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Anonymous Coward User ID: 446552 Australia 06/05/2008 09:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Lord gave men and women over to their 'persisting' to do it their way, their tastes their feelings the pleasures of sin if you like... When sex is anything other than its natural fitting way, it is 'dishonouring' ones own body. This is the simple truth. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 445695 United States 06/05/2008 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP your 'theology' is from the pits of hell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446552The Lord gave men and women over to their 'persisting' to do it their way, their tastes their feelings the pleasures of sin if you like... When sex is anything other than its natural fitting way, it is 'dishonouring' ones own body. This is the simple truth. I am the Lord. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 446552 Australia 06/05/2008 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP your 'theology' is from the pits of hell. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 445695The Lord gave men and women over to their 'persisting' to do it their way, their tastes their feelings the pleasures of sin if you like... When sex is anything other than its natural fitting way, it is 'dishonouring' ones own body. This is the simple truth. I am the Lord. You are seeking to 'justify' That is delusion or vain imaginations As far as your I am the Lord statement that is in itself pride and hautiness sarcasm...but keep seeking, His heart will be revealed to those who seek Him with all of their heart, for within the heart is all wickedness that the Lord sees Psalm 139, last verse, for your reference |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 446539 United States 06/05/2008 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...No where in the bible does God or Jesus condemn love. Yes sex acts for the sake of sex acts are condemned. Sex within the confines of love are NEVER Mentioned - unless you want to read the Song of Solomon. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446552Interesting. 4 pages later and no one comments on what I said. It is clear to me that education is not something GLPers come here for. They just want to make stupid comments and comment on the stupid comments. Not actually discuss or learn. Take no offense. It was very well written. It's just that those who condemn can't refute it. And those who agree with you have nothing more to add. No one commented on my, "The Secret Gospel of Mark" topic weeks ago. A lot of people here are quite naieve, so when you confront them with facts, they don't know how to respond. The intelligent ones don't feel the need to. Cheers. Joe, Paul was speaking at the inspiration of Christ (Romans 1) God gave them OVER to their lusts (unnatural exchange of passions, unnatural being the key word) The Lord gave us all a NATURAL inner knowing of love, He created our genetalia to 'fit' perfectly, for pleasure, passionate intimate moments and for children to be conceieved. I have been once with a woman for quite a few years, it all seemed VERY natural and VERY loving initially, then as time went along, and I read Romans 1..the word 'natural' in a particular version, troubled me. Please know I LOVED that girl, or the love I felt was as natural as it is with a man I feel now (married). However, both of us were sexually abused, raped and our childhoods were both void of parental nuturing love. Mine more so than hers. When I met her, I experienced someone very 'kind to me' like no other had ever treated me. THAT (in hindsight) was the reason 'I thought' was my forever love. I never knew the authentic me, it had been violated from a very early age. I hungered to be loved and accepted, and never knew Christ's love until around my early 30's. At that time I'd just separated from my first marriage, it was to a person who was mentally, emotionally and physically abusive. Though what was HIS childhood like? Who was HIS hero? Who taught HIM about love or who was HIS role models? Certainly not his parents; his father beat the bejesus outta him, and his mother was bitter angry and fearful of her husband taking out her frustrations and anger on her son, my ex husband. I am not by the way making excuses for his behaviour, I am older, and I have insight now on mnany things I never once did. My point is, over time, I healed, over time I became acquainted with 'healing scriptures' and the Lord spoke to me (to my mind and heart) as a tender father would to a child. He gave me much understanding and TIME TO CHANGE, in other words, the Lord 're-parented my heart'..via a means of many different things. I still made many wrong choices, I still made mistakes, but HE was STILL watching over me and guiding me back to HIS Fatherly arms where HIS DIVINE LOVE 'healed' my broken heart. He sent to me many many angels, one way or the other, and a combination of a word here, a kind hand there, people loving me when I was very 'unlovely', their grace, their patience, their wisdom and their NOT giving into my tantrums or demands, over time, others that the Lord sent to me, became a tapestry of love that wrapped around me. I cannot speak for others who are still in homosexual lifestyles, and always have been, I have no clear answers or proof that it is wrong, but I do know this, personally I believe the Lord does not want people to be mocked at where matters of love are concerned, and He did make genetalia to fit 'naturally', and gloves fit hands, not feet, and children are conceived in love, not bought or sold via surrogacy for those in the 'same sex' relationships; every child needs to have a male and female as role models to be able to grow up without bias, with role models that teach them about being a son, lover, father, husband, daughter, wife, mother etc. They come from healthy loving male and female parents. A child raised in a 'same sex' love will grow up with many disadvantages, and mockery from early years of school when others find out, is INEVITABLE. That is one thing the child does not need, nor does it need to have feelings of 'divided loyalities' and its is CRUEL to have a child constantly having to defend their PARENTS choices of same sex. That is a terrible burden for a child to carry. I know only this, that Christ gave me the time, patience and ability to rediscover love, His pure love healed so much, it took time, but it is possible. If I were to look at two of the same sex in a passionate embrace in the public, especially if they be in their older ages, something inside of me would react to is as 'just not right'. But that's my story. I hope others here find their way to the path of true love, and it will be found when the author of love is in your heart, Jesus Christ. An excellent post from someone who has lived both sides of the story, and most important understands that "children are to be conceived in love, not bought or sold via surrogacy for those in 'same sex' relationships. . ." I got called all kinds of names on another forum, it is scary to me what the mindset of gay males who adopt surrogate-grown infants (the situation i was referring to) must be to go into such hyper-defensive mode . . . all i suggested was that it might be in the baby's best interest (they 'had' infant twin daughters and one of the men was the 'mommy') to have a strong maternal presence during the months of infancy . . . wow did i get slammed, there is something very wrong with that mindset . . . i truly doubt if they themselves would have wanted to be raised from infancy by a gay male couple . . .these types are using the kids as lifestyle accessories to be bought and sold . . . scary . . . |
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cdn-joe User ID: 446666 Canada 06/05/2008 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah..how can shoving your cock into the smelly bacteria laden SHIT infesting another mans ass hole be sinful? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 381270SHIT must be holy..thats why everyone says holy shit all the time. So..next time you are reaming a smelly peice of poo in some smelly mans ass hole..imagine HOW close to godliness you must be. If we all went out and fucked poo as a lifestyle choice..we could ALL be holy couldnt we??? Imagine it...all those worms crawling around the insides of some mans rectal cavity..feasting on the holy POO..and then shoving your cock INTO it and calling it natural. Sick fuck FAGS!!! Um, and hetero couples, even married ones, don't have anal sex? Never have, eh? Is their a list in the bible of acceptable sex practices between married couples? Really, I need to know. And I guess surogacy for married, hetero, infertile couples is out of the question too, eh? And, don't even mention adoption as thats just as bad. Let's kill all those unwanted babies. Morons!!! Do you realize how many children being raised in your stereotypical family are being abused and murdered every day? Ones with a mom and a dad. Go and hide behind your bibles. All children need love. It doesn't matter if it comes from a mom or a dad, one of each or two of the same. Love is needed, not condemnation. THAT IS GOD'S LAW !!! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 445695 United States 06/05/2008 11:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | my oh my, whaddamaigonnadue..... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446663I don't think you take this seriously, so I think you are going to keep being evil and get destroyed. For those who fight to live a good life, I would like to send this message to show you that you are not alone. Esau, go get some food for us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 442132 Netherlands 06/05/2008 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah..how can shoving your cock into the smelly bacteria laden SHIT infesting another mans ass hole be sinful? Quoting: cdn-joeSHIT must be holy..thats why everyone says holy shit all the time. So..next time you are reaming a smelly peice of poo in some smelly mans ass hole..imagine HOW close to godliness you must be. If we all went out and fucked poo as a lifestyle choice..we could ALL be holy couldnt we??? Imagine it...all those worms crawling around the insides of some mans rectal cavity..feasting on the holy POO..and then shoving your cock INTO it and calling it natural. Sick fuck FAGS!!! Um, and hetero couples, even married ones, don't have anal sex? Never have, eh? Is their a list in the bible of acceptable sex practices between married couples? Really, I need to know. There are two levels on which people can interact - animal and spiritual. Having anal sex is an animal interaction; animal interaction will always lead to evil and destruction. Spiritual interaction is based on spiritual Love for each other based on the fact that we are all immortal souls that don't have sex, and live temporarily inside human bodies. Your question is not spiritual, just don't think about it. Pursue a spiritual relationship with your lover and you will find great Love and lasting satisfaction; you will then know intuitively what is right and wrong to do. |
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Quoting: Hallow Ed according to who?sounds like you are just out to get a reaction , you wind up merchant . Wraithwynd User ID: 360108 6/5/2008 3:39 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote The abomination of homosexuality (the sex act) is not homosexuals (born that way, who enter into loving relationships with sex on top) but of heterosexuals who use homosexual sex for power over others, for making money (prostitution) and as a form of temple worship (Old Pagan Sex Rites to False Gods). Romans speaks of 'homosexuality' however if you really read and study you find out that God is punishing 'straight' people to lust after one another - Lust is not Love. Once you figure that one out and if your straight you can clearly see how horrible that punishment is. We in today's world do not use sex as power over one another. Well we do, but not socially, not as 'honorable' warfare. Back in ancient times male on male sex was used as a form of domination over ones enemies. Penetration of a man by a man is an act of conquering - it is the ultimate act of dominating the loser. Thus the Greeks and the Romans would use homosexual anal sex as a means to inflict domination on straight (not gay or homosexual) men. It was also used by masters over their slaves. Straight men not gay men, used and abused sex in such a horrible manner. This is a high act of humiliation, no love can be found there. That is why God did not like 'homosexual sex' as an 'unnatural' act. God never ever mentions or condemns homosexual sex within the confines of a loving relationship. Just like God never ever says anything about sex with in the confines of a loving heterosexual relationship. If you read the bible you find that condemns sex (all sex) outside of a committed, loving relationship. Temple prostitution male and female was practiced by the pagan nations around Israel. Sex was used as rite in religious 'worship'. It was sex for the sake of sex, practiced by so called 'straight' people as a form of worship of their false gods. When Paul wrote his 'admonishment' to the homosexual he created a new Greek word attempting to describe the kind of sex he was speaking of. The Greeks at that time had words for loving, homosexual relationships, had words for men and boy sex. Paul elected not to use those words - obviously this means that the issue is not loving relationships but some other form of sex practice which the Greeks did not have a word for. Two words were used by Paul: Arsenokoités and Malakos Both of these words are Greek sounding, and may be composed of Greek words - but they ARE NOT really Greek. No Greek words were used - what were used were words that Paul cobbled together attempting to describe something which frankly no one knows what he really meant. Papers have been written on these two words. Most agree that translators made homosexuality or acts of homosexuality the meaning - however those were based on biases of the times, not on any real scholastic study of the words. [link to www.clgs.org] Yes homosexual sex is unnatural if you are straight - And that is what was condemned. There are several stories that can demonstrate that gay love (same sex love) is ok not only with God but with Jesus as well. If you read David and Johnathan and actually take as it you quickly conclude that the reason why the father was so upset is because his kid was in a homosexual relationship. [link to www.biblesexstories.com] [link to www.gaychristian101.com] If you read Naomi and Ruth with an open mind you come to the conclusion that these were lesbians. [link to www.biblesexstories.com] If you knew anything about Rome in the days of Jesus you would understand the true significance of the centurion and his male slave - LOVER and immediately conclude if Jesus has an issue with gay love, that he would have at the very least admonished the centurion for keeping a male slave (lover): [link to www.gaychristian101.com] No where in the bible does God or Jesus condemn love. Yes sex acts for the sake of sex acts are condemned. Sex within the confines of love are NEVER Mentioned - unless you want to read the Song of Solomon. Quoting: Wraithwynd Interesting. 4 pages later and no one comments on what I said. It is clear to me that education is not something GLPers come here for. They just want to make stupid comments and comment on the stupid comments. Not actually discuss or learn. Anonymous Coward User ID: 446438 6/5/2008 3:46 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote God disagrees. Anonymous Coward User ID: 284011 6/5/2008 3:47 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Not only is it a sin, it is an abomination...that which is against what is natural! that's the word. abomination. it's one thing to experiment and try things out (and begging for forgiveness), but living a homosexual lifestyle is most definately an unforgivable sin. this doesn't mean that i'm judging people, it's just the interpretation of the bible. i'm not the judge. sorry folks. Quoting: Digital Rapture EVERY sin is forgivable. cdn-joe User ID: 186050 6/5/2008 3:58 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote ...No where in the bible does God or Jesus condemn love. Yes sex acts for the sake of sex acts are condemned. Sex within the confines of love are NEVER Mentioned - unless you want to read the Song of Solomon. Interesting. 4 pages later and no one comments on what I said. It is clear to me that education is not something GLPers come here for. They just want to make stupid comments and comment on the stupid comments. Not actually discuss or learn. Quoting: Wraithwynd Take no offense. It was very well written. It's just that those who condemn can't refute it. And those who agree with you have nothing more to add. No one commented on my, "The Secret Gospel of Mark" topic weeks ago. A lot of people here are quite naieve, so when you confront them with facts, they don't know how to respond. The intelligent ones don't feel the need to. Cheers. Sinanju User ID: 446308 6/5/2008 4:10 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote It's true what the OP says..... 75 per cent are born with the condition and the other 25 per cent were just sucked into it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18328 >>Ok.. THAT is some funny shit right there! Anonymous Coward User ID: 446388 6/5/2008 4:22 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote You need a spanking, Child. excuse me? are you gay? like I said, i'm not the judge and nothing I said was wrong. so maybe i should say something wrong... maybe it's you that wants the spanking Quoting: Digital Rapture it's stevie. he comes here to show his ass and get it spanked. he thinks he's God. Anonymous Coward User ID: 284011 6/5/2008 4:29 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote ...No where in the bible does God or Jesus condemn love. Yes sex acts for the sake of sex acts are condemned. Sex within the confines of love are NEVER Mentioned - unless you want to read the Song of Solomon. Interesting. 4 pages later and no one comments on what I said. It is clear to me that education is not something GLPers come here for. They just want to make stupid comments and comment on the stupid comments. Not actually discuss or learn. Take no offense. It was very well written. It's just that those who condemn can't refute it. And those who agree with you have nothing more to add. No one commented on my, "The Secret Gospel of Mark" topic weeks ago. A lot of people here are quite naieve, so when you confront them with facts, they don't know how to respond. The intelligent ones don't feel the need to. Cheers. Quoting: cdn-joe Yep. Good stuff guys. People that believe homosexuality is condemned in the bible have not taken the time to research it because it doesn't affect them. They just believe what homophobic preachers have taught them. Anonymous Coward User ID: 446473 6/5/2008 4:45 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote It just a boy imagining falling in love with his Dad. Not only is it a sin, it is an abomination...that which is against what is natural! All I can say by your sentence above, is that maybe you had/have a very abnormal attachment to your biological father? I've often wondered why homosexuals are so opposed to the term "queer", when it's definition is so fitting. "That which is beyond or deviating from what is natural." But instead, they want us to call them "gay", which by definition means "bright, pleasant, cheery, happy", which often is the exact opposite of what their lifestyle entails. And yes, I know many homosexuals, who live promiscuous lifestyles, having a new mate every 2-3 months, sleeping with strangers on a whim, making heterosexuals (men and women) extremely uncomfortable and even offended by their sexual advances. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 415044 cdn-joe User ID: 186050 6/5/2008 4:48 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Interesting. 4 pages later and no one comments on what I said. It is clear to me that education is not something GLPers come here for. They just want to make stupid comments and comment on the stupid comments. Not actually discuss or learn. Quoting: Wraithwynd And, on this point, you're kinda right. This used to be a great place intelligent discussion. But lately it seems that the secret got out and now every lonely, hormonal teenager and/or disgruntled house wife with an axe to grind wants our opinion on the division of household chores or the latest oral sex techniques. It is really quite sad, but I'm hanging around hoping that things will improve. Anonymous Coward User ID: 446438 6/5/2008 4:51 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Not only is it a sin, it is an abomination... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446473 It is also a health hazard. Homosexuals have the shortest lifespan of any group. Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 4:53 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Hallow Ed loves the gay sinner more than the straight bigot. Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 5:32 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote I guess THAT shut em up. They're like the older brother in the prodigal son story. they're so fucking jealous of my love for the younger which surpasses my love for them. hahahaha Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 5:47 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote you'll have to take secondary interest, duuuuude. Anonymous Coward User ID: 426901 6/5/2008 5:50 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote there is nothing wrong with two men expressing their love into each other's anus. it's just love and an anus. what they do with each other's anus in their own privacy is not our business. Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 6:13 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote there is nothing wrong with two men expressing their love into each other's anus. it's just love and an anus. what they do with each other's anus in their own privacy is not our business. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 426901 acquiring brownie points....ok pal. :) Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 6:16 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote now THAT'S funny! Anonymous Coward User ID: 446539 6/5/2008 6:26 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote The particular body part in question is designed as a ONE-WAY sphincter, that is OBVIOUS to anyone who isn't DEAD. . . gay behavior is necrophiliac, who in their right minds has so little consideration for their own SPERMS that they mix them with SHIT ? But their is no point reasoning with the anally insane, their endless circular logic will drive straight thinking sorts over the brink. What do I tell my kids ? That anal behaviors are the crack cocaine of sex and should be avoided at all costs unless you want to be a sphincter whore for the rest of your life . . . Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 6:29 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote The particular body part in question is designed as a ONE-WAY sphincter, that is OBVIOUS to anyone who isn't DEAD. . . gay behavior is necrophiliac, who in their right minds has so little consideration for their own SPERMS that they mix them with SHIT ? But their is no point reasoning with the anally insane, their endless circular logic will drive straight thinking sorts over the brink. What do I tell my kids ? That anal behaviors are the crack cocaine of sex and should be avoided at all costs unless you want to be a sphincter whore for the rest of your life . . . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 446539 you might as well be a textbook. see how much I love a book, compared to my son. Lotus Feet Alchemist of Synthesis. The Paraclete User ID: 433953 6/5/2008 6:32 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Interesting. 4 pages later and no one comments on what I said. It is clear to me that education is not something GLPers come here for. They just want to make stupid comments and comment on the stupid comments. Not actually discuss or learn. Quoting: Wraithwynd Very observant of you. That is true there are very few that get into an indepth look at a serious subject matter. However, your post was excellent. For other posters.... I would just like to add that Jesus is very clear in the bible he tells you that some are born like it and some are made like it by men, and that you MUST ACCEPT them. Unconditional love was his way and to love unconditionally one must accept. Lotus Blessed are the peacemakers for they shall be called Sons of God. God's will is compelled by love into compassionate action to save. Blessed are the pure of heart for they shall see God. Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 6:33 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Interesting. 4 pages later and no one comments on what I said. It is clear to me that education is not something GLPers come here for. They just want to make stupid comments and comment on the stupid comments. Not actually discuss or learn. Very observant of you. That is true there are very few that get into an indepth look at a serious subject matter. However, your post was excellent. For other posters.... I would just like to add that Jesus is very clear in the bible he tells you that some are born like it and some are made like it by men, and that you MUST ACCEPT them. Unconditional love was his way and to love unconditionally one must accept. Lotus Quoting: Lotus Feet I don't love you as much as your younger brother. My bigoted religious-to-please-daddy, dear. Turtles Know User ID: 406673 6/5/2008 6:38 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote What if I were to tell You that there will come a day when we all shall be making love in the public, without shame, without clothes. Would You believe me? Quoting: Hallow Ed Of that I have no doubt, we are being de-evolved, soon many of us will be monkeys once again. Some may choose to celebrate that, but I don't. Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 6:50 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote if you choose you loose. Anonymous Coward User ID: 446552 6/5/2008 6:53 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Not only is it a sin, it is an abomination...that which is against what is natural! that's the word. abomination. it's one thing to experiment and try things out (and begging for forgiveness), but living a homosexual lifestyle is most definately an unforgivable sin. this doesn't mean that i'm judging people, it's just the interpretation of the bible. i'm not the judge. sorry folks. Quoting: Digital Rapture Unforgiveable sin? ALL SINS ARE FORGIVEABLE. To whoever wrote the above, YOU are a SINNER, thats what Jesus came to earth for, the lost, those who are lost in sin. Yet His grace affords forgiveness for ALL SINS. I do not condone or promote two of the same kind to practice a 'homosexual' relationship, however, I DO KNOW about being in one, once. For me, I was 'love-starved' from a very early age, rape and incest certainly never helped, but today, I am and always have been hetrosexual, and why is this? Because after I read Romans 1, about a woman exchanging passions being UNNATURAL, for me, it changed everything instantly. Did I stop living with that person? No. It took another some three or so years to finally leave. I wanted my then 'girlfriend' and I to be 'normal girlfriends' and not as things were. Jesus gave me time and knew my potential to find the healthy way of love, and it only came about because HE was patient with me and HE knew I would find 'normality' again when it came to love as I read about HIS scriptures that gently, patiently and lovingly led me to his heart, and THAT'S what changed me, HIM, not an A/C that comes on here and says 'its an unforiveable sin to be in the practice of homosexuality'. What a stupid unwise arrogant statement. Whoever you are AC, I suggest you go back to read Galatians 5.21-22. If we are going to serve Christ, then we need to be SERVANTS not people with a whip in our words that condemn others, WE are NOT the Holy Spirit, we have the Holy Spirit within us, and HE is a 'GENTLE'MAN'...its words that heal and soothe that give others comfort and courage. AC, just you make sure YOUR walking in the heart of Christ as you 'speak' to others. When the Lord sees EVERY SINNER, regardless of their sin, remember this 'When God looks at others HIS SON gets in HIS eyes'. So AC look at others with the Son in your eyes. Rebuke over. Anonymous Coward User ID: 341677 6/5/2008 6:54 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Anonymous Coward User ID: 381270 6/5/2008 7:02 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Yeah..how can shoving your cock into the smelly bacteria laden SHIT infesting another mans ass hole be sinful? SHIT must be holy..thats why everyone says holy shit all the time. So..next time you are reaming a smelly peice of poo in some smelly mans ass hole..imagine HOW close to godliness you must be. If we all went out and fucked poo as a lifestyle choice..we could ALL be holy couldnt we??? Imagine it...all those worms crawling around the insides of some mans rectal cavity..feasting on the holy POO..and then shoving your cock INTO it and calling it natural. Sick fuck FAGS!!! Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 7:07 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Yeah..how can shoving your cock into the smelly bacteria laden SHIT infesting another mans ass hole be sinful? SHIT must be holy..thats why everyone says holy shit all the time. So..next time you are reaming a smelly peice of poo in some smelly mans ass hole..imagine HOW close to godliness you must be. If we all went out and fucked poo as a lifestyle choice..we could ALL be holy couldnt we??? Imagine it...all those worms crawling around the insides of some mans rectal cavity..feasting on the holy POO..and then shoving your cock INTO it and calling it natural. Sick fuck FAGS!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 381270 It like this. The Cubs play in Uptown, a predominately gay neighborhood. Their crosstown rival is the White Sox. Cubs fans hate Sox fans. But Cubs fans don't realize they have to wash their white socks to stay clean. Anonymous Coward User ID: 446552 6/5/2008 7:22 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote ...No where in the bible does God or Jesus condemn love. Yes sex acts for the sake of sex acts are condemned. Sex within the confines of love are NEVER Mentioned - unless you want to read the Song of Solomon. Interesting. 4 pages later and no one comments on what I said. It is clear to me that education is not something GLPers come here for. They just want to make stupid comments and comment on the stupid comments. Not actually discuss or learn. Take no offense. It was very well written. It's just that those who condemn can't refute it. And those who agree with you have nothing more to add. No one commented on my, "The Secret Gospel of Mark" topic weeks ago. A lot of people here are quite naieve, so when you confront them with facts, they don't know how to respond. The intelligent ones don't feel the need to. Cheers. Quoting: cdn-joe Joe, Paul was speaking at the inspiration of Christ (Romans 1) God gave them OVER to their lusts (unnatural exchange of passions, unnatural being the key word) The Lord gave us all a NATURAL inner knowing of love, He created our genetalia to 'fit' perfectly, for pleasure, passionate intimate moments and for children to be conceieved. I have been once with a woman for quite a few years, it all seemed VERY natural and VERY loving initially, then as time went along, and I read Romans 1..the word 'natural' in a particular version, troubled me. Please know I LOVED that girl, or the love I felt was as natural as it is with a man I feel now (married). However, both of us were sexually abused, raped and our childhoods were both void of parental nuturing love. Mine more so than hers. When I met her, I experienced someone very 'kind to me' like no other had ever treated me. THAT (in hindsight) was the reason 'I thought' was my forever love. I never knew the authentic me, it had been violated from a very early age. I hungered to be loved and accepted, and never knew Christ's love until around my early 30's. At that time I'd just separated from my first marriage, it was to a person who was mentally, emotionally and physically abusive. Though what was HIS childhood like? Who was HIS hero? Who taught HIM about love or who was HIS role models? Certainly not his parents; his father beat the bejesus outta him, and his mother was bitter angry and fearful of her husband taking out her frustrations and anger on her son, my ex husband. I am not by the way making excuses for his behaviour, I am older, and I have insight now on mnany things I never once did. My point is, over time, I healed, over time I became acquainted with 'healing scriptures' and the Lord spoke to me (to my mind and heart) as a tender father would to a child. He gave me much understanding and TIME TO CHANGE, in other words, the Lord 're-parented my heart'..via a means of many different things. I still made many wrong choices, I still made mistakes, but HE was STILL watching over me and guiding me back to HIS Fatherly arms where HIS DIVINE LOVE 'healed' my broken heart. He sent to me many many angels, one way or the other, and a combination of a word here, a kind hand there, people loving me when I was very 'unlovely', their grace, their patience, their wisdom and their NOT giving into my tantrums or demands, over time, others that the Lord sent to me, became a tapestry of love that wrapped around me. I cannot speak for others who are still in homosexual lifestyles, and always have been, I have no clear answers or proof that it is wrong, but I do know this, personally I believe the Lord does not want people to be mocked at where matters of love are concerned, and He did make genetalia to fit 'naturally', and gloves fit hands, not feet, and children are conceived in love, not bought or sold via surrogacy for those in the 'same sex' relationships; every child needs to have a male and female as role models to be able to grow up without bias, with role models that teach them about being a son, lover, father, husband, daughter, wife, mother etc. They come from healthy loving male and female parents. A child raised in a 'same sex' love will grow up with many disadvantages, and mockery from early years of school when others find out, is INEVITABLE. That is one thing the child does not need, nor does it need to have feelings of 'divided loyalities' and its is CRUEL to have a child constantly having to defend their PARENTS choices of same sex. That is a terrible burden for a child to carry. I know only this, that Christ gave me the time, patience and ability to rediscover love, His pure love healed so much, it took time, but it is possible. If I were to look at two of the same sex in a passionate embrace in the public, especially if they be in their older ages, something inside of me would react to is as 'just not right'. But that's my story. I hope others here find their way to the path of true love, and it will be found when the author of love is in your heart, Jesus Christ. Anonymous Coward User ID: 445695 (OP) 6/5/2008 7:29 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote Well, the Sox beat the Cubs in the 1906 World Series. But that just means my cubbies are loveable losers(I love them more than the Sox) Anonymous Coward User ID: 446552 6/5/2008 7:36 PM Re: Homosexuality is not a sin. Quote To all the christians reading here, please remember this, if we are not walking with the SON in our eyes, we will miss the opportunities to love as He loved. We can all spruke our arrogance of 'knowing' the scriptures, but we MUST love as HE loved. That includes being rejected, mocked at and disbelieved by those who are wounded so very much that all they might need is a smile, NOT condemnation and NOT the meat of scriptures when they aren't even able to digest milk yet. For those of us who consider we are 'mature' in Christ, or that we have 'arrived' as perfect 'christians', our puffed up prideful hearts will miss the heart of Christ. Humility and patience are keys we need. The Lord directs us to love as He loved, ONE PERSON AT A TIME. If we leave the servant hearted seed of Christ with another then we KNOW the Holy Spirit will water such seeds, seeds that we may not see immediate growth to, or we may never see that person again, BUT the Lord will be true to His word, HE will use that moment of service to Him and lead that person to others that walk in the same heart Christ did. If 'we think we need to slap another up the head because they are not meeing OUR expectations of them' that is arrogance and pride. We are HIS servants, and He leads, not us. Its about Him, not me. |
lurker User ID: 446843 United States 06/06/2008 07:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I believe this Biblical passage is in Timothy: "My people are destroyed by lack of knowledge." My point is: The downfall of this country is that not only are Americans ignorant, but also they are arrogant. I wish those who condemn others would take some time to read, study and think. |
cdn-joe User ID: 186050 Canada 06/06/2008 10:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are two levels on which people can interact - animal and spiritual. Having anal sex is an animal interaction; animal interaction will always lead to evil and destruction. Spiritual interaction is based on spiritual Love for each other based on the fact that we are all immortal souls that don't have sex, and live temporarily inside human bodies. Your question is not spiritual, just don't think about it. Pursue a spiritual relationship with your lover and you will find great Love and lasting satisfaction; you will then know intuitively what is right and wrong to do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 442132So spiritual love, which does not include sex, is the level we all must aspire to? Wow. great. Then we'll all die off in one generation with no reproduction. What a great idea. Someone should have suggested that ages ago. I see Green Peace latching on to this idea. "Save the planet-stop human reproduction." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 446539 United States 06/06/2008 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The particular body part in question is designed as a ONE-WAY sphincter, that is OBVIOUS to anyone who isn't DEAD. . . gay behavior is necrophiliac, who in their right minds has so little consideration for their own SPERMS that they mix them with SHIT ? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 445695But their is no point reasoning with the anally insane, their endless circular logic will drive straight thinking sorts over the brink. What do I tell my kids ? That anal behaviors are the crack cocaine of sex and should be avoided at all costs unless you want to be a sphincter whore for the rest of your life . . . you might as well be a textbook. see how much I love a book, compared to my son. I am scared for your son . . . |