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John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom

 
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so he is batshit crazy. got it.
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Nonsense
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Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom
One, the Dead Sea scrolls contain precisely zero info about Jesus, because they were written 200-300 BC.

One text, however, did predict that Jesus would be born between 6BC and 3AD, by utilizing OT prophesies. Not bad, considering Jesus was born 3BC.

To assert that Jesus was not an historical figure requires that all extrabiblical texts about Christ be ignored.

Evrn the atheist scholars refuse to do this. They KNOW He was a real person. They simply debate Jesus' divinity.
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Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom
The mushroom was used to communicate with the gods.

He’s not the only one who believed Jesus was a spirit and never existed in the flesh.

I prefer to think of Jesus is the spirit wasn’t crucified by his father as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. It’s nonsense story doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. None.
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I heard that a about Santa Claus, many times. But never about Jesus. Interesting.
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so he is batshit crazy. got it.
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This is the result of the finite attempting to explain the infinite.
How could the limited ever explain or comprehend the unlimited?
Yet fools try.
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I prefer to think of Jesus is the spirit wasn’t crucified by his father as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. It’s nonsense story doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. None.
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Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom
The mushroom was used to communicate with the gods.

He’s not the only one who believed Jesus was a spirit and never existed in the flesh.

I prefer to think of Jesus is the spirit wasn’t crucified by his father as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. It’s nonsense story doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. None.
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Agree... It didn't happen, at least not in the way it was described... They used real life references to describe the spiritual inner workings of man and illustrate a narrative that gives insight into the relationship between the universe and man. As above so below... Or, on earth as it is in heaven.

Jesus is basically a representation of what a holy man would experience when coming out and declaring his own divinity. It represents the path that one travels during the awakening process.

Jesus could have been a real man, and embodies the principles that were then written down into a narrative to describe the lifecycle of everyone. Jesus said he is out brother, meaning he is just like us, but the Christ that lives in him, also dwells in us, when we become born again.

Its a story of reawakening to the divinity within, and he is our guide to follow
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The mushroom was used to communicate with the gods.

He’s not the only one who believed Jesus was a spirit and never existed in the flesh.

I prefer to think of Jesus is the spirit wasn’t crucified by his father as a blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins. It’s nonsense story doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. None.
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Agree... It didn't happen, at least not in the way it was described... They used real life references to describe the spiritual inner workings of man and illustrate a narrative that gives insight into the relationship between the universe and man. As above so below... Or, on earth as it is in heaven.

Jesus is basically a representation of what a holy man would experience when coming out and declaring his own divinity. It represents the path that one travels during the awakening process.

Jesus could have been a real man, and embodies the principles that were then written down into a narrative to describe the lifecycle of everyone. Jesus said he is out brother, meaning he is just like us, but the Christ that lives in him, also dwells in us, when we become born again.

And Christ isnt just the serpent energy... The serpent energy (related to cerebral spinal fluid)... That energy can be good or bad depending on how it's directed. The Christ is a stable resonant frequency that comes into being when the pinael gland is activated. It resets and reorients the brain chemistry and synapsis. Basically the god center of the brain becomes more active and then one begins to experience the supernatural. When that energy activates the brain in that way, there becomes a stable diffusion of energy and when one enters Into that mindset, above thought, then they enter in and become the Christ and a Christ... One with the all and one with the self... A wheel within a wheel or a Christ within a Christ... As above, so below, on earth as it is in heaven... The two become one because they now resonate in harmony... Magic mushrooms also activate the god center of rhe brain and cause bounderies to dissolve

Its a story of reawakening to the divinity within, and he is our guide to follow
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Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom
So Jesus was a new Strain of Mushroom that appeared 3AD? Fascinating!
I suppose it appeared in Portugal.
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Santa Clause is REAL. I have FAITH.
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so he is batshit crazy. got it.
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This is the result of the finite attempting to explain the infinite.
How could the limited ever explain or comprehend the unlimited?
Yet fools try.
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It's another example of 'reductionism' to reduce religion to
mushrooms, or to crazy people.

Likewise it's reductionism to reduce infinity to finite parts. Eg. like we reduce time to hours, hours to minutes, minutes to seconds, seconds to micro-seconds, micro-seconds to Planck-time, or Chronons, or Zepto-seconds or idk what all.

Reality is a whole. (holy)
Our ego-consciousness however needs to experience it in parts. We call it mundane life. But if infinite-reality is 'whole', then the infinite is in the parts too.

The mushrooms are symbolic of this in that they each resemble the whole; the individual and the whole (species).
Jesus said, "I and my Father are One."
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Stupid and blasphemous.
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Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom
The mushroom helps you to become like Jesus. Until then you Christians are weak Bible controlled sheep. Your cross and blood sacrifice irrelevant
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They will twist and distort scripture…


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They will twist and distort scripture…


unto their own destruction
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The Romans already did that to the NT sheep
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One, the Dead Sea scrolls contain precisely zero info about Jesus, because they were written 200-300 BC.

One text, however, did predict that Jesus would be born between 6BC and 3AD, by utilizing OT prophesies. Not bad, considering Jesus was born 3BC.

To assert that Jesus was not an historical figure requires that all extrabiblical texts about Christ be ignored.

Evrn the atheist scholars refuse to do this. They KNOW He was a real person. They simply debate Jesus' divinity.
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Josephus the historian documents the existence of Jesus, and Roman correspondence about him including his physical appearance
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They will twist and distort scripture…


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Not really.

If we are "made in the image of God", then mushrooms symbolize this in that each individual mushroom is an image of the whole species itself.

In Genesis God creates the heavens and the Earth.
Then in Gen. 3 there is a fall of man. The fall of man
allegory represents separation from God, or the breaking apart from wholeness into individuality. Breaking down
is also known as corruption.

The German word 'Zerfall' means decay. (like how atoms decay into more stable elements over time.) In the communion service the priest breaks the bread. The bread is a round
loaf which is separated and distributed to the faithful.
The breaking of the bread and the eating of it bring us back to wholeness with Christ. The chalice contains the blood of Christ. Each sip of the content wine = a fraction of the whole content. The whole isn't permanently fractured since all the fractions = the whole.

The original is still there in the parts.
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Putin was a Magic Mushroom
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Putin is a Magic Mushroom
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So the Zerfall (decay) of man represents a disintegration/individuation.
The goal of re-ligion is the re-integration of man to wholeness.
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Well he'll answer for that for all eternity in hell.
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magic nushrooms and wine party cult.

sounds dionysian.
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so he is batshit crazy. got it.
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Nonsense
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it's important to realize Allegro joined the dead sea scroll project with an agenda.

by the time he was involved he had already fallen away from faith and was dead set (no pun intended) on coming up with a more esoteric understanding of scripture that conveniently combined social direction and religion.

he was reading his philosophy into scripture not allowing scripture to direct his philosophy.
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Re: John Marco Allegro - Vatican scholar, head translator of the dead sea scrolls, fluent in Aramaic, claimed that Jesus was a Magic Mushroom
One, the Dead Sea scrolls contain precisely zero info about Jesus, because they were written 200-300 BC.

One text, however, did predict that Jesus would be born between 6BC and 3AD, by utilizing OT prophesies. Not bad, considering Jesus was born 3BC.

To assert that Jesus was not an historical figure requires that all extrabiblical texts about Christ be ignored.

Evrn the atheist scholars refuse to do this. They KNOW He was a real person. They simply debate Jesus' divinity.
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Wut?
There’s many scholars who assert Jesus was not a historical figure.
There were at least 77 “Christos” written of during this time.

And many of them also read the OT prophecies in some regard and calculated the time.
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They will twist and distort scripture…


unto their own destruction
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Not really.

If we are "made in the image of God", then mushrooms symbolize this in that each individual mushroom is an image of the whole species itself.

In Genesis God creates the heavens and the Earth.
Then in Gen. 3 there is a fall of man. The fall of man
allegory represents separation from God, or the breaking apart from wholeness into individuality. Breaking down
is also known as corruption.

The German word 'Zerfall' means decay. (like how atoms decay into more stable elements over time.) In the communion service the priest breaks the bread. The bread is a round
loaf which is separated and distributed to the faithful.
The breaking of the bread and the eating of it bring us back to wholeness with Christ. The chalice contains the blood of Christ. Each sip of the content wine = a fraction of the whole content. The whole isn't permanently fractured since all the fractions = the whole.

The original is still there in the parts.
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stop reaching... DNA is a much simpler explanation. If you really want to go down a rabbit hole why don't you ponder just what "junk" DNA might actually be...
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Allegro argued that Jesus in the Gospels was in fact a code for a type of hallucinogen, the Amanita muscaria, and that Christianity was the product of an ancient "sex-and-mushroom" cult.[29][30] Critical reaction was swift and harsh: fourteen British scholars (including Allegro's mentor at Oxford, Godfrey Driver) denounced it.[29] Sidnie White Crawford wrote of the publication of Sacred Mushroom, "Rightly or wrongly, Allegro would never be taken seriously as a scholar again."[31]

Allegro's theory of a shamanistic cult as the origin of Christianity was criticised sharply by Welsh historian Philip Jenkins who wrote that Allegro was an eccentric scholar who relied on texts that did not exist in quite the form he was citing them. Jenkins called the Sacred Mushroom and the Cross "possibly the single most ludicrous book on Jesus scholarship by a qualified academic".[32] Based on the reactions to the book, Allegro's publisher later apologized for issuing the book and Allegro was forced to resign his academic post.[25][30]


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