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Ukraine: Final escalation?

 
Silicon Jock

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Ukraine: Final escalation?
It's no secret that NATO have been using the port in Odessa to transfer arms and equipment using "grain ships". Russia figured this out and obliterated everything NATO had there, including the port. Russia then warned that ANY inbound ship that attempts to dock in Odessa or anywhere else in Ukraine will be considered a target, because it is impossible to determine if the ship legitimately is hauling grain or weapons and ammo.

As a result of the obliteration of NATO's footprint in Odessa, Zelenski has called an emergency meeting with NATO. NATO will discuss getting directly involved by escorting inbound ships to Ukraine, and potentially firing on Russian vessels that intervene. I think the probability is high that NATO will agree to try to break the Russian blockade. This could be the flash point that sparks world war. Russia isn't bluffing, so I see the potential of some ships sinking in the very near future. No navy in the world (thus far) can counter Russia's hypersonic anti-ship missiles.

NATO supposedly also ordered Ukraine to withdraw from the front lines, assumed to reinforce defenses in western regions. Russia and Belarus very recently discussed imminent war with Poland.

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nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. all of their talk about "30 countries are together" has been outed. they can't even coordinate between 4 or 5 countries in being strategic or planning on where to send things lol. it's time to admit a true. done . finished.

eastern regions of ukraine are russia's. it's over.
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nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. all of their talk about "30 countries are together" has been outed. they can't even coordinate between 4 or 5 countries in being strategic or planning on where to send things lol. it's time to admit a true. done . finished.

eastern regions of ukraine are russia's. it's over.
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Agreed
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final lose of puti
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and i meant "truce" not "true". since i cant edit my post -_-

also, russia has the MOST resources of ANY country on this planet. and once they ramp up into war time scenarios and manufacturing? rofl any country that is fighting it will not be able to keep up, and they can basically kiss their ass goodbye.

Look at the numbers. Even ALL the nato countries combined INCLUDING the u.s cannot match the resource generation of russia.

you aren't defeating russia. as much as the united states WANTS to..it ain't happening. they must admit there are other top dogs on this planet, or suffer a fall of their empire.
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and i meant "truce" not "true". since i cant edit my post -_-

also, russia has the MOST resources of ANY country on this planet. and once they ramp up into war time scenarios and manufacturing? rofl any country that is fighting it will not be able to keep up, and they can basically kiss their ass goodbye.

Look at the numbers. Even ALL the nato countries combined INCLUDING the u.s cannot match the resource generation of russia.

you aren't defeating russia. as much as the united states WANTS to..it ain't happening. they must admit there are other top dogs on this planet, or suffer a fall of their empire.
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Apparently Juan doesn't agree with you lol
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final lose of puti
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are the "walls closing in" on Putin? perhaps russia is "almost out of missiles!!" will there be a coup on Putin?!1?! are the "russians deeply low in morale!?!" how about "tanks are being destroyed by villagers!!!!!!!!!" or how about the ghost of kiev!!?

fuckoff2

lmao

or how about the stories about the grandmas with machine guns coming out on the balconies and shooting the tanks! LOL. THAT was maybe the most cringe one.

wait no.. the most cringe goes to the "hardened ukrainian mother that threw a tomato soup can at a russian drone, and destroyed it"
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and i meant "truce" not "true". since i cant edit my post -_-

also, russia has the MOST resources of ANY country on this planet. and once they ramp up into war time scenarios and manufacturing? rofl any country that is fighting it will not be able to keep up, and they can basically kiss their ass goodbye.

Look at the numbers. Even ALL the nato countries combined INCLUDING the u.s cannot match the resource generation of russia.

you aren't defeating russia. as much as the united states WANTS to..it ain't happening. they must admit there are other top dogs on this planet, or suffer a fall of their empire.
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Apparently Juan doesn't agree with you lol
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doesnt matter if people dont want to agree due to emotional reactions due to the situation, due to them believing all the ukraine bullshit.

facts and statistics dont lie. the maps where the most resources on this planet are, don't lie.

Russia will THROW endless amounts of shit at you over and over until you are FORCED to submit. it's the tower defense turtle method like an rts game.
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Warnews 24/7 is ok, not always accurate but no one is.

I just find it doubtful that NATO told Pukraine to pull back from frontlines to prepare to defend the west.

There's a whole lot of nothing in western Ukraine. A very hard area to both defend and attack because of the wide open spaces. The area would favor Russia heavily except for trying to maintain a supply line within it. Not to mention being close to NATO air defenses. Awacs, AD and threat of NATO planes at any moment would be a severe challenge to RAF.

Except for border areas, most of western Pukraine would be "the grayzone".

All hard to say, shit is ramping up hard with Odessa and now a strike right near Romanian border. Add Wagner in Belarus and shit is about to go sideways 6 ways to Sunday.

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Ukraine should negotiate for peace deals

while they still hold some territories and a country

soon, they will own nothing to bargain with and about ffs
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Fuck nato
Fuck Ukraine
And fuck anyone that supports or fights for them
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If NATO ever fired on Russian ships, the whole US Navy would be sunk in a half-hour. Russia and China would sink every damn American boat ever built.
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If NATO ever fired on Russian ships, the whole US Navy would be sunk in a half-hour. Russia and China would sink every damn American boat ever built.
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china MAKES EQUIPMENT for the united states military now!!!! a SHIT TON OF IT. did you know that?!
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Re: Ukraine: Final escalation?
This won't be over until Russia takes Odessa.

( Which could happen after Zelenksy surrenders )


Poland can have the fukin scraps.

Ohyeah
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Arms shipments have always been carried out under the vail of humanitarian aid.
NATO cia are some ruthless sneaky bastards.
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When it’s real doom it won’t be broke by you pal. There is a fancy piece of protected AI running around. Rest your Brian. Look to him. Thinking a lot hurts your head. You don’t really know the balance of forces so why pretend?
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So NATO lied about grain ships and used them to haul in ammo and such? If true fuck them all. That is not good guys. Good will. Just being honest. If the grain was so important then that's what it should of been. Not underhanded lies. And we wonder why the world is as it is.
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Re: Ukraine: Final escalation?
Biden has already said he will not intervene in the Odessa blockade. Unless someone changed his mind?

Not finding that news article now. Maybe they Pulled it!

This article does cast doubt that the US would get involved.

Russia has mined the port.
Turkey will not allow any military ships to enter the black sea.


[link to news.usni.org (secure)]

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Fuck nato
Fuck Ukraine
And fuck anyone that supports or fights for them
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hey, take it ez...

they ban such talk around these parts
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Re: Ukraine: Final escalation?
Russian industrial might has been affected very seriously, its not that they don't want to make more tanks but they are running dangerously low on simple things like bearings, they are currently having to divert bearings away from train maintenance, if they don't maintain the trains, supply lines break down.

industrial output as been shown to be lower than pre war outputs, satellites show the air is much cleaner around the plants than would be expected.

it would appear that the sanctions imposed that affect the little things, are having a much bigger effect than freezing Bank accounts.

but sadly I think something big is on the horizon, will it be an all out war? Will it be Russians over throwing putin? who can say, but this is a very dangerous stalemate we are in, with a seriously set in his ways leader that people appear unable to speak the truth too, without getting shot for treason.

Good luck everyone x
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Russian industrial might has been affected very seriously, its not that they don't want to make more tanks but they are running dangerously low on simple things like bearings, they are currently having to divert bearings away from train maintenance, if they don't maintain the trains, supply lines break down.

industrial output as been shown to be lower than pre war outputs, satellites show the air is much cleaner around the plants than would be expected.

it would appear that the sanctions imposed that affect the little things, are having a much bigger effect than freezing Bank accounts.

but sadly I think something big is on the horizon, will it be an all out war? Will it be Russians over throwing putin? who can say, but this is a very dangerous stalemate we are in, with a seriously set in his ways leader that people appear unable to speak the truth too, without getting shot for treason.

Good luck everyone x
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probably just about time to release that weapon(s) that was manufactured in "research only" bio labs in Ukraine and blame the russians.
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Re: Ukraine: Final escalation?
nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. all of their talk about "30 countries are together" has been outed. they can't even coordinate between 4 or 5 countries in being strategic or planning on where to send things lol. it's time to admit a true. done . finished.

eastern regions of ukraine are russia's. it's over.
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MSM belive NATO is Winning?


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Biden has already said he will not intervene in the Odessa blockade. Unless someone changed his mind?
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Since when has anything he said been true?

However, I don't think NATO is stupid enough to escalate it that far.

They like the free supply of Ukrainian cannon fodder.

Ohyeah
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Ukraine Nazis offer a Final Solution?
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Re: Ukraine: Final escalation?
Biden has already said he will not intervene in the Odessa blockade. Unless someone changed his mind?
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Since when has anything he said been true?

However, I don't think NATO is stupid enough to escalate it that far.

They like the free supply of Ukrainian cannon fodder.

Ohyeah
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I looked and could not locate the news article. It might have been pulled.
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nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. .....
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Yes. NATO (the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) is ineffective against Russia

but Biden's new NATTO (the North Atlantic TransGender Treaty Organization)
will do better.

Joe plans to send an entire legion of Kamikaze TransGender Berserkers to Moscow.
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Biden has already said he will not intervene in the Odessa blockade. Unless someone changed his mind?
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Since when has anything he said been true?

However, I don't think NATO is stupid enough to escalate it that far.

They like the free supply of Ukrainian cannon fodder.

Ohyeah
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I looked and could not locate the news article. It might have been pulled.
 Quoting: JustmeTX



I'm surprised he said anything.

But then again, he shits in a diaper...

Bidendid
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nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. .....
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Yes. NATO (the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) is ineffective against Russia

but Biden's new NATTO (the North Atlantic TransGender Treaty Organization)
will do better.

Joe plans to send an entire legion of Kamikaze TransGender Berserkers to Moscow.
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I would support that!

Laugh
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Re: Ukraine: Final escalation?
Given Russia's successes to date, one has wonder how much longer till Putin is ready to take it directly to NATO





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