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Lethal autonomous weapon systems (LAWS) are a special class of weapon systems that use sensor suites and computer algorithms to independently identify a target and employ an onboard weapon system to engage and destroy the target without manual human control of the system. Although these systems are not yet in widespread development, it is believed they would enable military operations in communications-degraded or -denied environments in which traditional systems may not be able to operate.

Contrary to a number of news reports, U.S. policy does not prohibit the development or employment of LAWS. Although the United States does not currently have LAWS in its inventory, some senior military and defense leaders have stated that the United States may be compelled to develop LAWS in the future if U.S. competitors choose to do so. At the same time, a growing number of states and nongovernmental organizations are appealing to the international community for regulation of or a ban on LAWS due to ethical concerns.

Developments in both autonomous weapons technology and international discussions of LAWS could hold implications for congressional oversight, defense investments, military concepts of operations, treaty-making, and the future of war.

U.S. Policy

Then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter issued DOD’s policy on autonomy in weapons systems, Department of Defense Directive (DODD) 3000.09 (the directive), in November 2012. DOD has since updated the directive—most recently in January 2023.

Definitions. There is no agreed definition of lethal autonomous weapon systems that is used in international fora. However, DODD 3000.09 provides definitions for different categories of autonomous weapon systems for the purposes of the U.S. military. These definitions are principally grounded in the role of the human operator with regard to target selection and engagement decisions, rather than in the technological sophistication of the weapon system.




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The future maritime fight, as Navy officials see it, will involve military forces with a mix of manned and unmanned aircraft, ships and other systems. Some actions will one day involve solely uncrewed platforms.

The U.S. Pacific Fleet is testing “fleet-centric” concepts and capabilities with a keen eye on unmanned systems to figure out how would the fleet connect, command and control disparate uncrewed systems that are operated remotely, semi or fully autonomously.

Integrated Battle Problem 23.1, which ran earlier this month off San Clemente Island and San Diego, Calif., focused on “long-range fire above and below sea, surveillance and reconnaissance, command and control, and re-constituting intelligence,” according to U.S. 3rd Fleet, which conducted the exercise. The Pacific Fleet joined Naval Air Forces, Naval Submarine Forces and Naval Special Warfare Command “to evaluate unmanned systems and highlight areas for improvement, providing that feedback to unmanned systems programs.”

The multidomain exercise is the second iteration of an experiment first held in 2021. During the Unmanned Integrated Battle Problem 21, Zumwalt-class destroyer USS Michael Monsoor (DDG-1001) provided a base for operations with unmanned surface vessels, underwater vehicles and aerial drones during experimentation with manned and unmanned systems.

But for IBP 23.1, officials wanted to test and operate unmanned systems together and figure out how unmanned systems fit into the bigger warfighting picture.

Among the experiments was launching an aerial drone off an unmanned ship. For that test, a VBAT unmanned aerial vehicle was launched from Sea Hawk, a medium USV belonging to Unmanned Surface Vessel Division 1 in San Diego.




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How long will it take for the AI system to figure
out that the politicians and generals are a much
larger threat than the peasants are?
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How long will it take for the AI system to figure
out that the politicians and generals are a much
larger threat than the peasants are?
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based on what
newspaper articles?
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Everything going on makes sense if they have already taken out the human factor and turned it over to AI for their decisions.
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How long will it take for the AI system to figure
out that the politicians and generals are a much
larger threat than the peasants are?
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i understand, but you're forgetting who is the exact folks who are programming this. it ain't the peasants!!!
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They are bringing this out because they expect when they go fascist on everyone, they can’t count on all their goon squads to remain loyal when putting families into FEMA camps

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Communism shall never prevail.

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They are bringing this out because they expect when they go fascist on everyone, they can’t count on their goon squads to remain loyal when putting families into FEMA camps
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The good part is that this is a win/ win. Nothing bad could possibly come from turning life or death decisions into the hands of glorified toaster ovens. Slap some guns on those robots. We all knew this was coming.

It worked out well in Black Mirror. What’s the problem?
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Autonomous Nerf Turret.

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

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hey, a pin! thanks so much, GLP!!


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WE CAN HACK THEM AND USE THEM ON THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CONVOYS
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How long will it take for the AI system to figure
out that the politicians and generals are a much
larger threat than the peasants are?
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Everyone will be fair game.
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WE CAN HACK THEM AND USE THEM ON THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT CONVOYS
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Or the District of Communists.
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How long will it take for the AI system to figure
out that the politicians and generals are a much
larger threat than the peasants are?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2226485


Everyone will be fair game.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85211490


This, likely AI will see all humans as a threat, reasoning all humans are corruptable with power, and by eliminating those in power will mean peasants will turn into greedy assholes in power later therefor it’s more logical to just eradicate all humans
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Everything going on makes sense if they have already taken out the human factor and turned it over to AI for their decisions.
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They have. They blamed the Covid fiasco on a super computer. “Just following orders”
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How long will it take for the AI system to figure
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larger threat than the peasants are?
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based on what
newspaper articles?
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What if the AI got plugged into GLP and got a couple of upgrades? That would get their "minds" right!
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QUOTE:

Lethal autonomous weapon systems (LAWS) are a special class of weapon systems that use sensor suites and computer algorithms to independently identify a target and employ an onboard weapon system to engage and destroy the target without manual human control of the system. Although these systems are not yet in widespread development, it is believed they would enable military operations in communications-degraded or -denied environments in which traditional systems may not be able to operate.

Contrary to a number of news reports, U.S. policy does not prohibit the development or employment of LAWS. Although the United States does not currently have LAWS in its inventory, some senior military and defense leaders have stated that the United States may be compelled to develop LAWS in the future if U.S. competitors choose to do so. At the same time, a growing number of states and nongovernmental organizations are appealing to the international community for regulation of or a ban on LAWS due to ethical concerns.

Developments in both autonomous weapons technology and international discussions of LAWS could hold implications for congressional oversight, defense investments, military concepts of operations, treaty-making, and the future of war.

U.S. Policy

Then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter issued DOD’s policy on autonomy in weapons systems, Department of Defense Directive (DODD) 3000.09 (the directive), in November 2012. DOD has since updated the directive—most recently in January 2023.

Definitions. There is no agreed definition of lethal autonomous weapon systems that is used in international fora. However, DODD 3000.09 provides definitions for different categories of autonomous weapon systems for the purposes of the U.S. military. These definitions are principally grounded in the role of the human operator with regard to target selection and engagement decisions, rather than in the technological sophistication of the weapon system.




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You Americans do love your acronyms, don't you?
LAWS: For all of your unlawful business...


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QUOTE:

Lethal autonomous weapon systems (LAWS) are a special class of weapon systems that use sensor suites and computer algorithms to independently identify a target and employ an onboard weapon system to engage and destroy the target without manual human control of the system. Although these systems are not yet in widespread development, it is believed they would enable military operations in communications-degraded or -denied environments in which traditional systems may not be able to operate.

Contrary to a number of news reports, U.S. policy does not prohibit the development or employment of LAWS. Although the United States does not currently have LAWS in its inventory, some senior military and defense leaders have stated that the United States may be compelled to develop LAWS in the future if U.S. competitors choose to do so. At the same time, a growing number of states and nongovernmental organizations are appealing to the international community for regulation of or a ban on LAWS due to ethical concerns.

Developments in both autonomous weapons technology and international discussions of LAWS could hold implications for congressional oversight, defense investments, military concepts of operations, treaty-making, and the future of war.

U.S. Policy

Then-Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter issued DOD’s policy on autonomy in weapons systems, Department of Defense Directive (DODD) 3000.09 (the directive), in November 2012. DOD has since updated the directive—most recently in January 2023.

Definitions. There is no agreed definition of lethal autonomous weapon systems that is used in international fora. However, DODD 3000.09 provides definitions for different categories of autonomous weapon systems for the purposes of the U.S. military. These definitions are principally grounded in the role of the human operator with regard to target selection and engagement decisions, rather than in the technological sophistication of the weapon system.




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 Quoting: Digital mix guy Spock




Now that we know problem-reaction-solution we can extrapolate that the US will help one of their adversaries to develop the weapon then point at them and say "See!? They have it so we must develop it."

Kind of like they did with Iraq and WMD's.














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Technology exists to take these things out. That too, will improve with time.
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