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HairyBarbarian
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I have been narrowing down a possible location in the Gulf of Thailand:




https://imgur.com/a/0lFImGI



https://imgur.com/a/ffhEA40




The links are like little slide shows with arrows.




I don't know if anyone has checked here.


I believe a number of planes took the MH370 flight code that night and one plane ended up in the gulf.
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Re: MH370
Reasons a plane could be here:



1. satellite imagery at the time of a crash zone in the gulf showing people and seats - not sure what the location was exactly.


2. the inmarsat satellite data shows plane movement prior to official take off time of planes flying south from U-Tapao at the same time a plane flew north.


3. the oil rig worker who saw a fire at approx 270 degrees from the Songa Mercur rig that night - which was at an apparent standstill meaning it was moving directly away or toward the rig at the time - crossing the regular flight paths.


4. coded references of many events relate to this location - (when using clock time coordinates.


5. when multiple planes are assigned a flight number called a Q number - the one that previously has the flight number gets put in a queue - and it's messages are deprioritised in favour of the new plane's aes signals to ges - plane to ground earth - so if a plane having a particular tail number - was relieved of that number and got into trouble - it's comms would be backed up and not received - as the new plane given the Q would be prioritised: this could also explain why the final three pings were so far apart:

i) three separate planes

ii) deprioritised messages backed up until other plane is relieved of the Q number (i.e lands for example) - the waitin message is finally received.

iii) one of the final pings was in the Gulf of Thailand also.
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Re: MH370
Reasons a plane could be here:



1. satellite imagery at the time of a crash zone in the gulf showing people and seats - not sure what the location was exactly.


2. the inmarsat satellite data shows plane movement prior to official take off time of planes flying south from U-Tapao at the same time a plane flew north.


3. the oil rig worker who saw a fire at approx 270 degrees from the Songa Mercur rig that night - which was at an apparent standstill meaning it was moving directly away or toward the rig at the time - crossing the regular flight paths.


4. coded references of many events relate to this location - (when using clock time coordinates.


5. when multiple planes are assigned a flight number ( edit : which has a status number attached - called a Q number )- the one that previously has the flight number gets put in a queue - and it's messages are deprioritised in favour of the new plane's aes signals to ges - plane to ground earth - so if a plane having a particular tail number - was relieved of that number and got into trouble - it's comms would be backed up and not received - as the new plane given the Q would be prioritised: this could also explain why the final three pings were so far apart:

i) three separate planes

ii) deprioritised messages backed up until other plane is relieved of the Q number (i.e lands for example) - the waitin message is finally received.

iii) one of the final pings was in the Gulf of Thailand also.
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Re: MH370
I have edited the above post:

when a plane is assigned a flight path and it logs in to connect via satellite to ground earth stations - ges - t=it gives a number between 1 and 15 - 1 being everything is fine and 15 being distress; a flight giving 15 will be prioritised over a 1 therefore.


If a flight is nearing a way point whereby it needs to reassign its aes to ges channel - it will log on to do so and again gives a range of 1-15 for priority; so when for example a plane denoted as being MH370 flew to Igari waypoint in the sea before leaving KL Malaysia GES - and connecting to Vietnam region - logs in and says all is well - Q-1 - if at that time another plane assigns as MH370 and the first MH370 gets into trouble - if the second plane has prioritised itself - say with Q 5 for example - then the first plane messaging is deprioritised by the GES for response.



From memory there is a log on log off after 2am Malaysia time - up to around 2.40 am.


The location at this time is inside Malaysia - but the 2.40am ping is near Hainan/ Hong Kong 0 East coast of Vietnam: this information is determined by the BTO and BFO - burst timing offset and burst frequency offset.
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When you ask to log in or log off to communicate as a particular flight number - you get assigned a P-channel - if you are lower priority and really need assignment and are insistent - you get an R-channel:

details here:


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Re: MH370
Here you find data from MH370


[link to github.com (secure)]


scroll down


lots of details - for example - you can see the IOR 305 and IOR 301 land stations where pings are received from the plane/s via the satellite.


In some of the rows you will see two sets of numbers at the end of the rows - these are the BTO and BFO numbers from which you can calculate the location of the plane/s.
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Here you find data from MH370


[link to github.com (secure)]


scroll down


lots of details - for example - you can see the IOR 305 and IOR 301 land stations where pings are received from the plane/s via the satellite.


In some of the rows you will see two sets of numbers at the end of the rows - these are the BTO and BFO numbers from which you can calculate the location of the plane/s.
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There are different ocean regions for satellites - Atlantic ocean region Pacific ocean region and Indian ocean region

aor(e) - por - ior


the data gives us IOR satellite info.



Back in the day each land earth station (ground earth station) would have a sequence of matching numbers for their IDs: for example


105 205 305 - would all belong to one station

155 255 355 - would be another

104 204 304

and so on - you can see the pattern and you will find this in old manuals.


These numbers have changed now and so far as I can this this has happened post MH370.
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Re: MH370
Here you find data from MH370


[link to github.com (secure)]


scroll down


lots of details - for example - you can see the IOR 305 and IOR 301 land stations where pings are received from the plane/s via the satellite.


In some of the rows you will see two sets of numbers at the end of the rows - these are the BTO and BFO numbers from which you can calculate the location of the plane/s.
 Quoting: HairyBarbarian




There are different ocean regions for satellites - Atlantic ocean region Pacific ocean region and Indian ocean region

aor(e) - por - ior


the data gives us IOR satellite info.



Back in the day each land earth station (ground earth station) would have a sequence of matching numbers for their IDs: for example


105 205 305 - would all belong to one station

155 255 355 - would be another

104 204 304

and so on - you can see the pattern and you will find this in old manuals.


These numbers have changed now and so far as I can this this has happened post MH370.
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Noticing the IOR305 references in most of the data for MH370 and finding the manual which said this was for a land earth ground earth station in Italy, I contacted them - and at first they confirmed they were 105 and IOR 305:


https://imgur.com/a/GeinMu4





The station Fucino confirmed their ID as IOR305 - matching with the MH370 data.



I found this interesting as it was Italy - and as the Prune pilot forum stated a final pilot ping had been received in Schiphol Netherlands - for MH370 - the flight from KL Malaysia to Beijing (nowhere near Italy or the Netherlands.
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https://imgur.com/a/GeinMu4


try again doesn't seem to be working
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Re: MH370
Well - what is interesting about those images not working - is that - after I got those confirmations back in 2015 - i said thank you:


https://imgur.com/a/K31ZlWk




and posted on GLP



I would ask you to note the times in the images - but they don't appear to be showing so, kinda time waster hmmm




After posting on GLP - I got another email from Fucino - retracting their confirmation of their ID - I will show you if I am allowed.
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Re: MH370
OP, I do not doubt your sleuth-capacity or angles, but need to put things in perspecto-mundo, dig?

The world and then some were pooling all their resources across multiple countries, scouring all these things.

The Gulf of T is not that big, and is heavily fished with tons of traffic...meaning, something more tangible would have shown up.

The only logical conclusion, if your sleuthing has legs, is they didnt want to find it.
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Re: MH370
nop. it got langoliered. but they never made it back verysad
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Re: MH370
I don't know if anyone can see these images - I can't see them.


This is where Fucino - refuted their earlier confirmation after I posted on GLP


https://imgur.com/a/MO0FwYl





The thing that is interesting is a land earth station couldn't be AORE 105 and IOR 355 - as they now attested (then).


AORE 155 would be at the same land earth station as 355.




As you can see (if the image shows) the poor fellow asked me to go elsewhere for more info.
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Re: MH370
considering who benefited, I would guess the plane turned to dust in mid air
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Re: MH370
Here you can see that Land earth station in the Netherlands Burum is 012 in all zones - then scroll down - and you will see - oh look now Perth is Land Earth Station 12 in the Pacific zone - just as Burum is LES 12 in the POR above in the same document.

From memory I believe it was recent at the time to attribute 012 as LES Perth:


[link to www.marcomm.ru]
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