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Like ya'll I've been watching the Obama diaries this week and was wondering something.

All of a sudden Obama is distancing himself from Jeremiah Wright and rejecting Louis Farrakhan's endorsement.

Wright hasnt said anything different in the past five days that he didnt say in the sound bites from a month ago. So why is Obama saying he is "shocked" now when nothing has changed in 20 years? Of course its the polls but why has Wright come out of the shadows and been on four days of speeches confirming every word that Obama tried to make people believe was "selected" sound bits taken out of context by the vast right wing conspiracy and the Hillary camp?

Is Wright just pissed at Obama for turning his back on him?

Why did Farrakhan endorse Obama?

Wright and Farrakhan created Obama.

I wrote before that Obama became a member of Wright's church for street cred that he needed because he came from Hawaii, was educated in Ivy league schools, was not poor by any measure, and was half white.

Without Faarakhan, Wright and the Chicago Black Church's support, Obama could never have been accepted as a Black politician and won a single election in Chicago.

He was molded, supported and created to be a "Black" Politician from the streets of Chicago. A product of Marxist Black Liberation Theology and someone, like his mentors Louis and Jeremiah, endorses and espouses the beliefs of the Black Panther party.

He was their boy. So what happened?

Was it because white people became aware for the first time in their lives that black churches are different than white churches other than just the race of the people who attend? They hear a phrase called Black Liberation Theology that no one had ever heard before and begin to ask questions and become fascinated with hearing every word Jeremiah has to say. The more they hear the lower Obama drops in the polls.

Did Obama, like any politician have to distance himself from his radical black fathers and become the half white guy who doesnt agree with what they say?

Is Wright and Farrakhan pissed and feeling used and betrayed by Obama? Did he use them to get to be a US Senator and now he is turning against them for his personal political gain? That looks to be the obvious answer...

Or is it something else more sinister than the obvious?

Think about this for a minute....

Could it be that if Obama is elected President of the United States it would destroy Farrakhan and Wright's message of Black Liberation and take away their power over the oppressed Black man?

Could it be that Obama is raising above the lie and is becoming a person who might be able to "heal" the racial divide in the country, forever putting aside the idea that a Black man, oppressed by whitie and can never achieve the Presidency because a majority white nation would never elect a black man. That whites and blacks can live together with the respect that each deserves.

The day a Black man is elected President, is the day that Wright and Farrakhan have to put aside their message of oppression and with that, they have to give up their power to the new leader of "Hope and Reconciliation". A message that is opposite of what they preach.

Obama might really be the good guy here.

Hell NO, I dont think he is good guy enough to support him over McCain and still think he is a friggen liberal who would be a disaster as President ~ but in this respect, I think he may be getting the shaft from his own guys and that is pretty damn sad.

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Hey everyone, the king sheepie has arrived!


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Throw em all underneath the bus! 5a
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it's funny, obama said, this
is not the same man that married me.

how far back did he have to reach
for that one; never mind he warmed
a pew all those years listening
to this same hatred.

numbers are everything, he's just
reacting to the polls.
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STOP THROWING PACMAN'S THREADS UNDERNEATH THE BUS AND RUNNING THEM OVER WITH LONE STARS! angryface
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Hey everyone, the king sheepie has arrived!


sheeplebah
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It's actually a very thoughtful thread, if ya retards would read it!
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It's actually a very thoughtful thread, if ya retards would read it!
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laugh
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Facades, charades and masquerades.

If you focus on the cups moved by the sleight of hand artist, it is easy for his assistants to pick your pockets.

I have uet to see anything posted by the Op that was anything other than a focus on matters that have anything to do with the reality behind the masks.

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Edit my last post.

I have yet to see anything posted by the OP that was anything other than a focus on matters that have nothing to do with the reality behind the masks.
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sheeplebah

It's actually a very thoughtful thread, if ya retards would read it!
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yes it is.
Thank you & Pac
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I think the critics just get scared when they see so many word thingies all on one page.
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Hey everyone, the king sheepie has arrived!


sheeplebah

It's actually a very thoughtful thread, if ya retards would read it!

yes it is.
Thank you & Pac
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Thanks.

I get slammed all the time for cut and paste and when I write something like this, I still get slammed.

lol
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Hey everyone, the king sheepie has arrived!


sheeplebah

It's actually a very thoughtful thread, if ya retards would read it!

yes it is.
Thank you & Pac
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The banksters control 99.9 percent of the candidates that get on the ballot. They or their associates control the vote count and the media. How can anything that you are talking about have anything to do with what matters?

Do you think that the possibility of a total economic collapse because of an approximate 700 trillion dollar derivatives debt is significant? If you don't, wait and see just how wrong you are.

I will stick by my predictions that events a lot more significant than the election of more money/power mongers will imposes themselves on this country long before election day.
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Edit my last post.

I have yet to see anything posted by the OP that was anything other than a focus on matters that have nothing to do with the reality behind the masks.
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And you are the expert on what is reality I take it?

Considering I have posted over 10,000 threads on every subject you can think of over the years, I would really like to know what you think reality is?

Its got to be pretty damn strange.

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Hey everyone, the king sheepie has arrived!


sheeplebah

It's actually a very thoughtful thread, if ya retards would read it!

yes it is.
Thank you & Pac



Thanks.

I get slammed all the time for cut and paste and when I write something like this, I still get slammed.

lol
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Your approval rating here is about the same as Bush's. Floating around the 25% range.

Good for you.

laugh

bushtard
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I talk about the reality of truth, not diversion.

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Bank of America, Bear Stearns, Deutsche Bank, UBS and Wachovia also have staff being investigated in the probe.

Spokesmen for JP Morgan, Deutsche Bank, UBS and Wachovia declined to comment beyond acknowledging the investigation in filings with the US Securities and Exchange Commission.

In January, Bank of America agreed to cooperate with the probe, but in February the SEC revealed the bank could still face enforcement action from the regulator.
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I talk about the reality of truth, not diversion.

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Maybe you should start your own thread, rather than trolling this one?
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Hey everyone, the king sheepie has arrived!


sheeplebah

It's actually a very thoughtful thread, if ya retards would read it!

yes it is.
Thank you & Pac


The banksters control 99.9 percent of the candidates that get on the ballot. They or their associates control the vote count and the media. How can anything that you are talking about have anything to do with what matters?

Do you think that the possibility of a total economic collapse because of an approximate 700 trillion dollar derivatives debt is significant? If you don't, wait and see just how wrong you are.

I will stick by my predictions that events a lot more significant than the election of more money/power mongers will imposes themselves on this country long before election day.
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For Real! Yet some like to watch the sideshows!

..
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I talk about the reality of truth, not diversion.


Maybe you should start your own thread, rather than trolling this one?
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Why? Does showing that this thread is totally irrelevant to the reality of the money behind the masks bother you? Are you too unconscious to recognize the significance of this?

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There is a new report from the Comptroller of the Currency titled "OCC's Quarterly Report on Bank Trading and Derivative Activities, Fourth Quarter 2007", which shows that total bank holdings of derivatives is estimated to be "only" $164.2 trillion, whereas I seem to remember that the global glut of derivatives is upward of $700 trillion, which are both numbers so big that I cannot even begin to comprehend the enormity of them.

The report shows that the notional value of derivatives held by U.S. commercial banks has suddenly plunged by a whopping $8 trillion, which is (unbelievably) still only 5% of the total, and which merely takes the total down to the aforementioned-yet-still-staggering $164.2 trillion.

When I realized that $8 trillion is more than half of America's GDP, that is when I realized that "Houston, we seem to have a problem, as we are on fire, and we are tumbling out of control into the sun where we will soon be fried to a cinder."

And let's not forget that even this baleful news is the best that the banks can come up with, as the whole report is based on banks volunteering to tell stories about themselves, which is unbelievably the same as with, according to an article in the Financial Times, Libor rates, which are the agreed-upon interest rates that London bankers agree to charge on short term loans to each other.

The upshot of asking lying, greedy bankers (the villains of history) to tell the truth and let everyone know what disreputable, untrustworthy scum they are has now proved to be an unreliable system of self-regulation, and thus the Libor rate may be understated because the rate is based on self-reports of people who are bankers, which means that they are lying scumbags who falsely report that their short-term borrowing costs are lower than they are, because they know it looks bad that they are getting charged a high interest rate, which proves that the people who are loaning the money to them know what kind of lying, scumbag bankers (as redundant as that is) they are.

But it is these self-reports, like the American O.C.C reports, that are the backbone of the Libor rate, which affects lots and lots and lots of other rates.

By how much is the Libor lending rate understated? Maybe as much as 0.3%, which doesn't sound like that much, but when you are talking about trillions and trillions of pounds and euros of debt, it adds up to a lot of money! Now you see why they are so interested in lying!

And the last thing we need is higher interest rates, as Bloomberg.com reports that "U.S. corporate bankruptcies are accelerating as the economic slowdown compounds the end of easy credit", which is being made manifest by noting that a Merrill Lynch index showed that "The amount of distressed corporate bonds jumped to $206 billion April 11 from $4.4 billion in March 2007." Wow! What's that, an increase of 5,000% or something?

And another scary Bloomberg item was that loans are becoming harder to get, regardless of the interest rates, and "Banks worldwide are demanding 60% more in collateral from investors such as hedge funds to cut the risk of derivative trades going bad, the International Swaps and Derivatives Association said."

And another horror is that the stock market went up, which is Pretty Freaking Strange (PFS) since Barron's reports that the earnings of the Dow Jones Industrials went down, dropping to $225.53 from $234.49. This has produced the unbelievable price-to-earnings ratio of 57! Earnings are going down, but the stocks are going up! To a P/E of 57! Un-freaking-believable!

And not only that, but DJ Transportation index saw its earning drop, too, to $218.60 from $230.91, taking this index's P/E to 23!

And while the venerable S&P500 has not yet shown any more deterioration in its earnings, the fact that the market went up made the P/E of this index go to a lofty 21! All of this in the face of deterioratingconditions and economic collapse! This is beyond incredible!

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I talk about the reality of truth, not diversion.


Maybe you should start your own thread, rather than trolling this one?
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He piggy back posts on my threads because no one will read his idiotic bull shit nonsense if he starts his own thread.
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Reverend Wright:

“Our congregation has sent dozens of boys and girls to fight in the Vietnam War, the first Gulf War, and the present two wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. My goddaughter’s unit just arrived in Iraq this week, while those who call me unpatriotic have used their positions of privilege to avoid military service, while sending over 4,000 American boys and girls of every race to die over a lie.” (Standing ovation)

NOW WHO do u think is behind the Rev story?
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I talk about the reality of truth, not diversion.


Maybe you should start your own thread, rather than trolling this one?


He piggy back posts on my threads because no one will read his idiotic bull shit nonsense if he starts his own thread.
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Whatever! you tard
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Like ya'll I've been watching the Obama diaries this week and was wondering something.

All of a sudden Obama is distancing himself from Jeremiah Wright and rejecting Louis Farrakhan's endorsement.

Wright hasnt said anything different in the past five days that he didnt say in the sound bites from a month ago. So why is Obama saying he is "shocked" now when nothing has changed in 20 years? Of course its the polls but why has Wright come out of the shadows and been on four days of speeches confirming every word that Obama tried to make people believe was "selected" sound bits taken out of context by the vast right wing conspiracy and the Hillary camp?

Is Wright just pissed at Obama for turning his back on him?

Why did Farrakhan endorse Obama?

Wright and Farrakhan created Obama.

I wrote before that Obama became a member of Wright's church for street cred that he needed because he came from Hawaii, was educated in Ivy league schools, was not poor by any measure, and was half white.

Without Faarakhan, Wright and the Chicago Black Church's support, Obama could never have been accepted as a Black politician and won a single election in Chicago.

He was molded, supported and created to be a "Black" Politician from the streets of Chicago. A product of Marxist Black Liberation Theology and someone, like his mentors Louis and Jeremiah, endorses and espouses the beliefs of the Black Panther party.

He was their boy. So what happened?

Was it because white people became aware for the first time in their lives that black churches are different than white churches other than just the race of the people who attend? They hear a phrase called Black Liberation Theology that no one had ever heard before and begin to ask questions and become fascinated with hearing every word Jeremiah has to say. The more they hear the lower Obama drops in the polls.

Did Obama, like any politician have to distance himself from his radical black fathers and become the half white guy who doesnt agree with what they say?

Is Wright and Farrakhan pissed and feeling used and betrayed by Obama? Did he use them to get to be a US Senator and now he is turning against them for his personal political gain? That looks to be the obvious answer...

Or is it something else more sinister than the obvious?

Think about this for a minute....

Could it be that if Obama is elected President of the United States it would destroy Farrakhan and Wright's message of Black Liberation and take away their power over the oppressed Black man?

Could it be that Obama is raising above the lie and is becoming a person who might be able to "heal" the racial divide in the country, forever putting aside the idea that a Black man, oppressed by whitie and can never achieve the Presidency because a majority white nation would never elect a black man. That whites and blacks can live together with the respect that each deserves.

The day a Black man is elected President, is the day that Wright and Farrakhan have to put aside their message of oppression and with that, they have to give up their power to the new leader of "Hope and Reconciliation". A message that is opposite of what they preach.

Obama might really be the good guy here.

Hell NO, I dont think he is good guy enough to support him over McCain and still think he is a friggen liberal who would be a disaster as President ~ but in this respect, I think he may be getting the shaft from his own guys and that is pretty damn sad.

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There was a lot of insight in this post I would consider the possibility that Obama was indeed trying to distance himself from both ,Rev. Wright and Farrakhan and his ties to the dubious black Panthars organization.
Obamas message of " Hope and Reconciliation " is nothing more than an attempt to garner votes by calming the fears created by the rather incindary racial comments of Wright and Farrakhan too and about whites.
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its over for Hilary and McCain. Obama can get caught humping a camel (make or female) at the al-kyder training camp and he will beat them.

Nobody wants same old, same old other then the old and dimwitted.
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its over for Hilary and McCain. Obama can get caught humping a camel (make or female) at the al-kyder training camp and he will beat them.

Nobody wants same old, same old other then the old and dimwitted.
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No person even half as liberal as Obama has ever won the general election.

He might be popular with democrats but they only represent about a third of the total vote.

Republicans and Independents make up the rest. The majority of Independents are moderates.

Obama appeals to the exact same base as McGovern appealed to with the same poll numbers going into November...But he lost by the 2nd largest landslide in US history to Nixon.

Getting academics, hollwood libs, minorities and antiwar types isnt going to cut it.

He needs moderates and conservatives to win.

Also, the polls show that 20% of Hillary voters will vote for McCain if she loses. That means that McCain gets 10% of all Dems if she loses the nomination.

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PACNWguy is a white nigger.
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I agree with the post PAC but you're still an idiot for supporting the illegal invader amnesty supporting traitor McCain. I actually think it would be better for America if Obama were president because his traitorous policies would be apparent to white America. McCains are more subtle and acceptable because he is a white war hero.
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Looks like Huckabee agrees with me. Look at this...

I said it first.

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Huckabee: Wright Needs Obama to Lose

BILLINGS – Former Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee said Wednesday that Barack Obama's former pastor needs the Illinois senator to lose his bid for the White House to justify the pastor's own radical views on race.

Obama, a Democrat, has struggled in recent weeks to distance himself from repeated incendiary comments made by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright. Some have questioned why Wright is continuing to speak out and possibly hurt Obama's chance at becoming the first black president of the United States.

"Jeremiah Wright needs for Obama to lose so he can justify his anger, his hostile bitterness against the United States of America," Huckabee told reporters following a fundraiser for Montana gubernatorial candidate Roy Brown.

"If it's not true that a man, because of his color, is held back and can't be president, then so much of what Jeremiah Wright has said is invalid," Huckabee said.

Wright has claimed AIDS was created by the government to kill "people of color" and that the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were spurred by the United States' "terrorism" against minorities at home and abroad.

Huckabee, an ordained Baptist minister and former Arkansas governor, dropped out of the presidential race in March. He called Wright's comments "absurd" and said the pastor "represents a form of demagoguery that I find just utterly indefensible."

"His (Obama's) campaign is not being derailed by his race, it's being derailed by a person who doesn't want him to prove that we have made great advances in this country," Huckabee said.

On Tuesday, Obama denounced Wright's comments as "giving comfort to those who prey on hate" and said his relationship with the former pastor, who officiated Obama's wedding and baptized his two daughters, had been damaged to the point that it would never be the same.
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I think the critics just get scared when they see so many word thingies all on one page.
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lol Now that was pretty funny, yet painfully true...

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PACNWguy,

Your goal in here is to defend the republican candidates (minus Ron Paul) and attack the democratic ones, isnt it?





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