mind to try and represent the Deity in some form or image. [12]

Francisī ecstatic prayer was answered, but in the light of both St. Isaacīs and St. Nilosī counsels, clearly not by Christ. The chronicle says that "Francis felt himself completely transformed into Christ," transformed not only in spirit, but also in body, i.e., not only in spiritual and psychological sensations, but also in physical ones. While granting that Francis was fully convinced that he had been spiritually taken up to the Logos, the rise of special physical sensations cannot, according to St. Isaac, be ascribed to the action of a spiritually good power."

[link to www.fatheralexander.org]

Let me repeat one bit because this is VERY important:

"Do not wish for sensory vision or angels, or powers, or Christ, lest you lose your mind by mistaking the wolf for the shepherd and worship the enemies — the demons. The beginning of the beguilement (plani) of the mind is vainglory, which moves the mind to try and represent the Deity in some form or image. [12]"

Both Tantric and Kabbalistic right hand path meditation involves just such visualisation. The dangers are there. The warnings abound and history has countless examples of those who were clearly possessed.

The Lords of Deception and the Goddess of Chaos will tempt you to keep trying. Never forget that they inhabit the Churches, the mosques and the synagogoues too. The demon possessed have no control and are totally plausible. But they know why they want you to do this.

So that YOU can be added to the list of those whose self they have stripped, those whose ego that have destroyed and replaced. So YOU will do their work, except that it will no longer be YOU or indeed have anything to do with God.

But somewhere you can be sure to hear the voice of a Goddess laughing.

That is the lesson and message of our history. Interesting indeed that Kali is sometimes called Kali Devi. The Devi is the root word of Devil. Indeed even our language warns us. But we chose to stop listening long ago and the dawning of the evil New World Order is the lesson and punishment.
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So what is your point?
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A quick listen to some U2 lyrics (actually nothing but prayers to the Dark Goddess) will show you who the "Illuminati" really are:

In Godīs Country by U2

Set me alight
Weīll punch a hole right through the night
Everyday the dreamers die
See whatīs on the other side

She is liberty
And she comes to rescue me
Hope, faith, her vanity
The greatest gift is gold

Sleep comes like a drug
In Godīs Country
Sad eyes, crooked crosses
In Godīs Country

Naked flame
She stands with a naked flame
I stand with the sons of Cain
Burned by the fire of love
Burned by the fire of love

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Let me repeat that:

She stands with the naked flame
I stand with the Sons of Cain.

Indeed. There is your Illuminati. The Sons of Cain.

What do you all know about the Thugee?

What do you all know about the Danave (India) or the Children of Danu (DīAnu) or the Tuatha DeDannan (Ireland) or the (E)Gypsies?

What links them all?

I will tell you more ............... later ...
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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What about posession by the holy solar spirit?
Ignorance and spritism do not play well together.
AC 8:25
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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"So what is your point?"

Simple. 3 points.

1) To warn people about the deceptions and traps presented by those who seek to enslave us to their Demons who parade as Angels.

2) To re-emphasize the warnings that have already been delivered by our ancestors.

3) To reassert the faith of One True God - with a very simple basis that the Sons of Cain/Osiris/Kali/DīAnu have sought to obscure with their secretive brotherhoods and twisting of history.
AC 8:25
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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"What about posession by the holy solar spirit?"

The Holy Spirit does not "possess". God gave us free will.

Only the cohorts of the Queen of Heaven seek to do that!
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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AC 8:25,

Can you please elaborate on how the brotherhood has twisted history.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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The Holy Spirit does not "possess". God gave us free will.

Yes, it is hard for a spirit to remain with one who resists.

There are many spirits. Why would the set-apart spirit respond to a solar name?
AC 8:25
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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AC 6:37

You and others may find some of the answers you seek to the historic distortions of the brotherhoods in this thread I have just restarted:

"The REAL story behind the New Age New World Order and who the Illuminati really are and who they serve"

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

I will be posting lots more information to that thread which will begin to delve into the origins of the "Illuminati", the origins they have been trying to obscure.

It will dwell on links between civilizations in Egypt, India, Sumeria, Scythia, Greece, the northern Celtic empires and more.

Attempts are being made to īromanticizeī some of these to bring back the "Old Order" which is what the New World Order is really all about. It is the "Old Order" of slavery to demons that Moses delivered Israel from out of Egypt.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Wrong. The "vehicle" is the brain, and the roads are neural pathways. Pseudo-New Age mumbo jumbo dressed up as religious rhetoric only serves to obscure a very simple, physiological process.
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Talk about glass houses!
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Kundalini and Demon Possession - What you THINK you know CAN hurt you!

Do not confuse spiritual with spiritist.
The Shakti is the same as Shekina, is the same as the Holy Spirit (where do you think the feminine principle went to in patriarchalised Christianity?)

The only ones in danger of demonic possession are those involved in trance mediumship (sometimes) and those involved in sadistic ritual magic (which is only a tiny percentage of those involved in ritual work).

The energy is real and it is your own - what do you think acupuncture accesses?
Black
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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When you do unlock your bodies energy (orgone blocks, chi, kundalini, etc) if done wrong you will experience some health side effects,

and to those who believe in that sort of thing, your entire belief structure may come back and appear as demon possession, etc at the time.

This is the same thing as st. augustine going off alone and having his terrifying visions.

Like Room 101 in the Book 1984. Where you go to get deprogrammed "Youīll Meet your fears! And Youīll Find they are Bigger than you ever Feared!"

One must unlock the body energy in a controlled fashion.

As for all the new age or īoccultī rituals. Thatīs all window dressing like one of the last posters said to get something done. Its technically unnecessary..and for those in those old boys "secret" society networks. Yeah. Like they have unlocked their bodies "armored" energy!..They can continue to kid themselves that they know any īsecretī knowledge. Just a bunch of wanna be magickal despots who happen to hold a lot of power and money.

Just cause you can afford or know the right people to join the country club, doesnīt mean you know how to play Golf for shit.


But the funny thing about that secret Knowledge is there is fail safe clause mixed in it all, that doesnīt allow "operator" to function at certain levels, unless "operator" already knows that itīs window dressing.
Irony
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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"What you donīt know CAN hurt you!"

Yes thatīs true but if you know what you are doing then you can prevent that.

Anyway.. I havenīt read the whole thing, but it sounds like an attempt at discrediting kundalini in an undermining way.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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I think you milked this for all it was worth the first round, get a life.
AC 8:25
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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For those who truly believe in the One Creator God and follow his path there is no question of twisting. Thus the matter of īglass housesī does not arise as you question.

All cases of twisting of the word of God within monotheistic religions and the twisting of history can be traced to "gnostic" infiltrators within those religions.

Be they Rosicrucians, Niceans, Monastic Monks, Templars, Mormons, etc within Christianity.

Be they Kabbalists, Sabatists, Saduccees and Pharisees, Chassidim, Lubavitcher, etc within the Hebrew.

Be they Sufi, Alevi or Shia within Islam.

Be they Magians, Manichaens, Mazdakians, etc within Zoroastrianism.

Remember gnosis=vedas=scientia=knowledge.

Their īknowledgeī as ever becomes deception as they seek to pursue the agenda of the Mistress of Lies and her consort. A simple agenda that seeks to subvert Godīs plan for humanity and forever lock humanity to this planet under eternal slavery to these Twins of Evil.
Irony
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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thatīs why I donīt have any religion. But kundalini is not reserved for one type religion either. It can be used for good.
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12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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"Blackī, you have a good point. God is an earthquake and when He decides itīs time to use the Holy Spirit to vanquish, purge, purify and refine your soul youīd better hold on to your hat because youīre in for quite a ride.

As they say in Asia as a curse . . ."May your kundalini rise and your karma clear all in one day!" Youīll understand the attempted īcursednessī of that statement if youīve ever undergone the precious purging of Godīs refining fire.

But wow, after the wheat has been separated from the chaff, and Heīs cleared all your garbage from your toes on up . . .your eyes will be brighter, youīll laugh from the depths of your being, but youīll weep from that same īwellī. Youīll feel anotherīs pain with God like compassion, and youīll celebrate their successes with His heightened level of joy. And His love? You wonīt believe where His love will take you or how deep a lake it is.

Everything is sweeter, life suddenly has meaning, and Godīs spirit is now a part of the madness you once viewed as mere existence.

Itīs worth the ride . . .
Anonymous Coward
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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And yet, youīve fallen for the biggest lie of all -- the "One True God" lie. Digging for information that only supports your own twisted worldview is not true study or even real knowledge. Lack of discernment is not gnosis.
AC 8:25
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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"But kundalini is not reserved for one type religion either"

Actually that is patent nonsense. I suggest you do some more research into the origins of the kundalini effect.

Kundalini is the rising of the serpent force of Kali, your serpent of Genesis.

Perhaps that doesnīt sound like a religion to you, sure does to me!

In other forms it is referred to as catharsis or epiphany. These are associated with worship of Dionysos and Dione. They involve the merging of man and God/Goddess.

Hmmmm. wonder who usually wins that contest ;)
Q
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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Very good, AC 8:25! You understand.
AC 8:25
12/08/2005 10:10 AM
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"Lack of discernment is not gnosis."

Neither is the gnosis of Gnostics knowledge. If they were a īproductī they would be banned for misrepresentation.

Lies and distortions spring readily to mind as much more apt definitions.
Q
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There are also Kundalini "awakening" programs that "help you" awaken this demon stream within. Foolish people....If they only knew what they were inviting into themselves..