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Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail

 
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This appears to be legit and neither side are very effective on offense. That has been blatantly obvious since the begining.

This war is like the idiots guide of what not to do in war.
 Quoting: Bastage


Without air power, it is just a slugfest.

The Russians are now using Air more than the Ukies, but they still cannot concentrate that power because of the AD threats.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


19 months and Russia still can't take out Ukrainian air defense?

That's your explainer for what they got pushed out of Avdiivka and can't take it back?

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Ukrainian Air Defense is LONG GONE….
what they are now using isn’t Ukrainian, and it sure as hell is not being run by them.

The Iron Dome/Patriot rocket issue in Israel is really putting the hurt on available supplies.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Ukrainian Air Defense is LONG GONE….?

Really? So why are Russian aircraft still getting shot down?

Friendly fire with Russians shooting their own planes down?
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Shoulda stayed home.
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Same thing happened at Mariupol.

Massive industrial structure with lots of tunnels and underground levels.

It will take a lot of heavy ordainance and lots of death on both sides, then Russia will take the objective.

They should have it down to a science by now.

They have those heavy Tulip Mortars, and that Kinzhal missile seems pretty good at destroying deep underground bunkers. I'm amazed they have not just run some heavier than air poison gas into the bunkered areas, but they have been pretty good about obeying the Geneva convention, even though Ukraine and whoever fights for them do not.





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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Same thing happened at Mariupol.

Massive industrial structure with lots of tunnels and underground levels.

It will take a lot of heavy ordainance and lots of death on both sides, then Russia will take the objective.

They should have it down to a science by now.

They have those heavy Tulip Mortars, and that Kinzhal missile seems pretty good at destroying deep underground bunkers. I'm amazed they have not just run some heavier than air poison gas into the bunkered areas, but they have been pretty good about obeying the Geneva convention, even though Ukraine and whoever fights for them do not.



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Sure, the glorious Russian army has it down to a science. They had to retreat from Avdiivka under Ukrainian attack and they’ve been trying to recapture the village for almost six weeks and they’ve still failed as of now.

And you’re saying you’re amazed that Russia hasn’t resorted to chemical warfare?

FFS you vatniks are wingnuts.
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Russia is still trying with more meat wave assaults

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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Try, try again…

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Bakhmut script recycled: "The Russians are throwing human wave meat!" yawn...Ukraine now uses old people, literal retards, sick people and woman, that's all you need to know.
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Bakhmut script recycled: "The Russians are throwing human wave meat!" yawn...Ukraine now uses old people, literal retards, sick people and woman, that's all you need to know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79358321


I guess those “old people, literal retards, sick people and woman” are good warfighters then because Russia has been throwing everything they’ve got at Avdiivka for more than six weeks and still haven’t taken it.
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In case you’re wondering how Russians “motivate” troops into suicidal “meat wave” assaults.

"I realized I got directly to hell": a Russian POW told about cruel torture in the Russian army.

Roman Gribko was serving a prison sentence for stabbing murder. A year later, he signed a contract with the Russian ministry of defense to go to war.

Gribko and other prisoners were shocked by what was happening in the army. They could easily be shot or brutally tortured for disobeying orders: "I saw a squad leader shot. He didn't follow orders". Another soldier's "arms and legs were chopped off, then his head. All this was put in a box, and in the morning they blew it up on an anti-tank mine, so that there would be no evidence".

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Wowser. Pine this for epic discussion about how ruskies are winning again.

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In case you’re wondering how Russians “motivate” troops into suicidal “meat wave” assaults.

"I realized I got directly to hell": a Russian POW told about cruel torture in the Russian army.

Roman Gribko was serving a prison sentence for stabbing murder. A year later, he signed a contract with the Russian ministry of defense to go to war.

Gribko and other prisoners were shocked by what was happening in the army. They could easily be shot or brutally tortured for disobeying orders: "I saw a squad leader shot. He didn't follow orders". Another soldier's "arms and legs were chopped off, then his head. All this was put in a box, and in the morning they blew it up on an anti-tank mine, so that there would be no evidence".


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77777500


propoganda

Even western media is finally saying it’s time to stop the “magical thinking” that Ukraine is winning this war.
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Putler took off his gloves jerkit again
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Russia is running out of drones

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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
So it seems the dumb ukranians are falling for the trap once again. Russians once again pretending they are losing in a place so ukraine throw men at it like a complete mince meat grinder.

ukraine are now at the stage where they are sending disabled and pregnant women to the front lines, whilst Russia still don't even use their proper army.

Only a matter of time now and let's face it, Russia could carpet bomb ukraine to the stone age if it wanted, like Israel are doing.

The age if nazis in ukraine is almost over.
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Now the whole world watches and understands what real war is. Russia does not fight a war it conducts a special military operation, because we have never used the tactics and approach that Israel uses - carpet bombing, etc. In Gaza, more children died in the first month of the war than in almost two years in Ukraine,” according to Australian journalist and public figure Simeon Boikov
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76658155


Russia ran out of weapons months ago, those were flying shovels.

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This is the west's quagmire

Not russias
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Wowser. Pine this for epic discussion about how ruskies are winning again.

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Not yet but soon.

Doug Macgregor says total glorious victory for Russia in ten days.

Confirmed by Pedo Scott Ritter and Zerohedge.
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This is the west's quagmire

Not russias
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Tell that to the tens of thousands of Russians quagmired in the mud and trenches in Ukraine.

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I use to think Russia couldn’t win but after seeing their total disregard for their own soldiers lives I have changed my mind. They just have a way larger population and don’t seem to care how many of them are killed. I guess if they win those deaths will be replaced by those they’ve conquered.
The breath of Putin ass lickers smells just as bad as the breath of Biden ass lickers
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So it seems the dumb ukranians are falling for the trap once again. Russians once again pretending they are losing in a place so ukraine throw men at it like a complete mince meat grinder.

ukraine are now at the stage where they are sending disabled and pregnant women to the front lines, whilst Russia still don't even use their proper army.

Only a matter of time now and let's face it, Russia could carpet bomb ukraine to the stone age if it wanted, like Israel are doing.

The age if nazis in ukraine is almost over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86069499


Russia cannot carpet bomb Ukraine, they would lose all their bombers.
The breath of Putin ass lickers smells just as bad as the breath of Biden ass lickers
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Now the whole world watches and understands what real war is. Russia does not fight a war it conducts a special military operation, because we have never used the tactics and approach that Israel uses - carpet bombing, etc. In Gaza, more children died in the first month of the war than in almost two years in Ukraine,” according to Australian journalist and public figure Simeon Boikov
 Quoting: jab2014


Deaths of children differ because Ukraine values life and evacuates civilians from war zones while Hamas hides and fights among them so their deaths can be used as propaganda so idiots like you can justify cheering for the bad guys.

Have you seen Bakhmut? It is totally destroyed, makes Gaza look like child’s play but the Ukrainians didn’t force children to stay there and be killed for propaganda.
The breath of Putin ass lickers smells just as bad as the breath of Biden ass lickers
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80772554


Did any of you really think Ukraine was going to allow Avdiivka to be encircled?

Take a look at the new blue areas in the circle that have been recaptured by Ukraine.

They've taken the experience gained from Bakhmut and created a new and improved meat cube factory.


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86403549


Avdiivka was one of the first towns attacked and occupied by Russia following their invasion in February 2022. Ukraine retook Avdiivka from the Russian occupiers in September of this year. Russia launched their first failed assault and attempt to retake Avdiivka on October 10th. They are still trying to retake it today.

Russia has plenty of conscripts to throw into the assaults and lots of equipment left and will likely be able to take the town eventually but it has been and will be very, very costly.

And all this without any other gains the ground in Ukraine by the world's 2nd most powerful military. It's kind of amazing actually.
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Step away from the crack pipe Bozo ......
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Dude is just straight up lying now…
The Russians bypassed Avdeevka because it was too well fortified.
The Russians didn’t couldn’t even take the old KGB base at the edge of the airport until they outflanked it last November.
 Quoting: Flying Elvii


Total horseshit.
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Many people are trying to link a avdiivka with the battle of Bakhmut. There are some differences.

1. In the lead up the Russians had far more artillery then they do now
2. The Russians started off with far better troops (lots of VDV)
3. When the VDV was exhausted the Russians turned to Wagner.
4. Wagner had nearly everything they needed for the assault
5. Russian airforce was able to fly over the city due to the nearly exhausted Ukrainian air defense
6. At the time its estimated that Russia had about 10 million rounds of all types on hand
7. Ukraine never fully reinforced Bakhmut and allowed for a fighting rear action to leave the city

Now today…

1. Russia does not have a clear advantage in the number or type of artillery.
2. The Russians are now using more mobilized reserve forces and TD brigades.
3. To this point only a few SPF (SF) troops, and the 13th assault battalion (DPR) have been used with no verified VDV or other high quality troops being seen.
4. On some assaults PT-76s and other out of date vehicles have been seen on the attack.
5. Due to more air defense the Russian airforce has taken high losses around AVD.
6. Russia is having to bring in North Korean rounds to make up for Russian stockpiles being exhausted. The NK rounds are known for being a danger to the crews using them now.
7. Ukraine has moved into the area 12 brigade sized units to defend the city





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