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Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 441694 United Kingdom 06/10/2008 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.geocities.com] A starting point for those that prefer NOT to look at the sun, but have their eyes and minds open enough to do some bloody re-search IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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Rebecca User ID: 445849 United States 06/10/2008 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh yes. I got second degree burns on my nose in May in Wisconsin. That is unheard of for these parts. I grew up in Cali and the sun was much stronger there and it was hard to get a tan in Wi. Well, now you can. In a much shorter period of time, I might add. Somethings up. |
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Right Brain User ID: 429601 United States 06/10/2008 12:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Those who fight so hard against Op's postulation must be protecting something. Otherwise, why wouldn't they just let OP alone? If OP is crazy, then why don't you just let her howl at the wind. Debunkers always reinforce my opinion that there's truth about. I know why I'm here I'm just too lazy to do it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 United Kingdom 06/10/2008 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The fact that the Sun is rising and setting too far north is obvious to anyone who cares to take a look. Quoting: AmericanGirlAnyone who isn't blind can see it. OK how far North should the Sun be, and how far away is it from this position? Very simple question |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 United Kingdom 06/10/2008 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Debunkers always reinforce my opinion that there's truth about.. Quoting: Dee 536Isn't that the truth... aahh.. Dee your back So are you willing to let be predict the location of sunset at your lattitude - or do you have no interest in checking your theory against reality? |
Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 441694 United Kingdom 06/10/2008 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Debunkers always reinforce my opinion that there's truth about.. Quoting: Dee 536Isn't that the truth... Realy now.......... doesn`t it depend WHO you belive.... Hmmmmm!! IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |
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Setheory User ID: 383050 United States 06/10/2008 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Debunkers always reinforce my opinion that there's truth about.. Quoting: Dee 536Isn't that the truth... Yes, a fine example of logic. We should test all theory this way. Make up some "bunk" and if debunkers show up, then it must be true...brilliant. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 United Kingdom 06/10/2008 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how many of us got marginalized and laughed at when first we came to understand the earth is not flat. Quoting: Dee 536Think this routine the debunkers play is tiresome. I do! What I find tiresome Dee 536 is your complete inability top come up with any objective statement as where the Sun should be seen on any particular date at any particular location. How on earth can you know that the 'Sun is too far North', if you have no idea where Science says the Sun should be in the first place. I have repeatedly offered to tell you where the Sun sets at your location according to Science, allowing you to objectively test for yourself whether your theory is true, yet you have repeatedly ignored this offer, why is that? |
Dee User ID: 536 United States 06/10/2008 01:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep that is pretty much it.. NO interest, no interest in the mind games you play.. both boring and way over done. |
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Setheory User ID: 383050 United States 06/10/2008 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wonder how many of us got marginalized and laughed at when first we came to understand the earth is not flat. Quoting: Dee 536Probably none of us, as that was hundreds of years ago. Who made that determination? Well, the answer is a bunch of smart fellows utilizing logic, math and scientific instuments...in other words scientists. These are the same people that today will tell you there is nothing wrong with the Earth's obliquity. See the difference? |
JimmyK User ID: 387015 United States 06/10/2008 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Greetings, Just a question and I admit I am not sure of the answer. But would that not then change the position of the auroral ovals? I am an amature in Astronomy but I have been taught the ovals are in fixed position in relation to The Sun. Thefeore if the position were to change it seems so would the position of the ovals. Midnight the oval (North) is at roughly 23 degrees whereas mid day it runs at roughly 12. Has anyone tracked any changes in the position? That would be a sure indicator that OP is on to something but to my knowledge there has been no change. Regards JimmyK |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 United Kingdom 06/10/2008 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So are you willing to let be predict the location of sunset at your lattitude - or do you have no interest in checking your theory against reality? Quoting: Dee 536Yep that is pretty much it So no interest in checking your theory against reality...not really a suprise but there you go, for someone who claims to be seeking truth you seem very unwilling to look out the window and test your own beliefs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 443487 United States 06/10/2008 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the debunkers which hold (and have held throughout history) humanity back from exponential evolution into new fields, and it's the debunkers which are mans worst enemy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 06/10/2008 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So are you willing to let be predict the location of sunset at your lattitude - or do you have no interest in checking your theory against reality? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 318980Yep that is pretty much it So no interest in checking your theory against reality...not really a suprise but there you go, for someone who claims to be seeking truth you seem very unwilling to look out the window and test your own beliefs. LOL Welcome to GLP; no reality allowed! |
Setheory User ID: 383050 United States 06/10/2008 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So are you willing to let be predict the location of sunset at your lattitude - or do you have no interest in checking your theory against reality? Quoting: Dee 536Yep that is pretty much it.. NO interest, no interest in the mind games you play.. both boring and way over done. Well, that says it all. Dee liked science when it told us the Earth was not flat. However, when it comes to testing her theory, she wants nothing to do with it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 373696 United States 06/10/2008 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do debunkers exist? are they emotionally and intellectually empty that they feel a need to attack others and take a negative position regardless of the topic to satisfy their own inner ego and seek attention? Why do debunkers exist only in controvercial circles where an overwhelming majority support from the people would hurt those in power? And what is it exactly that debunkers are trying to achieve by smearing open minded intellectuals who contribute to progression of the human race? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443487It's the debunkers which hold (and have held throughout history) humanity back from exponential evolution into new fields, and it's the debunkers which are mans worst enemy. It's the debunkers who discourage people from leaping off cliffs to see if they can fly. But I'll make an exception in your case. Try to pick a good, tall one. |
Setheory User ID: 383050 United States 06/10/2008 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the debunkers which hold (and have held throughout history) humanity back from exponential evolution into new fields, and it's the debunkers which are mans worst enemy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443487Yes, "bunk" has long been a mechanism for human advancement. LONG LIVE BUNK! So say us all? |
Schmieder User ID: 324203 United States 06/10/2008 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Probably none of us, as that was hundreds of years ago. Quoting: Setheory 383050Who made that determination? Well, the answer is a bunch of smart fellows utilizing logic, math and scientific instuments...in other words scientists. These are the same people that today will tell you there is nothing wrong with the Earth's obliquity. See the difference? Dude, It was viewing the ships as they left the harbor and people noticed they could only see the top half after some distance occurred between the viewer and the ship. THAT, is what started the question "Is the world really flat or is it rounded?" A simple observation lead to the discovery of the world being round, spherical. And tell me, what scientific instruments back then were used to calculate the earths shape? Their brains, and it was a bunch of sailors that actually lead the discovery. A bunch of alcoholic sailors. AND, those who 1st supported the idea the world was rounded were ridiculed constantly, they were socially unaccepted. It was not scientists today who made the discovery then. In fact, the Greeks before Columbus's time new the world was round. The church was suppressing the idea from the public. Just like TPTB are suppressing knowledge now! Educate yourself. |
Right Brain User ID: 429601 United States 06/10/2008 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Debunkers always reinforce my opinion that there's truth about.. Quoting: Setheory 383050Isn't that the truth... Yes, a fine example of logic. We should test all theory this way. Make up some "bunk" and if debunkers show up, then it must be true...brilliant. If it's so obvious that she's full of bunk, then why do we need you? Why do you need to prove anything? You and the moon landing debunkers are the most virulant strain of virus on the planet. If you could get into the bloodstream, you'd snuff out all life. If it's so obvious, laugh and go along your merry way. But you don't. You keep at it until your last breath. So either: 1. You have a vested interest in debunking this topic. 2. You're an egomaniacal asshole that just can't let it alone. Which is it? I know why I'm here I'm just too lazy to do it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 318980 United Kingdom 06/10/2008 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's the debunkers which hold (and have held throughout history) humanity back from exponential evolution into new fields, and it's the debunkers which are mans worst enemy. Quoting: Setheory 383050Yes, "bunk" has long been a mechanism for human advancement. LONG LIVE BUNK! So say us all? Absolutely - We advance by theorising as to how things are and testing those theories against what we can observe, In the process a lot of theories turn out to be 'bunk' when observations fail to match their predictions. Nothing wrong with theorising about anything, what is definitely wrong is being unwilling to test your theory against observations. |
Cynical Realist Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 441694 United Kingdom 06/10/2008 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do debunkers exist? are they emotionally and intellectually empty that they feel a need to attack others and take a negative position regardless of the topic to satisfy their own inner ego and seek attention? Why do debunkers exist only in controvercial circles where an overwhelming majority support from the people would hurt those in power? And what is it exactly that debunkers are trying to achieve by smearing open minded intellectuals who contribute to progression of the human race? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 443487It's the debunkers which hold (and have held throughout history) humanity back from exponential evolution into new fields, and it's the debunkers which are mans worst enemy. Re: SUN setting in the NORTH? Quote 10:30 PM. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 448875Pretty soon... if this continues, the sun will not set for people in the UK during the summer. Its Posts like these that come from "alrmist" bunkers that make me a so called "debunker". Yet again go out do some re-search and many questions will be answered..... "Hey go and do re-search"..... OMG i must sound like a de-bunker.... IF YOU HAVE A FEVER DO NOT LOWER IT WITH MEDS.... A FEVER IS AN IMMUNE SYSTEM RESPONSE TO A PATHOGEN (VIRUS, BACTERIA ETC..) IT MEANS YOUR IMMUNE SYSTEM IS WORKING PROPERLY....DONT USE DRUGS TO LOWER YOUR TEMP. |