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THE WAR THREAD! Breaking News In The Middle East!

 
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You can make jokes, but it won't make it any less truth. Look at any land they have migrated to and what is happening there.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


They won't realise until it happens near them.
 Quoting: Fagertha


It's happening across the planet but most people are just refusing to see it. They'd rather placate themselves with fairy tale dreams of 'love your neighbor' without understanding what it actually means.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Agreed.

They don't understand that the 'spread the love, not hate' shit is taken advantage of by evil people.
 Quoting: Fagertha


This is why you christians and otherwise good and nice people in the west are sprinkled with people like me who aren't believers but still believe with every fiber of their being in being good people but also believe in taking care of "their people".

We have the moral flexibility to do some ugly but necessary things for the rest of y'all...

And whether there's a god or not, somebody stacked the deck with this generation!

There's a lot of us out here waiting to be let off the leash.
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They won't realise until it happens near them.
 Quoting: Fagertha


It's happening across the planet but most people are just refusing to see it. They'd rather placate themselves with fairy tale dreams of 'love your neighbor' without understanding what it actually means.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Agreed.

They don't understand that the 'spread the love, not hate' shit is taken advantage of by evil people.
 Quoting: Fagertha


This is why you christians and otherwise good and nice people in the west are sprinkled with people like me who aren't believers but still believe with every fiber of their being in being good people but also believe in taking care of "their people".

We have the moral flexibility to do some ugly but necessary things for the rest of y'all...

And whether there's a god or not, somebody stacked the deck with this generation!

There's a lot of us out here waiting to be let off the leash.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


And we are grateful for men like you, roguetechie81.
I have a lot of ex-squaddie friends who think exactly the same thing as you. Many have done more operational tours in the middle east than I can count on both hands and they are angry at who we are letting in. When you've been to the middle east and seen first hand their ways as well as living amongst them, you soon realise that their lifestyles, priorities and personalities are the complete opposite to anything we're passionate about here in the West.
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They won't realise until it happens near them.
 Quoting: Fagertha


It's happening across the planet but most people are just refusing to see it. They'd rather placate themselves with fairy tale dreams of 'love your neighbor' without understanding what it actually means.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Agreed.

They don't understand that the 'spread the love, not hate' shit is taken advantage of by evil people.
 Quoting: Fagertha


This is why you christians and otherwise good and nice people in the west are sprinkled with people like me who aren't believers but still believe with every fiber of their being in being good people but also believe in taking care of "their people".

We have the moral flexibility to do some ugly but necessary things for the rest of y'all...

And whether there's a god or not, somebody stacked the deck with this generation!

There's a lot of us out here waiting to be let off the leash.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That's exactly what I meant when I said they don't understand the meaning.

Not everyone is your 'brother'.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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It's happening across the planet but most people are just refusing to see it. They'd rather placate themselves with fairy tale dreams of 'love your neighbor' without understanding what it actually means.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Agreed.

They don't understand that the 'spread the love, not hate' shit is taken advantage of by evil people.
 Quoting: Fagertha


This is why you christians and otherwise good and nice people in the west are sprinkled with people like me who aren't believers but still believe with every fiber of their being in being good people but also believe in taking care of "their people".

We have the moral flexibility to do some ugly but necessary things for the rest of y'all...

And whether there's a god or not, somebody stacked the deck with this generation!

There's a lot of us out here waiting to be let off the leash.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That's exactly what I meant when I said they don't understand the meaning.

Not everyone is your 'brother'.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Very true, Jazz.. very true.
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The satan has his offspring too.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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'Loving' your enemy does not mean becoming a door mat for aggression. You can still hope they see the error of their ways and turn around for THEIR sake.

You CAN take out a problem that is threatening you without hating it, the same as you could stop a fire that was encroaching upon your home.

Hate is in the heart of those who would MURDER, not kill.

There IS a difference.

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To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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Probably Hamas shooting up civilians again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86615145


Hoping to create a diversion so that the worst of the worst can sneak across the border.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


naaah, Israel will never cross the border..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85948833


I am curious how extensive the tunnel systems will be near egypt border.


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'Loving' your enemy does not mean becoming a door mat for aggression. You can still hope they see the error of their ways and turn around for THEIR sake.

You CAN take out a problem that is threatening you without hating it, the same as you could stop a fire that was encroaching upon your home.

Hate is in the heart of those who would MURDER, not kill.

There IS a difference.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Nicely explained.

Intention and unintention are distinct factors in sussing out who that person truly is.

When they tell you who they are, believe them.
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I’ve seen that @ICRC_ilot have said that they trust the @PalestineRCS denial that the ambulances and the medical personnel actually belong to the organization. My post is intentionally worded and clearly focused on the concept of operations by #Hamas to exploit humanitarian and international symbols. The use of the ambulances by Hamas is reprehensible - the big red crescent on the roof is a blatant violation of the protections of the ambulances.
Please ask the international organizations and the PRCS what they did to get Hamas to stop using the protected symbol.

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It's happening across the planet but most people are just refusing to see it. They'd rather placate themselves with fairy tale dreams of 'love your neighbor' without understanding what it actually means.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Agreed.

They don't understand that the 'spread the love, not hate' shit is taken advantage of by evil people.
 Quoting: Fagertha


This is why you christians and otherwise good and nice people in the west are sprinkled with people like me who aren't believers but still believe with every fiber of their being in being good people but also believe in taking care of "their people".

We have the moral flexibility to do some ugly but necessary things for the rest of y'all...

And whether there's a god or not, somebody stacked the deck with this generation!

There's a lot of us out here waiting to be let off the leash.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That's exactly what I meant when I said they don't understand the meaning.

Not everyone is your 'brother'.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Right.

I am a committed Americanist and a humanist but not in the way lefties use the word.

I don't just believe but outright know life could be much better for us.

But the journey through to it is gonna require some very hard stuff of us.

I sincerely hope we decide to make the journey
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They need to get those hostages out of there asap.

Unfortunately they might all be dead by now.

It takes one second for some hamas guy to get pissed off and want to pull the trigger.

They need to get them out of there, their poor families too how awful for them.

This is not a good time to be Israeli because everyone is against them, acting like Oct 7 never happened and blaming Israel for everything, people have no pity.

They started having pro-hamas demonstrations only a few days after Israelis were tortured, raped, slaughtered and those who were kidnapped.

No one cares, and they conveniently brush aside what happened on October 7, it's like Israel shouldn't have the right to defend themselves.

This all shows how cold-blooded people really are.
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'Loving' your enemy does not mean becoming a door mat for aggression. You can still hope they see the error of their ways and turn around for THEIR sake.

You CAN take out a problem that is threatening you without hating it, the same as you could stop a fire that was encroaching upon your home.

Hate is in the heart of those who would MURDER, not kill.

There IS a difference.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


There is also a place for hate. We have access to that emotion for very good and valid reasons.

Misplaced hate. Blind hate. Etc

Those are a problem.

Hating the people trying to destroy civilization as we know it though?

That's a healthy hate.

There's times when hate saves you from the trauma of doing what's necessary even if it's horrible.

It is a tool.

Like all tools it is easy to use wrong.
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Hate the sin, not the sinner.
To know where your heart is, look where your mind goes when it wanders.

A rock in bad hands killed Abel. A rock in good hands killed Goliath. It isn't about the rock.

A true warrior fights not because he hates the one in front of him, but because he loves those behind him.

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How's the camping in Tunis this time of year?..

Whadi park seems like a good destination for Rhafa refugees..

Long bus rides tho..
Irony is a practice that cannot be perfected..

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Probably Hamas shooting up civilians again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86615145


Hoping to create a diversion so that the worst of the worst can sneak across the border.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


naaah, Israel will never cross the border..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85948833


I am curious how extensive the tunnel systems will be near egypt border.


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you and me both. Massive is my guess...smuggling, drugs arms and people
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Probably Hamas shooting up civilians again.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86615145


Hoping to create a diversion so that the worst of the worst can sneak across the border.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


naaah, Israel will never cross the border..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85948833


I am curious how extensive the tunnel systems will be near egypt border.


popcorn
 Quoting: Armchair General


you and me both. Massive is my guess...smuggling, drugs arms and people
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It's happening across the planet but most people are just refusing to see it. They'd rather placate themselves with fairy tale dreams of 'love your neighbor' without understanding what it actually means.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


Agreed.

They don't understand that the 'spread the love, not hate' shit is taken advantage of by evil people.
 Quoting: Fagertha


This is why you christians and otherwise good and nice people in the west are sprinkled with people like me who aren't believers but still believe with every fiber of their being in being good people but also believe in taking care of "their people".

We have the moral flexibility to do some ugly but necessary things for the rest of y'all...

And whether there's a god or not, somebody stacked the deck with this generation!

There's a lot of us out here waiting to be let off the leash.
 Quoting: roguetechie81


That's exactly what I meant when I said they don't understand the meaning.

Not everyone is your 'brother'.
 Quoting: ~Jazzy~


I’m just glad there are some left who get it.
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Province alongside the Fars Province of Western Iran were caused by Israeli Covert Attacks attempting to “Send a Message” to the Iranian Regime.



Last Edited by FireFleye on 02/16/2024 08:01 PM





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