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President Putin is worried about a revolution in Russia, tells people that Russia has already reached its "limit of revolting" last century

 
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President Putin is worried about a revolution in Russia, tells people that Russia has already reached its "limit of revolting" last century
On Wednesday, Russian President Vladimir Putin continued "to display his knowledge of Russian history at odd moments, this time appearing to warn against the possibility of revolution in Russia," the Institute for the Study of War reported in an update.

Responding to the mention of a recent mayovka event at a meeting, Putin offered insight into where his thoughts are these days.

The term mayovka has been linked to both innocent springtime activities and revolutionary dissidents, and Putin seemed to zero in on the latter, expressing a desire to avoid a revolution.

Noting that the name "worried" him, he said that he hoped events like this wouldn't "lead to a revolution," per a RBC report.

"The limit on revolutions in our country has already been exhausted in the last century," said Putin, referring to a timeframe which includes the collapse of the Soviet Union, a significant development he has called the 20th century's "greatest geopolitical tragedy."

At one point, for instance, he argued that a 17th century map proved Ukraine hasn't historically existed. He missed the word "Ukraine" clearly marked on it.

This aspect of his character has also been visible in his revisionist justifications for the war in Ukraine, the Kremlin's comparisons of the battles for Bakhmut and Stalingrad, and more recently, his observations about how the Wagner mutiny echoed the revolution in 1917.

"This is a stab in the back of our country and our people," Putin said on June 24 after his longtime ally Yevgeny Prigozhin launched an armed mutiny against the ministry of defense.

"Such a blow was dealt to Russia in 1917, when the country was waging the First World War," Putin said, "but victory was stolen from it."

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he's not afraid of NATO, he is afraid of his own people revolting


"It’s not NATO expansion that concerns Putin, but what an alliance of largely democratic nations may bring with it: the prospect of “colour revolutions”, in which populations seek to wrest control from the hands of corrupt dictators.

By invading Ukraine, Putin has actually succeeded in enlarging NATO further, with Finland and Sweden joining the alliance. He has prompted Germany and other overdependent European states to wean themselves off Russian oil and gas. And he’s ensured Russia will remain a Western pariah for the foreseeable future, while bequeathing Russia’s next generation the lasting hatred of Ukrainians.

Russia now faces an uncertain future. Instead of Putin’s vision of a Euro-Pacific great power, it seems destined to be little more than a nuclear-armed raw materials appendage of China.

Even worse for Putin, his rule now looks increasingly tenuous. His failures in Ukraine have proven impossible for Russia’s compliant state media to fashion into a story of triumph.

Putin’s response to Yevgeny Prigozhin’s dramatic mutiny in June added to the perception of weakness. It initially took him several hours to appear in an emergency broadcast, in which he spoke of a potential civil war and promised to liquidate the Wagner traitors.

But once a hasty deal with Prigozhin was struck, that strong statement was walked back only hours later by Putin’s press secretary, who was forced to paint the Wagner forces simultaneously as both heroes and enemies of the state.

Later, in an address to Russian soldiers, Putin thanked the military for saving Russia, even though it hadn’t confronted the revolt.

The equally apathetic response by the general public (indeed, nobody tried to lie down in front of a Wagner tank to protect Putin) was also telling. So, too, was the fact Wagner operatives were able to escape the mutiny unpunished, while ordinary citizens face jail terms for even short silent protests.

Putin’s Russia is starting to look like Tsarist Russia: a state that collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions, as British historian Orlando Figes put it. Russia in 2023 now looks even more fractured than it did when Putin took over, ostensibly to save it from turmoil.

Perhaps the greatest irony of Putin’s near-quarter century at the helm, then, is that he has come to personify the chaos he has long professed to abhor.

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he's not afraid of NATO, he is afraid of his own people revolting


"It’s not NATO expansion that concerns Putin, but what an alliance of largely democratic nations may bring with it: the prospect of “colour revolutions”, in which populations seek to wrest control from the hands of corrupt dictators.

By invading Ukraine, Putin has actually succeeded in enlarging NATO further, with Finland and Sweden joining the alliance. He has prompted Germany and other overdependent European states to wean themselves off Russian oil and gas. And he’s ensured Russia will remain a Western pariah for the foreseeable future, while bequeathing Russia’s next generation the lasting hatred of Ukrainians.

Russia now faces an uncertain future. Instead of Putin’s vision of a Euro-Pacific great power, it seems destined to be little more than a nuclear-armed raw materials appendage of China.

Even worse for Putin, his rule now looks increasingly tenuous. His failures in Ukraine have proven impossible for Russia’s compliant state media to fashion into a story of triumph.

Putin’s response to Yevgeny Prigozhin’s dramatic mutiny in June added to the perception of weakness. It initially took him several hours to appear in an emergency broadcast, in which he spoke of a potential civil war and promised to liquidate the Wagner traitors.

But once a hasty deal with Prigozhin was struck, that strong statement was walked back only hours later by Putin’s press secretary, who was forced to paint the Wagner forces simultaneously as both heroes and enemies of the state.

Later, in an address to Russian soldiers, Putin thanked the military for saving Russia, even though it hadn’t confronted the revolt.

The equally apathetic response by the general public (indeed, nobody tried to lie down in front of a Wagner tank to protect Putin) was also telling. So, too, was the fact Wagner operatives were able to escape the mutiny unpunished, while ordinary citizens face jail terms for even short silent protests.

Putin’s Russia is starting to look like Tsarist Russia: a state that collapsed under the weight of its own contradictions, as British historian Orlando Figes put it. Russia in 2023 now looks even more fractured than it did when Putin took over, ostensibly to save it from turmoil.

Perhaps the greatest irony of Putin’s near-quarter century at the helm, then, is that he has come to personify the chaos he has long professed to abhor.

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do you believe that? coz it says that President Putin and Russia want to genocide the J people, obviously Russia is copying off the Nazis. but it also says that the J people already left Ukraine 1200 years ago! So the Nazi Russian Genocide of the J people is attacking the wrong country! wow Russia is so bad at geography!
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The Free Nations of Post-Russia Forum is an organization that is planning color revolutions all across the Russian Federation. They want to decolonize, de-occupy, decentralize, de-Putinize, denazify and demilitarize Russia. And they want to get independence and derussify their countries. Russia has declared them to be an "undesirable organization".


"The Free Nations of Post-Russia Forum (FNRF or FSNR; Russian: romanized: Forum svobodnykh narodov Post-Rossii) is a forum founded by opposition activists, regional and separatist movements in Russia, as well as foreign sympathizers, which advocates for the disintegration of the Russian Federation. It was registered in Poland.

According to its own statements, the forum aims to fight for the "decolonization, de-occupation, decentralization, de-Putinization, denazification and demilitarisation of Russia". Some Proposed States also Include Derussification.

On 17 March 2023, the forum was designated an "undesirable organization" in Russia.

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