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"Russian" Defense Minister Shoigu is the REAL Traitor

 
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I suspect something entirely different is happening than what the Western MSM and others want you to think. If you read the Wagner paragraph in Putin's speech carefully... it can be interpreted more than one way. Most of that paragraph praises Wagner [who liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk.] Putin also talks about betrayal and treason. But exactly who Putin is talking about is not exactly clear.

I have hated the NON-Russian "Russian" Defense Minister Shoigu from the beginning. For years there has been speculation in Russia about Shoigu replacing Putin. For years I warned Putin against Shoigu via Pravda. In the Ukraine conflict, Shoigu has undermined Wagner's victories and even overtly attacked Wagner troops who liberated Russians. I would not be surprised if Shoigu and his cohorts are the real traitors Putin is covertly referencing in his speech. I hope Wagner is on its way to Moscow to support Putin and take out Shoigu!


Here is that paragraph in Putin's speech:

" What we are facing is essentially a betrayal. Inflated ambitions and personal interests have led to treason – treason against our country, our people and the common cause which Wagner Group soldiers and commanders were fighting and dying for shoulder to shoulder, together with our other units and troops. The heroes who liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk, towns and villages in Donbass, fought and gave their lives for Novorossiya and the unity of the Russian world. Their memory and glory have also been betrayed by those who are attempting to stage a revolt and are pushing the country towards anarchy and fratricide – and ultimately, towards defeat and surrender."



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Something else interesting about Putin's speech. He compared the traitor's attempt at revolution to the 1917 revolution in Russia which was also fostered and conducted via foreign agents. US president Wilson praised those revolutionaries in his April 1917 WW1 speech to congress. Wilson called those revolutions who had deposed Russia's Tsar, America's "partner"!!


Here is that paragraph in Putin's speech:


" A blow like this was dealt to Russia in 1917, when the country was fighting in World War I. But the victory was stolen from it: intrigues, squabbles and politicking behind the backs of the army and the nation turned into the greatest turmoil, the destruction of the army and the collapse of the state, and the loss of vast territories, ultimately leading to the tragedy of the civil war. "


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Here is Putin's entire speech as posted on Kremlin.ru

Address to citizens of Russia

June 24, 2023

I am addressing citizens of Russia, the personnel of the Armed Forces, law enforcement agencies and security services, and the soldiers and commanders who are now fighting in their combat positions, repulsing enemy attacks and doing it heroically – I know this as I spoke once again with the commanders of all sections of the frontline last night. I am also addressing those who were dragged into this criminal adventure through deceit or threats and pushed onto the path of a grave crime – an armed mutiny.

Today, Russia is waging a tough struggle for its future, repelling the aggression of neo-Nazis and their patrons. The entire military, economic and informational machine of the West is directed against us. We are fighting for the lives and security of our people, for our sovereignty and independence, for the right to be and remain Russia, a state with a thousand-year history.

This battle, when the fate of our nation is being decided, requires consolidation of all forces. It requires unity, consolidation and a sense of responsibility, and everything that weakens us, any strife that our external enemies can use and do so to subvert us from within, must be discarded.

Therefore, any actions that split our nation are essentially a betrayal of our people, of our comrades-in-arms who are now fighting at the frontline. This is a knife in the back of our country and our people.

A blow like this was dealt to Russia in 1917, when the country was fighting in World War I. But the victory was stolen from it: intrigues, squabbles and politicking behind the backs of the army and the nation turned into the greatest turmoil, the destruction of the army and the collapse of the state, and the loss of vast territories, ultimately leading to the tragedy of the civil war.

Russians were killing Russians and brothers were killing brothers, while all sorts of political adventurers and foreign forces profited from the situation by tearing the country apart to divide it.

We will not allow this to happen again. We will protect our people and our statehood from any threats, including from internal betrayal.

What we are facing is essentially a betrayal. Inflated ambitions and personal interests have led to treason – treason against our country, our people and the common cause which Wagner Group soldiers and commanders were fighting and dying for shoulder to shoulder, together with our other units and troops. The heroes who liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk, towns and villages in Donbass, fought and gave their lives for Novorossiya and the unity of the Russian world. Their memory and glory have also been betrayed by those who are attempting to stage a revolt and are pushing the country towards anarchy and fratricide – and ultimately, towards defeat and surrender.

Once again, any internal revolt is a deadly threat to our statehood and our nation. It is a blow to Russia, to our people. Our actions to defend the Fatherland from this threat will be harsh. All those who have consciously chosen the path of betrayal, planned an armed mutiny and taken the path of blackmail and terrorism, will inevitably be punished and will answer before the law and our people.

The Armed Forces and other government agencies have received the necessary orders. Additional counterterrorism measures are now in effect in Moscow, the Moscow Region and several other regions. Resolute action will also be taken to stabilise the situation in Rostov-on-Don. It remains difficult; in effect, the work of civil and military authorities has been blocked.

As the President of Russia and Supreme Commander-in-Chief, and as a citizen of Russia, I will take every effort to defend the country and protect the constitutional order as well as the lives, security and freedom of our citizens.

Those who staged the mutiny and took up arms against their comrades – they have betrayed Russia and will be brought to account. I urge those who are being dragged into this crime not to make a fatal and tragic mistake but make the only right choice: to stop taking part in criminal actions.

I am certain that we will preserve and defend what we hold dear and sacred, and together with our Motherland we will overcome any hardships and become even stronger.

[link to en.kremlin.ru]


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Wagner's rebellion was against TRAITOR Shoigu


Russian mercenary chief says his forces are rebelling to oust the defense minister

"The owner of the Wagner private military contractor made his most direct challenge to the Kremlin yet on Friday, calling for an armed rebellion aimed at ousting Russia's defense minister...

... Prigozhin said late Friday his troops would punish Shoigu in an armed rebellion and urged the army not to offer resistance. "This is not a military coup, but a march of justice," Prigozhin declared. "


[link to www.npr.org (secure)]



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Wagner boss says march on Moscow halted to ‘avoid bloodshed’

" Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin says he ordered his mercenaries to halt their march on Moscow to avoid “shedding Russian blood”.

Prigozhin said while his men are just 200km (120 miles) from Moscow, he decided on Saturday to turn them back to prevent killings....

... Prigozhin’s comments came after Belarus’ leader Alexander Lukashenko said he negotiated with the mercenary boss to stop Wagner’s troop movement after discussing the issue with Putin."


[link to www.aljazeera.com (secure)]


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[size=5]Prigozhin did not say whether the Kremlin responded to his demand to oust Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu. There was no immediate comment from the Kremlin.[/size]


[link to www.aljazeera.com (secure)]


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THIS is important !!

THIS is the reason for Wagner's marched to Moscow !!

NON-Russian defense minister Shoigu is a TRAITOR !!


"Prigozhin did not say whether the Kremlin responded to his demand to oust Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu.

There was no immediate comment from the Kremlin. "

[link to www.aljazeera.com (secure)]
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Yes OP
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THIS is important !!

THIS is the reason for Wagner's marched to Moscow !!

NON-Russian defense minister Shoigu is a TRAITOR !!


"Prigozhin did not say whether the Kremlin responded to his demand to oust Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu.

There was no immediate comment from the Kremlin. "

[link to www.aljazeera.com (secure)]
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Sold out to NATO?
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THIS is important !!

THIS is the reason for Wagner's marched to Moscow !!

NON-Russian defense minister Shoigu is a TRAITOR !!


"Prigozhin did not say whether the Kremlin responded to his demand to oust Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu.

There was no immediate comment from the Kremlin. "

[link to www.aljazeera.com (secure)]
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If that's the reason, it was a very egoistic one on the part of the Wagner leader, regardless of the defense minister persona.

In the quote below the russian president is squarely blaming that group's leaders.

What we are facing is essentially a betrayal. Inflated ambitions and personal interests have led to treason – treason against our country, our people and the common cause which Wagner Group soldiers and commanders were fighting and dying for shoulder to shoulder, together with our other units and troops. The heroes who liberated Soledar and Artyomovsk, towns and villages in Donbass, fought and gave their lives for Novorossiya and the unity of the Russian world. Their memory and glory have also been betrayed by those who are attempting to stage a revolt and are pushing the country towards anarchy and fratricide – and ultimately, towards defeat and surrender.
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Yes Kate, it appears Shoigu sold out to NATO, Why else would he undermine Putin's victories in Ukraine?! With Putin gone, NON-Russian Shoigu thinks he will BE Russia's new leader. If that happens, Russia is finished !!


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Obviously, Miri2019 did NOT read or understand my topic post.

It was TRAITOR defense minister Shoigu WHO KEPT UNDERMINING, even BOMBING Wagner's positions and victories for Putin in Ukraine !!

Do you not understand that ?!

By repeatedly undermining/bombing Wagner in Ukraine... TRAITOR Shoigu was undermining/bombing Putin !!


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Could care less who takes mother russia's throne

You come across the way. You show respect in kind motherfucker

Or prepare for a short reign

How many ti.es I gotta tell yall the same shit ?
Hmmmm...
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Putin is the last hope for Russia and the last hope for the world !

THIS is why I am so passionate about Putin !

Those who read/understand the Bible know what happens when there is no righteous man to stand up.

God requires a man to stand in the gap, to stand up against evil.

This is a reoccurring Bible theme... will there or will there not be a man... a leader...
to stand in the gap between God's people and God's wrath.

Here are some Bible examples.

I looked for someone among them who would build up the wall and stand before Me in the gap
on behalf of the land, so I would not have to destroy it, but I found no one.

Ezekiel 22:30


There is none to guide her among all the sons she has borne...
there is none to take her by the hand among all the sons she has brought up.

Isaiah 51:18


He saw that there was no one, He was appalled that there was no one to intervene...

Isaiah 59:16


Why was there no man when I came? When I called, why was there none to answer?

Isaiah 50:2


But when I look, there is no one, And there is no counselor among them who,
if I ask, can give an answer.

Isaiah 41:28


I looked, but there was no one to help; I was appalled that there was no one to uphold...

Isaiah 63:5


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Putin = Michael


St Michael Archangel of the Apocalypse

[link to cdn.drouot.com (secure)]


In 2012 in a Christmas interview at the church in which he had been secretly baptized, Putin said he had been baptized on the feast day of the Archangel Michael. Putin said the priest told his mother she could name him Michael [but his parents had already chosen his family name, Vladimir.] Michael is Putin's spiritual name which has very special meaning both Biblically and in Russian Tsarist history.

In Russian history, there was a terrible time that Russians historically call their "Time of Troubles" when Russia had no true Tsar and foreigners were invading and destroying Russia. At that time Michael stood up to save Russia. He was a young royal named Michael Romanov who literally stood up and was crowned Tsar in 1613. Michael was the first of Tsarist Russia's 300 year Romanov dynasty which ended in 1917 when evil revolutionaries forced Tsar Nicholas II to abdicate the throne. Nicholas first offered his crown to his brother Michael, who refused it [refused to stand up.] A few months later, the evil communists brutally conquered Russia and mass-murdered millions, including the last of the Romanovs - Tsar Nicholas II and family and his brother Michael [who had refused to stand up.]

Compare that Russian history to Michael standing up for God's people in a "time of trouble" - Daniel 12:1 [King James Version]


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Putin = Michael


St Michael Archangel of the Apocalypse

[link to cdn.drouot.com (secure)]


In 2012 in a Christmas interview at the church in which he had been secretly baptized, Putin said he had been baptized on the feast day of the Archangel Michael. Putin said the priest told his mother she could name him Michael [but his parents had already chosen his family name, Vladimir.] Michael is Putin's spiritual name which has very special meaning both Biblically and in Russian Tsarist history.

In Russian history, there was a terrible time that Russians historically call their "Time of Troubles" when Russia had no true Tsar and foreigners were invading and destroying Russia. At that time Michael stood up to save Russia. He was a young royal named Michael Romanov who literally stood up and was crowned Tsar in 1613. Michael was the first of Tsarist Russia's 300 year Romanov dynasty which ended in 1917 when evil revolutionaries forced Tsar Nicholas II to abdicate the throne. Nicholas first offered his crown to his brother Michael, who refused it [refused to stand up.] A few months later, the evil communists brutally conquered Russia and mass-murdered millions, including the last of the Romanovs - Tsar Nicholas II and family and his brother Michael [who had refused to stand up.]

Compare that Russian history to Michael standing up for God's people in a "time of trouble" - Daniel 12:1 [King James Version]


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You fucking bastard you piece of shit Putin is a killer. He is responsible for the killing of thousands of children. I bet you know what this means according to your scripture to kill the little ones.

You dumbfucking cocksucker I bet you are dumb as a rock or shilling, Putin is a child killer.

You little shit I would beat the shit out of you for being dumb as a rock and promoting this putin guy who is a master child killer.
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Apparently some posters here have no clue what its like to suffer God's wrath... even though Bible history is filled with examples.

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The evil foul mouth demonic poster is fuming at the thought of Putin standing up as Michael.

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Wagner boss calls off march on Moscow; agrees to exile in Belarus

" Prigozhin did not say whether the Kremlin responded to his demand to remove Defence Minister Sergey Shoigu.

The Wagner chief will move to neighbouring Belarus as part of the deal and the criminal case against him will be closed, the Kremlin said on Saturday.

Prigozhin’s troops who joined him in the uprising will not face prosecution and those who did not will be offered contracts by the defence ministry, spokesman Dmitry Peskov said. "

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Putin = Michael


St Michael Archangel of the Apocalypse

[link to cdn.drouot.com (secure)]


In 2012 in a Christmas interview at the church in which he had been secretly baptized, Putin said he had been baptized on the feast day of the Archangel Michael. Putin said the priest told his mother she could name him Michael [but his parents had already chosen his family name, Vladimir.] Michael is Putin's spiritual name which has very special meaning both Biblically and in Russian Tsarist history.

In Russian history, there was a terrible time that Russians historically call their "Time of Troubles" when Russia had no true Tsar and foreigners were invading and destroying Russia. At that time Michael stood up to save Russia. He was a young royal named Michael Romanov who literally stood up and was crowned Tsar in 1613. Michael was the first of Tsarist Russia's 300 year Romanov dynasty which ended in 1917 when evil revolutionaries forced Tsar Nicholas II to abdicate the throne. Nicholas first offered his crown to his brother Michael, who refused it [refused to stand up.] A few months later, the evil communists brutally conquered Russia and mass-murdered millions, including the last of the Romanovs - Tsar Nicholas II and family and his brother Michael [who had refused to stand up.]

Compare that Russian history to Michael standing up for God's people in a "time of trouble" - Daniel 12:1 [King James Version]


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You fucking bastard you piece of shit Putin is a killer. He is responsible for the killing of thousands of children. I bet you know what this means according to your scripture to kill the little ones.

You dumbfucking cocksucker I bet you are dumb as a rock or shilling, Putin is a child killer.

You little shit I would beat the shit out of you for being dumb as a rock and promoting this putin guy who is a master child killer.
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Libtards love abortion but but but the children.

Fuck you libtard
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As always, those that Follow the Word of Atossa are always more informed than they Realise.

The treason to Which Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin refers to - is not the guilt that Wagner has, but it is shared by all those whom have arisen to their positions through greed, avarice and irresponsibility.

Shoigu is not immune, nor is the man in the trench.

You either fight for Russia, and Putin, or you are a traitor.

Simple.
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My new topic:

Thread: Vladimir Putin is Brilliant !!

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Great thread!!!
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Keep an eye on the hot dog vendor...
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Thank you, JADR+ :)

When I post about Putin and Russia...
I put my heart and soul in every word !


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TheKeyling: "As always, those that Follow the Word of Atossa are always more informed than they Realise."
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Thank you!

I wish I were back on Pravda.

But I suspect I know why Pravda pulled the plug.

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Obviously, Miri2019 did NOT read or understand my topic post.
It was TRAITOR defense minister Shoigu WHO KEPT UNDERMINING, even BOMBING Wagner's positions and victories for Putin in Ukraine !!
Do you not understand that ?!
By repeatedly undermining/bombing Wagner in Ukraine... TRAITOR Shoigu was undermining/bombing Putin !!
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1. Mother of Shoigu is j.
2. Shoigu is is a knight of the Order of Malta.
That's explains all.
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Putin is the last hope for Russia and the last hope for the world !
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You think so?
Putin will soon be replaced by avatar of the Spirit of Truth promised by Jesus.
You'll find confirmation of his wisdom in the one-page file at the link (banned here):
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Quote: "1. Mother of Shoigu is j.
2. Shoigu is is a knight of the Order of Malta.
That's explains all."
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YES, Shoigu's mother was a j
who was born in a j town in Poland
and his father was Tuva [Asian]

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Great thread.
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Great thread.
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I especially appreciate you posting exactly what Putin said. It made things very clear.





GLP