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BBC Admits Ukraine’s Much Propagandized “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over

 
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BBC Admits Ukraine’s Much Propagandized “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over
No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.



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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


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Because NATO all along has been making it so that Ukraine is weak in relation to Russia but not weak enough so that Russia can win.
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Re: BBC Admits Ukraine’s Much Propagandized “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over
No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


“ Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed”

Source?
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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


So you’ve provided a nine second clip out of context and come up with all that propaganda?

Who are you working for, OP? Same group that employs Pedo Scott Ritter?

epiclol
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So, that's it? Shows over? How long do we have to wait for the next season to come out?

There just done, just like that? This is heartwarming news. Made my day.

What now? Not that any of you armchair generals have any real idea of what's going on, but I'm guessing there's some speculation brewing?
What's going on, and why isn't it coming off?
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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


So you’ve provided a nine second clip out of context and come up with all that propaganda?

Who are you working for, OP? Same group that employs Pedo Scott Ritter?

epiclol
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And wow, the tweet had a grand total of two likes, from an account with 261 followers.

OP was half of the likes for the nine second clip from BBC thst proves “ “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over”

And it doesn’t even say anything like that.
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So, that's it? Shows over? How long do we have to wait for the next season to come out?

There just done, just like that? This is heartwarming news. Made my day.

What now? Not that any of you armchair generals have any real idea of what's going on, but I'm guessing there's some speculation brewing?
 Quoting: KnowKnot


Sure, you didn’t hear the BBC reporter say “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over?

That’s it. Proof that Ukraine is toast. It’s all over now and we don’t even have to wait two weeks.

laugh
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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Because NATO all along has been making it so that Ukraine is weak in relation to Russia but not weak enough so that Russia can win.
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Oh well.
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So, that's it? Shows over? How long do we have to wait for the next season to come out?

There just done, just like that? This is heartwarming news. Made my day.

What now? Not that any of you armchair generals have any real idea of what's going on, but I'm guessing there's some speculation brewing?
 Quoting: KnowKnot


Several months after Kursk came BAGRATION.
Lots of chatter, even again today that the Russians are building up for something big. If they don’t attack in late December/January, spring is going to be wild, IMHO.

Politically, they would be better off waiting until the middle of the US Primary season.
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Re: BBC Admits Ukraine’s Much Propagandized “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over
No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


“ Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed”

Source?
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Definitely not in the tweet that OP posted.
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So, that's it? Shows over? How long do we have to wait for the next season to come out?

There just done, just like that? This is heartwarming news. Made my day.

What now? Not that any of you armchair generals have any real idea of what's going on, but I'm guessing there's some speculation brewing?
 Quoting: KnowKnot


Several months after Kursk came BAGRATION.
Lots of chatter, even again today that the Russians are building up for something big. If they don’t attack in late December/January, spring is going to be wild, IMHO.

Politically, they would be better off waiting until the middle of the US Primary season.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Lots of chatter.

Well that settles it!

Putin’s gonna take the gloves off.

epiclol
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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


So you’ve provided a nine second clip out of context and come up with all that propaganda?

Who are you working for, OP? Same group that employs Pedo Scott Ritter?

epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85296309


And wow, the tweet had a grand total of two likes, from an account with 261 followers.

OP was half of the likes for the nine second clip from BBC thst proves “ “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over”

And it doesn’t even say anything like that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85296309

Lol.. You try so hard, yet you fail even harder.
There are only several thousand tweets about it, many with longer vids of it, but this tells the tale.
It certainly got your attention didn’t it?
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Why are we further bankrupting USA for this war?

Really, why?
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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


So you’ve provided a nine second clip out of context and come up with all that propaganda?

Who are you working for, OP? Same group that employs Pedo Scott Ritter?

epiclol
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And wow, the tweet had a grand total of two likes, from an account with 261 followers.

OP was half of the likes for the nine second clip from BBC thst proves “ “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over”

And it doesn’t even say anything like that.
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Lol.. You try so hard, yet you fail even harder.
There are only several thousand tweets about it, many with longer vids of it, but this tells the tale.
It certainly got your attention didn’t it?
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You posted a 9 second clip with no context and wrote the rest yourself.

Really convincing, OP.
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Well, they been seeking those who left the country while drafting 15 and 70yo so year, they murdered all their men
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So you’ve provided a nine second clip out of context and come up with all that propaganda?

Who are you working for, OP? Same group that employs Pedo Scott Ritter?

epiclol
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85296309


And wow, the tweet had a grand total of two likes, from an account with 261 followers.

OP was half of the likes for the nine second clip from BBC thst proves “ “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over”

And it doesn’t even say anything like that.
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Lol.. You try so hard, yet you fail even harder.
There are only several thousand tweets about it, many with longer vids of it, but this tells the tale.
It certainly got your attention didn’t it?
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You posted a 9 second clip with no context and wrote the rest yourself.

Really convincing, OP.
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So convincing that you have immediately made several posts trying to impute it.
If it so meaningless, why are you wasting all this effort at 1am EST? Doing the morning shift at Ukrainform?
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Why are we further bankrupting USA for this war?

Really, why?
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https://imgur.com/o3nsY23


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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Because NATO all along has been making it so that Ukraine is weak in relation to Russia but not weak enough so that Russia can win.
 Quoting: HYpEr7l93r


That is proxy war 101. That is what is always done, whether they are funding South American death squads, Middle eastern "freedom fighters" or the innocent Ukrainian cannon fodder. They just want to cause the other country to burn troops, weapons, fuel and money. In many of the old proxy wars they were just trying to wear the other army down and give the command and their population war fatigue causing them to pull out and abandon the offensive.

NATO was actually betting on breaking the Russian economy, like they did in the 80s. But the US economy is not the economy of the eighties and even that plan is back firing. The BRICs all together will be able to sustain themselves.

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More context from BBC

War in Ukraine: Is the counter-offensive making progress?

Ukraine began its big counter-offensive in early June to push Russian forces back from land they seized. It attacked at three points along the 600-mile-plus (965km) frontline.

Striking out in this direction towards the Sea of Azov, if successful, could cut off Russia's supply lines that connect the Russian city of Rostov-on-Don to Crimea.
There hasn't been much progress on this front, except for the area around the villages of Robotyne and Verbove in the Zaporizhzhia region, as seen highlighted in purple in the map above.

If Ukraine can sever this main supply route then Russia will find it all but impossible to maintain its huge garrison in Crimea which it annexed in 2014.
Despite significant obstacles, there are now confirmed sightings of Ukrainian troops breaching Russia's defensive structures along the southern front.

Verified videos along the southern frontline

Four of the videos show Ukrainian forces breaching Russian defences north of Verbove.

Meanwhile Russia has been moving in reinforcements, and this battlefront is dynamic, it's moving, and Russia could still reverse Ukraine's gains.
We've geolocated a Russian drone video which backs up reports that its elite airborne forces, the VDV, have deployed close to the town of Verbove - a move aimed at plugging any gaps created by Ukraine's counter-offensive.
"Ukrainian forces continue to face resistance from Russian forces on the battlefield," says Kateryna Stepanenko, Russia analyst at the US-based think tank, Institute for the Study of War.

Ukraine has barely progressed more than 10% of the way to the coast, but the reality is much more nuanced than that.

Russia's forces are exhausted and possibly demoralised after sustaining three months of intensive attacks, including long-range strikes that are targeting their supply lines.

If Ukraine can break through the remaining Russian defences and reach as far as the town of Tokmak then this would bring Russia's rail and road supply routes for Crimea within range of its artillery.
If they can do that, then this counter offensive can be judged a qualified success.


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I dunno, OP. That doesn’t sound like “ BBC Admits Ukraine’s Much Propagandized “The GREATEST Counteroffensive Evah!” Has Failed, And Is Over”
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Ukraine shills still holding hope for the wheat farmers!

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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


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“ Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed”

Source?
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Good luck getting the Flying Comrade the Russia shill and puffer of Putin to respond to that.

It sure as shit wasn’t in that tweet he posted.
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Zelensky is a Nazi dictator sending his people to certain death for a war him and Biden started. Appalling
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Well, they been seeking those who left the country while drafting 15 and 70yo so year, they murdered all their men
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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Because NATO all along has been making it so that Ukraine is weak in relation to Russia but not weak enough so that Russia can win.
 Quoting: HYpEr7l93r


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No amount of propaganda and flame trolling can cover for the bloody (some say incompetent) failure of Ukraine’s Counteroffensive.

Tens of thousands dead, more tens of thousands maimed, hundreds of tanks, hundreds of guns, and 1,000+ Armored Fighting Vehicles destroyed, 100 Billion Dollars of U.S. and European Tax Money wasted, for little to no strategic gain.

The Russians set up Kursk1943v2.0, and Ukraine’s Masters in DC forced them right into it, far more concerned with narratives they could use to win news cycles, than results on the ground.

Now that mud season is arriving, wheeled vehicles like Strykers and the French AMX-10 are almost completely useless in the attack.


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Why are we further bankrupting USA for this war?

Really, why?
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The goal is to bankrupt the West. They want to rob the West blind, flood the West with non Whites, then turn off the lights and laugh as the heavily armed non Whites massacre, rape and enslave the West.
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Did anyone here really think Ukraine would win?





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