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Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards

 
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Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
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The Biden administration is cracking down on water heaters by imposing greater efficiency standards.

Consumers will have to shovel out thousands of dollars more to install a heat pump water heater rather than a conventional storage water heater in order to fall in line with new standards released on Friday by the Department of Energy.



If the proposal is adopted, by 2029, all new electric water heaters must deploy heat pump technology and all gas-fired ones will use condensing technology.

The Department of Energy estimates that if finalized, the measure will “save Americans approximately $198 billion and reduce 501 million metric tons of harmful carbon dioxide emissions over 30 years.”


Residential water efficiency standards were last updated in 2010, and it is essential these new standards be approved in order to “slash” utility bills, according to U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]


is this waht 86k IRS agents are for, ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCENT OF WATER HEATERS AND GAS STOVES??!!



EDIT : FOUND THIS AFTER


Navajo Nation Leader Says Biden, AOC Energy Policies Cripple Tribe’s Economy

[link to www.gopusa.com (secure)]

(The Center Square) – Members of the Navajo Nation in southeastern U.S. say the federal government is leaving their people behind with its energy policies, crippling their economy and leaving more people in poverty.

Republicans on the U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources are attempting to overturn such Biden administration policies, including the Department of Interior’s land withdrawal and ban on oil and gas leasing outside of Chaco Canyon in New Mexico, where members of the Navajo tribe reside.

....



U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., said that the Navajo were placed in an “economic hostage situation,” with Nope believing that continuing to mine oil and gas is the only source of possible income.

“The answer to that, in my view, is not to revert back to that [oil and gas mining],” Ocasio-Cortez said, “but to invest and reinvest in these communities, particularly where there is harm being done.”

Last Edited by Coastie Patriot on 07/24/2023 09:32 AM
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THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

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Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
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to grow up remembering th

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Re: Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
Build Back Better = We won't fix or upgrade anything, but we'll condition you to use less while our infrastructure continues to decline.
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New efficiency my arse. He wants the whole country to go full on Little House on the Prarie.
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New efficiency my arse. He wants the whole country to go full on Little House on the Prarie.
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He wants the whole country to go full on Mad Max / The Road Warrior.

FIXED
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Build Back Better = We won't fix or upgrade anything, but we'll condition you to use less while our infrastructure continues to decline.
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BBB- we are going to make everything more efficient environmentally with no government reimbursment or tax credits. it will all be at your expense and if not we will seize your property based on new eco laws and noncompliance will cost you what you own.


sounds really Diverse Inclusive and Equitable to poorer people who were barely able to get a house, and the costs for renters will get passed on by landlords. YES , DIE , that is what div incl equity really is about


OR you can just move into massive facilities they ahve built that are compliant
Coastie Patriot
SIC SEMPER TYRRANIS

THE SAME PEOPLE WHO SAID NO GUNS BECAUSE OF POLICE NOW WANT TO DEFUND THE POLICE!!!!

Dr Thaddeus They
They don't really care whether the truth gets out, because the public no longer knows what's meant by "the truth."

Well, I mean, no one can tell the difference anymore between what's real and what's fake.

Anyway, the point is, I can tell you all of this, right out in the open, because it doesn't matter who knows about it. They won't know whether to believe it or not.-
X Files: Lost art of Forehead Sweat

A gun is a tool, Marion, no better or no worse than any other tool, an axe, a shovel or anything. A gun is as good or as bad as the man using it. Remember that.
-SHANE-

Jefferson Smith: You see, boys forget what their country means by just reading The Land of the Free in history books. Then they get to be men they forget even more. Liberty's too precious a thing to be buried in books, Miss Saunders. Men should hold it up in front of them every single day of their lives and say: I'm free to think and to speak. My ancestors couldn't, I can, and my children will. Boys ought to grow up remembering that . - MR Smith Goes To Washington-

to grow up remembering th

My oath to support and defend the constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic has no expiration date!!!

Ten Bears : It's sad that governments are chiefed by the double tongues. There is iron in your words of death for all Comanche to see and so there is iron in your words of life. No signed paper can hold the iron. It must come from men. Outlaw Josey Wales
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Re: Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
New efficiency my arse. He wants the whole country to go full on Little House on the Prarie.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84008177


He wants the whole country to go full on Mad Max / The Road Warrior.

FIXED
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Hat tip to you, sir. Spot on..
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You are one dumb sob

Shut the fck up
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You are one dumb sob

Shut the fck up
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Your intellect, however, is mesmerizing.
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Imma start an underground railroad for banned appliances. Everything will be transported with the three wheeler ATVs they banned in the 80's. It will all be powered by high lead gas. And it will belch out black smoke only over EV lanes and bike paths.

First item to be transported is high flow toilets. They are coming back with more water use than the originals. 20 gallons per flush you eco, rearhole-diddlers!
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Re: Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
You are one dumb sob

Shut the fck up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72311901

Your intellect, however, is mesmerizing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86111570


You can shut the fck up as well.

Querstions?
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You are one dumb sob

Shut the fck up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72311901

Your intellect, however, is mesmerizing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86111570


You can shut the fck up as well.

Querstions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72311901

Just one, is that your only trick?
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Re: Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
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The Biden administration is cracking down on water heaters by imposing greater efficiency standards.

Consumers will have to shovel out thousands of dollars more to install a heat pump water heater rather than a conventional storage water heater in order to fall in line with new standards released on Friday by the Department of Energy.



If the proposal is adopted, by 2029, all new electric water heaters must deploy heat pump technology and all gas-fired ones will use condensing technology.

The Department of Energy estimates that if finalized, the measure will “save Americans approximately $198 billion and reduce 501 million metric tons of harmful carbon dioxide emissions over 30 years.”


Residential water efficiency standards were last updated in 2010, and it is essential these new standards be approved in order to “slash” utility bills, according to U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]


is this waht 86k IRS agents are for, ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCENT OF WATER HEATERS AND GAS STOVES??!!






EDIT : FOUND THIS AFTER


Navajo Nation Leader Says Biden, AOC Energy Policies Cripple Tribe’s Economy

[link to www.gopusa.com (secure)]

(The Center Square) – Members of the Navajo Nation in southeastern U.S. say the federal government is leaving their people behind with its energy policies, crippling their economy and leaving more people in poverty.

Republicans on the U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources are attempting to overturn such Biden administration policies, including the Department of Interior’s land withdrawal and ban on oil and gas leasing outside of Chaco Canyon in New Mexico, where members of the Navajo tribe reside.

....



U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., said that the Navajo were placed in an “economic hostage situation,” with Nope believing that continuing to mine oil and gas is the only source of possible income.

“The answer to that, in my view, is not to revert back to that [oil and gas mining],” Ocasio-Cortez said, “but to invest and reinvest in these communities, particularly where there is harm being done.”
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot



Kjp confirms Biden coming after water heaters, dishwashers gas stoves and other appliances

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]
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Re: Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
You are one dumb sob

Shut the fck up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72311901

Your intellect, however, is mesmerizing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86111570


You can shut the fck up as well.

Querstions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72311901


Fuckin worthless troll.
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Re: Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
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The Biden administration is cracking down on water heaters by imposing greater efficiency standards.

Consumers will have to shovel out thousands of dollars more to install a heat pump water heater rather than a conventional storage water heater in order to fall in line with new standards released on Friday by the Department of Energy.



If the proposal is adopted, by 2029, all new electric water heaters must deploy heat pump technology and all gas-fired ones will use condensing technology.

The Department of Energy estimates that if finalized, the measure will “save Americans approximately $198 billion and reduce 501 million metric tons of harmful carbon dioxide emissions over 30 years.”


Residential water efficiency standards were last updated in 2010, and it is essential these new standards be approved in order to “slash” utility bills, according to U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]


is this waht 86k IRS agents are for, ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCENT OF WATER HEATERS AND GAS STOVES??!!






EDIT : FOUND THIS AFTER


Navajo Nation Leader Says Biden, AOC Energy Policies Cripple Tribe’s Economy

[link to www.gopusa.com (secure)]

(The Center Square) – Members of the Navajo Nation in southeastern U.S. say the federal government is leaving their people behind with its energy policies, crippling their economy and leaving more people in poverty.

Republicans on the U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources are attempting to overturn such Biden administration policies, including the Department of Interior’s land withdrawal and ban on oil and gas leasing outside of Chaco Canyon in New Mexico, where members of the Navajo tribe reside.

....



U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., said that the Navajo were placed in an “economic hostage situation,” with Nope believing that continuing to mine oil and gas is the only source of possible income.

“The answer to that, in my view, is not to revert back to that [oil and gas mining],” Ocasio-Cortez said, “but to invest and reinvest in these communities, particularly where there is harm being done.”
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot



Kjp confirms Biden coming after water heaters, dishwashers gas stoves and other appliances

[link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86052266


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Who cares about efficiency when you only use one burner once a day on the stove, and use the water heater only every two weeks for a shower?

The usage is near zero and included in the minimum bill.
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Who cares about efficiency when you only use one burner once a day on the stove, and use the water heater only every two weeks for a shower?

The usage is near zero and included in the minimum bill.
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Rather than buy anything, I'll just gut the bottom of an old water heater and put it outside the bathroom. I can plumb it to the shower and build a wood fire underneath. I tried that once and it works.
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Imma start an underground railroad for banned appliances. Everything will be transported with the three wheeler ATVs they banned in the 80's. It will all be powered by high lead gas. And it will belch out black smoke only over EV lanes and bike paths.

First item to be transported is high flow toilets. They are coming back with more water use than the originals. 20 gallons per flush you eco, rearhole-diddlers!
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clappa

I applaud you good sir for the fine work you are doing!
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New efficiency my arse. He wants the whole country to go full on Little House on the Prarie.
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He wants the whole country to go full on Mad Max / The Road Warrior.

FIXED
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bump
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Re: Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
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The Biden administration is cracking down on water heaters by imposing greater efficiency standards.

Consumers will have to shovel out thousands of dollars more to install a heat pump water heater rather than a conventional storage water heater in order to fall in line with new standards released on Friday by the Department of Energy.



If the proposal is adopted, by 2029, all new electric water heaters must deploy heat pump technology and all gas-fired ones will use condensing technology.

The Department of Energy estimates that if finalized, the measure will “save Americans approximately $198 billion and reduce 501 million metric tons of harmful carbon dioxide emissions over 30 years.”


Residential water efficiency standards were last updated in 2010, and it is essential these new standards be approved in order to “slash” utility bills, according to U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm.

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]


is this waht 86k IRS agents are for, ENVIRONMENTAL ENFORCENT OF WATER HEATERS AND GAS STOVES??!!



EDIT : FOUND THIS AFTER


Navajo Nation Leader Says Biden, AOC Energy Policies Cripple Tribe’s Economy

[link to www.gopusa.com (secure)]

(The Center Square) – Members of the Navajo Nation in southeastern U.S. say the federal government is leaving their people behind with its energy policies, crippling their economy and leaving more people in poverty.

Republicans on the U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources are attempting to overturn such Biden administration policies, including the Department of Interior’s land withdrawal and ban on oil and gas leasing outside of Chaco Canyon in New Mexico, where members of the Navajo tribe reside.

....



U.S. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., said that the Navajo were placed in an “economic hostage situation,” with Nope believing that continuing to mine oil and gas is the only source of possible income.

“The answer to that, in my view, is not to revert back to that [oil and gas mining],” Ocasio-Cortez said, “but to invest and reinvest in these communities, particularly where there is harm being done.”
 Quoting: Coastie Patriot


First they came for the wood stoves...
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I thought economies of scale cause prices to come down when they mass produce these things. This newer efficient technology should help bring prices down if all new models must meet certain criteria. Right?
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Who elected The Department of energy? Nobody voted for this agency. Why do they have anything to say in the lives of Americans?
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Re: Hide Your Gas Stove, Hide Your Water Heater: Biden Administration Sets New Efficiency Standards
Heat pump hot water heaters cost twice as much, use a compressor like a refrigerator, and do NOT work in a cold climate.

As usual, Biden is a fucking idiot.





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