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You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?

 
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
cuz Sol/System is Satan's ground..
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Do we not refer to children as angels?
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I don’t know I think you went too negative especially on that last part.
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My whole argument is based on scripture.
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lolsign
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I'll make this fast.

"God" kills Babies. In Exodus, what does "God" do to the Egyptians to free Moses and his people? He kills all of their first born.

Why does an omnipotent and benevolent entity to resort to killing children?
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I’ll need the exact scripture thanks
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My whole argument is based on scripture.
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lolsign
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I'll make this fast.

"God" kills Babies. In Exodus, what does "God" do to the Egyptians to free Moses and his people? He kills all of their first born.

Why does an omnipotent and benevolent entity to resort to killing children?
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I’ll need the exact scripture thanks
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I do this often but I don't feel like it today. I'm not trying to convince you. Read the book of Exodus yourself. It won't take you long, at least it shouldn't.


Whenever you finish that up, read the book of Numbers to see how "God" orders his followers to kill thousands of little boys and little girls who aren't "virgins" and keep all the virgin little girls as slaves.
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
There is many gods in OT who claimed to be real God the source. Real God dont play with stupid shit like sacrifice. Real God os the consciousness of everything in existance
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
God didn't create the murder of Abel because Cain was jealous?
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But he allowed it to happen by his natural law and omniscience. He knew it was coming and let it.
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
EVERYONE wants to believe in "GOD" but NOBODY wants to read the BIBLE.




14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
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lolsign
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I'll make this fast.

"God" kills Babies. In Exodus, what does "God" do to the Egyptians to free Moses and his people? He kills all of their first born.

Why does an omnipotent and benevolent entity to resort to killing children?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86774685


I’ll need the exact scripture thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75130560



I do this often but I don't feel like it today. I'm not trying to convince you. Read the book of Exodus yourself. It won't take you long, at least it shouldn't.


Whenever you finish that up, read the book of Numbers to see how "God" orders his followers to kill thousands of little boys and little girls who aren't "virgins" and keep all the virgin little girls as slaves.
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Not that simple. There is more context to it. Some of those events concern punishment from God.
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
The animals on the other hand wonder why does God allow humans to exists, because most of evil on Earth originates from us, and also humans eat the animals...

Now if this is OK, then it should be also completely OK if ETs or demons keep us here as cattle and eat us (or our energies). Right?

cool2
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Matthew 2 16


16 When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the Magi, he was furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in Bethlehem and its vicinity who were two years old and under, in accordance with the time he had learned from the Magi. 17 Then what was said through the prophet Jeremiah was fulfilled:

18 “A voice is heard in Ramah,
    weeping and great mourning,
Rachel weeping for her children
    and refusing to be comforted,
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And who does not see that that one day they may have escaped the attention of a King occupied with so many cares, and that afterwards when the things done
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I'll make this fast.

"God" kills Babies. In Exodus, what does "God" do to the Egyptians to free Moses and his people? He kills all of their first born.

Why does an omnipotent and benevolent entity to resort to killing children?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86774685


I’ll need the exact scripture thanks
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75130560



I do this often but I don't feel like it today. I'm not trying to convince you. Read the book of Exodus yourself. It won't take you long, at least it shouldn't.


Whenever you finish that up, read the book of Numbers to see how "God" orders his followers to kill thousands of little boys and little girls who aren't "virgins" and keep all the virgin little girls as slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86774685


Not that simple. There is more context to it. Some of those events concern punishment from God.
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The Bible says children shall not be punished for the crimes of their fathers


but yet, it also says children shall be punished for the crimes of their fathers.



Which is correct?
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
The animals on the other hand wonder why does God allow humans to exists, because most of evil on Earth originates from us, and also humans eat the animals...

Now if this is OK, then it should be also completely OK if ETs or demons keep us here as cattle and eat us (or our energies). Right?

cool2
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Sorry but no animals are not wondering that. We just look like some kind of sophisticated ant hive to animals. We are like bees mixed with monkeys to them.
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I’ll need the exact scripture thanks
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I do this often but I don't feel like it today. I'm not trying to convince you. Read the book of Exodus yourself. It won't take you long, at least it shouldn't.


Whenever you finish that up, read the book of Numbers to see how "God" orders his followers to kill thousands of little boys and little girls who aren't "virgins" and keep all the virgin little girls as slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86774685


Not that simple. There is more context to it. Some of those events concern punishment from God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75910636



The Bible says children shall not be punished for the crimes of their fathers


but yet, it also says children shall be punished for the crimes of their fathers.



Which is correct?
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Again you are not providing scripture nor context just making rough statements
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
The animals on the other hand wonder why does God allow humans to exists, because most of evil on Earth originates from us, and also humans eat the animals...

Now if this is OK, then it should be also completely OK if ETs or demons keep us here as cattle and eat us (or our energies). Right?

cool2
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As above so below.


If "God" created everything then he made it this way
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
The animals on the other hand wonder why does God allow humans to exists, because most of evil on Earth originates from us, and also humans eat the animals...

Now if this is OK, then it should be also completely OK if ETs or demons keep us here as cattle and eat us (or our energies). Right?

cool2
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As above so below.


If "God" created everything then he made it this way
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That isn’t the Bible dumbass
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Could be some kind of test, and a way to see who is he dealing dealing with, for a future choice he will make among all humans. Since he gave humanity freewill, all humans choose their way of living and let the spirits enter in them, to control their minds and their lives, making it a way of living. God sees your choices and what kind of spirits you have choosen in you, to be with you, so, he make a judgement about you and about what laws you have borken in porpuise, by your own choice by choosing that kind of spirits.. And you are out of te garde, like adam and eve. -No way to lie to himm.
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
The animals on the other hand wonder why does God allow humans to exists, because most of evil on Earth originates from us, and also humans eat the animals...

Now if this is OK, then it should be also completely OK if ETs or demons keep us here as cattle and eat us (or our energies). Right?

cool2
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As above so below.


If "God" created everything then he made it this way
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That isn’t the Bible dumbass
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Did I say it was?


damned
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I do this often but I don't feel like it today. I'm not trying to convince you. Read the book of Exodus yourself. It won't take you long, at least it shouldn't.


Whenever you finish that up, read the book of Numbers to see how "God" orders his followers to kill thousands of little boys and little girls who aren't "virgins" and keep all the virgin little girls as slaves.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86774685


Not that simple. There is more context to it. Some of those events concern punishment from God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75910636



The Bible says children shall not be punished for the crimes of their fathers


but yet, it also says children shall be punished for the crimes of their fathers.



Which is correct?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86774685


Again you are not providing scripture nor context just making rough statements
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74632224



I could read the Bible to you, or you can just read it yourself? Do you have trouble reading?


damned
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Could be some kind of test, and a way to see who is he dealing dealing with, for a future choice he will make among all humans. Since he gave humanity freewill, all humans choose their way of living and let the spirits enter in them, to control their minds and their lives, making it a way of living. God sees your choices and what kind of spirits you have choosen in you, to be with you, so, he make a judgement about you and about what laws you have borken in porpuise, by your own choice by choosing that kind of spirits.. And you are out of te garde, like adam and eve. -No way to lie to himm.
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It IS a test. Who will know the true god and who will follow blindly.


99% so far have failed the test.
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Adam or eve never killed anyone, and yet with the serpent condemned everyone to death?
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Could be some kind of test, and a way to see who is he dealing dealing with, for a future choice he will make among all humans. Since he gave humanity freewill, all humans choose their way of living and let the spirits enter in them, to control their minds and their lives, making it a way of living. God sees your choices and what kind of spirits you have choosen in you, to be with you, so, he make a judgement about you and about what laws you have borken in porpuise, by your own choice by choosing that kind of spirits.. And you are out of te garde, like adam and eve. -No way to lie to himm.
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It IS a test. Who will know the true god and who will follow blindly.


99% so far have failed the test.
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lol or the fact that humans were just a experiment by a alien race …of course they can’t let themselves known so they give you religions to believe in something to cover their tracks ……
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Could be some kind of test, and a way to see who is he dealing dealing with, for a future choice he will make among all humans. Since he gave humanity freewill, all humans choose their way of living and let the spirits enter in them, to control their minds and their lives, making it a way of living. God sees your choices and what kind of spirits you have choosen in you, to be with you, so, he make a judgement about you and about what laws you have borken in porpuise, by your own choice by choosing that kind of spirits.. And you are out of te garde, like adam and eve. -No way to lie to himm.
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So then the real question is why did he allow free will. He would have known some of the issues that could arise from it. He’s basically putting a huge aspect of reality out of his control. Here’s a question does god need to give up some of his omniscience for free will to exist?
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Mankind gives up their godliness by wrongly exerting their freewill, it's like limiting your potential not God's
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
The animals on the other hand wonder why does God allow humans to exists, because most of evil on Earth originates from us, and also humans eat the animals...

Now if this is OK, then it should be also completely OK if ETs or demons keep us here as cattle and eat us (or our energies). Right?

cool2
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As above so below.


If "God" created everything then he made it this way
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Yep, you got it. It is utterly arrogant to imagine that humans are the only intelligent species in the universe, and higher life forms might not be more loved by God than we are.

There are also countless clues and even proofs that aliens do live on Earth, probably below the surface and oceans.

I have also heard that about 8 million children disappear every year globally. Now, is it such a stretch of imagination if at least some of them get really eaten by the aliens? Even if not their meat, how about their adrenochrome, or other emotional/etheric energies?
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
EVERYONE wants to believe in "GOD" but NOBODY wants to read the BIBLE.




14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
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Numbers 22:29 Because thou hast mocked me: I would there were a sword in mine hand


30 And the ass said unto Balaam, Am not I thine ass, upon which thou hast ridden ever since I was thine unto this day? was I ever wont to do so unto thee? and he said, Nay.
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Numbers 22:34 for I knew not that thou stoodest in the way against me: now therefore, if it displease thee, I will get me back again.
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Could be some kind of test, and a way to see who is he dealing dealing with, for a future choice he will make among all humans. Since he gave humanity freewill, all humans choose their way of living and let the spirits enter in them, to control their minds and their lives, making it a way of living. God sees your choices and what kind of spirits you have choosen in you, to be with you, so, he make a judgement about you and about what laws you have borken in porpuise, by your own choice by choosing that kind of spirits.. And you are out of te garde, like adam and eve. -No way to lie to himm.
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It IS a test. Who will know the true god and who will follow blindly.


99% so far have failed the test.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86774685


lol or the fact that humans were just a experiment by a alien race …of course they can’t let themselves known so they give you religions to believe in something to cover their tracks ……
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Makes good sense. The way humans are allowed to experiment with animals (even genetically re-engineer them), more intelligent beings can be allowed to do the same to us.

Bible fanatics: "...but, but, that is not in the Bible, so it can't possibly be true..." :-))

What if the corresponding holy scripture of aliens does write exactly that, and they don't give a damn about our Bible and our beliefs?
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Containment
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What do you mean containment? God is all powerful he can strike anything out of existence but yet he does not.
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God is all powerful is a declaration coined by who? If your word we're good you'd understand why God can't break his word with others for you.
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Containment
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What do you mean containment? God is all powerful he can strike anything out of existence but yet he does not.
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God is all powerful is a declaration coined by who? If your word we're good you'd understand why God can't break his word with others for you.
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I’m going by their rules how many damn times do I have to explain this? I don’t personally believe any of this shit. I have no idea what is happening
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Re: You wonder why God allows the devil and demons to exist ?
Maybe it's all made up bullshit..





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