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GaryMule User ID: 75768309 ![]() 06/14/2023 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I'm surprised but don't expect any help in NYC if you're in trouble.... Quoting: peterpeccary [link to nypost.com (secure)] ![]() ![]() This is exactly correct. I hate it as well but it is proper. He should get charged with involuntary manslaughter, same as if you killed someone in a fight. This was not self defense, the black dude did not touch anyone. If he had, then this guy walks with no charges. It doesn't matter that the DA sucks and undercharges others people. All that matters is the facts of this case. The fact is this guy put his hands on another man, he didn't mean to kill him, but unfortunately the guy died. The deceased was THREATENING other passengers with DEATH, saying he was going to k!ll them. His history proves that his threats should be taken seriously, as his rap sheet shows that he assaulted and attacked at least 40 people over time, seriously injuring more than a few! Fighting words have consequences! I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other passengers on that train car weren't personally familiar with the dusky menace, perhaps being a victim at an earlier time and letting Mr. Penny know this. That's all fine and good. But he choose to get involved and his actions caused the guys death. Also, taking about the guys rap sheet has nothing to do with it, as the guy had no idea what his history or rap sheet was at the time of his action. If you don't want to get into legal issues, then leave it alone until the words turn into action. Crazy people walk around all the time saying and actually doing crazy things. That doesn't give other non-crazy people the right to grab them, and then accidentally kill them. Fact is this is not self defense, and makes the good guys look crazy. Last Edited by GaryMule on 06/14/2023 08:29 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85960021 ![]() 06/14/2023 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284353 ![]() ![]() This is exactly correct. I hate it as well but it is proper. He should get charged with involuntary manslaughter, same as if you killed someone in a fight. This was not self defense, the black dude did not touch anyone. If he had, then this guy walks with no charges. It doesn't matter that the DA sucks and undercharges others people. All that matters is the facts of this case. The fact is this guy put his hands on another man, he didn't mean to kill him, but unfortunately the guy died. The deceased was THREATENING other passengers with DEATH, saying he was going to k!ll them. His history proves that his threats should be taken seriously, as his rap sheet shows that he assaulted and attacked at least 40 people over time, seriously injuring more than a few! Fighting words have consequences! I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other passengers on that train car weren't personally familiar with the dusky menace, perhaps being a victim at an earlier time and letting Mr. Penny know this. That's all fine and good. But he choose to get involved and his actions caused the guys death. Also, taking about the guys rap sheet has nothing to do with it, as the guy had no idea what his history or rap sheet was at the time of his action. If you don't want to get into legal issues, then leave it alone until the words turn into action. Crazy people walk around all the time saying and actually doing crazy things. That doesn't give other non-crazy people the right to grab them, and then accidentally kill them. Fact is this is not self defense, and makes the good guys look crazy. Nope, the ONLY mistake made was that the authorities were called. If these creature lived it was only a matter of time before he actually k!lled someone himself. Mr. Penny was doing a great service to the community, if not intentionally. Ridding the community of a threatening menace. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 85893258 ![]() 06/14/2023 08:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I'm surprised but don't expect any help in NYC if you're in trouble.... Quoting: peterpeccary [link to nypost.com (secure)] Is the DA Alvin Bragg? |
YEA Eoreris User ID: 72201589 ![]() 06/14/2023 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As Jesus said about the end days approaching.. They will cast many of you into prison.. This guy is just one of the first.. People in the USA do not realize this will happen.. Here it is.. the worship of black thugs over rightiousness and doing what is right.. This is how the tribulation starts if you have ever wondered why blacks are the way they are and 99 % vote DEMON CRAT God liked |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78832094 ![]() 06/14/2023 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As Jesus said about the end days approaching.. They will cast many of you into prison.. This guy is just one of the first.. People in the USA do not realize this will happen.. Here it is.. the worship of black thugs over rightiousness and doing what is right.. This is how the tribulation starts if you have ever wondered why blacks are the way they are and 99 % vote DEMON CRAT Quoting: YEA Eoreris Dude, you have absolutely nothing to do with Jesus. |
Keilani User ID: 83107670 ![]() 06/14/2023 08:59 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, guys, but you can't kill someone just because they're mentally ill. If this guy didn't know how to restrain without killing, then he should leave it up to the police to do. I mean the guy is smirking as he's choke holding him like he enjoyed it. You just can't run around and kill someone because you deem them a threat, unless they're outright shooting people or in the act of killing someone. Think about it, that's why he lost. It was a full jury, people convened on what happened. They did not see him as a threat where it justified him losing his life. Mentally ill people roam around here and act stupid all day long, some get super obnoxious, doesn't give you a right to kill them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85894481 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I'm surprised but don't expect any help in NYC if you're in trouble.... Quoting: peterpeccary [link to nypost.com (secure)] When you listen to fools, the mob rules. |
Keilani User ID: 83107670 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:02 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1284353 ![]() ![]() This is exactly correct. I hate it as well but it is proper. He should get charged with involuntary manslaughter, same as if you killed someone in a fight. This was not self defense, the black dude did not touch anyone. If he had, then this guy walks with no charges. It doesn't matter that the DA sucks and undercharges others people. All that matters is the facts of this case. The fact is this guy put his hands on another man, he didn't mean to kill him, but unfortunately the guy died. The deceased was THREATENING other passengers with DEATH, saying he was going to k!ll them. His history proves that his threats should be taken seriously, as his rap sheet shows that he assaulted and attacked at least 40 people over time, seriously injuring more than a few! Fighting words have consequences! I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other passengers on that train car weren't personally familiar with the dusky menace, perhaps being a victim at an earlier time and letting Mr. Penny know this. That's all fine and good. But he choose to get involved and his actions caused the guys death. Also, taking about the guys rap sheet has nothing to do with it, as the guy had no idea what his history or rap sheet was at the time of his action. If you don't want to get into legal issues, then leave it alone until the words turn into action. Crazy people walk around all the time saying and actually doing crazy things. That doesn't give other non-crazy people the right to grab them, and then accidentally kill them. Fact is this is not self defense, and makes the good guys look crazy. Absolutely correct. The jury found him guilty, because he was. It wasn't self defense, so he can't use that, and you're right he didn't know anything about the guy or his history, so it's just not a good idea to go take the law into your own hand and start choking people out. Someone's got to draw the line somewhere. |
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CO SKY WATCHER User ID: 76935545 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:07 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NYC and NY State are gone and falling to the WEF and communists. They want to destroy society and disarm us while making people feel hopeless and demoralized “Those who vote decide nothing. Those who count the vote decide everything.” ― Joseph Stalin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80757465 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As Jesus said about the end days approaching.. They will cast many of you into prison.. This guy is just one of the first.. People in the USA do not realize this will happen.. Here it is.. the worship of black thugs over rightiousness and doing what is right.. This is how the tribulation starts if you have ever wondered why blacks are the way they are and 99 % vote DEMON CRAT Quoting: YEA Eoreris Yes, As Jesus said about the end days approaching.. They will cast many of you into prison. He was specifically talking about those of us who choke people to death on the subway. |
Fossy Dragonborn User ID: 74732751 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lessoned learned, don't kill the mentally ill in a liberal city, even by accident or self-defense. It's going to cost you allot of $$. Those big city tweekers are on the verge of dropping dead at any time due to health problems and if they happen to do it while in your head lock, you will be prosecuted...period. If there was a weapon involved by the Tweeker, then it's a different story. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85907609 Well, I guess I never saw this original post about this incident but this tells me all I need to know. Thank you for the post. Hopefully, there are some people in New York that will stand up for him and protest. Believe in the Lord and live forever |
YEA Eoreris User ID: 72201589 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The guy died because he was stoned and was showing violent drugged power .. Just like George Floyd.. He had to be stopped just like Floyd before he hurt some innocent people.. Both their hearts stopped from the restraint (Needed) to stop their violence.. it was their drugs they were on.. and their violence.. There was no way to know how to stop them with some sort of restraint / release/ restraint and release to keep their sorry violent asses alive God liked |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80757465 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy fucked up. He watched too much MMA and didn't know what he was doing If he was going to use a sleeper hold on the guy it only takes 10 seconds. In less than a minute the guy could easily have been brain dead. It cuts off blood to the brain. This isn't a choke hold cutting off air. This is easily gross negligence |
peterpeccary (OP) User ID: 73847342 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I'm surprised but don't expect any help in NYC if you're in trouble.... Quoting: peterpeccary [link to nypost.com (secure)] ![]() ![]() 40+ arrests, including assaults .....one of which was on a old woman that he has a warrant for his arrest on......But I'm sure he just a beloved Michael Jackson impersonator while attending doctor skool...... ![]() I'll wait... You know the vid leading up the the chokehold is not released yet....all you saw was the aftermath....if it shows a credible threat then its different story....we also haven't heard what the other passengers felt on the train.... It doesn't have to be an actual attack to be deem self defense if he felt its credible..... |
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DuckHunter60 User ID: 83899091 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not that I'm surprised but don't expect any help in NYC if you're in trouble.... Quoting: peterpeccary [link to nypost.com (secure)] ![]() ![]() Yep, gotta wait until someone is dead before you can protect them from being dead. Did you read anything about this person or just come on here and spew bullshit. |
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peterpeccary (OP) User ID: 73847342 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lol Imagine the blood in the streets if anyone could kill any person who they deemed a threat? Well on the street, you can retreat as NYC requires.....on a moving train, where are you running to?.....Lets see the vids and what the other passengers say before canonizing another saint.....LOL.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72610351 ![]() 06/14/2023 09:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This guy fucked up. He watched too much MMA and didn't know what he was doing Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80757465 If he was going to use a sleeper hold on the guy it only takes 10 seconds. In less than a minute the guy could easily have been brain dead. It cuts off blood to the brain. This isn't a choke hold cutting off air. This is easily gross negligence Does that count if the bum is already braindead? |
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