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Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 09:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immediately before the famine prophesied in Amos 8:11, God says He will make the sun go down at noon and will darken the earth in broad daylight. And it shall come to pass in that day,” says the Lord God, “That I will make the sun go down at noon, And I will darken the earth in broad daylight; Amos 8:9 He then goes on to describe what He will do to all who are left behind in the 7-year Tribulation especially in regard to Israel. I will turn your feasts into mourning, And all your songs into lamentation; I will bring sackcloth on every waist, And baldness on every head; I will make it like mourning for an only son, And its end like a bitter day. Amos 8:10 The sun going down at noon and the earth darkening in broad daylight is not physical but spiritual and is in reference to the falling away spiritually in the last days of this age of grace. The sun going down is a terrible, spiritual darkness that has consumed this planet. This spiritual darkness contains three attributes- The Satanic Bible rewrites The famine for hearing God's words The time where no man can work which is the 7-year Tribulation We are not in the 7-year Tribulation but the Bible changes which have been allowed by the unsealing of scripture tells us how little or no time may be left. Due to the Bible changes, the light of the Gospel is rapidly decaying and the true light which is Jesus Christ is being replaced with fake religion and apostasy. Jesus is the light of the world and His words a light under our path. The sun prematurely setting and the earth being darkened in broad daylight is metaphorical and symbolic of Jesus and His grace exiting and judgment on unbelievers commencing in the 7-year Tribulation. Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.” John 8:12 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105 Then Jesus cried out, "Whoever walks in the dark does not know where they are going. Believe in the light while you have the light, so that you may become children of light. Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.” -Jesus Christ |
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Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And He saith to me: Seal not the words of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. Revelation 22:10 The word "seal" above is 4972 in Greek and it means- to stamp for security or preservation, for security: from Satan What we're being told in Revelation 22:10 is the word of the Bible will no longer remain secure from Satan in the last days. What does time at hand reference? The last days confirming that time is right now. What does "seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book mean? That in the last days, the Bible will no longer be secure from Satan. And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. Daniel 12:9-10 |
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Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation period. Quoting: neverfear ![]() Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 Last Edited by Seek^ on 09/04/2023 09:59 AM |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immediately before the famine prophesied in Amos 8:11, God says He will make the sun go down at noon and will darken the earth in broad daylight. Quoting: Seek^ And it shall come to pass in that day,” says the Lord God, “That I will make the sun go down at noon, And I will darken the earth in broad daylight; Amos 8:9 He then goes on to describe what He will do to all who are left behind in the 7-year Tribulation especially in regard to Israel. I will turn your feasts into mourning, And all your songs into lamentation; I will bring sackcloth on every waist, And baldness on every head; I will make it like mourning for an only son, And its end like a bitter day. Amos 8:10 The sun going down at noon and the earth darkening in broad daylight is not physical but spiritual and is in reference to the falling away spiritually in the last days of this age of grace. The sun going down is a terrible, spiritual darkness that has consumed this planet. This spiritual darkness contains three attributes- The Satanic Bible rewrites The famine for hearing God's words The time where no man can work which is the 7-year Tribulation We are not in the 7-year Tribulation but the Bible changes which have been allowed by the unsealing of scripture tells us how little or no time may be left. Due to the Bible changes, the light of the Gospel is rapidly decaying and the true light which is Jesus Christ is being replaced with fake religion and apostasy. Jesus is the light of the world and His words a light under our path. The sun prematurely setting and the earth being darkened in broad daylight is metaphorical and symbolic of Jesus and His grace exiting and judgment on unbelievers commencing in the 7-year Tribulation. Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.” John 8:12 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105 Then Jesus cried out, "Whoever walks in the dark does not know where they are going. Believe in the light while you have the light, so that you may become children of light. Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.” -Jesus Christ Read the first part of Amos 8, that gives the time when Amos 8 would be fulfilled. It WAS fulfilled when the END came upon those people in the middle east and MANY dead bodies were cast forth from the ground. 2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. 3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord God: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence. Last Edited by MindWideOpen on 09/04/2023 10:00 AM Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation period. Quoting: neverfear ![]() Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immediately before the famine prophesied in Amos 8:11, God says He will make the sun go down at noon and will darken the earth in broad daylight. Quoting: Seek^ And it shall come to pass in that day,” says the Lord God, “That I will make the sun go down at noon, And I will darken the earth in broad daylight; Amos 8:9 He then goes on to describe what He will do to all who are left behind in the 7-year Tribulation especially in regard to Israel. I will turn your feasts into mourning, And all your songs into lamentation; I will bring sackcloth on every waist, And baldness on every head; I will make it like mourning for an only son, And its end like a bitter day. Amos 8:10 The sun going down at noon and the earth darkening in broad daylight is not physical but spiritual and is in reference to the falling away spiritually in the last days of this age of grace. The sun going down is a terrible, spiritual darkness that has consumed this planet. This spiritual darkness contains three attributes- The Satanic Bible rewrites The famine for hearing God's words The time where no man can work which is the 7-year Tribulation We are not in the 7-year Tribulation but the Bible changes which have been allowed by the unsealing of scripture tells us how little or no time may be left. Due to the Bible changes, the light of the Gospel is rapidly decaying and the true light which is Jesus Christ is being replaced with fake religion and apostasy. Jesus is the light of the world and His words a light under our path. The sun prematurely setting and the earth being darkened in broad daylight is metaphorical and symbolic of Jesus and His grace exiting and judgment on unbelievers commencing in the 7-year Tribulation. Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.” John 8:12 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105 Then Jesus cried out, "Whoever walks in the dark does not know where they are going. Believe in the light while you have the light, so that you may become children of light. Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.” -Jesus Christ Read the first part of Amos 8, that gives the time when Amos 8 would be fulfilled. It WAS fulfilled when the END came upon those people in the middle east and MANY dead bodies were cast forth from the ground. 2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. 3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord God: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence. No, your misinterpretation is confirmed above with “in that day”. That “day” is the the day of Christ in judgment and this time period has not yet been fulfilled. as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 |
Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation period. Quoting: neverfear ![]() Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. No, it’s not. It’s talking about the Antichrist and the covenant he will make with Israel which he will break midway through the 7-year Tribulation when He is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes bodily control of the Antichrist. He hasn’t made this covenant yet because the first seal of the seven seals of judgment has not yet been opened. |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immediately before the famine prophesied in Amos 8:11, God says He will make the sun go down at noon and will darken the earth in broad daylight. Quoting: Seek^ And it shall come to pass in that day,” says the Lord God, “That I will make the sun go down at noon, And I will darken the earth in broad daylight; Amos 8:9 He then goes on to describe what He will do to all who are left behind in the 7-year Tribulation especially in regard to Israel. I will turn your feasts into mourning, And all your songs into lamentation; I will bring sackcloth on every waist, And baldness on every head; I will make it like mourning for an only son, And its end like a bitter day. Amos 8:10 The sun going down at noon and the earth darkening in broad daylight is not physical but spiritual and is in reference to the falling away spiritually in the last days of this age of grace. The sun going down is a terrible, spiritual darkness that has consumed this planet. This spiritual darkness contains three attributes- The Satanic Bible rewrites The famine for hearing God's words The time where no man can work which is the 7-year Tribulation We are not in the 7-year Tribulation but the Bible changes which have been allowed by the unsealing of scripture tells us how little or no time may be left. Due to the Bible changes, the light of the Gospel is rapidly decaying and the true light which is Jesus Christ is being replaced with fake religion and apostasy. Jesus is the light of the world and His words a light under our path. The sun prematurely setting and the earth being darkened in broad daylight is metaphorical and symbolic of Jesus and His grace exiting and judgment on unbelievers commencing in the 7-year Tribulation. Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.” John 8:12 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105 Then Jesus cried out, "Whoever walks in the dark does not know where they are going. Believe in the light while you have the light, so that you may become children of light. Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.” -Jesus Christ Read the first part of Amos 8, that gives the time when Amos 8 would be fulfilled. It WAS fulfilled when the END came upon those people in the middle east and MANY dead bodies were cast forth from the ground. 2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. 3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord God: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence. No, your misinterpretation is confirmed above with “in that day”. That “day” is the the day of Christ in judgment and this time period has not yet been fulfilled. as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 I can not understand how someone can read Amos 8 and not see that as a prophecy of Jesus coming and taking the kingdom from those wicked servants that used to have. The passage even tells us that it would happen when MANY dead bodies would be raised and it's confirmed have happened in Matthew with almost the exact same language. Matthew 27 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation period. Quoting: neverfear ![]() Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. No, it’s not. It’s talking about the Antichrist and the covenant he will make with Israel which he will break midway through the 7-year Tribulation when He is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes bodily control of the Antichrist. He hasn’t made this covenant yet because the first seal of the seven seals of judgment has not yet been opened. When someone CONFIRMS a covenant, that means the covenant was already in existence. Do you not know what CONFIRM means? Seriously, not being rude. What do you think CONFIRMATION means? Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80664001 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seek^ Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. No, it’s not. It’s talking about the Antichrist and the covenant he will make with Israel which he will break midway through the 7-year Tribulation when He is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes bodily control of the Antichrist. He hasn’t made this covenant yet because the first seal of the seven seals of judgment has not yet been opened. When someone CONFIRMS a covenant, that means the covenant was already in existence. Do you not know what CONFIRM means? Seriously, not being rude. What do you think CONFIRMATION means? it's dispensational dummy (sarc) It's prophetical, so THAT covenant was still future. You gotta learn the dance steps better. |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: MindWideOpen What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. No, it’s not. It’s talking about the Antichrist and the covenant he will make with Israel which he will break midway through the 7-year Tribulation when He is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes bodily control of the Antichrist. He hasn’t made this covenant yet because the first seal of the seven seals of judgment has not yet been opened. When someone CONFIRMS a covenant, that means the covenant was already in existence. Do you not know what CONFIRM means? Seriously, not being rude. What do you think CONFIRMATION means? it's dispensational dummy (sarc) It's prophetical, so THAT covenant was still future. You gotta learn the dance steps better. Oh I know, I used to be in that cult. Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
John The Fiery Baptist User ID: 86266737 ![]() 09/04/2023 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was the I cometh to raptured your sorrowful butthurt false prophecies garment like a thief at night online.. ![]() The north wind brings forth the rain, and a sorrowful face brings forth a detracting tongue. It is better to sit in a corner of the attic, than with an argumentative woman and in a shared house. Like cold water to a thirsty soul, so too are good reports from a far away land. The just falling down before the impious is like a fountain stirred up by feet and like a corrupted spring. Just as whoever eats too much honey, it is not good for him, so also whoever is an investigator of what is majestic will be overwhelmed by glory. Just like a city lying in the open and without surrounding walls, so also is a man who is unable to restrain his own spirit in speaking. - Proverbs 25:23-28 |
neverfear User ID: 86240287 ![]() 09/04/2023 11:18 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation period. Quoting: neverfear ![]() Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 Excuse me!?!? You had better read this, your eternal salvation depends on it; Thread: Who Confirmed The Covenant? live and let die |
neverfear User ID: 86240287 ![]() 09/04/2023 11:20 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation period. Quoting: neverfear ![]() Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. No, it’s not. It’s talking about the Antichrist and the covenant he will make with Israel which he will break midway through the 7-year Tribulation when He is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes bodily control of the Antichrist. He hasn’t made this covenant yet because the first seal of the seven seals of judgment has not yet been opened. Thread: Who Confirmed The Covenant? live and let die |
neverfear User ID: 86240287 ![]() 09/04/2023 11:33 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation period. Quoting: neverfear ![]() Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. No, it’s not. It’s talking about the Antichrist and the covenant he will make with Israel which he will break midway through the 7-year Tribulation when He is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes bodily control of the Antichrist. He hasn’t made this covenant yet because the first seal of the seven seals of judgment has not yet been opened. Another way to approach this is to reverse the perspective. Does the Antichrist “finish the transgression?” Of course not. Can it be said that the Beast is the one who will “make an end of sins?” Obviously not. Does the Son of Perdition “make reconciliation for iniquity?” The answer is self-evident. Does the wicked one “seal up the vision and prophecy?” He does not. And does the Antichrist “anoint the most holy?” Of course not. The focal point of the entire prophecy is JESUS CHRIST. live and let die |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immediately before the famine prophesied in Amos 8:11, God says He will make the sun go down at noon and will darken the earth in broad daylight. Quoting: Seek^ And it shall come to pass in that day,” says the Lord God, “That I will make the sun go down at noon, And I will darken the earth in broad daylight; Matthew 27 45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour 46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? The sixth hour is noon in (J)who-ish time keeping. Last Edited by MindWideOpen on 09/04/2023 11:45 AM Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revelation 22:10 tells us of a time coming when scripture would no longer be protected. The very last warning in the Bible in Revelation 22:18 is the warning about changes to the Bible and then we have the end of this age with Jesus coming in judgment. Quoting: Seek^ And He saith to me: Seal not the words of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand. Revelation 22:10 The word "seal" above is 4972 in Greek and it means- to stamp for security or preservation, for security: from Satan I don't know where this teaching comes from but it is as wrong as wrong can be. "Seal not the words" means don't make them SECRET, it means that everyone who reads them can understand what they mean. sfrag-id'-zo; from G4973; to stamp (with a signet or private mark) for security or preservation (literally or figuratively); by implication, to keep secret, to attest:—(set a, set to) seal up, stop. The contrast to "Seal not the words" is Daniel where Daniel is told to SEAL UP the words so that no one could understand them until the appointed time. Last Edited by MindWideOpen on 09/04/2023 12:23 PM Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 02:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Immediately before the famine prophesied in Amos 8:11, God says He will make the sun go down at noon and will darken the earth in broad daylight. Quoting: Seek^ And it shall come to pass in that day,” says the Lord God, “That I will make the sun go down at noon, And I will darken the earth in broad daylight; Amos 8:9 He then goes on to describe what He will do to all who are left behind in the 7-year Tribulation especially in regard to Israel. I will turn your feasts into mourning, And all your songs into lamentation; I will bring sackcloth on every waist, And baldness on every head; I will make it like mourning for an only son, And its end like a bitter day. Amos 8:10 The sun going down at noon and the earth darkening in broad daylight is not physical but spiritual and is in reference to the falling away spiritually in the last days of this age of grace. The sun going down is a terrible, spiritual darkness that has consumed this planet. This spiritual darkness contains three attributes- The Satanic Bible rewrites The famine for hearing God's words The time where no man can work which is the 7-year Tribulation We are not in the 7-year Tribulation but the Bible changes which have been allowed by the unsealing of scripture tells us how little or no time may be left. Due to the Bible changes, the light of the Gospel is rapidly decaying and the true light which is Jesus Christ is being replaced with fake religion and apostasy. Jesus is the light of the world and His words a light under our path. The sun prematurely setting and the earth being darkened in broad daylight is metaphorical and symbolic of Jesus and His grace exiting and judgment on unbelievers commencing in the 7-year Tribulation. Then Jesus spoke to them again, saying, “I am the light of the world. He who follows Me shall not walk in darkness, but have the light of life.” John 8:12 Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. Psalm 119:105 Then Jesus cried out, "Whoever walks in the dark does not know where they are going. Believe in the light while you have the light, so that you may become children of light. Whoever believes in me does not believe in me only, but in the one who sent me. The one who looks at me is seeing the one who sent me. I have come into the world as a light, so that no one who believes in me should stay in darkness.” -Jesus Christ Read the first part of Amos 8, that gives the time when Amos 8 would be fulfilled. It WAS fulfilled when the END came upon those people in the middle east and MANY dead bodies were cast forth from the ground. 2 And he said, Amos, what seest thou? And I said, A basket of summer fruit. Then said the Lord unto me, The end is come upon my people of Israel; I will not again pass by them any more. 3 And the songs of the temple shall be howlings in that day, saith the Lord God: there shall be many dead bodies in every place; they shall cast them forth with silence. No, your misinterpretation is confirmed above with “in that day”. That “day” is the the day of Christ in judgment and this time period has not yet been fulfilled. as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God. 2 Thessalonians 2:2-4 I can not understand how someone can read Amos 8 and not see that as a prophecy of Jesus coming and taking the kingdom from those wicked servants that used to have. The passage even tells us that it would happen when MANY dead bodies would be raised and it's confirmed have happened in Matthew with almost the exact same language. Matthew 27 52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, 53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many. It's called cross-referencing and research, not taking out of context a scripture passage and erasing the entire future 7-year Tribulation period of judgment because you've misinterpreted one scripture. The KJV has been most attacked by Satan and one example is the mocking of God by making lower-case every pronoun referencing God. The residue of how the scripture used to read is still evident in other translations such as the New King James but that too could change overnight at the rate these changes are taking place. For example, the restrainer who is the Holy Spirit has always been capitalized below in the KJV until recent. The purposeful spelling errors and use of colons and semicolons are abysmal to read as well. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 2 Thessalonians 2:7 (KJV) For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 2 Thessalonians 2:7 (NKJV) Him, My, or He is no longer capitalized in the KJV when in reference to God. Other translation such as the NKJV still capitalize references to God but as mentioned, this too could change at anytime. I point this out because "he" in Daniel 9:27 has never been capitalized in any translation ever and this alone tells you this isn't in reference to Jesus Christ. Basic study will also confirm this fact as well. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] |
MindWideOpen User ID: 85476327 ![]() 09/04/2023 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's called cross-referencing and research, not taking out of context a scripture passage and erasing the entire future 7-year Tribulation period of judgment because you've misinterpreted one scripture. Quoting: Seek^ The KJV has been most attacked by Satan and one example is the mocking of God by making lower-case every pronoun referencing God. The residue of how the scripture used to read is still evident in other translations such as the New King James but that too could change overnight at the rate these changes are taking place. For example, the restrainer who is the Holy Spirit has always been capitalized below in the KJV until recent. The purposeful spelling errors and use of colons and semicolons are abysmal to read as well. For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 2 Thessalonians 2:7 (KJV) For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. 2 Thessalonians 2:7 (NKJV) Him, My, or He is no longer capitalized in the KJV when in reference to God. Other translation such as the NKJV still capitalize references to God but as mentioned, this too could change at anytime. I point this out because "he" in Daniel 9:27 has never been capitalized in any translation ever and this alone tells you this isn't in reference to Jesus Christ. Basic study will also confirm this fact as well. [link to biblehub.com (secure)] What other verse in the bible confirms the 7 year tribulation? Christians comfort one another with this - John 11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this? |
Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Paul tells us plainly that Jesus CONFIRMED the covenant God made with Abraham. Quoting: MindWideOpen Galatians 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. He does tell us plainly and that covenant has nothing to do with the future covenant Antichrist will make with Israel during the 7-year Tribulation which he breaks midway through Daniel's 70th week. We only have 69 weeks of Daniel's 70 week prophecy accounted for leaving us one 7-year period (week) to be fulfilled "to finish the transgression, to make an end of sins, to make reconciliation for iniquity, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy, and to anoint the Most Holy.”. The latter half of this time period is known as Jacob's trouble and again, this judgment has yet to take place. “Seventy weeks are determined For your people and for your holy city, To finish the transgression, To make an end of sins, To make reconciliation for iniquity, To bring in everlasting righteousness, To seal up vision and prophecy, And to anoint the Most Holy. Daniel 9:24 |
Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 03:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is not a single verse in the Bible that supports a 7 year tribulation period. Quoting: neverfear ![]() Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 Excuse me!?!? You had better read this, your eternal salvation depends on it; Thread: Who Confirmed The Covenant? No, you're not excused. A simple check of "he" and understanding that it's never never been capitalized ever in any translation of Daniel 9:27 will clarify this isn't in reference to Jesus Christ but rather the Antichrist. I've already clarified this for you in this very thread. If this was Jesus Christ, "he" would have been capitalized. Case closed friend, you people who deny a 7-year Tribulation off of one verse are highly deceived, the most deceived. Eternal salvation may depend on it? I urge you to read the Bible and the nearly 20% of it that warns about this future 7-year period and stop being deceived by podcasts on YouTube, it's sick. Scripture reveals itself through other scripture so grave mistakes like your misinterpretation above can be avoided. |
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Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 03:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seek^ Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. No, it’s not. It’s talking about the Antichrist and the covenant he will make with Israel which he will break midway through the 7-year Tribulation when He is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes bodily control of the Antichrist. He hasn’t made this covenant yet because the first seal of the seven seals of judgment has not yet been opened. Another way to approach this is to reverse the perspective. Does the Antichrist “finish the transgression?” Of course not. Can it be said that the Beast is the one who will “make an end of sins?” Obviously not. Does the Son of Perdition “make reconciliation for iniquity?” The answer is self-evident. Does the wicked one “seal up the vision and prophecy?” He does not. And does the Antichrist “anoint the most holy?” Of course not. The focal point of the entire prophecy is JESUS CHRIST. Agreed that Jesus Christ is the focal point and God uses Satan to accomplish what you've stated above. I hope the below is made clear for you in simple terms. In Daniel 9:25 and 26, the Messiah will be cut off after “seven sevens and sixty-two sevens” (69 total sevens), beginning with the decree to rebuild Jerusalem. In other words, 69 sevens (483 years) after the decree to rebuild is issued, the Messiah will die. Biblical historians confirm that 483 years passed from the time of the decree to rebuild Jerusalem to the time when Jesus was crucified. Most Christian scholars, regardless of their view of eschatology, have the above understanding of Daniel’s 70 sevens. God said that 70 weeks had been determined (490 years), but, with the death of the Messiah, we only have 69 weeks accounted for (483 years). This leaves one seven-year period to be fulfilled “to finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and to anoint the most holy” (Daniel 9:24). This final seven-year period is what we call the tribulation—the time when God finishes judging Israel and brings them back to Himself. Daniel 9:27 gives a few highlights of the final week, the seven-year tribulation period: “[A ruler] will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on a wing of the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.” Jesus refers to this passage in Matthew 24:15. The ruler who confirms the covenant and then sets up the abomination is called “the beast” in Revelation 13. According to Daniel 9:27, the beast’s covenant will be for seven years, but in the middle of this week (3 ½ years into the tribulation), the beast will break the covenant, putting a stop to the J lsh sacrifices. Revelation 13 explains that the beast will place an image of himself in the temple and require the world to worship him. Revelation 13:5 says that this will go on for 42 months, which is 3 ½ years (the second half of the tribulation). So, we see a covenant lasting to the middle of the “week” (Daniel 9:27) and the beast who made the covenant demanding worship for 42 months (Revelation 13:5). Therefore, the total length of time is 84 months or seven years. We also have a reference to the last half of the tribulation in Daniel 7:25. There, the ruler will oppress God’s people for “a time, times, and half a time” (time=1 year; times=2 years; half a time=½ year; total of 3 ½ years). This time of oppression against the Jiew is also described in Revelation 13:5–7 and is part of the “great tribulation,” the last half of the seven-year tribulation when the beast, or the Antichrist, will be in power. A further reference to the timing of events in the tribulation is found in Revelation 11:2–3, which speaks of 1,260 days and 42 months (both equaling 3 ½ years, using the “prophetic year” of 360 days). Also, Daniel 12:11–12 speaks of 1,290 days and 1,335 days from the midpoint of the tribulation. The additional days in Daniel 12 may include time after the tribulation for the judgment of the nations (Matthew 25:31–46) and time for the setting up of Christ’s millennial kingdom (Revelation 20:4–6). In summary, the tribulation is the seven-year period in the end times in which humanity’s decadence and depravity will reach its fullness, with God judging accordingly. Also during that time, Israel will repent of their sin and receive Jesus as their Messiah, setting up a time of great blessing and restoration (Zephaniah 3:9–20; Isaiah 12; 35). [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)] |
Seek^ (OP) User ID: 86003191 ![]() 09/04/2023 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Seek^ Stop being deceived. And he will confirm a covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of the temple will come the abomination that causes desolation, until the decreed destruction is poured out upon him.” Daniel 9:27 What covenant did "The Antichrist" make with anyone? Notice the verse says "he shall confirm THE COVENANT..." That verse is talking about Jesus CONFIRMING the covenant God made with Abraham. It's when he sacrificed his own body so that animal sacrifices were no longer needed. No, it’s not. It’s talking about the Antichrist and the covenant he will make with Israel which he will break midway through the 7-year Tribulation when He is cast out of Heaven for good and assumes bodily control of the Antichrist. He hasn’t made this covenant yet because the first seal of the seven seals of judgment has not yet been opened. Thread: Who Confirmed The Covenant? The Great Tribulation “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand) -Jesus Christ Matthew 24:15 |