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What christians need to know about the hatred of Israel and western civilization

 
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Discernment is key to come out at the right side of history:


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Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
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you should amend your title to say :

"What christians need to know about hatred"


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A true Christian does NOT support israel

They understand they are anti-christian
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A true Christian does NOT support israel

They understand they are anti-christian
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hf
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Christians need to know that the Palestinians contain the real Jews.
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discern this

It has been comprehensively demonstrated that Palestinians are descendants of the ethnic Jews who converted to Christianity during the Byzantine era.
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Mar 16, 2021, 3:43 PM



The resting place of Abraham in Hebron, the father of both Jews and Arabs. Image source: Wikimedia Commons

Prefatory note: This column is a collaborative effort between myself and Palestinian activist Jason Christopher Damouni

There are few conflicts, if any, that draw greater attention from the global community than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Innumerable commentators on both sides of this feud are pessimistic and doubt that a solution will be forthcoming any time soon.

And yet there is a surprisingly simple, albeit often overlooked reason as to why things have gotten this bad.

Most international conflicts have so far been about parts of disputed territories.

However, this particular conflict isn’t only about disputed territory. It is about exclusive control over the entire territory.

These attitudes have resulted in a ‘zero sum’ mindset, where one team has to win completely and the other has to lose completely.

At the heart of it lies a fundamental belief that goes something like, ‘my people are the sole custodians of this land and your people are either imposters or foreigners, if not both’.

This sentiment can more or less be found among large sections of the public and the intelligentsia on both sides of this conflict.
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Many on the pro-Israel side of the fence cite Joan Peters’ ‘From a Time Immemorial’ as evidence that Palestinians aren’t even a real people, that apparently they only came into the land in the 19th and 20th centuries from surrounding areas like Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq due to Zionist migration from Europe creating new jobs and economic opportunities, therefore, they don’t really belong in Israel.

Similarly, many Palestinians cite Shlomo Sand’s ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’ to argue that Ashkenazi Jews aren’t even real Jews, that apparently they’re Slavic or Turkic Europeans who converted to Judaism during the Middle Ages, therefore, they don’t really belong in Palestine.

Both these books have been debunked by credible scholars.

It has been comprehensively demonstrated that Palestinians are descendants of the ethnic Jews who converted to Christianity during the Byzantine era.
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People often seem to forget the fact that when the Romans kicked out the Jews, they only kicked out the Jewish Jews who were participating in the independence struggles, such as the Bar Kokhba Revolt.

The Christian Jews who had become followers of Jesus Christ had taken on a much more pacifistic approach towards their Roman colonizers because Jesus taught everyone to “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s” as inscribed in Matthew 22:21.

Therefore, the Romans never actually kicked out every single ethnically Jewish person from the land.

These Christian Jews who got to remain on the land spoke Aramaic as a native tongue and continued to be ruled by the Romans who eventually embraced Christianity and became the Byzantine Christian empire.

This local ethnically Jewish Christianised population by the middle of the 3rd century began to split up between Aramaic speakers along the coast and Levantine Arabic speakers along the Jordan River and Greater Syria.

The Ghassanid Empire founded in 249 AD was Levantine Arabic by official language and Christian by religion that stretched across most of the Levant region.

This time-frame also produced a Roman Emperor called Philip the Arab who came from Syria. The Muslim Umayyad Empire conquered Jerusalem in 637 AD under the Caliph Omar Bin Khattab.

This resulted in a peace treaty with Sophronius the local Christian patriarch of Jerusalem who was already speaking Levantine Arabic before the introduction of Islam in the region.

One of the great myths is that the Arabic language and culture were only introduced into the land after Caliph Omar’s conquests.

But we can clearly see from the evidence of the Arab Christian Ghassanid Empire and Philip the Arab that the Arabic language and culture were around in the land and the broader Levant region 388 years before the conquest of Islam (Ghassanids est. 249 AD and Islamic conquest est. 637 AD).

The vast majority of the Palestinians trace their family histories back to these ethnic Jews who embraced Christianity and spoke both Aramaic and Arabic long before the arrival of Islam.

Many local Palestinians embraced Islam, some didn’t, and remained Christian.

Islam views Jews and Christians as Ahl al-Kitab (People of the Book, referring to the Old Testament) which came from the same God, and therefore gives them a special protected status.

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Real Jews didn't come from an unmentionable place in eastern Europe.
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Re: What christians need to know about the hatred of Israel and western civilization
Believing that you're better than everyone else and that anyone outside of your tribe are literally animals isn't very Christian.

Christiana better wake up.
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The nut kissere who run this place are obsessed with the religion larping childish bullshit. Sad you pander to retards as a defining character.
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Re: What christians need to know about the hatred of Israel and western civilization
All of it is manipulation and funded by the so called elites.

Israel is Rothschild creation.

See past all the programmed people, don't walk in their way, some neighbors can be dangerous due to culture, programming, or poverty issues and mindsets, but its not the people who did this ever.

I blame the leadership of all nations and the hidden hand groups pulling the strings.

So hate on any people, no. Keep your families safe from some people, yes.

Look at the management and blame them.
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Also Christians have been lied to. The actual historical and events, that wasn't where they said it was, much older, and not that location.
The Devil tries to convince everyone he doesn't exist.
The state tries to convince everyone they cannot resist.
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Re: What christians need to know about the hatred of Israel and western civilization
Discernment is key to come out at the right side of history:


 Quoting: Just†Me


discern this

It has been comprehensively demonstrated that Palestinians are descendants of the ethnic Jews who converted to Christianity during the Byzantine era.
and
Mar 16, 2021, 3:43 PM



The resting place of Abraham in Hebron, the father of both Jews and Arabs. Image source: Wikimedia Commons

Prefatory note: This column is a collaborative effort between myself and Palestinian activist Jason Christopher Damouni

There are few conflicts, if any, that draw greater attention from the global community than the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

Innumerable commentators on both sides of this feud are pessimistic and doubt that a solution will be forthcoming any time soon.

And yet there is a surprisingly simple, albeit often overlooked reason as to why things have gotten this bad.

Most international conflicts have so far been about parts of disputed territories.

However, this particular conflict isn’t only about disputed territory. It is about exclusive control over the entire territory.

These attitudes have resulted in a ‘zero sum’ mindset, where one team has to win completely and the other has to lose completely.

At the heart of it lies a fundamental belief that goes something like, ‘my people are the sole custodians of this land and your people are either imposters or foreigners, if not both’.

This sentiment can more or less be found among large sections of the public and the intelligentsia on both sides of this conflict.
Advertisement

Many on the pro-Israel side of the fence cite Joan Peters’ ‘From a Time Immemorial’ as evidence that Palestinians aren’t even a real people, that apparently they only came into the land in the 19th and 20th centuries from surrounding areas like Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq due to Zionist migration from Europe creating new jobs and economic opportunities, therefore, they don’t really belong in Israel.

Similarly, many Palestinians cite Shlomo Sand’s ‘The Invention of the Jewish People’ to argue that Ashkenazi Jews aren’t even real Jews, that apparently they’re Slavic or Turkic Europeans who converted to Judaism during the Middle Ages, therefore, they don’t really belong in Palestine.

Both these books have been debunked by credible scholars.

It has been comprehensively demonstrated that Palestinians are descendants of the ethnic Jews who converted to Christianity during the Byzantine era.
Advertisement

People often seem to forget the fact that when the Romans kicked out the Jews, they only kicked out the Jewish Jews who were participating in the independence struggles, such as the Bar Kokhba Revolt.

The Christian Jews who had become followers of Jesus Christ had taken on a much more pacifistic approach towards their Roman colonizers because Jesus taught everyone to “Render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God what is God’s” as inscribed in Matthew 22:21.

Therefore, the Romans never actually kicked out every single ethnically Jewish person from the land.

These Christian Jews who got to remain on the land spoke Aramaic as a native tongue and continued to be ruled by the Romans who eventually embraced Christianity and became the Byzantine Christian empire.

This local ethnically Jewish Christianised population by the middle of the 3rd century began to split up between Aramaic speakers along the coast and Levantine Arabic speakers along the Jordan River and Greater Syria.

The Ghassanid Empire founded in 249 AD was Levantine Arabic by official language and Christian by religion that stretched across most of the Levant region.

This time-frame also produced a Roman Emperor called Philip the Arab who came from Syria. The Muslim Umayyad Empire conquered Jerusalem in 637 AD under the Caliph Omar Bin Khattab.

This resulted in a peace treaty with Sophronius the local Christian patriarch of Jerusalem who was already speaking Levantine Arabic before the introduction of Islam in the region.

One of the great myths is that the Arabic language and culture were only introduced into the land after Caliph Omar’s conquests.

But we can clearly see from the evidence of the Arab Christian Ghassanid Empire and Philip the Arab that the Arabic language and culture were around in the land and the broader Levant region 388 years before the conquest of Islam (Ghassanids est. 249 AD and Islamic conquest est. 637 AD).

The vast majority of the Palestinians trace their family histories back to these ethnic Jews who embraced Christianity and spoke both Aramaic and Arabic long before the arrival of Islam.

Many local Palestinians embraced Islam, some didn’t, and remained Christian.

Islam views Jews and Christians as Ahl al-Kitab (People of the Book, referring to the Old Testament) which came from the same God, and therefore gives them a special protected status.

[link to blogs.timesofisrael.com (secure)]
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Thanks for the education. It could very well be true. However, there is no doubt that the Israeli govt does not want anyone to reside in Israel other than those who identify as Jewish. They don't want Christians or Muslims.
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Christians need to know that the Palestinians contain the real Jews.
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No doubt about it, and thats why the invaders that are not native to that land want them dead.

There is no doubt about it that Palestinians are the closest living relatives of the true Israelite's.
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I am not against their people I am against their government which is their Elite who control us here watch this and get a clue
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I am not against their people I am against their government which is their Elite who control us here watch this and get a clue

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Be careful not to allow criticism of Israel or Zionism to be labeled as antisemitic.

NO Torah Observant Jew supports the existence of Israel because it is in contradiction to their religious tenets and their Gods commands to them.


All three Sand religions should be equally welcome and protected by the law in the Promised Land, especially American Christians since we fund it's existence.
Instead we get spit on and prosecuted for saying Jesus is lord.
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A true Christian does NOT support israel

They understand they are anti-christian
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We support Israel because Islam is much worse.
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Soo many propaganda posts about Israel trying to return us back to the Holocaust.

Not happening Muslims can get fucked.
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I am not against their people I am against their government which is their Elite who control us here watch this and get a clue

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Be careful not to allow criticism of Israel or Zionism to be labeled as antisemitic.

NO Torah Observant Jew supports the existence of Israel because it is in contradiction to their religious tenets and their Gods commands to them.


All three Sand religions should be equally welcome and protected by the law in the Promised Land, especially American Christians since we fund it's existence.
Instead we get spit on and prosecuted for saying Jesus is lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84801418


The date for Israels return as a nation foretold here:
[link to slideplayer.com (secure)]

More recently fulfilled prophecies by Israel:



Yes todays Israel is the Israel that God would make sure return at the end of the church age. This is where we are, thats why Israel is back.
Just†Me recomends:
Romans 10:13 - “whoever calls on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”
Some prophecies fullfilled by Jesus: [link to www.gotquestions.org (secure)]
The bible for download: [link to rcbi-resources.yolasite.com]
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Christians are the slaves of the "chosen ones".

They tricked people into believing their hocus pocus story to control them and make them submission so they never fight back and stand up against them.
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Hi Cliff, any summary notes?
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Hi Cliff, any summary notes?
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It go into n3w 4ge, gn0sticsm, where people like D4vid Icke gets his stuff from (demons) etc. It helps you see the be4st system and what its enemy is.

Last Edited by Just†Me on 11/19/2023 11:36 AM
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israel in the biblical days meant seekers of God - seekers of God's Will

the bible was interpreted in that part of the country, so they changed a lot of the interpretations to fit their selfish ways and ego's

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I am not against their people I am against their government which is their Elite who control us here watch this and get a clue

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86426719


Be careful not to allow criticism of Israel or Zionism to be labeled as antisemitic.

NO Torah Observant Jew supports the existence of Israel because it is in contradiction to their religious tenets and their Gods commands to them.


All three Sand religions should be equally welcome and protected by the law in the Promised Land, especially American Christians since we fund it's existence.
Instead we get spit on and prosecuted for saying Jesus is lord.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 84801418


The date for Israels return as a nation foretold here:
[link to slideplayer.com (secure)]

More recently fulfilled prophecies by Israel:



Yes todays Israel is the Israel that God would make sure return at the end of the church age. This is where we are, thats why Israel is back.
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Recent fulfilled Muh prophecy!!

All man made created fulfillment’s.

OP is a tard with a pagan murdering psychopath for his avi.
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israel in the biblical days meant seekers of God - seekers of God's Will

the bible was interpreted in that part of the country, so they changed a lot of the interpretations to fit their selfish ways and ego's

hf
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Correct. Any idiot with an IQ above potato can see they are forcing the prophecies. Netinyahoo just quoted Isaiah then said they are going to MAKE THEM HAPPEN.
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Because the Jews killed Jesus.. and JFK?
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Because the Jews killed Jesus.. and JFK?
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And Bobby and JFK Jr.
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Christians are the slaves of the "chosen ones".

They tricked people into believing their hocus pocus story to control them and make them submission so they never fight back and stand up against them.
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.

You are utterly ignorant & have no idea of what you are talking about.

You will stand at the end of your life & answer for these comments.

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Christians are the slaves of the "chosen ones".

They tricked people into believing their hocus pocus story to control them and make them submission so they never fight back and stand up against them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86489427


.

You are utterly ignorant & have no idea of what you are talking about.

You will stand at the end of your life & answer for these comments.

.
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Face it. You are a transjew.


And no, you aren’t going to Jewish heaven.
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Christians are the slaves of the "chosen ones".

They tricked people into believing their hocus pocus story to control them and make them submission so they never fight back and stand up against them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86489427


.

You are utterly ignorant & have no idea of what you are talking about.

You will stand at the end of your life & answer for these comments.
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And I'd be HONORED to stand beside that person and tell God (correct spelling) that I agree with what they said.
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A true Christian does NOT support israel

They understand they are anti-christian
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Jesus is a Jew and He loves the Jews abd Israel. If you hate what God loves, enjoy worms eating you inside out while your brain boils for eternity in hell.

Antichrist lovers hate Israel and God will destroy you and send you to hell for eternity and you all deserve it and far more.
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A true Christian does NOT support israel

They understand they are anti-christian
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They're not just anti Christian they are the spawn of Satan.

They are the ones behind the scenes creating all this hell on Earth





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