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Biden said Zelensky gave him 'flat assurance' that F-16 fighter jets would not take Ukraine war to Russian soil
President Joe Biden divulged part of his conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at his press conference in Hiroshima Sunday night

The president said he got 'flat assurance' from Zelensky that the F-16 fighter jets that the U.S. approved would not 'move into Russia geographic territory'

Zelensky said he was confident that he was getting the jets, but couldn't tell journalists how many were expected


President Joe Biden said on Sunday he got personal assurance from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that the F-16s that America approved for use in the war would not be used in Russia itself.

Biden had been reluctant to approve the delivery of the military fighter planes to Ukraine via European countries. Because the F-16s have sensitive spy technology, America must approve any third-party sale.

But, under pressure from European allies who want to see Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine to end, he approved the transfer.

'I have a flat assurance from Zelensky that they will not, they will not use it to go on and move into Russia geographic territory but wherever Russian troops are in Ukraine in the area, they would be able to do that,' Biden said at a press conference at the end of the G7 summit.

He also said he didn't expect the F-16s to take part in the Spring counter offensive that Zelensky has planned because of the time it would take to train Ukrainians to use the advanced military jets. American personnel will do the training.

Zelensky said at a Sunday night press conference that he was confident Ukraine was getting the jets - even though some details haven't been worked out yet - but couldn't give a number.


'I cannot tell you how many,' he said.

'Russia will feel when we have a counteroffensive,' Zelensky also offered.

Zelensky traveled to Hiroshoma to meet with the leaders of the world's biggest democracies to make his case for military and diplomatic aid for his plans to push out Putin's forces.

But the Ukrainian president caused a kerfuffle when he appeared to indicate that Russian mercenary forces captured the city of Bakhmut, only for his government to walk it back.



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Re: Biden said Zelensky gave him 'flat assurance' that F-16 fighter jets would not take Ukraine war to Russian soil
Some of the shit that come flying off of those 16's just might accidently on purpose go there though. chuckle
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WE ALL R ON FIRE! UH.
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WE ALL R ON FIRE! UH.
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Re: Biden said Zelensky gave him 'flat assurance' that F-16 fighter jets would not take Ukraine war to Russian soil
If you can’t trust a liar, who can you trust?

Certainly neither of these liars.
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Time will tell.
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Time will tell.
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Re: Biden said Zelensky gave him 'flat assurance' that F-16 fighter jets would not take Ukraine war to Russian soil
I bet the little coke whore had his fingers crossed the whole time
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Ukrainian IS Russian soil.
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this little fruit loop always gets what he wants?

Zelenski is a man with powerful friends.
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Time will tell.
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Re: Biden said Zelensky gave him 'flat assurance' that F-16 fighter jets would not take Ukraine war to Russian soil
As if their "assurances" are worth anything!

Once upon a time, the US gave Russia its "assurance" that NATO wouldn't expand "even one inch" beyond the borders of Germany.

Grab a map and look at where NATO alrady was just before the Russian intervention in Ukraine.
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Is this freeloading Zelensky asshole going to be paying for these jets? Oh wait.
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Child sacrifice to moloch is how they get power
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As if their "assurances" are worth anything!

Once upon a time, the US gave Russia its "assurance" that NATO wouldn't expand "even one inch" beyond the borders of Germany.

Grab a map and look at where NATO alrady was just before the Russian intervention in Ukraine.
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How Gorbachev was misled over assurances against NATO expansion

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This one is on the NSA Archive, you will have to search, GLP won't let me post the link.
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Child sacrifice to moloch is how they get power
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Nah. Their power comes from the sleep and ignorance of the masses.
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Re: Biden said Zelensky gave him 'flat assurance' that F-16 fighter jets would not take Ukraine war to Russian soil
If you can’t trust a liar, who can you trust?

Certainly neither of these liars.
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That's where the communism and uniparty models especially fail, from Soviets to sadly modern America.

Once a government is absolute, it is doomed to fail.

Once every G-man, spook and bureaucrat follows uniparty orders blindly and unquestioningly in an absolutist government it will fail over time.

The bigger the absolutist government that denies any and all reality, the harder will be the fall.

Just have to look to ancient Rome to see how out of touch the Roman government became.

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If anyone believes this they are mentally retarded
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Re: Biden said Zelensky gave him 'flat assurance' that F-16 fighter jets would not take Ukraine war to Russian soil
So Ukraine is going to have rookies and trainees who've never flown F-16s before, going against the Russian military. And expecting victory.

And when they all get shot out of the sky, there's going to be so much outrage that the United States Air Force is going to have to fly into Ukraine themselves, to try to finish the job.

The rookies and trainees are tools and pawns, being set up to be killed. So that the USA will have an excuse to escalate the war.

Biden, how many peace negotiators have you sent, to try to de-escalate this situation?
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Unless they got a truck full of Tom Cruise's not sure its going to mater much.
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So Ukraine is going to have rookies and trainees who've never flown F-16s before, going against the Russian military. And expecting victory.

And when they all get shot out of the sky, there's going to be so much outrage that the United States Air Force is going to have to fly into Ukraine themselves, to try to finish the job.

The rookies and trainees are tools and pawns, being set up to be killed. So that the USA will have an excuse to escalate the war.

Biden, how many peace negotiators have you sent, to try to de-escalate this situation?
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The situation was being de-escalated in March 2022, when the Russians and the Ukrainians were negotiating in Turkey, and close to an agreement. Then, the UK popped in and aborted the negotiations. One of the Ukrainian negotiators was "coincidentally" murdered and the thing came to nothing. For the West, war had to go on because they had the publicly confessed goal of "weakening Russia".

And here we are today.
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President Joe Biden divulged part of his conversation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky at his press conference in Hiroshima Sunday night

The president said he got 'flat assurance' from Zelensky that the F-16 fighter jets that the U.S. approved would not 'move into Russia geographic territory'

Zelensky said he was confident that he was getting the jets, but couldn't tell journalists how many were expected


President Joe Biden said on Sunday he got personal assurance from Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky that the F-16s that America approved for use in the war would not be used in Russia itself.

Biden had been reluctant to approve the delivery of the military fighter planes to Ukraine via European countries. Because the F-16s have sensitive spy technology, America must approve any third-party sale.

But, under pressure from European allies who want to see Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine to end, he approved the transfer.

'I have a flat assurance from Zelensky that they will not, they will not use it to go on and move into Russia geographic territory but wherever Russian troops are in Ukraine in the area, they would be able to do that,' Biden said at a press conference at the end of the G7 summit.

He also said he didn't expect the F-16s to take part in the Spring counter offensive that Zelensky has planned because of the time it would take to train Ukrainians to use the advanced military jets. American personnel will do the training.

Zelensky said at a Sunday night press conference that he was confident Ukraine was getting the jets - even though some details haven't been worked out yet - but couldn't give a number.


'I cannot tell you how many,' he said.

'Russia will feel when we have a counteroffensive,' Zelensky also offered.

Zelensky traveled to Hiroshoma to meet with the leaders of the world's biggest democracies to make his case for military and diplomatic aid for his plans to push out Putin's forces.

But the Ukrainian president caused a kerfuffle when he appeared to indicate that Russian mercenary forces captured the city of Bakhmut, only for his government to walk it back.



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what is it they say , alls fair in love AND WAR..


I believe the coked up little midget dont you ???!!!

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Your mind cannot understand what is really going on.
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We Polish people, thanks to the British people and the Americans for poisoning our children with the nuclear weapons destroyed by the Russians. They will probably have agonizing cancer for many years due to the poison you brought to Europe.
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So Ukraine is going to have rookies and trainees who've never flown F-16s before, going against the Russian military. And expecting victory.

And when they all get shot out of the sky, there's going to be so much outrage that the United States Air Force is going to have to fly into Ukraine themselves, to try to finish the job.

The rookies and trainees are tools and pawns, being set up to be killed. So that the USA will have an excuse to escalate the war.

Biden, how many peace negotiators have you sent, to try to de-escalate this situation?
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They've already been training in the US for many months.
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Ballistic Missiles are a product of Russian. America WHISHES THEY HAD THEM.
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At first it was no tanks, then tanks then no planes, now planes. When do they get newks? As soon as pedodemon gets his 10%?
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Sure the puppets gonna say whatever the master says, Duh.
But is this disinfo or did the masters really want us to hear that? Maybe the masters have a different plan, are they throwing them under the bus? They both will/and can be replaced easy...
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Re: Biden said Zelensky gave him 'flat assurance' that F-16 fighter jets would not take Ukraine war to Russian soil
So Ukraine is going to have rookies and trainees who've never flown F-16s before, going against the Russian military. And expecting victory.

And when they all get shot out of the sky, there's going to be so much outrage that the United States Air Force is going to have to fly into Ukraine themselves, to try to finish the job.

The rookies and trainees are tools and pawns, being set up to be killed. So that the USA will have an excuse to escalate the war.

Biden, how many peace negotiators have you sent, to try to de-escalate this situation?
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They've already been training in the US for many months.
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2 of them.
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Biden.. the 7th head of the Revalation beast.. Paving the way for the (8th) the anti Christ... who-- he will unite the entire world to use earthly military might to defeat the 2nd coming of Christ -- from the sky.. F16's will be used in that too BTW.. Elijah laughs at them all!
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F16s won't last long in shithole ukieland

Hopefully dead US pilots





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