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Ukraine: Final escalation?

 
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nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. all of their talk about "30 countries are together" has been outed. they can't even coordinate between 4 or 5 countries in being strategic or planning on where to send things lol. it's time to admit a true. done . finished.

eastern regions of ukraine are russia's. it's over.
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Ah yes with something like 20x the GDP of Russia and 10x as much manufacturing capability. Also the closest NATO members have ever been.

LOL
Keep drinking the copium Ruskie
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If NATO ever fired on Russian ships, the whole US Navy would be sunk in a half-hour. Russia and China would sink every damn American boat ever built.
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You can tell you're not the brightest. Even Turkey could destroy the Russian black sea fleet, never mind the order of magnitude bigger NATO
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Known Russian disinfo site.

EVERYTHING at that site is anti-Western, pro-Kremlin
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Yeah, that's it! Let's kill another 26,000 Ukies!! OOORAH !!

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nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. all of their talk about "30 countries are together" has been outed. they can't even coordinate between 4 or 5 countries in being strategic or planning on where to send things lol. it's time to admit a true. done . finished.

eastern regions of ukraine are russia's. it's over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84659223


Ah yes with something like 20x the GDP of Russia and 10x as much manufacturing capability. Also the closest NATO members have ever been.

LOL
Keep drinking the copium Ruskie
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It would take years to build those factories, easier to just keep sending billions to the NATO weapons of the month club.
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Russia lacks one very important resource. There are only 147 million Russians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84971295


And yet, they have more SOLDIERS then the entire West combined.


Remember 300, the movie, about "how many warriors did you brought?"



The entire West doesn't have more SOLDIERS then Russia.



PERIOD.
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nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. all of their talk about "30 countries are together" has been outed. they can't even coordinate between 4 or 5 countries in being strategic or planning on where to send things lol. it's time to admit a true. done . finished.

eastern regions of ukraine are russia's. it's over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84659223


NATO should play for peace while they still have bargaining chips left to bargain with.

If they lose Syrian foothold
Iraq green zone
Libyan foothold

They are wiped out in the middle east.

US forward operating bases in Syria are already under intense pressure.

US has already lost Afghanistan, and the endless proxy wars have not only worn down the treasury, but also Academi and the other NATO merc groups.

The primary factor in peace deals is LEVERAGE.
If you have leverage you get a good deal.
If you have no leverage you get Germany post WW1.
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NATO (let's get real America) simply isn't willing to write 1000-2000 death notices a day to grieving relatives 5000 miles away in the continental USA.

Not gonna happen. Could you imagine that, the USA losing entire Vietnam war casualties every month? Not gonna happen.

They'd blow up a Ukrainian nuclear reactor or release a chemical or biological agent before they'd even consider it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79433675



1,000-2,000 / day is what Zelensky is writing...and Russia is NOT AT WAR with Ukraine.


They will be with the U.S.


So you can easily ad one more zero to the number of U.S. troops that will die per day.
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If NATO ever fired on Russian ships, the whole US Navy would be sunk in a half-hour. Russia and China would sink every damn American boat ever built.
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You can tell you're not the brightest. Even Turkey could destroy the Russian black sea fleet, never mind the order of magnitude bigger NATO
 Quoting: Crobble


So why don't they fucking do it then. I know why they don't. Do you?. Not the brightest are you.
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NATO (let's get real America) simply isn't willing to write 1000-2000 death notices a day to grieving relatives 5000 miles away in the continental USA.

Not gonna happen. Could you imagine that, the USA losing entire Vietnam war casualties every month? Not gonna happen.

They'd blow up a Ukrainian nuclear reactor or release a chemical or biological agent before they'd even consider it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79433675


The US sustained about 40,000 KIAs in 20 years of the Vietnam war. Russia is well past that already after 17 months of war in Ukraine and the killing is far from over. That’s not stopping them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86081257



Yeah, but they are RUSSIANS.


They lost 28 MILLION people in WW2. A QUARTER of their population in 4 years.



The Americans will capitulate after the first 10,000 U.S. troops dead...which will be in the first 24 hours.



If you believe that Americans = Russians....you're fucking stupid.
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Hopefully Boy that was close by...we where like during the iraq invasion on tv it looked weired but close by gives you bad mornings,not nights.
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Known Russian disinfo site.

EVERYTHING at that site is anti-Western, pro-Kremlin
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We’ve known that for a long time but mods here keep pinning threads that source it for Russian propaganda.
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nato is done. it has been shown they are NOT able to fully sustain against russia. .....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84659223


Yes. NATO (the North Atlantic Treaty Organization) is ineffective against Russia

but Biden's new NATTO (the North Atlantic TransGender Treaty Organization)
will do better.

Joe plans to send an entire legion of Kamikaze TransGender Berserkers to Moscow.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84293480



I would support that!

Laugh
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banana2banana2banana2rofl5
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NATO (let's get real America) simply isn't willing to write 1000-2000 death notices a day to grieving relatives 5000 miles away in the continental USA.

Not gonna happen. Could you imagine that, the USA losing entire Vietnam war casualties every month? Not gonna happen.

They'd blow up a Ukrainian nuclear reactor or release a chemical or biological agent before they'd even consider it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79433675


The US sustained about 40,000 KIAs in 20 years of the Vietnam war. Russia is well past that already after 17 months of war in Ukraine and the killing is far from over. That’s not stopping them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86081257



Yeah, but they are RUSSIANS.


They lost 28 MILLION people in WW2. A QUARTER of their population in 4 years.



The Americans will capitulate after the first 10,000 U.S. troops dead...which will be in the first 24 hours.



If you believe that Americans = Russians....you're fucking stupid.
 Quoting: Recollector


You’re right. They’re just Russian barbarians’ lives, worth only 1/20th of an America.

Is that your point?
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NATO (let's get real America) simply isn't willing to write 1000-2000 death notices a day to grieving relatives 5000 miles away in the continental USA.

Not gonna happen. Could you imagine that, the USA losing entire Vietnam war casualties every month? Not gonna happen.

They'd blow up a Ukrainian nuclear reactor or release a chemical or biological agent before they'd even consider it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79433675



1,000-2,000 / day is what Zelensky is writing...and Russia is NOT AT WAR with Ukraine.


They will be with the U.S.


So you can easily ad one more zero to the number of U.S. troops that will die per day.
 Quoting: Recollector


Show us where Zelensky wrote that they are losing 1,000 -2,000 lives per day of STFU you lame Russian troll.
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Known Russian disinfo site.

EVERYTHING at that site is anti-Western, pro-Kremlin
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We’ve known that for a long time but mods here keep pinning threads that source it for Russian propaganda.
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^^^ gets their news from CNN and MSNBC lol
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Russia lacks one very important resource. There are only 147 million Russians.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84971295


And yet, they have more SOLDIERS then the entire West combined.


Remember 300, the movie, about "how many warriors did you brought?"



The entire West doesn't have more SOLDIERS then Russia.



PERIOD.
 Quoting: Recollector


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Russian are know to wear t-shirts that say, "Im not white Im Russian".
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NATO (let's get real America) simply isn't willing to write 1000-2000 death notices a day to grieving relatives 5000 miles away in the continental USA.

Not gonna happen. Could you imagine that, the USA losing entire Vietnam war casualties every month? Not gonna happen.

They'd blow up a Ukrainian nuclear reactor or release a chemical or biological agent before they'd even consider it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79433675



1,000-2,000 / day is what Zelensky is writing...and Russia is NOT AT WAR with Ukraine.


They will be with the U.S.


So you can easily ad one more zero to the number of U.S. troops that will die per day.
 Quoting: Recollector


Show us where Zelensky wrote that they are losing 1,000 -2,000 lives per day of STFU you lame Russian troll.
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stfu and fuckoff2
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NATO (let's get real America) simply isn't willing to write 1000-2000 death notices a day to grieving relatives 5000 miles away in the continental USA.

Not gonna happen. Could you imagine that, the USA losing entire Vietnam war casualties every month? Not gonna happen.

They'd blow up a Ukrainian nuclear reactor or release a chemical or biological agent before they'd even consider it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79433675


The US sustained about 40,000 KIAs in 20 years of the Vietnam war. Russia is well past that already after 17 months of war in Ukraine and the killing is far from over. That’s not stopping them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86081257



Ukraine is armed with NATO high tech weapons and have received the best available military training. USA fought against rice farmers with AK-47 and RPGs in Vietnam. The numbers would have been totally different if Vietcong had advanced intelligence from satellites and drones, MLRS-systems, advanced artillery, missiles and suicide drones.
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Shill all you want Igor, but your glorious Russian army is sustaining KIAs at the rate of one 20 year Vietnam war each year.
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So are the Ukrainians, most likely even more! And when there are no more Ukrainians able to fight left, Americans will be sent to die and come back in bodybags, like in Vietnam.
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Final something
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The US sustained about 40,000 KIAs in 20 years of the Vietnam war. Russia is well past that already after 17 months of war in Ukraine and the killing is far from over. That’s not stopping them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86081257



Ukraine is armed with NATO high tech weapons and have received the best available military training. USA fought against rice farmers with AK-47 and RPGs in Vietnam. The numbers would have been totally different if Vietcong had advanced intelligence from satellites and drones, MLRS-systems, advanced artillery, missiles and suicide drones.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86111488


Shill all you want Igor, but your glorious Russian army is sustaining KIAs at the rate of one 20 year Vietnam war each year.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86081257




So are the Ukrainians, most likely even more! And when there are no more Ukrainians able to fight left, Americans will be sent to die and come back in bodybags, like in Vietnam.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86111488


Can't imagine drafting beta cucks, incels and ???genders would work out too well.

Draft cards would burn so fast there would be a disposable lighter shortage.
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and i meant "truce" not "true". since i cant edit my post -_-

also, russia has the MOST resources of ANY country on this planet. and once they ramp up into war time scenarios and manufacturing? rofl any country that is fighting it will not be able to keep up, and they can basically kiss their ass goodbye.

Look at the numbers. Even ALL the nato countries combined INCLUDING the u.s cannot match the resource generation of russia.

you aren't defeating russia. as much as the united states WANTS to..it ain't happening. they must admit there are other top dogs on this planet, or suffer a fall of their empire.
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US+Canada+Europe can match the resources...but manufacturing is in question

whatever
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Final something
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Warnews247 scoop just confirmed. Putin is taking the gloves off, mother of all battles will start, Ukraine is toast and glorious Russian victory in two weeks.

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and i meant "truce" not "true". since i cant edit my post -_-

also, russia has the MOST resources of ANY country on this planet. and once they ramp up into war time scenarios and manufacturing? rofl any country that is fighting it will not be able to keep up, and they can basically kiss their ass goodbye.

Look at the numbers. Even ALL the nato countries combined INCLUDING the u.s cannot match the resource generation of russia.

you aren't defeating russia. as much as the united states WANTS to..it ain't happening. they must admit there are other top dogs on this planet, or suffer a fall of their empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84659223


US+Canada+Europe can match the resources...but manufacturing is in question

whatever
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


The real question is, why in the fuck they would want to bankrupt themselves to get Ukraine into NATO.

You think NATO would have learned after the Afghanistan failure and endless taxpayer money poured into it.

Fuck that
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and i meant "truce" not "true". since i cant edit my post -_-

also, russia has the MOST resources of ANY country on this planet. and once they ramp up into war time scenarios and manufacturing? rofl any country that is fighting it will not be able to keep up, and they can basically kiss their ass goodbye.

Look at the numbers. Even ALL the nato countries combined INCLUDING the u.s cannot match the resource generation of russia.

you aren't defeating russia. as much as the united states WANTS to..it ain't happening. they must admit there are other top dogs on this planet, or suffer a fall of their empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84659223


US+Canada+Europe can match the resources...but manufacturing is in question

whatever
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


The real question is, why in the fuck they would want to bankrupt themselves to get Ukraine into NATO.

You think NATO would have learned after the Afghanistan failure and endless taxpayer money poured into it.

Fuck that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84477481


Because Ukraine, the most corrupt nation on the entire Planet, is where the Obamunists, Clintonistas, and Soros Group billionaires have been laundering money there for various reasons for a LONG time.
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and i meant "truce" not "true". since i cant edit my post -_-

also, russia has the MOST resources of ANY country on this planet. and once they ramp up into war time scenarios and manufacturing? rofl any country that is fighting it will not be able to keep up, and they can basically kiss their ass goodbye.

Look at the numbers. Even ALL the nato countries combined INCLUDING the u.s cannot match the resource generation of russia.

you aren't defeating russia. as much as the united states WANTS to..it ain't happening. they must admit there are other top dogs on this planet, or suffer a fall of their empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84659223


US+Canada+Europe can match the resources...but manufacturing is in question

whatever
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


The real question is, why in the fuck they would want to bankrupt themselves to get Ukraine into NATO.

You think NATO would have learned after the Afghanistan failure and endless taxpayer money poured into it.

Fuck that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84477481


Because Ukraine, the most corrupt nation on the entire Planet, is where the Obamunists, Clintonistas, and Soros Group billionaires have been laundering money there for various reasons for a LONG time.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Don't forget them Bidenites Romneyites and Pelosins


wtf
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and i meant "truce" not "true". since i cant edit my post -_-

also, russia has the MOST resources of ANY country on this planet. and once they ramp up into war time scenarios and manufacturing? rofl any country that is fighting it will not be able to keep up, and they can basically kiss their ass goodbye.

Look at the numbers. Even ALL the nato countries combined INCLUDING the u.s cannot match the resource generation of russia.

you aren't defeating russia. as much as the united states WANTS to..it ain't happening. they must admit there are other top dogs on this planet, or suffer a fall of their empire.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84659223


US+Canada+Europe can match the resources...but manufacturing is in question

whatever
 Quoting: Hugh G. Reckshon


The real question is, why in the fuck they would want to bankrupt themselves to get Ukraine into NATO.

You think NATO would have learned after the Afghanistan failure and endless taxpayer money poured into it.

Fuck that
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84477481


You're looking at it the wrong way.
War = profit (for the MIC)

It's the same as in pandemic = profit (for the Medical Industrial complex)

They probably have never made so much money ever.

The destruction of lives and buildings = more profits (for the reconstruction industry) and the banks which will purchase territory for pennies on the dollar.

Even the looming food shortages = MAGA profit for the big ag corporations. More than ever before in history likely.

And the middle classes will pay for it all as they are steadily depopulated.
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It's no secret that NATO have been using the port in Odessa to transfer arms and equipment using "grain ships". Russia figured this out and obliterated everything NATO had there, including the port. Russia then warned that ANY inbound ship that attempts to dock in Odessa or anywhere else in Ukraine will be considered a target, because it is impossible to determine if the ship legitimately is hauling grain or weapons and ammo.

As a result of the obliteration of NATO's footprint in Odessa, Zelenski has called an emergency meeting with NATO. NATO will discuss getting directly involved by escorting inbound ships to Ukraine, and potentially firing on Russian vessels that intervene. I think the probability is high that NATO will agree to try to break the Russian blockade. This could be the flash point that sparks world war. Russia isn't bluffing, so I see the potential of some ships sinking in the very near future. No navy in the world (thus far) can counter Russia's hypersonic anti-ship missiles.

NATO supposedly also ordered Ukraine to withdraw from the front lines, assumed to reinforce defenses in western regions. Russia and Belarus very recently discussed imminent war with Poland.

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 Quoting: Silicon Jock


All weapons are coming over land from Poland, hence Russia's retarded threats against Poland. It takes longer to ship than to fly. More retarded bullshit from Russia.





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