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Pope Paul VI: A gay pope?
And connections to the gay mafia in the Vatican, the black nobility and Aldo Moro.


Interesting history.


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In 1976 Paul VI became the first pontiff in the modern era to deny the accusation of homosexuality. On 29 December 1975, the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a document entitled Persona Humana: Declaration on Certain Questions concerning Sexual Ethics, that reaffirmed church teaching that pre- or extramarital sex, homosexual activity, and masturbation are sinful acts.[152][153] In response, Roger Peyrefitte, who had already written in two of his books that Paul VI had a longtime homosexual relationship, repeated his charges in a magazine interview with a French gay magazine that, when reprinted in Italian, brought the rumours to a wider public and caused an uproar. He said that the Pope was a hypocrite who had a longtime sexual relationship with an actor.[154][155][156] Widespread rumours identified the actor as Paolo Carlini,[157] who had a small part in the Audrey Hepburn film Roman Holiday (1953). In a brief address to a crowd of approximately 20,000 in St Peter's Square on 18 April, Paul VI called the charges "horrible and slanderous insinuations" and appealed for prayers on his behalf. Special prayers for the Pope were said in all Italian Catholic churches in "a day of consolation".[155][157][e] The charges have resurfaced periodically. In 1994, Franco Bellegrandi, a former Vatican honour chamberlain and correspondent for the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, alleged that Paul VI had been blackmailed and had promoted other gay men to positions of power within the Vatican.[159] In 2006, the newspaper L'Espresso reported that the private papers of police commander General Giorgio Manes accepted the blackmail story as true, and that they claimed Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro had been asked to help.[157][160]


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Pope Paul VI abolished many Vatican City positions with the motu proprio document Pontificalis Domus (English: The Papal Household) in 1968. As well as changing the name of the group from Papal Court to Papal Household, many of the positions occupied by the Black Nobility were abolished. According to the motu proprio: "Many of the offices entrusted to members of the Papal Household were deprived of their function, continuing to exist as purely honorary positions, without much correspondence to concrete needs of the times."[4] Many of these positions and the Papal Court itself were still set up for administering the Papal States, which had been lost in 1870. The Black Nobility's perks, such as Vatican City licence plates, were also withdrawn. Some Black Nobles resented these changes. According to diplomat and author Roger Peyrefitte, it was members of the Black Nobility who first told him of the Pope's alleged association with an actor, which eventually led to Peyreffite's public statements and subsequent scandal.[5] In May 1977, some members of the Black Nobility, led by Princess Elvina Pallavicini, started courting traditional Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre.[6]


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RE. PEYREFITTE:


Roger Peyrefitte (French pronunciation: [ʁɔʒe pɛʁfit]; 17 August 1907 – 5 November 2000) was a French diplomat, writer of bestseller novels and non-fiction, and a defender of gay rights and pederasty.


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Paul VI and Aldo Moro:


On 16 March 1978, former Italian prime minister Aldo Moro—a friend of Paul VI's from his FUCI student days—was kidnapped by a far-left Italian terrorist group known as the Red Brigades. The kidnapping kept the world and the Pope in suspense for 55 days.[163] On 20 April, Moro directly appealed to the Pope to intervene as Pope Pius XII had intervened in the case of Professor Giuliano Vassalli in the same situation.[164] The eighty-year-old Paul VI wrote a letter to the Red Brigades:

I have no mandate to speak to you, and I am not bound by any private interests in his regard. But I love him as a member of the great human family as a friend of student days and by a very special title as a brother in faith and as a son of the Church of Christ. I make an appeal that you will certainly not ignore. On my knees I beg you, free Aldo Moro, simply without conditions, not so much because of my humble and well-meaning intercession, but because he shares with you the common dignity of a brother in humanity. Men of the Red Brigades, leave me, the interpreter of the voices of so many of our fellow citizens, the hope that in your heart feelings of humanity will triumph. In prayer and always loving you I await proof of that.[164]

Some in the Italian government accused the Pope of treating the Red Brigades too kindly. Paul VI continued looking for ways to pay ransom for Moro, but his efforts were fruitless. On 9 May, the bullet-riddled body of Aldo Moro was found in a car in Rome.[165] Pope Paul VI later celebrated his State Funeral Mass.

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Better gay than pedo !!!!
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Aldo Romeo Luigi Moro (Italian pronunciation: [ˈaldo ˈmɔːro]; 23 September 1916 – 9 May 1978) was an Italian statesman and prominent member of Christian Democracy (DC) and its centre-left wing.[1] He served as prime minister of Italy in five terms from December 1963 to June 1968 and from November 1974 to July 1976.[2][3]...

During his kidnapping, Moro wrote several letters to the DC leaders and to Pope Paul VI. Some of those letters, including one that was very critical of Andreotti, were kept secret for more than a decade and published only in the early 1990s.[5] In his letters, Moro said that the state's primary focus should be saving lives and that the government should comply with his kidnappers' demands. Most of the DC's leaders argued that the letters did not express Moro's genuine wishes, arguing they were written under duress, and thus refused all negotiations. This position was held in stark contrast to the requests of Moro's family. In his appeal to the terrorists, Pope Paul VI asked them to release Moro "without conditions".[135] The specified "without conditions" is controversial; according to some sources, it was added to Paul VI's letter against his will, and that the Pope wanted to negotiate with the kidnappers to secure the safety of Moro. According to Antonio Mennini, Pope Paul VI had saved ₤10 billion to pay a ransom in order to save Moro.[136]


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Better gay than pedo !!!!
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A compromised gay pope may have been exploited by pederasts.
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It was a French advocate of pederasty that broke the scandal of Paul's possible gay affair.
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Both Paul and Moro criticized for their sympathies to the Italian socialist and communist hard left.


Moro may have paid the ultimate price for that vis-a-vis Operation Gladio.


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Why does it matter?

Are you looking for a boyfriend?
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Why does it matter?

Are you looking for a boyfriend?
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No, dude.


And tell your dad to stop calling me.


I don't swing that way.
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One of the Popes was a woman.

Vagina-possessing person.

Maybe.

Myth?

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Better gay than pedo !!!!
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A compromised gay pope may have been exploited by pederasts.
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"They" would not allow an uncompromisable man to become pope.
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Why does it matter?


Shows the gay mafia was already deeply entrenched in the Vatican in the 70's -- long before they were instrumental in replacing Benedict XVI with the impostor anti-Pope, Bergoglio.
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Better gay than pedo !!!!
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A compromised gay pope may have been exploited by pederasts.
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"They" would not allow an uncompromisable man to become pope.
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They killed the next pope within a month.


Probably because he wouldn't go aking with the financial corruption.


A point well taken!
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Catholic expert details 'Huge homosexual underground in the Church'

KRAKOW, February 26, 2013, (LifeSiteNews.com) - A recent paper by a Ph.D. priest from Poland has been circling the globe in recent weeks and given heightened prominence by the recent revelations of a Vatican inquiry into a “gay mafia” inside the Vatican. “Standing with the Pope against homoheresy,” was written in late 2012 by Fr. Dariusz Oko, Ph.D., a priest of the Archdiocese of Krakow and Assistant Professor at the John Paul II Pontifical University in Krakow.

Fr. Oko notes that his discovery of a “huge homosexual underground in the Church” came from his work in philosophical criticism of homosexual propaganda and ideology, a study he was encouraged to undertake by various bishops and cardinals.

“I began my work as a struggle against a deadly, external threat to Christianity, but then gradually discovered,” he said, that “the enemy is not only outside the Church, but within it, as well,”

In his essay, the philosophy professor reveals his own run in with a homosexual clique in the Roman Catholic Church blocking justice for those abused by homosexual clergy, in this case a homosexual bishop.

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The former Vatican ambassador to the United States told the Washington Post a gay mafia among Church leadership is blocking attempts to seriously address clerical sexual abuse.

In an extensive interview, snippets of which were published Monday, Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò said that the sexual abuse crisis would be “far less severe” if the “problem of homosexuality in the priesthood were honestly acknowledged and properly addressed.”

“Given the overwhelming evidence, it is mind-boggling that the word ‘homosexuality’ has not appeared once, in any of the recent official documents of the Holy See” dealing with clerical sexual abuse, Viganò told the Post.

Instead, a “gay mafia” among the bishops, seeking to protect themselves, was “sabotaging all efforts at reform,” he said.

Late last August, Archbishop Viganò released a shocking 11-page report declaring that in 2013 he had personally informed Pope Francis of the serial homosexual abuse of then-Cardinal Theodore McCarrick, but that the pope had ignored the information, elevating McCarrick to a position of influence in the Vatican.


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Babylonian Baal worship has always been gay. It's has always included gay, bisexual, child prostitutes etc.

Pope Gregory the first hated the divine feminine so much he was THE person who started the lie that Mary Magdalene was a prostitute.

They take what is holy and make it profane.

The Roman Catholic whore church never knew Yeshua. They always served Nimrod/Baal and just turned their pagan dates in honor of the Baal into bs fake ones for Yeshua.

They are all straight as a circle. It's a catamite factory to Baal. It has always been a gay pope fest.
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Paul VI and Aldo Moro:


On 16 March 1978, former Italian prime minister Aldo Moro—a friend of Paul VI's from his FUCI student days—was kidnapped by a far-left Italian terrorist group known as the Red Brigades.
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I remember the whole story with the Red Brigades.

Popes I remember

Pius XII. I was a small kid but I remember him.
He was ultra-conservative.

John XXIII
He was Pope only 4 years. He looked like a nice man.

Paul VI
He was Pope 15+ years.... ermmm

John Paul I Albino Luciani
The Pope with a smile. He always smiled.
He was Pope only 33 days I think they murdered him.

John Paul II Karol Wojtyla the Polish Pope, author, playwright, swimmer, skier... The most popular
He was pope 26+ years

Benedict XVI Joseph Ratzinger the Theologian
He resigned.
He was Pope 7+ years

Francis FRANCISCVS Jorge Mario Bergoglio
Age 87 Jesuit
He is Pope 10+ years
Time out

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Paul VI and Aldo Moro:


On 16 March 1978, former Italian prime minister Aldo Moro—a friend of Paul VI's from his FUCI student days—was kidnapped by a far-left Italian terrorist group known as the Red Brigades.
 Quoting: Bob from Chimdale


I remember the whole story with the Red Brigades.

Popes I remember

Pius XII. I was a small kid but I remember him.
He was ultra-conservative.

John XXIII
He was Pope only 4 years. He looked like a nice man.

Paul VI
He was Pope 15+ years.... ermmm

John Paul I Albino Luciani
The Pope with a smile. He always smiled.
He was Pope only 33 days I think they murdered him.

John Paul II Karol Wojtyla the Polish Pope, author, playwright, swimmer, skier... The most popular
He was pope 26+ years

Benedict XVI Joseph Ratzinger the Theologian
He resigned.
He was Pope 7+ years

Francis FRANCISCVS Jorge Mario Bergoglio
Age 87 Jesuit
He is Pope 10+ years
Time out

tomato
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I agree about Luciani.


Murdered,I think.

I even wondered about that as a twelve or thirteen year old kid at the time.
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And connections to the gay mafia in the Vatican, the black nobility and Aldo Moro.


Interesting history.


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In 1976 Paul VI became the first pontiff in the modern era to deny the accusation of homosexuality. On 29 December 1975, the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a document entitled Persona Humana: Declaration on Certain Questions concerning Sexual Ethics, that reaffirmed church teaching that pre- or extramarital sex, homosexual activity, and masturbation are sinful acts.[152][153] In response, Roger Peyrefitte, who had already written in two of his books that Paul VI had a longtime homosexual relationship, repeated his charges in a magazine interview with a French gay magazine that, when reprinted in Italian, brought the rumours to a wider public and caused an uproar. He said that the Pope was a hypocrite who had a longtime sexual relationship with an actor.[154][155][156] Widespread rumours identified the actor as Paolo Carlini,[157] who had a small part in the Audrey Hepburn film Roman Holiday (1953). In a brief address to a crowd of approximately 20,000 in St Peter's Square on 18 April, Paul VI called the charges "horrible and slanderous insinuations" and appealed for prayers on his behalf. Special prayers for the Pope were said in all Italian Catholic churches in "a day of consolation".[155][157][e] The charges have resurfaced periodically. In 1994, Franco Bellegrandi, a former Vatican honour chamberlain and correspondent for the Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, alleged that Paul VI had been blackmailed and had promoted other gay men to positions of power within the Vatican.[159] In 2006, the newspaper L'Espresso reported that the private papers of police commander General Giorgio Manes accepted the blackmail story as true, and that they claimed Italian Prime Minister Aldo Moro had been asked to help.[157][160]


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There used to be a Frontline called Secrets of the Vatican, but it has been buried.

The Vatican has been overtaken by satanists.
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The Roman empire didn't fall. It became the church.

The Vatican isn't at all what people think it is.
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There are no more popes. Most just don’t know it yet.
Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.
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Every Pope has ALWAYS been gay. One look at the so called holy religious art and a blooming idiot would know that is all porn done by gay artists . For crying out loud…Michelangelo has clearly depicted naked men French kissing each other all over the Sistine chapel ceiling and you don’t KNOW what all those unmarried men are doing in there? The fact is you DO know and the fact that you remain in the Vatican system means you hate Jesus Christ of the Bible.





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