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The Holy Spirit is a Higher being than both God and the Son of Man

 
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I just figured this out. Please think about it!

Yeah I know the story about God in three persons. But in actuality, this is not the case.

The Spirit is the ultimate reference point even for God. It is the ultimate reality behind God's moral superiority and infinite intelligence. The spirit isn't owned by anyone or anything, it is totally self-sufficient whereas God-the-creator requires creation and manifestation in order to realize himself as the creator. While both God and the Son of Man have direct access into the Spirit, they are still guided by the nature of the Spirit. So to give you an analogy, the Son of Man is akin to a comptuer's screen, keyboard, mouse etc. God is the CPU and the Spirit is akin to electricity which runs all of it.

This is the truth! Check it out, even in the Bible, blasphemy against the Spirit isn't forgivable whereas blasphemy against God or Jesus is forgivable. Why this is so? Because the Spirit is at the core of anything. Just imagine, if you turned against yourself, what could possibly save you? That's right. Not a goddamn thing.

You can contemplate on it. Thanks!
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Ruach is feminine in Heeeeeee boo.
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"Jesus" came in the energy of the feminine of the HS.
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Oh my it seems the mystery eludes op.

They are all equal my friend:

The Holy Trinity.—The triune character of the Creator is self-evident; that is, three separate Persons in One. These are, first, the Power which conceives; second, the Power which gives or signifies assent, as the Word or Command; third, the Power which carries out or performs the thought signified or expressed. Each equal, the one with the other; for the Power which conceives would not be a Power if each conception was accomplished without assent. The Word would be no Power without the thought and action. The Power which acts would be no Power without the thought and command; therefore it follows that these three are equal, the one with the other, and combine into the one Infinite Majesty, perfect and supreme in all his attributes, and above all other powers; yet each is separate and distinct, the one from the other. They possess the attribute of manifesting themselves separately and distinctly as Persons, and it follows that the Power which creates matter can invest itself in it, endow it with life and become visible clothed with it. It also follows that no inharmonious relation can exist between the three; that they all work together; and that without the three was nothing made that was made.

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An old pastor I knew used to tell me the exact same thing many years many ago. He thought God's very sentience was the Holy Spirit and his the creative intelligence was something distinct from it. Made sense to me.
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I just figured this out. Please think about it!

Yeah I know the story about God in three persons. But in actuality, this is not the case.

The Spirit is the ultimate reference point even for God. It is the ultimate reality behind God's moral superiority and infinite intelligence. The spirit isn't owned by anyone or anything, it is totally self-sufficient whereas God-the-creator requires creation and manifestation in order to realize himself as the creator. While both God and the Son of Man have direct access into the Spirit, they are still guided by the nature of the Spirit. So to give you an analogy, the Son of Man is akin to a comptuer's screen, keyboard, mouse etc. God is the CPU and the Spirit is akin to electricity which runs all of it.

This is the truth! Check it out, even in the Bible, blasphemy against the Spirit isn't forgivable whereas blasphemy against God or Jesus is forgivable. Why this is so? Because the Spirit is at the core of anything. Just imagine, if you turned against yourself, what could possibly save you? That's right. Not a goddamn thing.

You can contemplate on it. Thanks!
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Everything emanates from the spirit, father, son even devil himself.

There are volumes of information on the spirit within Hinduismm. They are calling this one Shiva, the one that comes at the end of every great age.
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I just figured this out. Please think about it!

Yeah I know the story about God in three persons. But in actuality, this is not the case.

The Spirit is the ultimate reference point even for God. It is the ultimate reality behind God's moral superiority and infinite intelligence. The spirit isn't owned by anyone or anything, it is totally self-sufficient whereas God-the-creator requires creation and manifestation in order to realize himself as the creator. While both God and the Son of Man have direct access into the Spirit, they are still guided by the nature of the Spirit. So to give you an analogy, the Son of Man is akin to a comptuer's screen, keyboard, mouse etc. God is the CPU and the Spirit is akin to electricity which runs all of it.

This is the truth! Check it out, even in the Bible, blasphemy against the Spirit isn't forgivable whereas blasphemy against God or Jesus is forgivable. Why this is so? Because the Spirit is at the core of anything. Just imagine, if you turned against yourself, what could possibly save you? That's right. Not a goddamn thing.

You can contemplate on it. Thanks!
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You nailed it in one go.
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Interesting perspective. I definitely agree that the Spirit feels like feminine energy. Gentle, nurturing. Guiding, not a harsh taskmaster. Jesus told us that God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship "in spirit and truth." To me that has always felt like an intimate and special communication and relationship "from within" and not with lip service. We must be born again "of water and the Spirit". Jesus told the disciples that it was better for them that He go away, because if He doesn't, the Spirit will not come. But if He goes away, the Father will send the Holy Spirit "in my name". I know for me, and for those I've met who are born again, it isn't just about "believing in Jesus." It is our inner-man being resurrected from the dead, and brought into newness of life where we can commune and have an intimate relationship with God by the Spirit. Words simply can't describe what this experience is like. It's something you have to experience for yourself. Christians that are full of hate don't know Him. Please don't cheat yourself out of unspeakable joy because of the actions of some. He is "the comforter." He told us "when you seek me with all your heart, you will find me". When you are reborn, you will be able to recognize your spiritual siblings, by the very same spirit. He is closer than a brother. The best friend you could ever ask for. He told us the Spirit would guide us into all truth and teach us. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
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Interesting perspective. I definitely agree that the Spirit feels like feminine energy. Gentle, nurturing. Guiding, not a harsh taskmaster. Jesus told us that God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship "in spirit and truth." To me that has always felt like an intimate and special communication and relationship "from within" and not with lip service. We must be born again "of water and the Spirit". Jesus told the disciples that it was better for them that He go away, because if He doesn't, the Spirit will not come. But if He goes away, the Father will send the Holy Spirit "in my name". I know for me, and for those I've met who are born again, it isn't just about "believing in Jesus." It is our inner-man being resurrected from the dead, and brought into newness of life where we can commune and have an intimate relationship with God by the Spirit. Words simply can't describe what this experience is like. It's something you have to experience for yourself. Christians that are full of hate don't know Him. Please don't cheat yourself out of unspeakable joy because of the actions of some. He is "the comforter." He told us "when you seek me with all your heart, you will find me". When you are reborn, you will be able to recognize your spiritual siblings, by the very same spirit. He is closer than a brother. The best friend you could ever ask for. He told us the Spirit would guide us into all truth and teach us. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
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That is beautifully stated. thank you. May I lift and use your post elsewhere? I'll give you credit.
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Interesting perspective. I definitely agree that the Spirit feels like feminine energy. Gentle, nurturing. Guiding, not a harsh taskmaster. Jesus told us that God is spirit and those who worship Him must worship "in spirit and truth." To me that has always felt like an intimate and special communication and relationship "from within" and not with lip service. We must be born again "of water and the Spirit". Jesus told the disciples that it was better for them that He go away, because if He doesn't, the Spirit will not come. But if He goes away, the Father will send the Holy Spirit "in my name". I know for me, and for those I've met who are born again, it isn't just about "believing in Jesus." It is our inner-man being resurrected from the dead, and brought into newness of life where we can commune and have an intimate relationship with God by the Spirit. Words simply can't describe what this experience is like. It's something you have to experience for yourself. Christians that are full of hate don't know Him. Please don't cheat yourself out of unspeakable joy because of the actions of some. He is "the comforter." He told us "when you seek me with all your heart, you will find me". When you are reborn, you will be able to recognize your spiritual siblings, by the very same spirit. He is closer than a brother. The best friend you could ever ask for. He told us the Spirit would guide us into all truth and teach us. Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.
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That is beautifully stated. thank you. May I lift and use your post elsewhere? I'll give you credit.
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No need to identify me. Feel free.
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You've made some good points OP. Btw there is an intellectual tradition in Christianity known as Pneumatology which solely focuses on the nature of the Holy Spirit, it could be of some interest to you.
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I just figured this out. Please think about it!

Yeah I know the story about God in three persons. But in actuality, this is not the case.

The Spirit is the ultimate reference point even for God. It is the ultimate reality behind God's moral superiority and infinite intelligence. The spirit isn't owned by anyone or anything, it is totally self-sufficient whereas God-the-creator requires creation and manifestation in order to realize himself as the creator. While both God and the Son of Man have direct access into the Spirit, they are still guided by the nature of the Spirit. So to give you an analogy, the Son of Man is akin to a comptuer's screen, keyboard, mouse etc. God is the CPU and the Spirit is akin to electricity which runs all of it.

This is the truth! Check it out, even in the Bible, blasphemy against the Spirit isn't forgivable whereas blasphemy against God or Jesus is forgivable. Why this is so? Because the Spirit is at the core of anything. Just imagine, if you turned against yourself, what could possibly save you? That's right. Not a goddamn thing.

You can contemplate on it. Thanks!
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If you only knew just how close to the truth you are. Gods etc are human manifestations personifying the Creator. The spirit is the Creator.

Now contemplate what the spirit actually is
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when I was a relOtard, I believe that it was Father/Mother/Jesus ....

later because I did some deep research, I discovered that it was actually Sophia who "created" Lucifer, and used some of god's dna which was forbidden, so she hid her work on another planet (perhaps in our solarsystem ?)
Her "punishment" was that her name would never be mentioned in Heaven again (is that when she became the "holy ghost"?) - but eventually god accepted Lucifer - recognized himself in him (Like-minded), and elevated him to the highest position in the Angelic realm of servants ... Then he gave him permission to go to another planet to develop "demons" who basically became the Army that conquered the other Solar Systems of Humans using Technology - and then turned on god because he didn't want them on his planet when the wars were over - which pissed off Lucifer because he made them in his image ...

so god blew up their planet ... but Lucifer and many others escaped and were a threat - so god allowed them on Heaven ... but they were discriminated against ... so god genetically modified himself to look like them - and the citizens of Heaven followed suit to secure peace - which explains why the Anunnaki look like Reptiles now


now isn't that interesting ... Lucifer was re-instated and give authority to punish (or reward) Humans via Angels and Demons on Earth after god discovered he couldn't blow it up- - but he only had authority over members of god's "Kingdom on Earth" - who joined of their own free will ...

later via the Heirarchy of Religon, the members were given their own "holy spirit" to guide/ handle them and report any non compliance to god' Commandments ... Their Agenda is Murder for Gain and Hatred for no reason, and have been able to enslave 80% of the Earth's adult population in one form or another of god-worship ... like he said, there is only one god, that apparently has many names
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One of the best explanations of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit I've heard is explained as rejecting both Jesus Christ as God and Savior and the Holy Spirit. Only God the Father draws people to Jesus and He does this by way of the Holy Spirit. If you outwardly reject Jesus, the Holy Spirit can still talk to your heart and hopefully turn you to Christ while you're still living and have a chance to be saved.

If you become unresponsive or nonreceptive to the Holy Spirit which can happen over time through grievous sinning and ignore or reject the call of the Holy Spirit to convict a person often by way of their conscience, who else is going to talk them into salvation? They've become reprobate at that point, irredeemable. No scarier place in existence and hell is their eternal destination at that point.

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Oh my it seems the mystery eludes op.

They are all equal my friend:

The Holy Trinity.—The triune character of the Creator is self-evident; that is, three separate Persons in One. These are, first, the Power which conceives; second, the Power which gives or signifies assent, as the Word or Command; third, the Power which carries out or performs the thought signified or expressed. Each equal, the one with the other; for the Power which conceives would not be a Power if each conception was accomplished without assent. The Word would be no Power without the thought and action. The Power which acts would be no Power without the thought and command; therefore it follows that these three are equal, the one with the other, and combine into the one Infinite Majesty, perfect and supreme in all his attributes, and above all other powers; yet each is separate and distinct, the one from the other. They possess the attribute of manifesting themselves separately and distinctly as Persons, and it follows that the Power which creates matter can invest itself in it, endow it with life and become visible clothed with it. It also follows that no inharmonious relation can exist between the three; that they all work together; and that without the three was nothing made that was made.

fish
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So glad this doesn't sound like the 10,000 sermons I've heard parroted over my lifetime.
Might as well memorize golf stats.
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Jesus said: "If you love Me, keep My commandments. And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever— the Helper is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him; but you know Him because He remains with you and will be in you." John 14:15-17.

The Holy Spirit is an integral part of the Almighty God. In the scripture I quote, Jesus asks our Father to send the Holy Spirit to indwell within believers. Note that it was the Father who sent the Holy Spirit at Jesus' request. This confirms that the Holy Spirit is not greater than God the Father or God the Son.

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I have heard this before. I don't remember where but I did.
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I just figured this out. Please think about it!

Yeah I know the story about God in three persons. But in actuality, this is not the case.

The Spirit is the ultimate reference point even for God. It is the ultimate reality behind God's moral superiority and infinite intelligence. The spirit isn't owned by anyone or anything, it is totally self-sufficient whereas God-the-creator requires creation and manifestation in order to realize himself as the creator. While both God and the Son of Man have direct access into the Spirit, they are still guided by the nature of the Spirit. So to give you an analogy, the Son of Man is akin to a comptuer's screen, keyboard, mouse etc. God is the CPU and the Spirit is akin to electricity which runs all of it.

This is the truth! Check it out, even in the Bible, blasphemy against the Spirit isn't forgivable whereas blasphemy against God or Jesus is forgivable. Why this is so? Because the Spirit is at the core of anything. Just imagine, if you turned against yourself, what could possibly save you? That's right. Not a goddamn thing.

You can contemplate on it. Thanks!
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They holy spirit is present in all life..life is in the holy spirit
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Holy Spirit is the Mother, God's wife.

God simply knows that when his wife is happy, he's happy, and when his wife is mad, he's unhappy.
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Holy Spirit is the Mother, God's wife.

God simply knows that when his wife is happy, he's happy, and when his wife is mad, he's unhappy.
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I like this one ^^
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Holy Spirit is the Mother, God's wife.

God simply knows that when his wife is happy, he's happy, and when his wife is mad, he's unhappy.
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Don't be silly.

Gender is a self-perception powered by chromosomal and hormonal qualities together with cultural influence. The ultimate presence can have nothing to do with these things, logically so.
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Holy Spirit is the Mother, God's wife.

God simply knows that when his wife is happy, he's happy, and when his wife is mad, he's unhappy.
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Don't be silly.

Gender is a self-perception powered by chromosomal and hormonal qualities together with cultural influence. The ultimate presence can have nothing to do with these things, logically so.
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derp.

it's not about "gender" ... it's about energy.

Masculine energy and feminine energy are very different.

we all have both. Usually one is more predominant than the other. The key/goal is to balance them.
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Holy Spirit is the Mother, God's wife.

God simply knows that when his wife is happy, he's happy, and when his wife is mad, he's unhappy.
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hesright
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Holy Spirit is the Mother, God's wife.

God simply knows that when his wife is happy, he's happy, and when his wife is mad, he's unhappy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73132497


Don't be silly.

Gender is a self-perception powered by chromosomal and hormonal qualities together with cultural influence. The ultimate presence can have nothing to do with these things, logically so.
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derp.

it's not about "gender" ... it's about energy.

Masculine energy and feminine energy are very different.

we all have both. Usually one is more predominant than the other. The key/goal is to balance them.
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There are no such things as masculine or feminine energies. They are meaningless concepts. Energy is energy, it is the pure potentiality of the Spirit.

Our organic lives are dictated by genes and that is where energy acquires form, retaining certain characteristics like masculinity or femininity for a certain period of time.

The Great Spirit in itself transcends these mundane phenomena as it is the very breath of life. It still functions in creatures without gender, like worms.
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Holy Spirit is the Mother, God's wife.

God simply knows that when his wife is happy, he's happy, and when his wife is mad, he's unhappy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73132497


Don't be silly.

Gender is a self-perception powered by chromosomal and hormonal qualities together with cultural influence. The ultimate presence can have nothing to do with these things, logically so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1999463


derp.

it's not about "gender" ... it's about energy.

Masculine energy and feminine energy are very different.

we all have both. Usually one is more predominant than the other. The key/goal is to balance them.
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There are no such things as masculine or feminine energies. They are meaningless concepts. Energy is energy, it is the pure potentiality of the Spirit.

Our organic lives are dictated by genes and that is where energy acquires form, retaining certain characteristics like masculinity or femininity for a certain period of time.

The Great Spirit in itself transcends these mundane phenomena as it is the very breath of life. It still functions in creatures without gender, like worms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1999463


You should learn the basics of how electricity and magnetism works. You'll find that they can't exist without the two gendered forces.

Everything has a gender, even in Heaven everything has a gender Life(female) or Assembly(male).

You must be confused because you come from a country under the control of Allah the God of Butt Sex, who wishes to end gender and replace the true God.
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Holy Spirit is the Mother, God's wife.

God simply knows that when his wife is happy, he's happy, and when his wife is mad, he's unhappy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73132497


Don't be silly.

Gender is a self-perception powered by chromosomal and hormonal qualities together with cultural influence. The ultimate presence can have nothing to do with these things, logically so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1999463


derp.

it's not about "gender" ... it's about energy.

Masculine energy and feminine energy are very different.

we all have both. Usually one is more predominant than the other. The key/goal is to balance them.
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Youre the derp, dude.

"No no no it's not about gender it's about energies".

Then you call the one energy masculine and the other feminine. ..


CAPITAL LOL.
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Don't be silly.

Gender is a self-perception powered by chromosomal and hormonal qualities together with cultural influence. The ultimate presence can have nothing to do with these things, logically so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1999463


derp.

it's not about "gender" ... it's about energy.

Masculine energy and feminine energy are very different.

we all have both. Usually one is more predominant than the other. The key/goal is to balance them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86548517


There are no such things as masculine or feminine energies. They are meaningless concepts. Energy is energy, it is the pure potentiality of the Spirit.

Our organic lives are dictated by genes and that is where energy acquires form, retaining certain characteristics like masculinity or femininity for a certain period of time.

The Great Spirit in itself transcends these mundane phenomena as it is the very breath of life. It still functions in creatures without gender, like worms.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1999463


You should learn the basics of how electricity and magnetism works. You'll find that they can't exist without the two gendered forces.

Everything has a gender, even in Heaven everything has a gender Life(female) or Assembly(male).

You must be confused because you come from a country under the control of Allah the God of Butt Sex, who wishes to end gender and replace the true God.
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exactly.

Magnets..... batteries transmitting electricity (which we are all transmitters of)

even garden hoses have a female end and a male end, lol
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Jesus called Him "He" so definitely not feminine
"It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman)
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Nor easy horses, a horseman.
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen
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Jesus called Him "He" so definitely not feminine
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the earlier more "original" language had denoted HS as feminine.

Rome changed it.
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Jesus called Him "He" so definitely not feminine
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the earlier more "original" language had denoted HS as feminine.

Rome changed it.
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Do you have evidence of that or just guessing
"It's a friendly friendly world" (Andy Kaufman)
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Nor easy horses, a horseman.
And Jesus was a sailor when he walked upon the water And he spent a long time watching from his lonely wooden tower and when He could be certain only drowning men could see Him- Leonard Cohen





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