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Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail

 
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This appears to be legit and neither side are very effective on offense. That has been blatantly obvious since the begining.

This war is like the idiots guide of what not to do in war.
 Quoting: Bastage


Without air power, it is just a slugfest.

The Russians are now using Air more than the Ukies, but they still cannot concentrate that power because of the AD threats.
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
WE GONNA TRY THIS ONE AGAIN?

KETTLING.
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Try what?

Russia trying to take Avdiivka again?
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NO, THIS THREAD. THE SAME ONE WAS HERE ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO AND IT WAS DELETED FROM THE DATABASE.

I POSTED TWO RESPONSES ABOUT HOW RETARDED IT IS TO SHOW A MAP OF THEM SURROUNDED IN A KETTLING TACTIC AND PRETEND IT'S SOME KIND OF VICTORY.

THEN IT WAS GONE.
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NO, THIS THREAD. THE SAME ONE WAS HERE ABOUT 2 HOURS AGO AND IT WAS DELETED FROM THE DATABASE.

I POSTED TWO RESPONSES ABOUT HOW RETARDED IT IS TO SHOW A MAP OF THEM SURROUNDED IN A KETTLING TACTIC AND PRETEND IT'S SOME KIND OF VICTORY.

THEN IT WAS GONE.
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Why would anyone censor this, Comrade Capslock?
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YOU TELL ME, IT WAS YOUR THREAD.
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Fuck off, Comrade Capslock.
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isw = kagan = j

israel taking l's everywhere now...boo hoo
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More goofy fake war propaganda. Give it up, no one gives a shit, we're numb to the lies and bullshit at this point.
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Massacre of Ukrainian reserves in Avdifka in suicide missions - Ukrainian MP: "Became a second meat grinder - Zelensky's tragic mistakes"

[link to warnews247-gr.translate.goog (secure)]

Doesn’t sound good for ukraine to me
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This entire thread, bar one or two posts, is pure propaganda.
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
This appears to be legit and neither side are very effective on offense. That has been blatantly obvious since the begining.

This war is like the idiots guide of what not to do in war.
 Quoting: Bastage


Without air power, it is just a slugfest.

The Russians are now using Air more than the Ukies, but they still cannot concentrate that power because of the AD threats.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


And after fives weeks of trying, your glorious Russian army hasn't been about to take Avdiivka. At what cost? Who knows.

I know that must be difficult for you.
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hopefully zelensky and his koh shure krew all get seized and dragged behind vehicles before they can abscond
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
This appears to be legit and neither side are very effective on offense. That has been blatantly obvious since the begining.

This war is like the idiots guide of what not to do in war.
 Quoting: Bastage


Without air power, it is just a slugfest.

The Russians are now using Air more than the Ukies, but they still cannot concentrate that power because of the AD threats.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


And after fives weeks of trying, your glorious Russian army hasn't been about to take Avdiivka. At what cost? Who knows.

I know that must be difficult for you.
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pleased to bringing the rape & robbery to okinawa?
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So now the Russian trolls are going to try and derail the thread by spamming Soviet style Russian military propaganda music videos?

That's how you know this is not going well for them.

chuckle
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Did any of you really think Ukraine was going to allow Avdiivka to be encircled?

Take a look at the new blue areas in the circle that have been recaptured by Ukraine.

They've taken the experience gained from Bakhmut and created a new and improved meat cube factory.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86403549


Avdiivka was one of the first towns attacked and occupied by Russia following their invasion in February 2022. Ukraine retook Avdiivka from the Russian occupiers in September of this year. Russia launched their first failed assault and attempt to retake Avdiivka on October 10th. They are still trying to retake it today.

Russia has plenty of conscripts to throw into the assaults and lots of equipment left and will likely be able to take the town eventually but it has been and will be very, very costly.

And all this without any other gains the ground in Ukraine by the world's 2nd most powerful military. It's kind of amazing actually.
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Step away from the crack pipe Bozo ......
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More goofy fake war propaganda. Give it up, no one gives a shit, we're numb to the lies and bullshit at this point.
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So even after Russian State Media has confirmed this and it's all out there for everyone to see, are you trying to convince us that yes, Russia has victoriously taken and holds Avdiivka?

Can you confirm this huge breaking news?
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80772554


Did any of you really think Ukraine was going to allow Avdiivka to be encircled?

Take a look at the new blue areas in the circle that have been recaptured by Ukraine.

They've taken the experience gained from Bakhmut and created a new and improved meat cube factory.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86403549


Avdiivka was one of the first towns attacked and occupied by Russia following their invasion in February 2022. Ukraine retook Avdiivka from the Russian occupiers in September of this year. Russia launched their first failed assault and attempt to retake Avdiivka on October 10th. They are still trying to retake it today.

Russia has plenty of conscripts to throw into the assaults and lots of equipment left and will likely be able to take the town eventually but it has been and will be very, very costly.

And all this without any other gains the ground in Ukraine by the world's 2nd most powerful military. It's kind of amazing actually.
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Step away from the crack pipe Bozo ......
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it's not a crack pipe it's a mohel's ultra-realistic slurping training device
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80772554


Did any of you really think Ukraine was going to allow Avdiivka to be encircled?

Take a look at the new blue areas in the circle that have been recaptured by Ukraine.

They've taken the experience gained from Bakhmut and created a new and improved meat cube factory.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86403549


Avdiivka was one of the first towns attacked and occupied by Russia following their invasion in February 2022. Ukraine retook Avdiivka from the Russian occupiers in September of this year. Russia launched their first failed assault and attempt to retake Avdiivka on October 10th. They are still trying to retake it today.

Russia has plenty of conscripts to throw into the assaults and lots of equipment left and will likely be able to take the town eventually but it has been and will be very, very costly.

And all this without any other gains the ground in Ukraine by the world's 2nd most powerful military. It's kind of amazing actually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86143692


Step away from the crack pipe Bozo ......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77195123


That's objective fact.

Can you point out which part you believe is not true?
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More goofy fake war propaganda. Give it up, no one gives a shit, we're numb to the lies and bullshit at this point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86369105


So even after Russian State Media has confirmed this and it's all out there for everyone to see, are you trying to convince us that yes, Russia has victoriously taken and holds Avdiivka?

Can you confirm this huge breaking news?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84016954


i can confirm that israel will never ever hold ukraine as a captive state thus dooming them.....

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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Most military & Intel analysts i follow agre that Ukraine lost over 90,000 men since june 4th 2023 & over 500,000 men since feb 2022
Russia 8 times less
They also agree tha Russia's casualties have been reducing in number over the course of this year.
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So what verifiable sources are those numbers from?

I mean, besides Russian propaganda Twitter accounts?
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Suck it up Princess ........
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Official

Russia is the number one military in the world

Yeah

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Pukraine going to lose.

Will eventually try to negotiate a retarded deal and get their ass kicked more.
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Right.

In two weeks after Putin takes the gloves off and launches the Mother of All Battles, right?

How many times have we heard that?

They have been trying to take the village of Avdiivka for more than a month now and haven't even been successful with that.
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specialstupid
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Official

Russia is the number one military in the world

Yeah


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I dunno about that claim but they are for sure at least the second most powerful military in Ukraine.
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Most military & Intel analysts i follow agre that Ukraine lost over 90,000 men since june 4th 2023 & over 500,000 men since feb 2022
Russia 8 times less
They also agree tha Russia's casualties have been reducing in number over the course of this year. [twitter] [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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So what verifiable sources are those numbers from?

I mean, besides Russian propaganda Twitter accounts?
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Suck it up Princess ........
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Great source with rock solid verification of your claim, Ivan.

Have another shot of vodka on us.
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i wonder if the cocaine lab rat zelensky will be killed first then dragged through the streets or dragged through the streets and then killed by enraged ukrainians?
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Don't send your fine young men into battle. Use nukes.
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This appears to be legit and neither side are very effective on offense. That has been blatantly obvious since the begining.

This war is like the idiots guide of what not to do in war.
 Quoting: Bastage


Without air power, it is just a slugfest.

The Russians are now using Air more than the Ukies, but they still cannot concentrate that power because of the AD threats.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii



You are right, it just should have never been like this. Russia should have taken out everything they have by now.

The city they are attacking has been costly, Russia will take it, but why are they even having an issue. Everything in Ukraine is in range at all times. They have overwhelming numbers and firepower.

But they still can’t get their forces to coordinate for an offensive after almost 2 years of fighting. Defense? That’s no problem, that’s easy for them.

Although impossible to verify, I’m begining to think the early reports of many Russian officers being killed was not propaganda and that would explain a lot if true.
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Russia’s nearly monthlong offensive on the eastern Ukrainian stronghold of Avdiivka has made only minimal progress despite the battle forming the focal point of Moscow’s war effort for weeks.

The Russian army launched a large-scale offensive on Avdiivka, a small industrial hub north of the city of Donetsk, on Oct. 10 in what is seen as an attempt to break the deadlock at the front after 20 months of war.

Moscow is throwing large amounts of soldiers and resources into the fight in the hopes of capturing the small town that it previously unsuccessfully attempted to capture in 2014, when conflict broke out between Kyiv and pro-Russian separatists.

After four weeks of intense fighting with heavy artillery, tanks, and armored vehicles, Russia has captured some positions north, east and south of the town, taking heavy losses in the process.

Military analysts suggest that Russian troops are now attempting to encircle Avdiivka completely — an assertion repeated by Ukrainian officials this week.

“The third wave will definitely happen. The enemy is regrouping after a second wave of unsuccessful attacks,” Vitaly Barabash, head of the Avdiivka military administration, said Tuesday.

Ukrainian military expert Alexander Kovalenko initially saw the Russian army's offensive on Avdiivka as a targeted diversionary strike meant to distract Ukrainian forces from their counteroffensive in the Zaporizhzhia region to the south.

Units are being withdrawn from the 2nd Combined Arms Army, which had made minimal progress on the Kupiansk front during the summer.

This includes the 21st Separate Motor Rifle Brigade, considered the most combat-capable in the northern sector of the front.

“At first I thought that the Russian command was acting illogically and irrationally, and it was all merely a PR stance. Now it's clear that the attack on Avdiivka is not an intentional diversion but a political decision,” Kovalenko said.

“They want to encircle and capture the city, just as they did with Bakhmut, to demonstrate their capability to advance and also use it to coerce Ukraine into negotiations through their intermediaries.”

Russian forces have made some progress south of Avdiivka, near the village of Severne. To the north, combat has unfolded around a large waste mound near the Avdiivka Coke Plant, a tactical elevation point for both sides.

Moscow appears to have captured the waste mound, according to pro-war military bloggers, though Ukrainian sources say this territory remains a “grey zone."

The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said on Oct. 13 that Russian troops have suffered heavy losses in equipment and personnel during the assault on the city.

[link to www.themoscowtimes.com (secure)]
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Dude, who gives a shit about banker wars and distractions brought to you by your cabal. As long as you talk about this non relevant shit you are still a little good slave in your masters matrix. Go discuss other stuff like how people should be educated to learn who their real masters are, how to be self sufficient and leave shithole cattle herding cities.
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USA to Europe media headlines, 85% the world laughs

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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Americans never listen.

Russia doesn't want Ukraine.

Those that chose by Democracy to join Russia after years of US funded genocide have been taken into the fold.

The rest of them - are getting de Nazified.

The fast you help Ukraine - the more of them that die.

Russia will then have a pacified neutral state on its borders, as all the pro Western people are - fertiliser.

Americans are such fools!
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Americans never listen.

Russia doesn't want Ukraine.

Those that chose by Democracy to join Russia after years of US funded genocide have been taken into the fold.

The rest of them - are getting de Nazified.

The fast you help Ukraine - the more of them that die.

Russia will then have a pacified neutral state on its borders, as all the pro Western people are - fertiliser.

Americans are such fools!
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Russia doesn't want Ukraine.

So they invaded in 2014 and illegally annexed Crimea, which is recognized as valid by a total of five other countries in the world.

Then they invaded again in 2022 to try and seize the rest of Ukraine, which Russia doesn't want.
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
This appears to be legit and neither side are very effective on offense. That has been blatantly obvious since the begining.

This war is like the idiots guide of what not to do in war.
 Quoting: Bastage


Without air power, it is just a slugfest.

The Russians are now using Air more than the Ukies, but they still cannot concentrate that power because of the AD threats.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


19 months and Russia still can't take out Ukrainian air defense?

That's your explainer for what they got pushed out of Avdiivka and can't take it back?

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