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Seek^ User ID: 84855065 United States 06/03/2023 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do I? The key is actually reading Jesus' words yourself and the Bible in general so that you may understand, not new-age books that lead one to hell. You will know them by their fruits. Hell is being disconnected from the Eternal One, the source of love, mercy, compassion and forgiveness. Quoting: Mystical Mists After one transitions, they will find themselves land wherever their consciousness takes them. And for those who have no connection to the Eternal One, that won't likely be a pretty place. I believe it will be in the lower 4D astral realm, which is a pretty scary place. It might include fire for some, it might contain monsters for others. Depends on their beliefs. It becomes comical to me, except it's not funny that you (generally) say that anything that doesn't match where you are in your understanding of scriptures is new age or deceived, when in fact the bible is written in a fashion as to have multiple layers of meaning. Even the OT writers understood the 4 levels of the meanings of understanding the writers. But when we apply it further into the NT, if it wasn't taught by your pastor, then it MUST be new age. Sad, really. No, I say new age because of your obvious new age rhetoric and your false interpretation of hell that doesn't line up with God's Word. You make a false and baseless statement that I deny Jesus Christ's words and I responded. If I had to guess, you said I deny Jesus Christ and His Word because you yourself haven't read it with any sincerity and therefore do not understand it. What I stated was Biblically sound. As for myself, I haven't been to church in a very, very long time and have never had a pastor. I don't align with religion nor do I have a denomination. It's called a relationship that God and He seeks and desires a relationship from each and every one of us. There is only one way to Heaven and to eternal life, you need to get on that road. |
Seek^ User ID: 84855065 United States 06/03/2023 07:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already answered it on the first page. This question is what those who hate the truth do not understand. No one is good, not a single person walking this earth in the eyes of God. Quoting: Seek^ As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none understanding; there is none seeking after God. Romans 3:11 They have all turned aside; together they have become corrupt; there is none who does good, not even one. Psalm 14:3 This is why we all need Jesus Christ and to put our trust in Him because of what He did for us. When one does this truly with all of their heart, they are not made ok or better, they are made perfect in the eyes of God as Christ's righteousness is imputed onto them. This is how a sinner can be made perfect in the eyes of God, through Jesus Christ alone. Those who hate the truth will never understand this because they do not seek God but rely on their own vain understanding. |
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Seek^ User ID: 84855065 United States 06/03/2023 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The concept of "hell" didn't exist in the old teachings. Quoting: Miz Dirck de Noorman It was introduced by Zoroastrianism, where it was witnessed as an effective means of control over its followers. It didn't exist then, and it doesn't exist now. Correct Jesus must be a liar then. |
Confederate Soldier User ID: 37150915 United States 06/03/2023 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John14:6 Quoting: HeartSutra The way to Heaven is only through Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ alone. ---------------------------- NOW TRY IT SPIN IT. There are none who are good. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. If the person does not believe in Jesus, they will go to hell. Don't forget there were billions of people Who never had a chance to learn about jesus. Will they go to hell? They will be judged. They will serve their sentence. Then, through Christ, they will be reunited with the Father. There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
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Mystical Mists User ID: 84260249 Greece 06/03/2023 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do I? The key is actually reading Jesus' words yourself and the Bible in general so that you may understand, not new-age books that lead one to hell. You will know them by their fruits. Hell is being disconnected from the Eternal One, the source of love, mercy, compassion and forgiveness. Quoting: Mystical Mists After one transitions, they will find themselves land wherever their consciousness takes them. And for those who have no connection to the Eternal One, that won't likely be a pretty place. I believe it will be in the lower 4D astral realm, which is a pretty scary place. It might include fire for some, it might contain monsters for others. Depends on their beliefs. It becomes comical to me, except it's not funny that you (generally) say that anything that doesn't match where you are in your understanding of scriptures is new age or deceived, when in fact the bible is written in a fashion as to have multiple layers of meaning. Even the OT writers understood the 4 levels of the meanings of understanding the writers. But when we apply it further into the NT, if it wasn't taught by your pastor, then it MUST be new age. Sad, really. No, I say new age because of your obvious new age rhetoric and your false interpretation of hell that doesn't line up with God's Word. You make a false and baseless statement that I deny Jesus Christ's words and I responded. If I had to guess, you said I deny Jesus Christ and His Word because you yourself haven't read it with any sincerity and therefore do not understand it. What I stated was Biblically sound. As for myself, I haven't been to church in a very, very long time and have never had a pastor. I don't align with religion nor do I have a denomination. It's called a relationship that God and He seeks and desires a relationship from each and every one of us. There is only one way to Heaven and to eternal life, you need to get on that road. And again, the scriptures can be understood on multiple levels. Why else did Paul distinguish between milk drinkers and meat eaters? The milk drinker cannot digest the meat! I guess meat eaters are new age. Love your Creator and love others, before self-preservation. |
Confederate Soldier User ID: 37150915 United States 06/03/2023 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The concept of "hell" didn't exist in the old teachings. Quoting: Miz Dirck de Noorman It was introduced by Zoroastrianism, where it was witnessed as an effective means of control over its followers. It didn't exist then, and it doesn't exist now. Correct Jesus must be a liar then. Jesus said that, if you do not repent and have faith in the Son,you will be judged, you will serve your just punishment for your transgressions, then you will be with the Father through the Son. There's a man in a white house with blood on his mouth! If there's Knaves in the North, there are braves in the South. We are three thousand horses, and not one afraid; We are three thousand sabres and not a dull blade. :78g: |
Mystical Mists User ID: 84260249 Greece 06/03/2023 07:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I already answered it on the first page. This question is what those who hate the truth do not understand. No one is good, not a single person walking this earth in the eyes of God. Quoting: Seek^ As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: there is none understanding; there is none seeking after God. Romans 3:11 They have all turned aside; together they have become corrupt; there is none who does good, not even one. Psalm 14:3 This is why we all need Jesus Christ and to put our trust in Him because of what He did for us. When one does this truly with all of their heart, they are not made ok or better, they are made perfect in the eyes of God as Christ's righteousness is imputed onto them. This is how a sinner can be made perfect in the eyes of God, through Jesus Christ alone. Those who hate the truth will never understand this because they do not seek God but rely on their own vain understanding. We all need to follow HIS Way..... Very few even know his words, much less understand them. The Way is narrow, the Way is the gate. Love your Creator and love others, before self-preservation. |
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Base12 User ID: 85689933 United States 06/03/2023 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is never an issue for those that actually know what Hell is... Wake up Christians. Read your Bible. Quit letting others 'tell' you what is written. Visit my website... [link to www.mostholyplace.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78570644 United States 06/03/2023 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I will let Jesus answer! True and False Disciples 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’ Matthew 7 Hmmm - these EVIL PEOPLE thought they were serving Jesus! Apparently they were NOT DOING THE WILL OF THE FATHER ! My mileage nor Your mileage will vary UNLESS WE DO THE WILL OF THE FATHER. |
Seek^ User ID: 84855065 United States 06/03/2023 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The concept of "hell" didn't exist in the old teachings. Quoting: Miz Dirck de Noorman It was introduced by Zoroastrianism, where it was witnessed as an effective means of control over its followers. It didn't exist then, and it doesn't exist now. Correct Jesus must be a liar then. Jesus said that, if you do not repent and have faith in the Son,you will be judged, you will serve your just punishment for your transgressions, then you will be with the Father through the Son. No friend, He did not. Jesus warned more about hell and the dangers of how one arrives there than any other subject. He spent 1/3 of His ministry casting demons out of people. There is only one judgment for those who die without the covering of Jesus Christ and His blood. The punishment for dying without Jesus is hell where you will remain until the Great White Throne Judgment which occurs at the end of Christ's millennial reign where unbelievers will be resurrected, judged, and thrown into the Lake of fire with the devil and the fallen angels. There is no punishment and reuniting with God. This is why it's imperative above all else that you seek Jesus Christ with every fiber in your being while you still have breath in your lungs because none of us are promised tomorrow and if you die apart from Jesus, you will be eternally lost. There are no second chances when your soul leaves your body for good. You either go up and are in the Lord's presence upon death or you go down to hell where you will wait until your final judgment at the Great White Throne Judgment. Hell is a holding place and judgment isn't needed for a soul to go there upon death. God tells us through scripture that a person who doesn't believe is already condemned because He denies God's sacrifice for them to cover them. Whether they are alive or they die in this state of unbelief, they are already condemned. One must believe fully on Jesus Christ to be saved. Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son. John 3:18 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84114775 United States 06/03/2023 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John14:6 Quoting: HeartSutra The way to Heaven is only through Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ alone. ---------------------------- NOW TRY IT SPIN IT. There are none who are good. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. If the person does not believe in Jesus, they will go to hell. |
Miz Dirck de Noorman User ID: 82674938 United States 06/03/2023 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The concept of "hell" didn't exist in the old teachings. Quoting: Miz Dirck de Noorman It was introduced by Zoroastrianism, where it was witnessed as an effective means of control over its followers. It didn't exist then, and it doesn't exist now. Correct Jesus must be a liar then. It's an epidemic around here, people putting words into the mouths of others in order to further their narratives. I'm not biting. I know the truth and I couldn't care less about your misguided soul. =) Good girls go to heaven ~ Heathen women go wherever the fuck they want |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43335177 United States 06/03/2023 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The concept of "hell" didn't exist in the old teachings. Quoting: Miz Dirck de Noorman It was introduced by Zoroastrianism, where it was witnessed as an effective means of control over its followers. It didn't exist then, and it doesn't exist now. Correct Jesus must be a liar then. It's an epidemic around here, people putting words into the mouths of others in order to further their narratives. I'm not biting. I know the truth and I couldn't care less about your misguided soul. =) Does heaven exist? |
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Miz Dirck de Noorman User ID: 82674938 United States 06/03/2023 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an epidemic around here, people putting words into the mouths of others in order to further their narratives. I'm not biting. I know the truth and I couldn't care less about your misguided soul. =) Does heaven exist? I'm not sure I'd ever claim to know with any certainty -- what fool would? -- what exists after we exit this realm. I guess at this point in my spiritual journey I'd say that it doesn't matter to me. Whatever it is won't be negative and will only serve my spiritual growth, so I don't pay much mind to the "after" and concentrate on now. Last Edited by Ms. Dirck de Noorman on 06/03/2023 07:51 PM Good girls go to heaven ~ Heathen women go wherever the fuck they want |
Seek^ User ID: 84855065 United States 06/03/2023 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The concept of "hell" didn't exist in the old teachings. Quoting: Miz Dirck de Noorman It was introduced by Zoroastrianism, where it was witnessed as an effective means of control over its followers. It didn't exist then, and it doesn't exist now. Correct Jesus must be a liar then. It's an epidemic around here, people putting words into the mouths of others in order to further their narratives. I'm not biting. I know the truth and I couldn't care less about your misguided soul. =) But what you said above is false hence my comment. To say hell doesn't exist now or in the past is Biblically untrue hence why I said Jesus must be a liar because He warned more about hell and how to avoid going there than any other subject. People need to come to grips with the reality of hell and understand how they avoid going there. Once they figure this out, they need to stop aiding the devil by spreading lies about its existence which in doing so, can put those who are unstable in a sense of complacency ultimately putting at risk their soul. It pains me to see the confusion and the lack of urgency to help others from some. Eternity is forever and this reality is lost on so many who think its a joke. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85627976 United States 06/03/2023 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | John14:6 Quoting: HeartSutra The way to Heaven is only through Jesus Christ, and Jesus Christ alone. ---------------------------- NOW TRY IT SPIN IT. There are none who are good. All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. If the person does not believe in Jesus, they will go to hell. Yeah..... except that christian heaven/hell like all religions are bullshit "Follow our stupid fucking rules and you get a mansion next to Jesus...disobey and you spend all time being tortured" How stupid are people to believe this bullshit?? That is not the gospel at all, you've totally got the wrong idea. Someone has misled you. Christ was given to us because we CAN'T follow rules, at least not good enough to get into heaven. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 43335177 United States 06/03/2023 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an epidemic around here, people putting words into the mouths of others in order to further their narratives. I'm not biting. I know the truth and I couldn't care less about your misguided soul. =) Does heaven exist? I'm not sure I'd ever claim to know with any certainty -- what fool would? -- what exists after we exit this realm. I guess at this point in my spiritual journey I'd say that it doesn't matter to me. Whatever it is won't be negative and will only serve my spiritual growth, so I don't pay much mind to the "after" and concentrate on now. Do the murderer and his murdered get the same result? |
Miz Dirck de Noorman User ID: 82674938 United States 06/03/2023 08:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an epidemic around here, people putting words into the mouths of others in order to further their narratives. I'm not biting. I know the truth and I couldn't care less about your misguided soul. =) But what you said above is false hence my comment. To say hell doesn't exist now or in the past is Biblically untrue hence why I said Jesus must be a liar because He warned more about hell and how to avoid going there than any other subject. People need to come to grips with the reality of hell and understand how they avoid going there. Once they figure this out, they need to stop aiding the devil by spreading lies about its existence which in doing so, can put those who are unstable in a sense of complacency ultimately putting at risk their soul. It pains me to see the confusion and the lack of urgency to help others from some. Eternity is forever and this reality is lost on so many who think its a joke. My statement was not false and, in fact, is backed by a whole lot of objective evidence. Go look if you don't believe me. Good girls go to heaven ~ Heathen women go wherever the fuck they want |
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Miz Dirck de Noorman User ID: 82674938 United States 06/03/2023 08:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Miz Dirck de Noorman It's an epidemic around here, people putting words into the mouths of others in order to further their narratives. I'm not biting. I know the truth and I couldn't care less about your misguided soul. =) Does heaven exist? I'm not sure I'd ever claim to know with any certainty -- what fool would? -- what exists after we exit this realm. I guess at this point in my spiritual journey I'd say that it doesn't matter to me. Whatever it is won't be negative and will only serve my spiritual growth, so I don't pay much mind to the "after" and concentrate on now. Do the murderer and his murdered get the same result? Life isn't linear, dude. I cannot possibly know that. Neither can you. Good girls go to heaven ~ Heathen women go wherever the fuck they want |
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