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Anonymous Coward User ID: 443247 United Kingdom 05/31/2008 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Myth: Muslims often claim that their religion fostered a rich heritage of scientific discovery, “paving the way” for modern advances in technology and medicine. On this topic, they usually refer to the period between the 7th and 13th centuries, when Europe was experiencing its “Dark Ages” and the Muslim world was conquering new populations and culture. The Truth: Although there is no arguing that the Muslim world was more advanced during this period than the “Christian” world, the reasons for this have absolutely nothing to do with the Islamic religion (other than its mandate for military expansion). In fact, the religion actively discourages knowledge outside of itself, which is why the greatest Muslim scholars throughout history tend to be students of religion rather than science. First, the Muslim world benefited greatly from the Greek sciences, which were translated for them by Christians and Jews. To their credit, Muslims did a better job of preserving Greek text than did the Europeans of the time, and this became the foundation for their own knowledge. (One large reason for this, however, was that access by Christians to this part of their world was cut off by the Muslim slave ships and coastal raids that dominated the Mediterranean during this period). Secondly, many of the scientific advances credited to Islam were actually “borrowed” from other cultures conquered by the Muslims. The algebraic concept of “zero”, for example, is erroneously attributed to Islam, but it was, in fact, created by the Hindus and merely introduced to the West by Muslims - along with the products of other cultures that were found to be useful to their new rulers. In fact, conquered populations contributed greatly to the history of “Muslim science” until gradually being decimated by conversion to Islam (under the pressures of dhimmitude). The Muslim concentration within a population is directly proportional to the decline of scientific achievement. It is no accident that the Muslim world has had little to show for itself in the last 600 years or so, since running out of new civilizations to cannibalize. Third, even the great Muslim scientists and icons were often considered heretics in their time, sometimes for good reason. One of the greatest achievers to come out of the Muslim world was the Iranian scientist and philosopher, al-Razi. His impressive works are often held up today as “proof” of Muslim accomplishment. But what the apologists often leave out is that al-Razi was denounced as a blasphemer, since he followed his own religious beliefs – which were in obvious contradiction to traditional Islam. Fourth, even the contributions that are attributed to Islam (often inaccurately) are not terribly dramatic. There is the invention of certain words, such as alchemy and elixir, but not much else that survives in modern technology that is of any practical significance. Neither is there any reason to believe that such discoveries would not have easily been made by the West following the cultural awakening triggered by the Reformation. As an example of this, consider that Muslims claim credit for coffee, since the beans were discovered in Africa (at the time, an important source for Islamic slave trading) and first processed in the Middle East. While this is true, it is also true that the red dye used in many food products, from cranberry juice to candy, comes from the abdomen of a particular female beetle found in South America. It is extremely unlikely that the West would not have stumbled across coffee by now (although, to be fair, coffee probably expedited subsequent discoveries). In fact, the litany of “Muslim” achievement often takes the form of rhapsody, in which the true origins of these discoveries are omitted - along with their comparative significance to Western achievement. Scientific, medical and technological accomplishments are not something over which Muslim apologists want to get into a pissing contest with the Christian world. Today’s Islamic innovators are known merely for turning Western technology, such as cell phones and airplanes, into instruments of mass murder. To sum up, although the Islamic religion is not entirely hostile to science, neither should it be confused as a facilitator. The great achievements that are said to have come out of the Islamic world were made either by non-Muslims who happened to be under Islamic rule, or by heretics who usually had little interest in Islam. Scientific discovery tapers off dramatically as Islam asserts dominance, until it eventually peters out altogether. |
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Sinanju User ID: 436858 United States 05/31/2008 12:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am one of the more vehement anti-muslim people here... BUT, all knowledge is stolen in one way or another. As an aside... "What have you done for me lately?" -Janet Jackson. If they were such great scientific minds, why did they reach their pinnacle over 10 centuries ago? Why have they not advanced since? RADICAL Islam. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 443277 United States 05/31/2008 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Myth: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443247Muslims often claim that their religion fostered a rich heritage of scientific discovery, “paving the way” for modern advances in technology and medicine. On this topic, they usually refer to the period between the 7th and 13th centuries, when Europe was experiencing its “Dark Ages” and the Muslim world was conquering new populations and culture. The Truth: Although there is no arguing that the Muslim world was more advanced during this period than the “Christian” world, the reasons for this have absolutely nothing to do with the Islamic religion (other than its mandate for military expansion). In fact, the religion actively discourages knowledge outside of itself, which is why the greatest Muslim scholars throughout history tend to be students of religion rather than science. First, the Muslim world benefited greatly from the Greek sciences, which were translated for them by Christians and Jews. To their credit, Muslims did a better job of preserving Greek text than did the Europeans of the time, and this became the foundation for their own knowledge. (One large reason for this, however, was that access by Christians to this part of their world was cut off by the Muslim slave ships and coastal raids that dominated the Mediterranean during this period). Secondly, many of the scientific advances credited to Islam were actually “borrowed” from other cultures conquered by the Muslims. The algebraic concept of “zero”, for example, is erroneously attributed to Islam, but it was, in fact, created by the Hindus and merely introduced to the West by Muslims - along with the products of other cultures that were found to be useful to their new rulers. In fact, conquered populations contributed greatly to the history of “Muslim science” until gradually being decimated by conversion to Islam (under the pressures of dhimmitude). The Muslim concentration within a population is directly proportional to the decline of scientific achievement. It is no accident that the Muslim world has had little to show for itself in the last 600 years or so, since running out of new civilizations to cannibalize. Third, even the great Muslim scientists and icons were often considered heretics in their time, sometimes for good reason. One of the greatest achievers to come out of the Muslim world was the Iranian scientist and philosopher, al-Razi. His impressive works are often held up today as “proof” of Muslim accomplishment. But what the apologists often leave out is that al-Razi was denounced as a blasphemer, since he followed his own religious beliefs – which were in obvious contradiction to traditional Islam. Fourth, even the contributions that are attributed to Islam (often inaccurately) are not terribly dramatic. There is the invention of certain words, such as alchemy and elixir, but not much else that survives in modern technology that is of any practical significance. Neither is there any reason to believe that such discoveries would not have easily been made by the West following the cultural awakening triggered by the Reformation. As an example of this, consider that Muslims claim credit for coffee, since the beans were discovered in Africa (at the time, an important source for Islamic slave trading) and first processed in the Middle East. While this is true, it is also true that the red dye used in many food products, from cranberry juice to candy, comes from the abdomen of a particular female beetle found in South America. It is extremely unlikely that the West would not have stumbled across coffee by now (although, to be fair, coffee probably expedited subsequent discoveries). In fact, the litany of “Muslim” achievement often takes the form of rhapsody, in which the true origins of these discoveries are omitted - along with their comparative significance to Western achievement. Scientific, medical and technological accomplishments are not something over which Muslim apologists want to get into a pissing contest with the Christian world. Today’s Islamic innovators are known merely for turning Western technology, such as cell phones and airplanes, into instruments of mass murder. To sum up, although the Islamic religion is not entirely hostile to science, neither should it be confused as a facilitator. The great achievements that are said to have come out of the Islamic world were made either by non-Muslims who happened to be under Islamic rule, or by heretics who usually had little interest in Islam. Scientific discovery tapers off dramatically as Islam asserts dominance, until it eventually peters out altogether. NOW THATS A LOAD OF CRAP BUDDY, YOUR TALKING ABOUT FUNDIE MUSLIMS AND THATS THE SAME THING XIAN AND JEWISH FUNDIES, THEY ARE MORONS AND LOVE THE CONDITION. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF SUFISM , YOU SHOULD DO SOME READING SOME WHERE BESIDES ON THE INTERNET, SECONDLY, ALL OF THE GREEK CLASSICS WHERE SAVED BY THE MUSLIMS, THE CHURCH HAD EVERY COPY IN EUROPE BURNED LIKE THE GOOD NAZIS THEY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN, AND THE MUSLIMS ADVANCED MEDICINE AND SURGERIES UNLIKE IN EUROPE WHERE SURGERIY MEANT AMPUTAITION, STOP PRETENDING THE CHURCH ADVANCED KNOWLEDGE, IF THE CHURCH STILL RAN THE WESTERN WORLD YOU WOULD BE TAUGHT THAT THE WORLD IS FLAT, BUT YOU'D LIKE THAT WOULDN'T YA. AS HAS BEEN SAID BEFORE, GOING THRU LIFE FAT AND STUPID IS VERY SAD |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 443253 United Kingdom 05/31/2008 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes a great deal of ancient knowledge was stolen. Quoting: Lotus FeetDo they still have the copies? Lotus A great deal of ancient knowledge was destroyed and repressed. By Who? By the "Christians" of the Roman Catholic Church. Not real Christians by any means, but fake Christers of the like found daily on this forum. Hateful self righteous kept little people, wishing they were the keepers. Sound familiar to you at all? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 443329 United States 05/31/2008 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A great deal of ancient knowledge was destroyed and repressed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443253By Who? By the "Christians" of the Roman Catholic Church. Not real Christians by any means, but fake Christers of the like found daily on this forum. Hateful self righteous kept little people, wishing they were the keepers. Sound familiar to you at all? I don't get what this has to do with the price of dilithium crystals on Halcyon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 294547 India 05/31/2008 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A great deal of ancient knowledge was destroyed and repressed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443253By Who? By the "Christians" of the Roman Catholic Church. Not real Christians by any means, but fake Christers of the like found daily on this forum. Hateful self righteous kept little people, wishing they were the keepers. Sound familiar to you at all? Sure it sounds familiar, another unemplyed liberal jew cellar-dweller scheming to find a way to make everything the 'christians' fault. This is why all through history you get evicted from one country after another, but your charming personality just doesn't learn, does it. |
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Genghis Tron User ID: 294547 India 05/31/2008 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 The story goes that an Arab named Khalid was fucking his goats in the Kaffa region of southern Ethiopia, when he noticed his animals became hornier after eating a certain berry. He boiled the berries to make the first coffee. Certainly the first record of the drink is of beans exported from Ethiopia to Yemen where Sufis drank it to stay awake all night to pray on special occasions because their religion is so boring. By the late 15th century it had arrived in Mecca and Turkey from where it made its way to Venice in 1645. It was brought to England in 1650 by a Turk named Pasqua Rosee who opened the first gay bath house in Lombard Street in the City of London. The Arabic qahwa became the Turkish kahve then the Italian caffé and then English coffee, proving that stimulant drugs were introduced to Anglos through goat-fucking moslems. 3 A form of chess was played in ancient India but the game was developed into the form we know it today in Persia. From there it spread westward to Europe - where it was introduced by the Moors in Spain in the 10th century - and eastward as far as Japan. The word rook comes from the Persian rukh, which means chariot, which makes no sense because in chess a 'rook' is a castle and so this fairy-tale is obviously bullshit. 4 A thousand years before the Wright brothers a Muslim poet, astronomer, musician and engineer named Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine. In 852 he jumped from the minaret of the Grand Mosque in Cordoba using a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts. He hoped to glide like a bird. He didn't. ...a crater on the Moon are named after him HAHAHAHAHAAAA. 5 Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims because they smell, which is perhaps why they try to take credit for the Aryan invention of soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil to try to kill their body lice and foul camel smell. 6 Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today to create alcoholic beverages - which they now snivel and bitch and blame Anglos about non-stop to anyone that will still listen. 7 The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari who was trying to cast dildoes shaped like his own corkscrew arab penis. Among his 50 other inventions was herpes. 8 Quilting is a method of sewing or tying two layers of cloth with a layer of insulating material in between. It is not clear whether it was invented in the Muslim world or whether it was imported there from India or China. But it certainly came to the West via the Crusaders. They saw it used by Saracen warriors, who wore straw-filled quilted canvas shirts instead of armour. As well as a form of protection, it proved an effective guard against the chafing of the Crusaders' metal armour and was an effective form of insulation - so much so that it became a cottage industry back home in colder climates such as Britain and Holland. How arabs can claim credit for originating it out of this account is a mystery. 9 Muslims living in tents try to claim credit for other people's architecture somehow. 10 Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised to help his moslem brothers try to maturbate are recognisable to a modern surgeon that has had to remove them from their asses in the emergency room. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey sex-slave ate his lute strings off of his own botched circumcision). Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes because even way back then as today, they traffic narcotics to white teen girls. ...and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.(oh really? by who? cataracts are in the LENSE you retard, you cant suck them out with a needle) 12 The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it. CITE YOUR EVIDENCE 13 The fountain pen was invented for the Sultan of Egypt in 953 after he demanded a pen which would not stain his hands or clothes because he was a klutz without opposible thumbs. 15 Ali ibn Nafi, known by his nickname of Ziryab (Blackbird) came from Iraq to Cordoba in the 9th century and brought with him the concept of the three-course meal - soup, followed by fish or meat, then fruit and nuts. Amazing! Clearly a MUCH HIGHER achievement than White man walking on the Moon!! Enjoy your soup and nuts, bitch! 16 Carpets were regarded as part of Paradise by medieval Muslims, thanks to their advanced weaving techniques, new tinctures from Islamic chemistry and highly developed sense of pattern and arabesque which were the basis of Islam's non-representational art. In contrast, Europe's floors were distinctly earthly, not to say earthy, until Arabian and Persian carpets were introduced. In England, as Erasmus recorded, floors were "covered in rushes, occasionally renewed, but so imperfectly that the bottom layer is left undisturbed, sometimes for 20 years, harbouring expectoration, vomiting, the leakage of dogs and men, ale droppings, scraps of fish, and other abominations not fit to be mentioned". Carpets, unsurprisingly, caught on quickly. Oh yeah right, thank Allah that my scraps of fish and "leakage of men" now have a carpet to soak into! Dumbass. 17 The modern cheque comes from the Arabic saqq, a written vow to pay for goods when they were delivered, to avoid money having to be transported across dangerous terrain. In the 9th century, a Muslim businessman could cash a cheque in China drawn on his bank in Baghdad. Then maybe you and the chinese should stick to sucking each other off instead of coming to America to poach our women like you do. 19 Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Crusaders. By the 15th century they had invented both a rocket, which they called a "self-moving and combusting egg", and a torpedo - a self-propelled pear-shaped bomb with a spear at the front which impaled itself in enemy ships and then blew up. Yes, because you are warlike animals, and any technology you are introduced to, your first thought is to kill your neighbors with it. As Jesus said, you are proud of the things you should be ashamed of. 20 Medieval Europe had kitchen and herb gardens, but it was the Arabs who developed the idea of the garden as a place of beauty and meditation. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FUCKING STUPID THAT SOUNDS??!! Europe had gardens, but the Moslem is supposed to get credit because he passed out in the garden after drinking too much fermented camel pee??? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 443329 United States 05/31/2008 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP i've corrected some typos in your opening post: Quoting: Genghis Tron 2945471 The story goes that an Arab named Khalid was fucking his goats in the Kaffa region of southern Ethiopia, when he noticed his animals became hornier after eating a certain berry. He boiled the berries to make the first coffee. Certainly the first record of the drink is of beans exported from Ethiopia to Yemen where Sufis drank it to stay awake all night to pray on special occasions because their religion is so boring. By the late 15th century it had arrived in Mecca and Turkey from where it made its way to Venice in 1645. It was brought to England in 1650 by a Turk named Pasqua Rosee who opened the first gay bath house in Lombard Street in the City of London. The Arabic qahwa became the Turkish kahve then the Italian caffé and then English coffee, proving that stimulant drugs were introduced to Anglos through goat-fucking moslems. 3 A form of chess was played in ancient India but the game was developed into the form we know it today in Persia. From there it spread westward to Europe - where it was introduced by the Moors in Spain in the 10th century - and eastward as far as Japan. The word rook comes from the Persian rukh, which means chariot, which makes no sense because in chess a 'rook' is a castle and so this fairy-tale is obviously bullshit. 4 A thousand years before the Wright brothers a Muslim poet, astronomer, musician and engineer named Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine. In 852 he jumped from the minaret of the Grand Mosque in Cordoba using a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts. He hoped to glide like a bird. He didn't. ...a crater on the Moon are named after him HAHAHAHAHAAAA. 5 Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims because they smell, which is perhaps why they try to take credit for the Aryan invention of soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil to try to kill their body lice and foul camel smell. 6 Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today to create alcoholic beverages - which they now snivel and bitch and blame Anglos about non-stop to anyone that will still listen. 7 The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari who was trying to cast dildoes shaped like his own corkscrew arab penis. Among his 50 other inventions was herpes. 8 Quilting is a method of sewing or tying two layers of cloth with a layer of insulating material in between. It is not clear whether it was invented in the Muslim world or whether it was imported there from India or China. But it certainly came to the West via the Crusaders. They saw it used by Saracen warriors, who wore straw-filled quilted canvas shirts instead of armour. As well as a form of protection, it proved an effective guard against the chafing of the Crusaders' metal armour and was an effective form of insulation - so much so that it became a cottage industry back home in colder climates such as Britain and Holland. How arabs can claim credit for originating it out of this account is a mystery. 9 Muslims living in tents try to claim credit for other people's architecture somehow. 10 Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised to help his moslem brothers try to maturbate are recognisable to a modern surgeon that has had to remove them from their asses in the emergency room. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey sex-slave ate his lute strings off of his own botched circumcision). Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes because even way back then as today, they traffic narcotics to white teen girls. ...and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.(oh really? by who? cataracts are in the LENSE you retard, you cant suck them out with a needle) 12 The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it. CITE YOUR EVIDENCE 13 The fountain pen was invented for the Sultan of Egypt in 953 after he demanded a pen which would not stain his hands or clothes because he was a klutz without opposible thumbs. 15 Ali ibn Nafi, known by his nickname of Ziryab (Blackbird) came from Iraq to Cordoba in the 9th century and brought with him the concept of the three-course meal - soup, followed by fish or meat, then fruit and nuts. Amazing! Clearly a MUCH HIGHER achievement than White man walking on the Moon!! Enjoy your soup and nuts, bitch! 16 Carpets were regarded as part of Paradise by medieval Muslims, thanks to their advanced weaving techniques, new tinctures from Islamic chemistry and highly developed sense of pattern and arabesque which were the basis of Islam's non-representational art. In contrast, Europe's floors were distinctly earthly, not to say earthy, until Arabian and Persian carpets were introduced. In England, as Erasmus recorded, floors were "covered in rushes, occasionally renewed, but so imperfectly that the bottom layer is left undisturbed, sometimes for 20 years, harbouring expectoration, vomiting, the leakage of dogs and men, ale droppings, scraps of fish, and other abominations not fit to be mentioned". Carpets, unsurprisingly, caught on quickly. Oh yeah right, thank Allah that my scraps of fish and "leakage of men" now have a carpet to soak into! Dumbass. 17 The modern cheque comes from the Arabic saqq, a written vow to pay for goods when they were delivered, to avoid money having to be transported across dangerous terrain. In the 9th century, a Muslim businessman could cash a cheque in China drawn on his bank in Baghdad. Then maybe you and the chinese should stick to sucking each other off instead of coming to America to poach our women like you do. 19 Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Crusaders. By the 15th century they had invented both a rocket, which they called a "self-moving and combusting egg", and a torpedo - a self-propelled pear-shaped bomb with a spear at the front which impaled itself in enemy ships and then blew up. Yes, because you are warlike animals, and any technology you are introduced to, your first thought is to kill your neighbors with it. As Jesus said, you are proud of the things you should be ashamed of. 20 Medieval Europe had kitchen and herb gardens, but it was the Arabs who developed the idea of the garden as a place of beauty and meditation. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FUCKING STUPID THAT SOUNDS??!! Europe had gardens, but the Moslem is supposed to get credit because he passed out in the garden after drinking too much fermented camel pee??? 5,000 thumbs up. LOLZ!! |
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jarha User ID: 366763 United States 05/31/2008 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How Islamic inventors changed the world Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44319120 Medieval Europe had kitchen and herb gardens, but it was the Arabs who developed the idea of the garden as a place of beauty and meditation. The first royal pleasure gardens in Europe were opened in 11th-century Muslim Spain. Flowers which originated in Muslim gardens include the carnation and the tulip. "1001 Inventions: Discover the Muslim Heritage in Our World" is a new exhibition which began a nationwide tour this week. It is currently at the Science Museum in Manchester. For more information, go to www.1001inventions.com. 21 It was Muslim who landed on the Moon in 1969. 22 It was Muslim who invented TV. etc. etc. etc. .............................................................. IT WAS LONG, LONG TIME BEFORE MUSLIMS Sumerians /5300-4700 BC/ a non-Semitic people 1 - They grew barley, chickpeas, lentils, wheat, dates, onions, garlic, lettuce, leeks and mustard. They also raised cattle, sheep, goats, and pigs. 2 - Sumerian agriculture depended heavily on irrigation. The irrigation was accomplished by the use of shadufs, canals, channels, dykes, weirs, and reservoirs. 3 - The most impressive and famous of Sumerian buildings are the ziggurats, large layered platforms which supported temples. Some scholars have theorized that these structures might have been the basis of the Tower of Babel described in Genesis. Sumerian cylinder seals also depict houses built from reeds not unlike those built by the Marsh Arabs of Southern Iraq until as recently as A.D. 400. The Sumerians also developed the arch. With this structure, they were able to develop a strong type of roof called a dome. They built this by constructing several arches. Sumerian temples and palaces made use of more advanced materials and techniques, such as buttresses, recesses, half columns, and clay nails. 4 - Sumerian technology include: the wheel, cuneiform, arithmetic and geometry, irrigation systems, Sumerian boats, lunisolar calendar, bronze, leather, saws, chisels, hammers, braces, bits, nails, pins, rings, hoes, axes, knives, lancepoints, arrowheads, swords, glue, daggers, waterskins, bags, harnesses, armor, quivers, war chariots, scabbards, boots, sandals and harpoons. 5 - Legacy Most authorities credit the Sumerians with the invention of the wheel, initially in the form of the potter's wheel. The new concept quickly led to wheeled vehicles and mill wheels. The Sumerians' cuneiform writing system is the oldest there is evidence of (with the exception of proto-writing such as the Vinča signs and the even older Jiahu signs). The Sumerians were among the first astronomers, mapping the stars into sets of constellations, many of which constellations survived in the zodiac and in the constellations known to the ancient Greeks. The five planets that are visible to the naked eye also have Sumerian names. They invented and developed arithmetic using several different number systems including a Mixed radix system with an alternating base 10 and base 6. This sexagesimal system became the standard number system in Sumer and Babylonia. They developed the first known codified legal and administrative systems, complete with courts, jails, and government records. The first true city states arose in Sumer, roughly contemporaneously with similar entities in what is now Syria and Israel. Several centuries after their invention of cuneiform, the practice of writing expanded beyond debt/payment certificates and inventory lists and was applied for the first time about 2600 BC to written messages and mail delivery, history, legend, mathematics, astronomical records and other pursuits generally corresponding to the fields occupying teachers and students ever since. Accordingly, the first formal schools were established, usually under the auspices of a city-state's primary temple. Finally, the Sumerians ushered in the age of intensive agriculture and irrigation. Emmer wheat, barley, sheep (starting as moufflon) and cattle (starting as aurochs) were foremost among the species cultivated and raised for the first time on a grand scale. These inventions and innovations easily place the Sumerians among the most creative cultures in human pre-history. |
jarha User ID: 366763 United States 05/31/2008 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I've corrected some typos in your opening post: Quoting: Genghis Tron 2945471 The story goes that an Arab named Khalid was fucking his goats in the Kaffa region of southern Ethiopia, when he noticed his animals became hornier after eating a certain berry. He boiled the berries to make the first coffee. Certainly the first record of the drink is of beans exported from Ethiopia to Yemen where Sufis drank it to stay awake all night to pray on special occasions because their religion is so boring. By the late 15th century it had arrived in Mecca and Turkey from where it made its way to Venice in 1645. It was brought to England in 1650 by a Turk named Pasqua Rosee who opened the first gay bath house in Lombard Street in the City of London. The Arabic qahwa became the Turkish kahve then the Italian caffé and then English coffee, proving that stimulant drugs were introduced to Anglos through goat-fucking moslems. 3 A form of chess was played in ancient India but the game was developed into the form we know it today in Persia. From there it spread westward to Europe - where it was introduced by the Moors in Spain in the 10th century - and eastward as far as Japan. The word rook comes from the Persian rukh, which means chariot, which makes no sense because in chess a 'rook' is a castle and so this fairy-tale is obviously bullshit. 4 A thousand years before the Wright brothers a Muslim poet, astronomer, musician and engineer named Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine. In 852 he jumped from the minaret of the Grand Mosque in Cordoba using a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts. He hoped to glide like a bird. He didn't. ...a crater on the Moon are named after him HAHAHAHAHAAAA. 5 Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims because they smell, which is perhaps why they try to take credit for the Aryan invention of soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil to try to kill their body lice and foul camel smell. 6 Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today to create alcoholic beverages - which they now snivel and bitch and blame Anglos about non-stop to anyone that will still listen. 7 The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari who was trying to cast dildoes shaped like his own corkscrew arab penis. Among his 50 other inventions was herpes. 8 Quilting is a method of sewing or tying two layers of cloth with a layer of insulating material in between. It is not clear whether it was invented in the Muslim world or whether it was imported there from India or China. But it certainly came to the West via the Crusaders. They saw it used by Saracen warriors, who wore straw-filled quilted canvas shirts instead of armour. As well as a form of protection, it proved an effective guard against the chafing of the Crusaders' metal armour and was an effective form of insulation - so much so that it became a cottage industry back home in colder climates such as Britain and Holland. How arabs can claim credit for originating it out of this account is a mystery. 9 Muslims living in tents try to claim credit for other people's architecture somehow. 10 Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised to help his moslem brothers try to maturbate are recognisable to a modern surgeon that has had to remove them from their asses in the emergency room. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey sex-slave ate his lute strings off of his own botched circumcision). Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes because even way back then as today, they traffic narcotics to white teen girls. ...and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.(oh really? by who? cataracts are in the LENSE you retard, you cant suck them out with a needle) 12 The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it. CITE YOUR EVIDENCE 13 The fountain pen was invented for the Sultan of Egypt in 953 after he demanded a pen which would not stain his hands or clothes because he was a klutz without opposible thumbs. 15 Ali ibn Nafi, known by his nickname of Ziryab (Blackbird) came from Iraq to Cordoba in the 9th century and brought with him the concept of the three-course meal - soup, followed by fish or meat, then fruit and nuts. Amazing! Clearly a MUCH HIGHER achievement than White man walking on the Moon!! Enjoy your soup and nuts, bitch! 16 Carpets were regarded as part of Paradise by medieval Muslims, thanks to their advanced weaving techniques, new tinctures from Islamic chemistry and highly developed sense of pattern and arabesque which were the basis of Islam's non-representational art. In contrast, Europe's floors were distinctly earthly, not to say earthy, until Arabian and Persian carpets were introduced. In England, as Erasmus recorded, floors were "covered in rushes, occasionally renewed, but so imperfectly that the bottom layer is left undisturbed, sometimes for 20 years, harbouring expectoration, vomiting, the leakage of dogs and men, ale droppings, scraps of fish, and other abominations not fit to be mentioned". Carpets, unsurprisingly, caught on quickly. Oh yeah right, thank Allah that my scraps of fish and "leakage of men" now have a carpet to soak into! Dumbass. 17 The modern cheque comes from the Arabic saqq, a written vow to pay for goods when they were delivered, to avoid money having to be transported across dangerous terrain. In the 9th century, a Muslim businessman could cash a cheque in China drawn on his bank in Baghdad. Then maybe you and the chinese should stick to sucking each other off instead of coming to America to poach our women like you do. 19 Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Crusaders. By the 15th century they had invented both a rocket, which they called a "self-moving and combusting egg", and a torpedo - a self-propelled pear-shaped bomb with a spear at the front which impaled itself in enemy ships and then blew up. Yes, because you are warlike animals, and any technology you are introduced to, your first thought is to kill your neighbors with it. As Jesus said, you are proud of the things you should be ashamed of. 20 Medieval Europe had kitchen and herb gardens, but it was the Arabs who developed the idea of the garden as a place of beauty and meditation. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FUCKING STUPID THAT SOUNDS??!! Europe had gardens, but the Moslem is supposed to get credit because he passed out in the garden after drinking too much fermented camel pee??? "OP I've corrected some typos in your opening post:" YOUR CORRECTIONS ARE ABOUT RIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MUSLIMS ALSO CREDIT FOR INVENTION OF CUTTING HEADS OFF AND DESTROYING ANCIENT CULTURES IN WHOLE MIDDLE EAST AND HERE IS MUSLIMS BEST INVENTION |
Wul User ID: 442265 United Kingdom 05/31/2008 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I've corrected some typos in your opening post: Quoting: jarha1 The story goes that an Arab named Khalid was fucking his goats in the Kaffa region of southern Ethiopia, when he noticed his animals became hornier after eating a certain berry. He boiled the berries to make the first coffee. Certainly the first record of the drink is of beans exported from Ethiopia to Yemen where Sufis drank it to stay awake all night to pray on special occasions because their religion is so boring. By the late 15th century it had arrived in Mecca and Turkey from where it made its way to Venice in 1645. It was brought to England in 1650 by a Turk named Pasqua Rosee who opened the first gay bath house in Lombard Street in the City of London. The Arabic qahwa became the Turkish kahve then the Italian caffé and then English coffee, proving that stimulant drugs were introduced to Anglos through goat-fucking moslems. 3 A form of chess was played in ancient India but the game was developed into the form we know it today in Persia. From there it spread westward to Europe - where it was introduced by the Moors in Spain in the 10th century - and eastward as far as Japan. The word rook comes from the Persian rukh, which means chariot, which makes no sense because in chess a 'rook' is a castle and so this fairy-tale is obviously bullshit. 4 A thousand years before the Wright brothers a Muslim poet, astronomer, musician and engineer named Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine. In 852 he jumped from the minaret of the Grand Mosque in Cordoba using a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts. He hoped to glide like a bird. He didn't. ...a crater on the Moon are named after him HAHAHAHAHAAAA. 5 Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims because they smell, which is perhaps why they try to take credit for the Aryan invention of soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil to try to kill their body lice and foul camel smell. 6 Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today to create alcoholic beverages - which they now snivel and bitch and blame Anglos about non-stop to anyone that will still listen. 7 The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari who was trying to cast dildoes shaped like his own corkscrew arab penis. Among his 50 other inventions was herpes. 8 Quilting is a method of sewing or tying two layers of cloth with a layer of insulating material in between. It is not clear whether it was invented in the Muslim world or whether it was imported there from India or China. But it certainly came to the West via the Crusaders. They saw it used by Saracen warriors, who wore straw-filled quilted canvas shirts instead of armour. As well as a form of protection, it proved an effective guard against the chafing of the Crusaders' metal armour and was an effective form of insulation - so much so that it became a cottage industry back home in colder climates such as Britain and Holland. How arabs can claim credit for originating it out of this account is a mystery. 9 Muslims living in tents try to claim credit for other people's architecture somehow. 10 Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised to help his moslem brothers try to maturbate are recognisable to a modern surgeon that has had to remove them from their asses in the emergency room. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey sex-slave ate his lute strings off of his own botched circumcision). Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes because even way back then as today, they traffic narcotics to white teen girls. ...and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.(oh really? by who? cataracts are in the LENSE you retard, you cant suck them out with a needle) 12 The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it. CITE YOUR EVIDENCE 13 The fountain pen was invented for the Sultan of Egypt in 953 after he demanded a pen which would not stain his hands or clothes because he was a klutz without opposible thumbs. 15 Ali ibn Nafi, known by his nickname of Ziryab (Blackbird) came from Iraq to Cordoba in the 9th century and brought with him the concept of the three-course meal - soup, followed by fish or meat, then fruit and nuts. Amazing! Clearly a MUCH HIGHER achievement than White man walking on the Moon!! Enjoy your soup and nuts, bitch! 16 Carpets were regarded as part of Paradise by medieval Muslims, thanks to their advanced weaving techniques, new tinctures from Islamic chemistry and highly developed sense of pattern and arabesque which were the basis of Islam's non-representational art. In contrast, Europe's floors were distinctly earthly, not to say earthy, until Arabian and Persian carpets were introduced. In England, as Erasmus recorded, floors were "covered in rushes, occasionally renewed, but so imperfectly that the bottom layer is left undisturbed, sometimes for 20 years, harbouring expectoration, vomiting, the leakage of dogs and men, ale droppings, scraps of fish, and other abominations not fit to be mentioned". Carpets, unsurprisingly, caught on quickly. Oh yeah right, thank Allah that my scraps of fish and "leakage of men" now have a carpet to soak into! Dumbass. 17 The modern cheque comes from the Arabic saqq, a written vow to pay for goods when they were delivered, to avoid money having to be transported across dangerous terrain. In the 9th century, a Muslim businessman could cash a cheque in China drawn on his bank in Baghdad. Then maybe you and the chinese should stick to sucking each other off instead of coming to America to poach our women like you do. 19 Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Crusaders. By the 15th century they had invented both a rocket, which they called a "self-moving and combusting egg", and a torpedo - a self-propelled pear-shaped bomb with a spear at the front which impaled itself in enemy ships and then blew up. Yes, because you are warlike animals, and any technology you are introduced to, your first thought is to kill your neighbors with it. As Jesus said, you are proud of the things you should be ashamed of. 20 Medieval Europe had kitchen and herb gardens, but it was the Arabs who developed the idea of the garden as a place of beauty and meditation. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW FUCKING STUPID THAT SOUNDS??!! Europe had gardens, but the Moslem is supposed to get credit because he passed out in the garden after drinking too much fermented camel pee??? "OP I've corrected some typos in your opening post:" YOUR CORRECTIONS ARE ABOUT RIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MUSLIMS ALSO CREDIT FOR INVENTION OF CUTTING HEADS OFF AND DESTROYING ANCIENT CULTURES IN WHOLE MIDDLE EAST AND HERE IS MUSLIMS BEST INVENTION I take it English is foreign to you? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 412329 United States 05/31/2008 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Set against what America has given the world (light, flight, cars, computers, satellites, diapers, washing machines, everything that brought us out of the dark ages, and you will see how lacking your list is OP, and it took us about 300 years, not 10,000. That's what cooperation and diversity does. |
jarha User ID: 366763 United States 05/31/2008 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Set against what America has given the world (light, flight, cars, computers, satellites, diapers, washing machines, everything that brought us out of the dark ages, and you will see how lacking your list is OP, and it took us about 300 years, not 10,000. That's what cooperation and diversity does. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 412329I DON'T THINK THEY EVER INVENTED ANYTHING. OH I'M SORRY I FORGOT, THEY INVENTED ALLAH |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 437732 United States 05/31/2008 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP I've corrected some typos in your opening post: Quoting: jarha1 The story goes that an Arab named Khalid was fucking his goats in the Kaffa region of southern Ethiopia, when he noticed his animals became hornier after eating a certain berry. He boiled the berries to make the first coffee. Certainly the first record of the drink is of beans exported from Ethiopia to Yemen where Sufis drank it to stay awake all night to pray on special occasions because their religion is so boring. By the late 15th century it d against the chafing of the Crusaders' metal armour and was an effective form of insulation - so much so that it became a cottage industry back home in colder climates such as Britain and Holland. How arabs can claim credit for originating it out of this account is a mystery. 9 Muslims living in tents try to claim credit for other people's architecture somehow. 10 Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim s Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes because even way back then as today, they traffic narcotics to white teen girls. ...and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.(oh really? by who? cataracts are in the LENSE you retard, you cant suck them out with a needle) 1uts, bitch! 16 Carpets were regarded as part of Paradise by medieval Muslims, thanks to their advanced weaving techniques, new tinctures from Islamic chemistry and highly developed sense of pattern and arabesque which were the basis of Islam's s dangerous terrain. In the 9th century, a Muslim businessman could cash a cheque in China drawn on his bank in Baghdad. Then maybe you and the chinese should stick to sucking each other off instead of coming to America to poach our women like you do. 19 Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Cis supposed to get credit because he passed out in the garden after drinking too much fermented camel pee??? "OP I've corrected some typos in your opening post:" YOUR CORRECTIONS ARE ABOUT RIGHT I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE MUSLIMS ALSO CREDIT FOR INVENTION OF CUTTING HEADS OFF AND DESTROYING ANCIENT CULTURES IN WHOLE MIDDLE EAST AND HERE IS MUSLIMS BEST INVENTION :GOATSEX: Why is the Jew so full of hate? Is it jealousy? |
Wul User ID: 442265 United Kingdom 05/31/2008 06:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Set against what America has given the world (light, flight, cars, computers, satellites, diapers, washing machines, everything that brought us out of the dark ages, and you will see how lacking your list is OP, and it took us about 300 years, not 10,000. That's what cooperation and diversity does. Quoting: jarhaI DON'T THINK THEY EVER INVENTED ANYTHING. OH I'M SORRY I FORGOT, THEY INVENTED ALLAH Where were the jews in Israel in the intervening twenty centuries while arabs/persians invented? |
Wul User ID: 442265 United Kingdom 05/31/2008 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Set against what America has given the world (light, flight, cars, computers, satellites, diapers, washing machines, everything that brought us out of the dark ages, and you will see how lacking your list is OP, and it took us about 300 years, not 10,000. That's what cooperation and diversity does. Quoting: WulI DON'T THINK THEY EVER INVENTED ANYTHING. OH I'M SORRY I FORGOT, THEY INVENTED ALLAH Where were the jews in Israel in the intervening twenty centuries while arabs/persians invented? Pray tell jarhead? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 437732 United States 05/31/2008 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Set against what America has given the world (light, flight, cars, computers, satellites, diapers, washing machines, everything that brought us out of the dark ages, and you will see how lacking your list is OP, and it took us about 300 years, not 10,000. That's what cooperation and diversity does. Quoting: WulI DON'T THINK THEY EVER INVENTED ANYTHING. OH I'M SORRY I FORGOT, THEY INVENTED ALLAH Where were the jews in Israel in the intervening twenty centuries while arabs/persians invented? Pray tell jarhead? Picking pockets, loansharking, and getting thrown out of every country on the planet? |
jarha User ID: 366763 United States 05/31/2008 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Set against what America has given the world (light, flight, cars, computers, satellites, diapers, washing machines, everything that brought us out of the dark ages, and you will see how lacking your list is OP, and it took us about 300 years, not 10,000. That's what cooperation and diversity does. Quoting: jarhaI DON'T THINK THEY EVER INVENTED ANYTHING. OH I'M SORRY I FORGOT, THEY INVENTED ALLAH |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 443418 United States 05/31/2008 07:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Set against what America has given the world (light, flight, cars, computers, satellites, diapers, washing machines, everything that brought us out of the dark ages, and you will see how lacking your list is OP, and it took us about 300 years, not 10,000. That's what cooperation and diversity does. Quoting: WulI DON'T THINK THEY EVER INVENTED ANYTHING. OH I'M SORRY I FORGOT, THEY INVENTED ALLAH Where were the jews in Israel in the intervening twenty centuries while arabs/persians invented? They were screwing the goys in Europe. |