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I’m a Christian, and I know for a fact that God the Father hates humanity.

 
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I’m a Christian, but over the years I’ve come to certain realizations that are pretty hard for most to accept. There are hard truths in the Bible; one is that God the Father finds humanity totally unacceptable to His sight, and in effect despises us.

1. God killed almost all of humanity in the Flood. That alone speaks volumes. It’s written that God regretted ever creating man, which brings up another issue: regret is the result of making a mistake or error, so the implication is that God can and did, by His own admission, make a mistake. Since he created the angels, and that didn’t work out too well either, He is so far 2 for 2.

2. God used Job as part of a bet he made with the Accuser (possibly the devil), and let the Accuser kill Job’s children and cause him disease to see if he could be broken. When Job asked God as to why He did this to him, God basically told him to shut up, that He was God and could do as He damn well pleased.

3. God sent His Son as a sacrifice so that anyone who belongs to Christ will not be seen by God as human, but will be clothed in Christ’s righteousness, effectively disguising them from God; this could only happen if God is willfully deceiving Himself as to who the person in front of Him really is. Since it’s written that our own “righteousness is as filthy rags” in the sight of God, we can obviously never please Him on our own, but need Christ to run interference for us. To God’s credit, He did give Christ all power and authority in heaven and on Earth, and thus seems to have washed His hands of the whole deal with humanity.

I can see God’s viewpoint in all this; we, along with the angels who fell, must be a great disappointment to Him. God has feelings too, and feelings can and do get hurt. Put yourself in His position; all that work and effort, just wanting a little companionship and eternal friends, and this is what He got for it. I’d be steamed, too. His solution to the human dilemma using Jesus as intercessor was pure genius, and proved that although He can’t stand us, He still loves us in His own way (and I love Him, even though I know the situation, or maybe even because of it). This particular solution was, however, not available for the angel problem, as they are immortal spirit beings and once they sinned, that was it, with no way to be redeemed in His eyes.

Anyway, I felt that this needed to be said. If anyone would like to prove me wrong, go ahead and knock yourself out. I’d love to be proven wrong, but after 60+ years of being a Christian, and with serious Bible study under my belt, I don’t think anyone can do so.
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"Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore
"Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore

"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle.

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You're delusional. Satan hates humanity because we were made in the image of GOD.bsflag
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The real deal is, if you brought this all up to GOD in a conversation like I did, GOD'S Divine and Holy Presence would walk away from you. I had to beg GOD with all my heart to come back. GOD did come back and asked me where I've been.
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Thread: "FREE will" is a MYTH and always has been. But it sells books. Hell is big business.

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I’m a Christian, but over the years I’ve come to certain realizations that are pretty hard for most to accept. There are hard truths in the Bible; one is that God the Father finds humanity totally unacceptable to His sight, and in effect despises us.

1. God killed almost all of humanity in the Flood. That alone speaks volumes. It’s written that God regretted ever creating man, which brings up another issue: regret is the result of making a mistake or error, so the implication is that God can and did, by His own admission, make a mistake. Since he created the angels, and that didn’t work out too well either, He is so far 2 for 2.

2. God used Job as part of a bet he made with the Accuser (possibly the devil), and let the Accuser kill Job’s children and cause him disease to see if he could be broken. When Job asked God as to why He did this to him, God basically told him to shut up, that He was God and could do as He damn well pleased.

3. God sent His Son as a sacrifice so that anyone who belongs to Christ will not be seen by God as human, but will be clothed in Christ’s righteousness, effectively disguising them from God; this could only happen if God is willfully deceiving Himself as to who the person in front of Him really is. Since it’s written that our own “righteousness is as filthy rags” in the sight of God, we can obviously never please Him on our own, but need Christ to run interference for us. To God’s credit, He did give Christ all power and authority in heaven and on Earth, and thus seems to have washed His hands of the whole deal with humanity.

I can see God’s viewpoint in all this; we, along with the angels who fell, must be a great disappointment to Him. God has feelings too, and feelings can and do get hurt. Put yourself in His position; all that work and effort, just wanting a little companionship and eternal friends, and this is what He got for it. I’d be steamed, too. His solution to the human dilemma using Jesus as intercessor was pure genius, and proved that although He can’t stand us, He still loves us in His own way (and I love Him, even though I know the situation, or maybe even because of it). This particular solution was, however, not available for the angel problem, as they are immortal spirit beings and once they sinned, that was it, with no way to be redeemed in His eyes.

Anyway, I felt that this needed to be said. If anyone would like to prove me wrong, go ahead and knock yourself out. I’d love to be proven wrong, but after 60+ years of being a Christian, and with serious Bible study under my belt, I don’t think anyone can do so.
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You have just repeated the hive mind teaching. This stuff is destructive to the teaching of Christ. You are being used to destroy what he taught.
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The real deal is, if you brought this all up to GOD in a conversation like I did, GOD'S Divine and Holy Presence would walk away from you. I had to beg GOD with all my heart to come back. GOD did come back and asked me where I've been.
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Sounds like He didn’t want to discuss the issue.

Not surprising.
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I’m a Christian, but over the years I’ve come to certain realizations that are pretty hard for most to accept. There are hard truths in the Bible; one is that God the Father finds humanity totally unacceptable to His sight, and in effect despises us.

1. God killed almost all of humanity in the Flood. That alone speaks volumes. It’s written that God regretted ever creating man, which brings up another issue: regret is the result of making a mistake or error, so the implication is that God can and did, by His own admission, make a mistake. Since he created the angels, and that didn’t work out too well either, He is so far 2 for 2.

2. God used Job as part of a bet he made with the Accuser (possibly the devil), and let the Accuser kill Job’s children and cause him disease to see if he could be broken. When Job asked God as to why He did this to him, God basically told him to shut up, that He was God and could do as He damn well pleased.

3. God sent His Son as a sacrifice so that anyone who belongs to Christ will not be seen by God as human, but will be clothed in Christ’s righteousness, effectively disguising them from God; this could only happen if God is willfully deceiving Himself as to who the person in front of Him really is. Since it’s written that our own “righteousness is as filthy rags” in the sight of God, we can obviously never please Him on our own, but need Christ to run interference for us. To God’s credit, He did give Christ all power and authority in heaven and on Earth, and thus seems to have washed His hands of the whole deal with humanity.

I can see God’s viewpoint in all this; we, along with the angels who fell, must be a great disappointment to Him. God has feelings too, and feelings can and do get hurt. Put yourself in His position; all that work and effort, just wanting a little companionship and eternal friends, and this is what He got for it. I’d be steamed, too. His solution to the human dilemma using Jesus as intercessor was pure genius, and proved that although He can’t stand us, He still loves us in His own way (and I love Him, even though I know the situation, or maybe even because of it). This particular solution was, however, not available for the angel problem, as they are immortal spirit beings and once they sinned, that was it, with no way to be redeemed in His eyes.

Anyway, I felt that this needed to be said. If anyone would like to prove me wrong, go ahead and knock yourself out. I’d love to be proven wrong, but after 60+ years of being a Christian, and with serious Bible study under my belt, I don’t think anyone can do so.
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You have just repeated the hive mind teaching. This stuff is destructive to the teaching of Christ. You are being used to destroy what he taught.
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What hive mind? And how is this in the least destructive to Christ’s teachings? If anything, it reinforces them.
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The Father of humanity is the Demiurge.
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"Every new child born brings the message that God is not yet discouraged of man." - Tagore
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Last I looked,, Tagore doesn’t have his own book in the Bible, so, pfft.
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The Father of humanity is the Demiurge.
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Not buying that. Not at all.
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1. You aren't a Christian.

2. You are a Satanic little bag.

3. Your lies grow old and are fit for only the lowest morons.
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The real deal is, if you brought this all up to GOD in a conversation like I did, GOD'S Divine and Holy Presence would walk away from you. I had to beg GOD with all my heart to come back. GOD did come back and asked me where I've been.
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Sounds like He didn’t want to discuss the issue.

Not surprising.
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Still, GOD cared and came back to me and told me, "I can do it. Nothing is impossible to me." GOD kept on repeating those incredible words to me until I fell into a deep sleep. I tried to stay awake, but could not. GOD does care for us.
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1. You aren't a Christian.

2. You are a Satanic little bag.

3. Your lies grow old and are fit for only the lowest morons.
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hesright
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You're delusional. Satan hates humanity because we were made in the image of GOD.bsflag
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Could you please address the issues I brought up? I agree that a Satan hates us, but my contention is that God isn’t any too fond of us, either.
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The Father of humanity is the Demiurge.
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Who the fuck thought up Demi urge?

Thats like the feeling you need to shit?
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1. You aren't a Christian.

2. You are a Satanic little bag.

3. Your lies grow old and are fit for only the lowest morons.
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Wrong.

Wrong.

No lies, only observation., you might want to try it yourself sometime.
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To prove your headline wrong that God does Loves us, have you forgotten
John 3:16-17?

16For God so loved the world that He gave His one and onlye Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
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The real deal is, if you brought this all up to GOD in a conversation like I did, GOD'S Divine and Holy Presence would walk away from you. I had to beg GOD with all my heart to come back. GOD did come back and asked me where I've been.
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Sounds like He didn’t want to discuss the issue.

Not surprising.
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Still, GOD cared and came back to me and told me, "I can do it. Nothing is impossible to me." GOD kept on repeating those incredible words to me until I fell into a deep sleep. I tried to stay awake, but could not. GOD does care for us.
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A human father will care for his child, even though he doesn’t necessarily have affection for it. Don’t confuse duty with love.
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I’d love to be proven wrong, but after 60+ years of being a Christian, and with serious Bible study under my belt, I don’t think anyone can do so.
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self-righteous and prideful.

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I’m a Christian, but over the years I’ve come to certain realizations that are pretty hard for most to accept. There are hard truths in the Bible; one is that God the Father finds humanity totally unacceptable to His sight, and in effect despises us.

1. God killed almost all of humanity in the Flood. That alone speaks volumes. It’s written that God regretted ever creating man, which brings up another issue: regret is the result of making a mistake or error, so the implication is that God can and did, by His own admission, make a mistake. Since he created the angels, and that didn’t work out too well either, He is so far 2 for 2.

2. God used Job as part of a bet he made with the Accuser (possibly the devil), and let the Accuser kill Job’s children and cause him disease to see if he could be broken. When Job asked God as to why He did this to him, God basically told him to shut up, that He was God and could do as He damn well pleased.

3. God sent His Son as a sacrifice so that anyone who belongs to Christ will not be seen by God as human, but will be clothed in Christ’s righteousness, effectively disguising them from God; this could only happen if God is willfully deceiving Himself as to who the person in front of Him really is. Since it’s written that our own “righteousness is as filthy rags” in the sight of God, we can obviously never please Him on our own, but need Christ to run interference for us. To God’s credit, He did give Christ all power and authority in heaven and on Earth, and thus seems to have washed His hands of the whole deal with humanity.

I can see God’s viewpoint in all this; we, along with the angels who fell, must be a great disappointment to Him. God has feelings too, and feelings can and do get hurt. Put yourself in His position; all that work and effort, just wanting a little companionship and eternal friends, and this is what He got for it. I’d be steamed, too. His solution to the human dilemma using Jesus as intercessor was pure genius, and proved that although He can’t stand us, He still loves us in His own way (and I love Him, even though I know the situation, or maybe even because of it). This particular solution was, however, not available for the angel problem, as they are immortal spirit beings and once they sinned, that was it, with no way to be redeemed in His eyes.

Anyway, I felt that this needed to be said. If anyone would like to prove me wrong, go ahead and knock yourself out. I’d love to be proven wrong, but after 60+ years of being a Christian, and with serious Bible study under my belt, I don’t think anyone can do so.
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God is not a man in a suit . That which is god creates ONLY IN LOVE. You are not right. I do not accept nore I like Christian god..it is not of Christ. And it is not real. There is not a fake sky man up there. god the Father acts thru humans who can manifest him.
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To prove your headline wrong that God does Loves us, have you forgotten
John 3:16-17?

16For God so loved the world that He gave His one and onlye Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
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Get out your Strong’s concordance and look up the word “world” and “love” in that passage; you might be quite surprised. Secondly the verse you quoted is a mistranslation, as it should read:

“that everyone who believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life.”

Should, not shall. Big, big difference. Your name’s written in the Book of Life in pencil, and God has a very effective eraser.
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You're delusional. Satan hates humanity because we were made in the image of GOD.bsflag
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You’re very close, OP.

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“Mental slavery is the worst form of slavery.
It gives you the illusion of freedom,
makes you trust, love, and defend your oppressor,
while making an enemy of those
who are trying to free you or open your eyes.”
-Fiyah

“None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.”
-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

“You have been programmed to resist the very person that is here to set you free, from the prison of your Mind... You are not free... everything you are has been manufactured by Minds that have not your best interest. You are imprisoned by beliefs and not reality. Religions are mental programs to imprison your Mind.”

-SOL
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I’d love to be proven wrong, but after 60+ years of being a Christian, and with serious Bible study under my belt, I don’t think anyone can do so.
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self-righteous and prideful.

lopanmad
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No, learned and Holy Spirit-led. Maybe it sounds prideful to you, but the only righteousness I have is from Christ, and no pride except in Him.
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You’re very close, OP.

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Zovalex! I honestly thought that Covid might have gotten you. Glad to see you’re posting after so long. We had some interesting discussions. Can I try to convince you one more time to drop the atheism?
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The real deal is, if you brought this all up to GOD in a conversation like I did, GOD'S Divine and Holy Presence would walk away from you. I had to beg GOD with all my heart to come back. GOD did come back and asked me where I've been.
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Sounds like He didn’t want to discuss the issue.

Not surprising.
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Still, GOD cared and came back to me and told me, "I can do it. Nothing is impossible to me." GOD kept on repeating those incredible words to me until I fell into a deep sleep. I tried to stay awake, but could not. GOD does care for us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 85666567


A human father will care for his child, even though he doesn’t necessarily have affection for it. Don’t confuse duty with love.
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The Holy Spirit I felt in GOD ALMIGHTY'S Divine Presence was Love, Peace, Security, surrounding all of me. I am sorry you never felt this in union with your Creator.
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Did Christ come to bring peace, or a sword?
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The Father of humanity is the Demiurge.
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Not buying that. Not at all.
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He made mankind after an image he was shown. Some people call him the creator because of it. The Lord of the Garden because he is the Chief Archon.
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I’m a Christian, but over the years I’ve come to certain realizations that are pretty hard for most to accept. There are hard truths in the Bible; one is that God the Father finds humanity totally unacceptable to His sight, and in effect despises us.

1. God killed almost all of humanity in the Flood. That alone speaks volumes. It’s written that God regretted ever creating man, which brings up another issue: regret is the result of making a mistake or error, so the implication is that God can and did, by His own admission, make a mistake. Since he created the angels, and that didn’t work out too well either, He is so far 2 for 2.

2. God used Job as part of a bet he made with the Accuser (possibly the devil), and let the Accuser kill Job’s children and cause him disease to see if he could be broken. When Job asked God as to why He did this to him, God basically told him to shut up, that He was God and could do as He damn well pleased.

3. God sent His Son as a sacrifice so that anyone who belongs to Christ will not be seen by God as human, but will be clothed in Christ’s righteousness, effectively disguising them from God; this could only happen if God is willfully deceiving Himself as to who the person in front of Him really is. Since it’s written that our own “righteousness is as filthy rags” in the sight of God, we can obviously never please Him on our own, but need Christ to run interference for us. To God’s credit, He did give Christ all power and authority in heaven and on Earth, and thus seems to have washed His hands of the whole deal with humanity.

I can see God’s viewpoint in all this; we, along with the angels who fell, must be a great disappointment to Him. God has feelings too, and feelings can and do get hurt. Put yourself in His position; all that work and effort, just wanting a little companionship and eternal friends, and this is what He got for it. I’d be steamed, too. His solution to the human dilemma using Jesus as intercessor was pure genius, and proved that although He can’t stand us, He still loves us in His own way (and I love Him, even though I know the situation, or maybe even because of it). This particular solution was, however, not available for the angel problem, as they are immortal spirit beings and once they sinned, that was it, with no way to be redeemed in His eyes.

Anyway, I felt that this needed to be said. If anyone would like to prove me wrong, go ahead and knock yourself out. I’d love to be proven wrong, but after 60+ years of being a Christian, and with serious Bible study under my belt, I don’t think anyone can do so.
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So God made us in his image and he's disappointed? Isn't that his fault if we're his creation. That's like saying he's disappointed in the universe which he made. He made it, he can fix it, he's omnipotent.
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Hear are some wise words for you and may God lift you up and open your heart in all love & truth in the Lord God & Savior Jesus Christ Holy name Amen.


Ephesians 4:30-31
30And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, in whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

31Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, outcry and slander, along with every form of malice. 32Be kind and tenderhearted to one another, forgiving each other just as in Christ God forgave you.

God bless





GLP