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After some study, I have found evidence that what Jesus did on the cross nullified the animal sacrifice and need for a physical temple here on earth for the matters of such, for all time, even that pertaining to Ezekiel's vision.

Ezekiel's vision is based upon Old Covenant practices, pertaining only too ancient Israel and his vision while accurate at the time is a failed prophecy.

Why? because God sent His Son Jesus as the sacrifice instead. God said the animal sacrifices didn't please Him, because by doing them, sin kept getting recalled in His sight by matter of the ceremonies pertaining to them and Israels continual stumbling at it, which at that time was law.

At the time of the vision. Those practices were still in effect. However, scripture clearly tells us that the blood of animals can never take away sin, not being perfect as pertaining to man.

Jesus is perfect and it is His blood that did away with this once and for all.

Animals are without reason, they are simply beasts. Humanity on the other hand has the ability to reason and are above animals in this capacity. The blood of Jesus therefore is better than that of animals, because Jesus gave His blood consciously to that end while animals can't and don't.

Jesus confounded the Ezekiel prophecy and destroyed the earthly temple and the things pertaining to it, writing the law in the mind and heart for all men instead.

It is through His (Christ's) sending of the Holy Spirit that these now abide, not in physical things.

There will be no rebuilt temple or sacrifice and if there should be, it isn't of God, but of men who fail to recognize that Jesus confounded these things to bring a better and lasting Covenant to all men, not just those who Ezekiel spoke to and about in His vision.

The scripture says there is no one who is Righteous, no, not one, except the only begotten Son of God, Jesus.

Israel couldn't follow the Old Covenant. They kept breaking it. It wasn't God that broke it.

Because they broke it, it is they that necessitated the Change and why God saw fit to bring a New Covenant using His own Son, rather than through the sacrifice of animals.

What Christ has replaced can never be re-instituted, and never will be, because His perfection can never be replicated by continuing in imperfect things.

God sent Jesus to bring His love to the world.

Another word for love is Charity.

Christ in Ezekiel is the same Christ that came and died on the Cross.

However, the same people ministering to Christ in the vision also failed and are now accounted the same as the ones who killed Him.

All of them were looking to what the vision said would occur based upon the Old Covenant instead of the will of God in implementing the New One in this regard. None of them stood up on His behalf when He was taken to the stake. Not even Peter, His own disciple. Which is why Jesus says the following;

John 18:36

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”

God had intended for this vision given to Ezekiel to be the course of action. God changed it, because the people broke it. God didn't break it, they did. Once broken, God made other plans and Sent His own Son, Jesus to fulfill His purpose in another manner, rather than by sacrificing animals and beasts, which Jesus did perfectly, where all of Israel kept stumbling.

Jesus is the stumbling block. It is why Ezekiel's vision is a failed prophecy.

Verse 8 below tells us that prophecies will fail because of what Jesus did and verse 10 tells us why.


1 Corinthians
Chapter 13

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

So thank you for bringing this up that Ezekiel did have a vision, but that God sent Jesus and as a result, Ezekiel's vision has come to no effect through the blood of Christ as the scriptures bear out.

Will Christ join man on earth for the Millennial reign? I believe so, but there won't be the animal sacrifices, nor will there be another temple dedicated to such and to say that there will, is to reject Christ and the reason for which He came, died and rose again.

Jesus is High Priest forever according to the similitude of the righteousness ascribed in scripture pertaining to the Zadok priests in antiquity and to Melchizedek, whom Abraham paid tithe. Of men scripture says the following;

Romans 3:23
King James Version

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

However, where men have failed, Christ has prevailed, once for all. Jesus is now the only living being who lived according to the perfect will of God. No other man can say this. All have fallen short except Jesus, God's Son and by and through Him are all sins and the ceremonies pertaining to them removed from the world.

1 John 2
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2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
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OP..their have been many red heifers now
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Jews look for two males...messiah ben joseph and messiah ben david....I don't see anywhere they are looking for a female...you got some links?
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Can't be bothered but the bible says it is a female.

In V for Vendetta, Steven Frys character laughs on the phone and says, "A heifer getting crucified? Very funny, you'll have to rewrite it."

That wasn't just a random line.
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 Quoting: Mad Kelly


So you base your findings on the movie "v for vendetta"?
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No. I told you original religions symbolized the goddess as a cow.

Egyptian and Veda's both had goddesses symbolized as cows. Hathor was a red heifer.

The goddess was suppressed. That's why there's suddenly a male savior in the bible.
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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered



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It's not a cow. There are millions of red heifers. It is symbolic for,the repair of the failed Adam and Eve
Which will be redone..as woman ever since have been mens slaves.
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zero fucks were given about the color of a cow.
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Can't be bothered but the bible says it is a female.

In V for Vendetta, Steven Frys character laughs on the phone and says, "A heifer getting crucified? Very funny, you'll have to rewrite it."

That wasn't just a random line.
.
 Quoting: Mad Kelly


So you base your findings on the movie "v for vendetta"?
 Quoting: waterman


No. I told you original religions symbolized the goddess as a cow.

Egyptian and Veda's both had goddesses symbolized as cows. Hathor was a red heifer.

The goddess was suppressed. That's why there's suddenly a male savior in the bible.
.
 Quoting: Mad Kelly


The bible says God brings judgement on all the Gods of Egypt...might not wanna try to be something God brings judgement on.

Exodus 12:12:
For on this same night I will go through Egypt, striking down every firstborn in the land, human being and beast alike, and executing judgment on all the gods of Egypt—I, the LORD!
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God bringing Judgement, striking down every first born, sounds more like very human notions
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After some study, I have found evidence that what Jesus did on the cross nullified the animal sacrifice and need for a physical temple here on earth for the matters of such, for all time, even that pertaining to Ezekiel's vision.

Ezekiel's vision is based upon Old Covenant practices, pertaining only too ancient Israel and his vision while accurate at the time is a failed prophecy.

Why? because God sent His Son Jesus as the sacrifice instead. God said the animal sacrifices didn't please Him, because by doing them, sin kept getting recalled in His sight by matter of the ceremonies pertaining to them and Israels continual stumbling at it, which at that time was law.

At the time of the vision. Those practices were still in effect. However, scripture clearly tells us that the blood of animals can never take away sin, not being perfect as pertaining to man.

Jesus is perfect and it is His blood that did away with this once and for all.

Animals are without reason, they are simply beasts. Humanity on the other hand has the ability to reason and are above animals in this capacity. The blood of Jesus therefore is better than that of animals, because Jesus gave His blood consciously to that end while animals can't and don't.

Jesus confounded the Ezekiel prophecy and destroyed the earthly temple and the things pertaining to it, writing the law in the mind and heart for all men instead.

It is through His (Christ's) sending of the Holy Spirit that these now abide, not in physical things.

There will be no rebuilt temple or sacrifice and if there should be, it isn't of God, but of men who fail to recognize that Jesus confounded these things to bring a better and lasting Covenant to all men, not just those who Ezekiel spoke to and about in His vision.

The scripture says there is no one who is Righteous, no, not one, except the only begotten Son of God, Jesus.

Israel couldn't follow the Old Covenant. They kept breaking it. It wasn't God that broke it.

Because they broke it, it is they that necessitated the Change and why God saw fit to bring a New Covenant using His own Son, rather than through the sacrifice of animals.

What Christ has replaced can never be re-instituted, and never will be, because His perfection can never be replicated by continuing in imperfect things.

God sent Jesus to bring His love to the world.

Another word for love is Charity.

Christ in Ezekiel is the same Christ that came and died on the Cross.

However, the same people ministering to Christ in the vision also failed and are now accounted the same as the ones who killed Him.

All of them were looking to what the vision said would occur based upon the Old Covenant instead of the will of God in implementing the New One in this regard. None of them stood up on His behalf when He was taken to the stake. Not even Peter, His own disciple. Which is why Jesus says the following;

John 18:36

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”

God had intended for this vision given to Ezekiel to be the course of action. God changed it, because the people broke it. God didn't break it, they did. Once broken, God made other plans and Sent His own Son, Jesus to fulfill His purpose in another manner, rather than by sacrificing animals and beasts, which Jesus did perfectly, where all of Israel kept stumbling.

Jesus is the stumbling block. It is why Ezekiel's vision is a failed prophecy.

Verse 8 below tells us that prophecies will fail because of what Jesus did and verse 10 tells us why.


1 Corinthians
Chapter 13

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

So thank you for bringing this up that Ezekiel did have a vision, but that God sent Jesus and as a result, Ezekiel's vision has come to no effect through the blood of Christ as the scriptures bear out.

Will Christ join man on earth for the Millennial reign? I believe so, but there won't be the animal sacrifices, nor will there be another temple dedicated to such and to say that there will, is to reject Christ and the reason for which He came, died and rose again.

Jesus is High Priest forever according to the similitude of the righteousness ascribed in scripture pertaining to the Zadok priests in antiquity and to Melchizedek, whom Abraham paid tithe. Of men scripture says the following;

Romans 3:23
King James Version

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

However, where men have failed, Christ has prevailed, once for all. Jesus is now the only living being who lived according to the perfect will of God. No other man can say this. All have fallen short except Jesus, God's Son and by and through Him are all sins and the ceremonies pertaining to them removed from the world.

1 John 2
King James Version

2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Don’t be so quick to make Ezekiel a false prophet. These last 2000 years have been the testing of the gentiles faith in what Jesus did on the cross. Was Jesus on earth where everybody could see him during these last 2000 years? No as it would have destroyed the faith factor of believing without seeing.

If the millennium the next 1000 years is the time of testing for the Jews do you think Jesus and the saints are going to be dwelling on earth where sin is still happening? No of course not for one it again would destroy the faith in Jesus factor for the Jews and you would introduce sin into the melchekzedek heavenly priesthood.

So you set up two anointed on earth and set up a levitic priesthood where the law is in effect for holiness. You combine it with the New Testament covenant for salvation and you keep the Jews holy and Jesus gives them the New Testament covenant for salvation

The animal sacrifice covers sin… Jesus removes sin….so the animal sacrifice covering is for holiness the Jesus sacrifice is for salvation
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Rat lovers be cursed!
Its Jesus Christ Not jewsus christ.
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Rat lovers be cursed!
Its Jesus Christ Not jewsus christ.
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Jesus is a jew
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Rat lovers be cursed!
Its Jesus Christ Not jewsus christ.
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Jesus is a jew
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Nope
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Pure bullshit from the fake jews, those people are no israelites, nor true jews, but an evil and supremacist cult from europe.
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Oh, ffs they are looking for a female human.

Red heifer is code for a certain female.
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Why would jews be looking for a female?
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The Adam and eve mission failed.
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Pure bullshit from the fake jews, those people are no israelites, nor true jews, but an evil and supremacist cult from europe.
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They are not HEBREW.they are the fallen Luciferians
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After some study, I have found evidence that what Jesus did on the cross nullified the animal sacrifice and need for a physical temple here on earth for the matters of such, for all time, even that pertaining to Ezekiel's vision.

Ezekiel's vision is based upon Old Covenant practices, pertaining only too ancient Israel and his vision while accurate at the time is a failed prophecy.

Why? because God sent His Son Jesus as the sacrifice instead. God said the animal sacrifices didn't please Him, because by doing them, sin kept getting recalled in His sight by matter of the ceremonies pertaining to them and Israels continual stumbling at it, which at that time was law.

At the time of the vision. Those practices were still in effect. However, scripture clearly tells us that the blood of animals can never take away sin, not being perfect as pertaining to man.

Jesus is perfect and it is His blood that did away with this once and for all.

Animals are without reason, they are simply beasts. Humanity on the other hand has the ability to reason and are above animals in this capacity. The blood of Jesus therefore is better than that of animals, because Jesus gave His blood consciously to that end while animals can't and don't.

Jesus confounded the Ezekiel prophecy and destroyed the earthly temple and the things pertaining to it, writing the law in the mind and heart for all men instead.

It is through His (Christ's) sending of the Holy Spirit that these now abide, not in physical things.

There will be no rebuilt temple or sacrifice and if there should be, it isn't of God, but of men who fail to recognize that Jesus confounded these things to bring a better and lasting Covenant to all men, not just those who Ezekiel spoke to and about in His vision.

The scripture says there is no one who is Righteous, no, not one, except the only begotten Son of God, Jesus.

Israel couldn't follow the Old Covenant. They kept breaking it. It wasn't God that broke it.

Because they broke it, it is they that necessitated the Change and why God saw fit to bring a New Covenant using His own Son, rather than through the sacrifice of animals.

What Christ has replaced can never be re-instituted, and never will be, because His perfection can never be replicated by continuing in imperfect things.

God sent Jesus to bring His love to the world.

Another word for love is Charity.

Christ in Ezekiel is the same Christ that came and died on the Cross.

However, the same people ministering to Christ in the vision also failed and are now accounted the same as the ones who killed Him.

All of them were looking to what the vision said would occur based upon the Old Covenant instead of the will of God in implementing the New One in this regard. None of them stood up on His behalf when He was taken to the stake. Not even Peter, His own disciple. Which is why Jesus says the following;

John 18:36

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”

God had intended for this vision given to Ezekiel to be the course of action. God changed it, because the people broke it. God didn't break it, they did. Once broken, God made other plans and Sent His own Son, Jesus to fulfill His purpose in another manner, rather than by sacrificing animals and beasts, which Jesus did perfectly, where all of Israel kept stumbling.

Jesus is the stumbling block. It is why Ezekiel's vision is a failed prophecy.

Verse 8 below tells us that prophecies will fail because of what Jesus did and verse 10 tells us why.


1 Corinthians
Chapter 13

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

So thank you for bringing this up that Ezekiel did have a vision, but that God sent Jesus and as a result, Ezekiel's vision has come to no effect through the blood of Christ as the scriptures bear out.

Will Christ join man on earth for the Millennial reign? I believe so, but there won't be the animal sacrifices, nor will there be another temple dedicated to such and to say that there will, is to reject Christ and the reason for which He came, died and rose again.

Jesus is High Priest forever according to the similitude of the righteousness ascribed in scripture pertaining to the Zadok priests in antiquity and to Melchizedek, whom Abraham paid tithe. Of men scripture says the following;

Romans 3:23
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23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

However, where men have failed, Christ has prevailed, once for all. Jesus is now the only living being who lived according to the perfect will of God. No other man can say this. All have fallen short except Jesus, God's Son and by and through Him are all sins and the ceremonies pertaining to them removed from the world.

1 John 2
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2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Don’t be so quick to make Ezekiel a false prophet. These last 2000 years have been the testing of the gentiles faith in what Jesus did on the cross. Was Jesus on earth where everybody could see him during these last 2000 years? No as it would have destroyed the faith factor of believing without seeing.

If the millennium the next 1000 years is the time of testing for the Jews do you think Jesus and the saints are going to be dwelling on earth where sin is still happening? No of course not for one it again would destroy the faith in Jesus factor for the Jews and you would introduce sin into the melchekzedek heavenly priesthood.

So you set up two anointed on earth and set up a levitic priesthood where the law is in effect for holiness. You combine it with the New Testament covenant for salvation and you keep the Jews holy and Jesus gives them the New Testament covenant for salvation

The animal sacrifice covers sin… Jesus removes sin….so the animal sacrifice covering is for holiness the Jesus sacrifice is for salvation
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I never said Ezekiel was/is a false prophet.

If you go back and read what I shared, you will not see me say that.


What I said is that during time he gave this prophecy it was valid, however because the children of Israel kept falling into sin, God, Himself changed what Ezekial shared and was shown in that prophecy, by sending His Own son, Jesus.

Jesus, according to God's will, was sent to do what Israel, would not and could not, thus making Ezekiel's prophecy to no effect.

Ezekial's prophecy was true at the time given. The prophecy is no longer valid however, because God sent His Son as a better Sacrifice and Priest.

At the time Ezekiel gave that prophecy, the law was to offer animal sacrifice. Ezekiel was not falsely prophesying, but what he was shown is never to come about.

Ezekiel is NOT a false prophet, the prophecy he gave only failed, because God saw the necessity to change it because men failed in their commitment to abide by it.

The scriptures bear this out as being true and it is stated in the following book to attest to this;

Hebrews 7
Melchizedek and Abraham

(Genesis 14:17-24)

1For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; 2To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace; 3Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

4Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils. 5And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham: 6But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises. 7And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better. 8And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth. 9And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. 10For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.

Jesus a Priest Like Melchizedek

11If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 13For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. 14For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. 15And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 16Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life.

17For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

18For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. 19For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. 20And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:

21(For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:)

22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

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13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

16 For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

18 Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.


19 For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,

20 Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.

21 Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.

22 And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.

23 It was therefore necessary that the patterns of things in the heavens should be purified with these; but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these.

24 For Christ is not entered into the holy places made with hands, which are the figures of the true; but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us:

25 Nor yet that he should offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with blood of others;

26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.

27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.

10 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins.

3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year.

4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.

5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.

7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.

8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law;

9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second.

10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.


15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.

18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered


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You are aware that animal sacrifice is done away with right?


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They didn't get the memo. They rejected the true Messiah. Then the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. So now they prepare for the false messiah.
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Rabbi 1 to Rabbi 2 "get some red spray paint. The Goiyum will never know the difference".
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Rabbi 1 to Rabbi 2 "get some red spray paint. The Goiyum will never know the difference".
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They bend the rules on everything else, so why not dye the heifer red?

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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered


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You are aware that animal sacrifice is done away with right?


 Quoting: Osmium76


They didn't get the memo. They rejected the true Messiah. Then the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. So now they prepare for the false messiah.
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I am not here to criticize people for their lack of understanding. Instead, I seek to share what the scriptures say on these matters.

Yes, those who seek to keep and practice a dead law are not recognizing Jesus and what He came to do and did.

Those who seek to set up a physical temple *(built by the hands of men) and again initiate animal sacrifice are in fact rejecting Christ.

If they succeed in establishing such a thing again, it will in fact be an abomination to God. *(They take away Jesus's sacrifice so that they might establish their own!!)

It may very well be the abomination spoken of that leads to desolation and scripture seems to correlate to this.

To set such a thing up is ANTI CHRIST in every manner, by matter of definition. It is a blatant rejection of the purpose and intent of why God sent His Son.

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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered


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You are aware that animal sacrifice is done away with right?


 Quoting: Osmium76


They didn't get the memo. They rejected the true Messiah. Then the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. So now they prepare for the false messiah.
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I am not here to criticize people for their lack of understanding. Instead, I seek to share what the scriptures say on these matters.

Yes, those who seek to keep and practice a dead law are not recognizing Jesus and what He came to do and did.

Those who seek to set up a physical temple *(built by the hands of men) and again initiate animal sacrifice are in fact rejecting Christ.

If they succeed in establishing such a thing again, it will in fact be an abomination to God.

It may very well be the abomination spoken of that leads to desolation and scripture seems to correlate to this.

To set such a thing up is ANTI CHRIST in every manner, by matter of definition. It is a blatant rejection of the purpose and intent of why God sent His Son.
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Makes you wonder why so many Christians are pro-Israel, when they are so anti-Christ.
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You are aware that animal sacrifice is done away with right?


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They didn't get the memo. They rejected the true Messiah. Then the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. So now they prepare for the false messiah.
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I am not here to criticize people for their lack of understanding. Instead, I seek to share what the scriptures say on these matters.

Yes, those who seek to keep and practice a dead law are not recognizing Jesus and what He came to do and did.

Those who seek to set up a physical temple *(built by the hands of men) and again initiate animal sacrifice are in fact rejecting Christ.

If they succeed in establishing such a thing again, it will in fact be an abomination to God.

It may very well be the abomination spoken of that leads to desolation and scripture seems to correlate to this.

To set such a thing up is ANTI CHRIST in every manner, by matter of definition. It is a blatant rejection of the purpose and intent of why God sent His Son.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Makes you wonder why so many Christians are pro-Israel, when they are so anti-Christ.
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It’s a catch 21. The Christians can see Jesus as King and High Priest and themselves as kings and priests which is a heavenly melchekzedek priesthood kingdom

The Jews can only see the 2 earthly anointed David the earthly king and a second priestly anointed to rule on earth as Ezekiel tells us the earth is a levitic priesthood which means the king can’t be high priest therefore needing 2 anointed to run that kingly/priestly earthly kingdom.

So Christian’s see the heavenly messiah Jesus and the Jews can see the 2 earthly anointed so each group thinks the other group is wrong when in reality they are both correct they are just wrong on where the two kingdoms are. Jesus’ melchekzedek priesthood will be in heaven. The Jews 2 anointed will be on earth during the millennium that Jews can believe in Jesus by faith


The thing is Satan and the false prophet can see the earthly position of a king and high priest has an opening and they want the people to choose them instead of the two it is intended for on earth

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What I said is that during time he gave this prophecy it was valid, however because the children of Israel kept falling into sin, God, Himself changed what Ezekial shared and was shown in that prophecy, by sending His Own son, Jesus.
 Quoting: Osmium76

There are verses that basically teach that the building of Ezekiel's Temple was a conditional promise based on whether the Israelites repented or not...

Ezekiel 43:11
"And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them."


Since the Israelites never repented, the plans for Ezekiel's Temple were permanently scrapped. New Jerusalem is 'Plan-B' so to speak.

So technically, if Ezekiel's Temple is built, then that would prove Ezekiel to be a false Prophet. That is to say if my interpretation of the verse above is correct. It may not be.

Maybe there is a loophole or fine print that would allow Ezekiel's Temple to be built after all. Perhaps Waterman is seeing said loophole.

Sadly, there is too much agenda involved in this debate for folks to be rational and logical about it. Things are being emotionally and politically driven now, regardless of what the Bible has to say about it.
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Here's the weirdest part. A lot of people say they don't believe in magic or religion.

But there are a lot of people who support the U.S who supports Israel.

And they are supporting a literal in real life group of wizards attempting a real life summoning ritual.


This is a wild world we live in. We're living in a Dungeons and Dragons reality right now and people aren't even aware of what they are backing lol.
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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered



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Technically, there still hasn't been a qualifying red heifer.

Only God can create the blemish free red heifer as a sign of His divine timing (and blessing)
That's the point, these are other worldly.

God would know when the appointed Red Heifer would be born and available.


However these red heifers have been genetically engineered to be blemish free. An abomination against God, and rebellion against Him and His timing.

Selective breeding has been going on since the beginning of animal husbandry. This is not GMO.

Then if that's not bad enough, they were not even created in Israel but Texas (even though the state is non biblical, they are not meant to be travelling as that is a yoke)

A yoke represents work, not travel.

Then they were given an RFID chip to be able to travel. Which ever way they slice it and say they carefully placed it so it wouldn't be a yoke or burden, it was. Not only that but the chip is a mark of the beast, and another abomination in Gods eyes.

It is my understanding that they were not chipped or tagged. Is there some evidence that you have that shows that they were?

So we have these unfit sacrifices that are antiGod, but will be PERFECT for their anti messiah, and their temple (which can only be brought into being in the New Jerusalem by Yeshua)

All that being said, all that matters is that they believe it and are willing to act in it.
And yes things will still kick off according to their forced inorganic heifers and other idolatrous plans. So we must be ready.

When AC comes to shut down the daily sacrifice is what we need to look out for, the temple being built is not necessarily needed to fulfill scripture of their making.

There are parallel scriptures which is part of the deception that we as believers and obeyers of Y'shua must discern.
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What I said is that during time he gave this prophecy it was valid, however because the children of Israel kept falling into sin, God, Himself changed what Ezekial shared and was shown in that prophecy, by sending His Own son, Jesus.
 Quoting: Osmium76

There are verses that basically teach that the building of Ezekiel's Temple was a conditional promise based on whether the Israelites repented or not...

Ezekiel 43:11
"And if they be ashamed of all that they have done, shew them the form of the house, and the fashion thereof, and the goings out thereof, and the comings in thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and all the forms thereof, and all the laws thereof: and write it in their sight, that they may keep the whole form thereof, and all the ordinances thereof, and do them."


Since the Israelites never repented, the plans for Ezekiel's Temple were permanently scrapped. New Jerusalem is 'Plan-B' so to speak.

So technically, if Ezekiel's Temple is built, then that would prove Ezekiel to be a false Prophet. That is to say if my interpretation of the verse above is correct. It may not be.

Maybe there is a loophole or fine print that would allow Ezekiel's Temple to be built after all. Perhaps Waterman is seeing said loophole.

Sadly, there is too much agenda involved in this debate for folks to be rational and logical about it. Things are being emotionally and politically driven now, regardless of what the Bible has to say about it.
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That first statement I bolded, seems contradictory in terms of the rest of your post, but maybe I just am not understanding your intent.

Ezekiel isn't a false prophet. He gave a sound prophecy based upon the law at that time.

However, If a temple is constructed here on earth again, by men, God won't sit in it.

When David sought to build a temple for God, see what God told him; 2 Samuel Chapter 7 [link to www.kingjamesbibleonline.org (secure)]

When Solomon built the temple, see what God told him; 1 Kings 9:1-9 [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]

When Solomon turned from God, see what God says; 1 Kings 11 [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]

Then we get a reoccurring theme with all of the kings. Most all of them do evil in the sight of the lord.

Some of the Kings take action to do good in part, but almost always they fall short as a whole with few exception.

For example, Josiah, who began to rule at age 8 was read a book of the law that was found in the temple when he was 18. God dealt kindly with him but he is told the curse that King Solomon brought would continue. Look at what he is told; 2 Kings 22 [link to www.biblegateway.com (secure)]

Going back to what God told David; that he would always have a seed to sit on the throne, We then come to Jesus and the scripture tells us that Jesus IS the seed of David and how this is the case. See; Matthew 1 and Luke 3

This also is stated in 2 Timothy 2:8 as shown below.

The last part of what you say which I also set in bold is also shared in this scripture in verse 13- 19 and you are correct. We are called to be honorable in our walk and striving against the word or with men who are vain in their imaginings isn't going to work for the good. It just brings contentions which are to be avoided. It's easy to get caught up in such things and we need to be reminded that is not living peaceably. It's inviting unnecessary strife.

If a good message that is true is given and someone refuses to heed it, it isn't our responsibility to turn those souls about. God will see fit to call whom He pleases. Others He will allow to pass by.

Preaching the Gospel as given is sufficient enough for our role as long as it conforms to scripture. We might correct a fellow believer if they err, as long as and if the correction is sound. If they listen we have won a brother and they refuse to listen, let them go their way. God will sort them out in due time, for good or bad.

2 Timothy 2
King James Version

2 Thou therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.

2 And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

3 Thou therefore endure hardness, as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.

4 No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life; that he may please him who hath chosen him to be a soldier.

5 And if a man also strive for masteries, yet is he not crowned, except he strive lawfully.

6 The husbandman that laboureth must be first partaker of the fruits.

7 Consider what I say; and the Lord give thee understanding in all things.

8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:

9 Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound.

10 Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

11 It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:

12 If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:

13 If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.

14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers.

15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.

17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus;

18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some.

19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

20 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.

21 If a man therefore purge himself from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, sanctified, and meet for the master's use, and prepared unto every good work.

22 Flee also youthful lusts: but follow righteousness, faith, charity, peace, with them that call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

23 But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes.

24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

God knows who His flocks are and Jesus tells us there are two.

One redeemed and the other awaits His return.
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Ecclesiastes 12:13 “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”

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