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A single pop Kh-47 Kinzhal hypersonic missile can cost US$10 million and above | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85118939  United States07/26/2023 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86121599  Australia07/26/2023 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder about costing analysis sometimes though. It could depend for example how much the engineers, scientists etc. expect to be paid during a protracted conflict where they identify as being under threat alongside the general population. In other words a wartime budget could see everyone modifying their demands if that's what it takes and therefore significantly lowering production costs, maybe to a perpetually sustainable level. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 70895026  United Kingdom07/26/2023 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80141991  Bahamas07/26/2023 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder about costing analysis sometimes though. It could depend for example how much the engineers, scientists etc. expect to be paid during a protracted conflict where they identify as being under threat alongside the general population. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86121599 In other words a wartime budget could see everyone modifying their demands if that's what it takes and therefore significantly lowering production costs, maybe to a perpetually sustainable level. Russia is not communist China, people get paid according to their abilities. And also the cost of many missiles is not due to people’s labor, but rather the technology of propelling extremely heavy objects at Mach 10 speed and the fuel expenses involved. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 80333394 Australia07/27/2023 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder about costing analysis sometimes though. It could depend for example how much the engineers, scientists etc. expect to be paid during a protracted conflict where they identify as being under threat alongside the general population. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86121599 In other words a wartime budget could see everyone modifying their demands if that's what it takes and therefore significantly lowering production costs, maybe to a perpetually sustainable level. Russia is not communist China, people get paid according to their abilities. And also the cost of many missiles is not due to people’s labor, but rather the technology of propelling extremely heavy objects at Mach 10 speed and the fuel expenses involved. People do personal business in China, there's Chinese billionaires but that's not the point I'm making. I'm saying that I doubt that the engineers etc are all gonna down tools if money were to get somewhat tighter for a time. |
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| pish Turtle Hermit  User ID: 80956893 United States07/27/2023 02:17 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Money and numbers are ALL Imaginary. Its like Poppy, or whatever makes you feel good.. totally illusionary... maybe a missile costs 10 MILL... OR MAYBE IT COSTS NOTHING... You think this is real? Get back to me... Always remember these words: Work hard, study well, and eat and sleep plenty! That is the Turtle Hermit way! We must master the art of peace in addition to the art of war! |
| Flying Elvii User ID: 84802739 United States07/27/2023 02:32 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder about costing analysis sometimes though. It could depend for example how much the engineers, scientists etc. expect to be paid during a protracted conflict where they identify as being under threat alongside the general population. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86121599 In other words a wartime budget could see everyone modifying their demands if that's what it takes and therefore significantly lowering production costs, maybe to a perpetually sustainable level. Khinzal went into mass production in late 2021. It’s brother with shorter range but a much bigger boom, the Zircon, went into mass production last month. These are not cheap Missiles, but they would be north of $75-100 million dollars each if built in the US. The scramjet engine is not complicated, but it takes a lot of titanium alloys that the Russians have an abundance of, that we don’t. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 53835080 United States07/27/2023 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder about costing analysis sometimes though. It could depend for example how much the engineers, scientists etc. expect to be paid during a protracted conflict where they identify as being under threat alongside the general population. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86121599 In other words a wartime budget could see everyone modifying their demands if that's what it takes and therefore significantly lowering production costs, maybe to a perpetually sustainable level. Russia is not communist China, people get paid according to their abilities. And also the cost of many missiles is not due to people’s labor, but rather the technology of propelling extremely heavy objects at Mach 10 speed and the fuel expenses involved. Russia dumped communism decades ago, but the numbskulls of the Satanic West still have this vision of the big bad USSR, the boogeyman we need to destroy. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85634732 United States07/27/2023 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nor are they imaginary when you could very well be spending this kind of money protecting and improving this county instead. I mean, up until 3 years ago, who in the US even knew where Ukraine was on the map? It's all a big money making scam. And why should a missile cost millions? The US uses over 80 different private companies in the US to buy its armaments from. Why? Why do we need so much stuff? If you do an inflation-adjusted, net present value analysis on the cost of all wars the US has been in, it will literally break your calculator... Not enough digits to do the addition... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85253095 United Kingdom07/27/2023 07:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86123357 Australia07/27/2023 07:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder about costing analysis sometimes though. It could depend for example how much the engineers, scientists etc. expect to be paid during a protracted conflict where they identify as being under threat alongside the general population. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86121599 In other words a wartime budget could see everyone modifying their demands if that's what it takes and therefore significantly lowering production costs, maybe to a perpetually sustainable level. If ya got plenty and more coming might as well fire a couple . |
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| Snuffielover User ID: 85807204  Norway07/27/2023 08:10 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If whatever the missile takes out is worth more then the missile, then the cost-benefit calculations are favorable. Simple as that. If any foreign minister begins to defend to the death a "peace conference," you can be sure his government has already placed its orders for new battleships and aeroplanes. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83239478 United States07/27/2023 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't be so sure about that skippy. Why? Is it because of the shit tech we use against desert men that basically still throw stones? I mean really now, come on. Crawl from under those turnips. There is a wonderful thing called propaganda, and you have been suckered if you think the U.S. cannot stop those hypersonics. ICBMs are much, much harder....... What we show, the media writes about and what we really have are two different things. Our tech layers are much deeper, more robust in reality. We are a true Super Power, the World's Only Super Power. That is why you hate us so much. We buy your women (mail order), and your people will kill each other for a chance to live here. The piss in the bucket poor live better here than the middle class in most countries. You think you have something better than us; you think you can destroy us. Well, keep shitting in your holes and crawling in them. It aint happening. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73735549 United States07/27/2023 08:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73095336 United States07/27/2023 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't be so sure about that skippy. Why? Is it because of the shit tech we use against desert men that basically still throw stones? I mean really now, come on. Crawl from under those turnips. There is a wonderful thing called propaganda, and you have been suckered if you think the U.S. cannot stop those hypersonics. ICBMs are much, much harder....... What we show, the media writes about and what we really have are two different things. Our tech layers are much deeper, more robust in reality. We are a true Super Power, the World's Only Super Power. That is why you hate us so much. We buy your women (mail order), and your people will kill each other for a chance to live here. The piss in the bucket poor live better here than the middle class in most countries. You think you have something better than us; you think you can destroy us. Well, keep shitting in your holes and crawling in them. It aint happening. You need to smoke more crack.  |
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| Phillip J. Fry User ID: 85483879 United States07/27/2023 08:46 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to news.yahoo.com (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85118939 Details: At night, the Russians fired at Ukraine: six Kinzhal aerial ballistic missiles; nine Kalibr cruise missiles; three ballistic/anti-aircraft missiles (type to be specified); six Iranian-made Shahed-136/131 attack UAVs; three Orlan and SuperCam UAVs. According to Forbes, a Kalibr cruise missile costs US$6.5 million, bringing the total cost of the missiles fired at night to US$58.5 million. A Kh-47 Kinzhal hypersonic missile can cost US$10 million and above, with the total cost of six launches being US$60 million. Iranian-made Shahed-136/131 attack drones, according to information from open sources, cost from US$20,000 to US$50,000 per unit. In total, six such UAVs cost US$280,000. According to the General Staff, a Russian Orlan-10 drone costs US$100,000. There is no data on the price of a SuperCam drone in open sources, so we can assume that it is close to the price of the Orlan-10 UAV. Thus, three drones cost US$300,000. Therefore, in total, the missiles and drones fired at Ukraine on the night of 15-16 May cost US$119.08 million. So Russia sent Ukraine $119.08 million in military weapons. . "Don't do anything that affects anything. Unless it turns out you were supposed to do it, in which case for the love of God. Don't not do it!" |
