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Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail

 
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And they’re still trying…
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Many people are trying to link a avdiivka with the battle of Bakhmut. There are some differences.

1. In the lead up the Russians had far more artillery then they do now
2. The Russians started off with far better troops (lots of VDV)
3. When the VDV was exhausted the Russians turned to Wagner.
4. Wagner had nearly everything they needed for the assault
5. Russian airforce was able to fly over the city due to the nearly exhausted Ukrainian air defense
6. At the time its estimated that Russia had about 10 million rounds of all types on hand
7. Ukraine never fully reinforced Bakhmut and allowed for a fighting rear action to leave the city

Now today…

1. Russia does not have a clear advantage in the number or type of artillery.
2. The Russians are now using more mobilized reserve forces and TD brigades.
3. To this point only a few SPF (SF) troops, and the 13th assault battalion (DPR) have been used with no verified VDV or other high quality troops being seen.
4. On some assaults PT-76s and other out of date vehicles have been seen on the attack.
5. Due to more air defense the Russian airforce has taken high losses around AVD.
6. Russia is having to bring in North Korean rounds to make up for Russian stockpiles being exhausted. The NK rounds are known for being a danger to the crews using them now.
7. Ukraine has moved into the area 12 brigade sized units to defend the city
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Many people are trying to link a avdiivka with the battle of Bakhmut. There are some differences.

1. In the lead up the Russians had far more artillery then they do now
2. The Russians started off with far better troops (lots of VDV)
3. When the VDV was exhausted the Russians turned to Wagner.
4. Wagner had nearly everything they needed for the assault
5. Russian airforce was able to fly over the city due to the nearly exhausted Ukrainian air defense
6. At the time its estimated that Russia had about 10 million rounds of all types on hand
7. Ukraine never fully reinforced Bakhmut and allowed for a fighting rear action to leave the city

Now today…

1. Russia does not have a clear advantage in the number or type of artillery.
2. The Russians are now using more mobilized reserve forces and TD brigades.
3. To this point only a few SPF (SF) troops, and the 13th assault battalion (DPR) have been used with no verified VDV or other high quality troops being seen.
4. On some assaults PT-76s and other out of date vehicles have been seen on the attack.
5. Due to more air defense the Russian airforce has taken high losses around AVD.
6. Russia is having to bring in North Korean rounds to make up for Russian stockpiles being exhausted. The NK rounds are known for being a danger to the crews using them now.
7. Ukraine has moved into the area 12 brigade sized units to defend the city
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Just a BS flag.

What specifically do you disagree with there. Looks accurate from what I’ve read.
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
A Ukrainian channel, in a scrolling line, published information about more than 1.1 million deceased and missing military personnel.
The channel's leadership later apologized for the "typo" after a call from Zelensky's office.
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
I'd bet the ratfaces at monsanto and blackrock are grinding their teeth over all the land they're losing to russia
ohyeah
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Russian meat got very cheap in Ukraine.
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
Russia tries for months to capture a small village from a third-world country. Russia sure ain't a military superpower.
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
I see the ruskies are using the zapp Brannigan strategy.

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I see the ruskies are using the zapp Brannigan strategy.

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What’s that?
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
I see the ruskies are using the zapp Brannigan strategy.

5a
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What’s that?
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"Let's choke their rivers with our dead!"
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Re: Russia Throws Men and Firepower at Ukraine’s Avdiivka In Their Third Attempt to Capture the City to Little Avail
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I still can't tell if Russians are very very brave, or very very stupid. Imagine being sent on a suicide attack mission on a front line where you have to step over the corpses of those who were sent there yesterday, and you still go.





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