Mike Pence: "If Ukraine doesn’t defeat Russia...Americans will have to die for Ukraine” | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 84109424 ![]() 09/18/2023 11:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In any matter, that would probably be the last straw and a civil war would start as people would finally see that the establishment and the "Big guy" and his cronies wants to slaughter thousands and thousands of good men and women. |
Larphillips User ID: 83270745 ![]() 09/18/2023 11:44 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When did this shift happen - where good conservatives are against war and rinos/liberals are for it? Quoting: Bright Side None of this clown world makes sense. The burn on liberals from 5+ years ago about them being ‘peaceful and tolerant’ when they were being anything but, doesn’t even work any longer. Not even they believe they’re the ‘peace and love’ standard bearers. I KNOW, RIGHT? It's crazy! I know so many families completely destroyed by the intolerance of their left sided components. Literally children who cannot bear Grandma's stance on homosexuality (even though they're straight) or Dad having voted for Trump. It's actually downright evil in the heart of man. Despite a few historical references I never really understood how families could tear themselves apart over "politics" but we are living it on the grand stage now... It wasn’t that long ago at all that the average person neither knew of, nor cared about, the politics of their family, friends, neighbors, entertainers, or the companies they did business with. The idea that you’d never talk to a loved one again, eat at a restaurant, buy a shirt, or not watch a movie because of politics would be laughable to everyone, and nothing short of absurd. God, how the world has changed…and terrifying just how many people have forgotten what our lives were like…and how peaceful it all was. “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
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Larphillips User ID: 83270745 ![]() 09/18/2023 11:48 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe that's why they want all the illegals...to either draft them or for them to take the places of all the US armed forces and draftees they will send to be slaughtered. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84109424 In any matter, that would probably be the last straw and a civil war would start as people would finally see that the establishment and the "Big guy" and his cronies wants to slaughter thousands and thousands of good men and women. Your point is seriously worth considering further. If illegals are promised ‘citizenship’ for serving, then suddenly the Feds have hundreds of thousands of trained, equipped, and battle-hardened storm troopers who wouldn’t hesitate a single second about rounding up Americans, kicking down doors, firing on civilians, and ALL of the things that naysayers say that the US military would ‘never do.’ “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85552640 ![]() 09/18/2023 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe that's why they want all the illegals...to either draft them or for them to take the places of all the US armed forces and draftees they will send to be slaughtered. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84109424 In any matter, that would probably be the last straw and a civil war would start as people would finally see that the establishment and the "Big guy" and his cronies wants to slaughter thousands and thousands of good men and women. Your point is seriously worth considering further. If illegals are promised ‘citizenship’ for serving, then suddenly the Feds have hundreds of thousands of trained, equipped, and battle-hardened storm troopers who wouldn’t hesitate a single second about rounding up Americans, kicking down doors, firing on civilians, and ALL of the things that naysayers say that the US military would ‘never do.’ They are not for anything that requires any intelligent judgment or a job done right free Wild running assassins is about what they are and have the brains for so unless they were just taking money to let them come in and die here and not go home they cannot have a good purpose that is good for American citizens and murdering us is a big possibility |
Larphillips User ID: 83270745 ![]() 09/18/2023 11:54 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s clear that he’s just profiting personally…but there are much bigger stakes there than his and Hunter’s scummy little corruption antics. OBiden’s scams are just a drop in the ocean. That’s why people keep pointing to Ukraine’s bioweapons labs, their human trafficking, their international money laundering, and God knows what else goes on there. Prior to the war, Wikipedia gladly called Ukraine the “most corrupt country in Europe.” There was a very convenient spot, right in the heart of the continent, to do all the bad shit the globalists could cook up. I can be certain that there are more NATO troops inside Ukraine doing ‘clean up’ missions than there are ones shooting at Russians. There are a million (bad) reasons for the US to keep extending the war. Profits aside, the big one is there is a LOT in that country that needs to disappear before the Russians (or even the average Ukrainians) discover it. “A person is smart, people are stupid.” “Nobody knows until everybody knows” |
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themessengernevermatters User ID: 80117407 ![]() 09/18/2023 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Last Edited by themessengernevermatters on 09/18/2023 11:59 AM “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
themessengernevermatters User ID: 80117407 ![]() 09/18/2023 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s clear that he’s just profiting personally…but there are much bigger stakes there than his and Hunter’s scummy little corruption antics. OBiden’s scams are just a drop in the ocean. That’s why people keep pointing to Ukraine’s bioweapons labs, their human trafficking, their international money laundering, and God knows what else goes on there. Prior to the war, Wikipedia gladly called Ukraine the “most corrupt country in Europe.” There was a very convenient spot, right in the heart of the continent, to do all the bad shit the globalists could cook up. I can be certain that there are more NATO troops inside Ukraine doing ‘clean up’ missions than there are ones shooting at Russians. There are a million (bad) reasons for the US to keep extending the war. Profits aside, the big one is there is a LOT in that country that needs to disappear before the Russians (or even the average Ukrainians) discover it. Prior to the war the US congress called them a corrupt nation and actually refused joint training with them for a while, because of the pro nazi Aztov Battalion. Then the war happened and left became right, up became down and black became white; the foolish sheeple with short attention spans took it in hook, line and sinker. Last Edited by themessengernevermatters on 09/18/2023 12:03 PM “The rules are simple: they lie to us, we know they're lying, they know we know they're lying, but they keep lying to us, and we keep pretending to believe them.” Elena Gorokhova, A Mountain of Crumbs |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 85382626 ![]() 09/18/2023 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When did this shift happen - where good conservatives are against war and rinos/liberals are for it? Quoting: Bright Side None of this clown world makes sense. The burn on liberals from 5+ years ago about them being ‘peaceful and tolerant’ when they were being anything but, doesn’t even work any longer. Not even they believe they’re the ‘peace and love’ standard bearers. I KNOW, RIGHT? It's crazy! I know so many families completely destroyed by the intolerance of their left sided components. Literally children who cannot bear Grandma's stance on homosexuality (even though they're straight) or Dad having voted for Trump. It's actually downright evil in the heart of man. Despite a few historical references I never really understood how families could tear themselves apart over "politics" but we are living it on the grand stage now... It wasn’t that long ago at all that the average person neither knew of, nor cared about, the politics of their family, friends, neighbors, entertainers, or the companies they did business with. The idea that you’d never talk to a loved one again, eat at a restaurant, buy a shirt, or not watch a movie because of politics would be laughable to everyone, and nothing short of absurd. God, how the world has changed…and terrifying just how many people have forgotten what our lives were like…and how peaceful it all was. Well we were WHITE AMERICANS with LOW COLOR POPULATION and them under control. Women were still mothers then and not a buncha "great" public toilets either. One BIG problem we have is white trash culture and the "yeehaw jackass!" type of so-called "redneck" when theyre just the trash that lives with rednecks. The nuisance species first, but the end of antifa and stupid destructive whites the day after. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 84109424 ![]() 09/18/2023 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe that's why they want all the illegals...to either draft them or for them to take the places of all the US armed forces and draftees they will send to be slaughtered. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84109424 In any matter, that would probably be the last straw and a civil war would start as people would finally see that the establishment and the "Big guy" and his cronies wants to slaughter thousands and thousands of good men and women. Your point is seriously worth considering further. If illegals are promised ‘citizenship’ for serving, then suddenly the Feds have hundreds of thousands of trained, equipped, and battle-hardened storm troopers who wouldn’t hesitate a single second about rounding up Americans, kicking down doors, firing on civilians, and ALL of the things that naysayers say that the US military would ‘never do.’ They are not for anything that requires any intelligent judgment or a job done right free Wild running assassins is about what they are and have the brains for so unless they were just taking money to let them come in and die here and not go home they cannot have a good purpose that is good for American citizens and murdering us is a big possibility And the further we slip into banana republic status (arresting your top contending political opponent, in America, I mean whoa..really??) the more of a chance siccing armed forces on the citizens or outright bombing them becomes more of a possibility.) |
Dodger007 User ID: 86223365 ![]() 09/18/2023 12:13 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is NATO (and the US) all IN this, pray tell? Officially, Ukraine is not part of NATO. So WHY did Pence mention NATO? Because we are the schoolyard bully that needs to recruit a gang to do his fighting. And London is that wanky little ginger named Nigel that will do whatever it takes to be the Bully’s bestie. You can count on America to do the right thing after exhausting every other alternative." Winston Churchill |
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Gnfr User ID: 84798460 ![]() 09/18/2023 12:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FFS, did ANY of you listen to what the guy said? Where did he say anything close to advocating for Americans to die for Ukraine? All he stated was that if Ukraine doesn't stop Russia now, Russia could easily continue on and invade a NATO Treaty country. At which time, as per treaty agreement, the U.S. and all other NATO members would be compelled to defend against Russia I agree with most people that our support financially and militarily is at best misguided. It makes me crazy that we are depleting the U.S. military inventories of necessary weaponry. But Pence said NOTHING about wanting this eventuality to occur. If anything, he is pointing out the ugly truth of the NATO treaty: if any country moves against a NATO member, all members are obliged to respond on their behalf. Get a grip. Listen to what said. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74671872 ![]() 09/18/2023 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FFS, did ANY of you listen to what the guy said? Where did he say anything close to advocating for Americans to die for Ukraine? All he stated was that if Ukraine doesn't stop Russia now, Russia could easily continue on and invade a NATO Treaty country. At which time, as per treaty agreement, the U.S. and all other NATO members would be compelled to defend against Russia Quoting: Gnfr I agree with most people that our support financially and militarily is at best misguided. It makes me crazy that we are depleting the U.S. military inventories of necessary weaponry. But Pence said NOTHING about wanting this eventuality to occur. If anything, he is pointing out the ugly truth of the NATO treaty: if any country moves against a NATO member, all members are obliged to respond on their behalf. Get a grip. Listen to what said. So spooky. Not as if Putin/Biden are working together? Nah. That could never happen. Not like they both get the same results? Nah. Fakest war you’ve ever scenario Ed! Racket |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74671872 ![]() 09/18/2023 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FFS, did ANY of you listen to what the guy said? Where did he say anything close to advocating for Americans to die for Ukraine? All he stated was that if Ukraine doesn't stop Russia now, Russia could easily continue on and invade a NATO Treaty country. At which time, as per treaty agreement, the U.S. and all other NATO members would be compelled to defend against Russia Quoting: Gnfr I agree with most people that our support financially and militarily is at best misguided. It makes me crazy that we are depleting the U.S. military inventories of necessary weaponry. But Pence said NOTHING about wanting this eventuality to occur. If anything, he is pointing out the ugly truth of the NATO treaty: if any country moves against a NATO member, all members are obliged to respond on their behalf. Get a grip. Listen to what said. So spooky. Not as if Putin/Biden are working together? Nah. That could never happen. Not like they both get the same results? Nah. Fakest war you’ve ever scenario Ed! Racket |
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