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Red Heifer Prophecy information and possible fulfillment on passover 2024

 
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This is a key event to mark the arrival of the antichrist.
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They didn't get the memo. They rejected the true Messiah. Then the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. So now they prepare for the false messiah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78969995


I am not here to criticize people for their lack of understanding. Instead, I seek to share what the scriptures say on these matters.

Yes, those who seek to keep and practice a dead law are not recognizing Jesus and what He came to do and did.

Those who seek to set up a physical temple *(built by the hands of men) and again initiate animal sacrifice are in fact rejecting Christ.

If they succeed in establishing such a thing again, it will in fact be an abomination to God.

It may very well be the abomination spoken of that leads to desolation and scripture seems to correlate to this.

To set such a thing up is ANTI CHRIST in every manner, by matter of definition. It is a blatant rejection of the purpose and intent of why God sent His Son.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Makes you wonder why so many Christians are pro-Israel, when they are so anti-Christ.
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It’s a catch 21. The Christians can see Jesus as King and High Priest and themselves as kings and priests which is a heavenly melchekzedek priesthood kingdom

The Jews can only see the 2 earthly anointed David the earthly king and a second priestly anointed to rule on earth as Ezekiel tells us the earth is a levitic priesthood which means the king can’t be high priest therefore needing 2 anointed to run that kingly/priestly earthly kingdom.

So Christian’s see the heavenly messiah Jesus and the Jews can see the 2 earthly anointed so each group thinks the other group is wrong when in reality they are both correct they are just wrong on where the two kingdoms are. Jesus’ melchekzedek priesthood will be in heaven. The Jews 2 anointed will be on earth during the millennium that Jews can believe in Jesus by faith


The thing is Satan and the false prophet can see the earthly position of a king and high priest has an opening and they want the people to choose them instead of the two it is intended for on earth
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This is simply untrue.
Jesus has been made lord and messiah over all Israel. King and priest.
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After some study, I have found evidence that what Jesus did on the cross nullified the animal sacrifice and need for a physical temple here on earth for the matters of such, for all time, even that pertaining to Ezekiel's vision.

Ezekiel's vision is based upon Old Covenant practices, pertaining only too ancient Israel and his vision while accurate at the time is a failed prophecy.

Why? because God sent His Son Jesus as the sacrifice instead. God said the animal sacrifices didn't please Him, because by doing them, sin kept getting recalled in His sight by matter of the ceremonies pertaining to them and Israels continual stumbling at it, which at that time was law.

At the time of the vision. Those practices were still in effect. However, scripture clearly tells us that the blood of animals can never take away sin, not being perfect as pertaining to man.

Jesus is perfect and it is His blood that did away with this once and for all.

Animals are without reason, they are simply beasts. Humanity on the other hand has the ability to reason and are above animals in this capacity. The blood of Jesus therefore is better than that of animals, because Jesus gave His blood consciously to that end while animals can't and don't.

Jesus confounded the Ezekiel prophecy and destroyed the earthly temple and the things pertaining to it, writing the law in the mind and heart for all men instead.

It is through His (Christ's) sending of the Holy Spirit that these now abide, not in physical things.

There will be no rebuilt temple or sacrifice and if there should be, it isn't of God, but of men who fail to recognize that Jesus confounded these things to bring a better and lasting Covenant to all men, not just those who Ezekiel spoke to and about in His vision.

The scripture says there is no one who is Righteous, no, not one, except the only begotten Son of God, Jesus.

Israel couldn't follow the Old Covenant. They kept breaking it. It wasn't God that broke it.

Because they broke it, it is they that necessitated the Change and why God saw fit to bring a New Covenant using His own Son, rather than through the sacrifice of animals.

What Christ has replaced can never be re-instituted, and never will be, because His perfection can never be replicated by continuing in imperfect things.

God sent Jesus to bring His love to the world.

Another word for love is Charity.

Christ in Ezekiel is the same Christ that came and died on the Cross.

However, the same people ministering to Christ in the vision also failed and are now accounted the same as the ones who killed Him.

All of them were looking to what the vision said would occur based upon the Old Covenant instead of the will of God in implementing the New One in this regard. None of them stood up on His behalf when He was taken to the stake. Not even Peter, His own disciple. Which is why Jesus says the following;

John 18:36

“Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.”

God had intended for this vision given to Ezekiel to be the course of action. God changed it, because the people broke it. God didn't break it, they did. Once broken, God made other plans and Sent His own Son, Jesus to fulfill His purpose in another manner, rather than by sacrificing animals and beasts, which Jesus did perfectly, where all of Israel kept stumbling.

Jesus is the stumbling block. It is why Ezekiel's vision is a failed prophecy.

Verse 8 below tells us that prophecies will fail because of what Jesus did and verse 10 tells us why.


1 Corinthians
Chapter 13

1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

4 Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,

5 Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;

6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

7 Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.

12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

13 And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.

So thank you for bringing this up that Ezekiel did have a vision, but that God sent Jesus and as a result, Ezekiel's vision has come to no effect through the blood of Christ as the scriptures bear out.

Will Christ join man on earth for the Millennial reign? I believe so, but there won't be the animal sacrifices, nor will there be another temple dedicated to such and to say that there will, is to reject Christ and the reason for which He came, died and rose again.

Jesus is High Priest forever according to the similitude of the righteousness ascribed in scripture pertaining to the Zadok priests in antiquity and to Melchizedek, whom Abraham paid tithe. Of men scripture says the following;

Romans 3:23
King James Version

23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

However, where men have failed, Christ has prevailed, once for all. Jesus is now the only living being who lived according to the perfect will of God. No other man can say this. All have fallen short except Jesus, God's Son and by and through Him are all sins and the ceremonies pertaining to them removed from the world.

1 John 2
King James Version

2 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

6 He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

7 Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

8 Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

10 He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

13 I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

14 I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

17 And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.

20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.

21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.

22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.

25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.

26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Don’t be so quick to make Ezekiel a false prophet. These last 2000 years have been the testing of the gentiles faith in what Jesus did on the cross. Was Jesus on earth where everybody could see him during these last 2000 years? No as it would have destroyed the faith factor of believing without seeing.

If the millennium the next 1000 years is the time of testing for the Jews do you think Jesus and the saints are going to be dwelling on earth where sin is still happening? No of course not for one it again would destroy the faith in Jesus factor for the Jews and you would introduce sin into the melchekzedek heavenly priesthood.

So you set up two anointed on earth and set up a levitic priesthood where the law is in effect for holiness. You combine it with the New Testament covenant for salvation and you keep the Jews holy and Jesus gives them the New Testament covenant for salvation

The animal sacrifice covers sin… Jesus removes sin….so the animal sacrifice covering is for holiness the Jesus sacrifice is for salvation
 Quoting: waterman


So much blasphemy in one post.
The law’s purpose is not to make a man holy.
Why are you here trying to say otherwise?

The law IS NOT OF FAITH.
His righteous will live by faith.
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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered


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You are aware that animal sacrifice is done away with right?


 Quoting: Osmium76


They didn't get the memo. They rejected the true Messiah. Then the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. So now they prepare for the false messiah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78969995


I am not here to criticize people for their lack of understanding. Instead, I seek to share what the scriptures say on these matters.

Yes, those who seek to keep and practice a dead law are not recognizing Jesus and what He came to do and did.

Those who seek to set up a physical temple *(built by the hands of men) and again initiate animal sacrifice are in fact rejecting Christ.

If they succeed in establishing such a thing again, it will in fact be an abomination to God. *(They take away Jesus's sacrifice so that they might establish their own!!)

It may very well be the abomination spoken of that leads to desolation and scripture seems to correlate to this.

To set such a thing up is ANTI CHRIST in every manner, by matter of definition. It is a blatant rejection of the purpose and intent of why God sent His Son.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Exactly, everything they are doing is AntiGod, Anti-moshiac, complete rebellion against God and idolatrous to other gods of their own making.

Because their father is the father of lies, and they are of satan.

That is why God has controversy against them, and judges them.

Only those who repent for rejecting Y'shua will be in His remnant.

Those standing with Israel right now need to put down the Schofield bible and go to God direct, or they become part of that judgement.
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You are aware that animal sacrifice is done away with right?


 Quoting: Osmium76


They didn't get the memo. They rejected the true Messiah. Then the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. So now they prepare for the false messiah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78969995


I am not here to criticize people for their lack of understanding. Instead, I seek to share what the scriptures say on these matters.

Yes, those who seek to keep and practice a dead law are not recognizing Jesus and what He came to do and did.

Those who seek to set up a physical temple *(built by the hands of men) and again initiate animal sacrifice are in fact rejecting Christ.

If they succeed in establishing such a thing again, it will in fact be an abomination to God. *(They take away Jesus's sacrifice so that they might establish their own!!)

It may very well be the abomination spoken of that leads to desolation and scripture seems to correlate to this.

To set such a thing up is ANTI CHRIST in every manner, by matter of definition. It is a blatant rejection of the purpose and intent of why God sent His Son.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Exactly, everything they are doing is AntiGod, Anti-moshiac, complete rebellion against God and idolatrous to other gods of their own making.

Because their father is the father of lies, and they are of satan.

That is why God has controversy against them, and judges them.

Only those who repent for rejecting Y'shua will be in His remnant.

Those standing with Israel right now need to put down the Schofield bible and go to God direct, or they become part of that judgement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6126510



Every dispensation makes a change in what was flawed by the people in the former dispensation

dispension2
dispension1

What is flawed in this 2000 year dispensation of Grace is the people as a whole aren't holy as they just depend on grace for salvation and depend on grace to cover what they want to do.

The people is this dispensation could not follow the law as Satan and his cohorts are on earth and provide too much temptation with the world as it is the temptation is overwhelming with all the sinful things available.

Once Jesus' comes back at the end of the tribulation with the saints they bind Satan and his cohorts for the 1000 year millennium and the swords are turned into plowshares. Then Jesus and the saints return to the heavenly melchelzedek kingdom for the 1000 years. There will be very little sin on earth and that is why people will live to be 1000 years old during the millennium.


Jesus himself said "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Notice heaven and earth are still here during the millennium therefore the law will be combined with the new testament during the millennium...we know this because the ezekiel temple is running and animal sacrifices are happening every days during the millennium....God combines his servant Moses' covenant with his sevants Abrahams' covenant to make one millennial kingdom covenant




THE NEW DISPENSATION:

ABRAHAM IS THE FAITH COVENANT MOSES IS THE LAW COVENANT

God will combine the Old Testament/MOSAICH and the New Tesament/ABRAHAMIC during the millennium...The Law for holiness and the covering of sin by animal sacrifice and the Faith in Jesus/New testament for the salvation and removal of sin through his sacrifice.



What God does for the final dispensation is He raises up king david as king and places the other anointed over the priesthood...when you have 2 anointed it is automatically a levitic priesthood therefore if the levitic priesthood is back in effect the people are under the mosaich covenant which is the Mosaich/law/old testament covenant...this will be for holiness as we see in Romans 7 the law is holy:

Romans 7:
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

This is the mistake the gentiles made, they didn't know which denomination to follow so they created over 33,000 denominations and no one knew which one was correct....when there is just one denomination the Law then everybody knows what is expected and the high priest on earth has a dominion on earth with communication to heaven with the breastplate and the lots the high priests use for communication with heaven.

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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered



 Quoting: waterman


God does not care about animal sacrifices, not after the sacrifice of Jesus. The only sacrifice God cares about after Jesus is your old life. Christians are the only ones that have a sacrifice, a daily one. You think that the daily sacrfice and oblation to be stopped by the antichrist is an animal sacrifice. No. The sacrifice of Christians stops either one of two ways:

1. The renounce Christ at which time they no longer have any sacrifice as they are reprobated.

2. The die for not rejecting Christ at which time, their sacrifice has ended with martyrdom.

The third temple that God is going to raise up is in Ephesians 2 and 4 other places in the new testament. The temple is your mind and soul, not a building.

These errors are among so many about the end times are the reason so many casual Christians will be utterly confused and lost and shown as such to a lost world as the end times start.
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They didn't get the memo. They rejected the true Messiah. Then the Temple was destroyed in 70 AD. So now they prepare for the false messiah.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78969995


I am not here to criticize people for their lack of understanding. Instead, I seek to share what the scriptures say on these matters.

Yes, those who seek to keep and practice a dead law are not recognizing Jesus and what He came to do and did.

Those who seek to set up a physical temple *(built by the hands of men) and again initiate animal sacrifice are in fact rejecting Christ.

If they succeed in establishing such a thing again, it will in fact be an abomination to God. *(They take away Jesus's sacrifice so that they might establish their own!!)

It may very well be the abomination spoken of that leads to desolation and scripture seems to correlate to this.

To set such a thing up is ANTI CHRIST in every manner, by matter of definition. It is a blatant rejection of the purpose and intent of why God sent His Son.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Exactly, everything they are doing is AntiGod, Anti-moshiac, complete rebellion against God and idolatrous to other gods of their own making.

Because their father is the father of lies, and they are of satan.

That is why God has controversy against them, and judges them.

Only those who repent for rejecting Y'shua will be in His remnant.

Those standing with Israel right now need to put down the Schofield bible and go to God direct, or they become part of that judgement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6126510



Every dispensation makes a change in what was flawed by the people in the former dispensation

dispension2
dispension1

What is flawed in this 2000 year dispensation of Grace is the people as a whole aren't holy as they just depend on grace for salvation and depend on grace to cover what they want to do.

The people is this dispensation could not follow the law as Satan and his cohorts are on earth and provide too much temptation with the world as it is the temptation is overwhelming with all the sinful things available.

Once Jesus' comes back at the end of the tribulation with the saints they bind Satan and his cohorts for the 1000 year millennium and the swords are turned into plowshares. Then Jesus and the saints return to the heavenly melchelzedek kingdom for the 1000 years. There will be very little sin on earth and that is why people will live to be 1000 years old during the millennium.


Jesus himself said "For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Notice heaven and earth are still here during the millennium therefore the law will be combined with the new testament during the millennium...we know this because the ezekiel temple is running and animal sacrifices are happening every days during the millennium....God combines his servant Moses' covenant with his sevants Abrahams' covenant to make one millennial kingdom covenant




THE NEW DISPENSATION:

ABRAHAM IS THE FAITH COVENANT MOSES IS THE LAW COVENANT

God will combine the Old Testament/MOSAICH and the New Tesament/ABRAHAMIC during the millennium...The Law for holiness and the covering of sin by animal sacrifice and the Faith in Jesus/New testament for the salvation and removal of sin through his sacrifice.



What God does for the final dispensation is He raises up king david as king and places the other anointed over the priesthood...when you have 2 anointed it is automatically a levitic priesthood therefore if the levitic priesthood is back in effect the people are under the mosaich covenant which is the Mosaich/law/old testament covenant...this will be for holiness as we see in Romans 7 the law is holy:

Romans 7:
12 Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, and just, and good.

This is the mistake the gentiles made, they didn't know which denomination to follow so they created over 33,000 denominations and no one knew which one was correct....when there is just one denomination the Law then everybody knows what is expected and the high priest on earth has a dominion on earth with communication to heaven with the breastplate and the lots the high priests use for communication with heaven.

leftrightkingpri
 Quoting: waterman


I shared scripture that says God is not pleased with animal sacrifice. That Jesus came to do away with it permanently.

Did you miss it? Or are you willfully rejecting the reason for which Jesus came and died and rose again?

Hebrews 9:13-10:18
King James Version

13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?


15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

Do you think God is a liar? There will be no more animal sacrifice that God finds worthy. Nor can man build Him a temple in which He will dwell.


Isaiah
Chapter 66

1 Thus saith the LORD, The heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool: where is the house that ye build unto me? and where is the place of my rest?

2 For all those things hath mine hand made, and all those things have been, saith the LORD: but to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.

3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

4 I also will choose their delusions, and will bring their fears upon them; because when I called, none did answer; when I spake, they did not hear: but they did evil before mine eyes, and chose that in which I delighted not.

5 Hear the word of the LORD, ye that tremble at his word; Your brethren that hated you, that cast you out for my name's sake, said, Let the LORD be glorified: but he shall appear to your joy, and they shall be ashamed.


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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered



 Quoting: waterman


God does not care about animal sacrifices, not after the sacrifice of Jesus. The only sacrifice God cares about after Jesus is your old life. Christians are the only ones that have a sacrifice, a daily one. You think that the daily sacrfice and oblation to be stopped by the antichrist is an animal sacrifice. No. The sacrifice of Christians stops either one of two ways:

1. The renounce Christ at which time they no longer have any sacrifice as they are reprobated.

2. The die for not rejecting Christ at which time, their sacrifice has ended with martyrdom.

The third temple that God is going to raise up is in Ephesians 2 and 4 other places in the new testament. The temple is your mind and soul, not a building.

These errors are among so many about the end times are the reason so many casual Christians will be utterly confused and lost and shown as such to a lost world as the end times start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222509


If you read Ezekiel specifically the 40's chapters you will see the ezekiel temple is built and fully functioning with daily animal sacrifcies being done. Ezekiel is describing what will be happening during the 1000 year millennium

When Jesus said the law will not be done away with until heaven and earth pass away, he wasn't just saying that for no reason....the last 2000 years God has mainly dealt with the gentiles and gave them the new testament covenant for their grafting into the blessings and salvation

God deals with the Jews during the millennium in a different way than he did in this dispensation....God combines the two covenants...the law/old testament and the faith/new testament to bring forth holiness and salvation. The law takes nothing away from Jesus' salvation fulfillment and Jesus' salvation takes nothing away from the holiness of the law...so Jesus binds satan and his cohorts for the duration of the 1000 year millennium and makes it possible for the jews to follow the law for holiness and follow the new testament for salvation...best of both covenants

The new testament is Mercy the old testament is truth the new testament is peace the old testament is righteousness and God has them kiss in the next covenant during the millennium as he combines the two covenants of the old and the new.

Psalm 85:10:
10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.

It was customary for jews to kiss the scriptures as a form of reverence:

Jesus kisses the scriptures showing Truth kissing Righteousness




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Although kissing holy objects is not a religious obligation, it is a widespread practice among Jews. In the Torah, a kiss was deemed more than a welcoming. To kiss a holy object displays veneration. This symbolically represents one’s devotion to Judaism and loyalty to God. Examples of kissing holy objects include:

• The two ends of the atarah of the tallit are kissed just before putting on the prayer shawl.
• The tefillin are kissed when taken out and returned to their bag.
• The tzitzit (fringes) are kissed at the end of Baruch she-Amar and during the recitation of the Shema.
• The curtain of the ark (parochet) is kissed before opening and after closing (when the Torah is taken out and then returned).
• The Torah mantle is kissed when it passes by in procession in the synagogue.
• The Torah scroll is kissed before one recites the blessings over it, either with the intermediary of the edge of the tallit or the sash used to tie the scroll together, but never with the bare hand.
• A siddur (prayer book) and Chumash are kissed before putting them away; they also are kissed if accidentally dropped on the floor.
• The mezuzah on the doorpost is kissed when entering or leaving a house.


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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered



 Quoting: waterman


God does not care about animal sacrifices, not after the sacrifice of Jesus. The only sacrifice God cares about after Jesus is your old life. Christians are the only ones that have a sacrifice, a daily one. You think that the daily sacrfice and oblation to be stopped by the antichrist is an animal sacrifice. No. The sacrifice of Christians stops either one of two ways:

1. The renounce Christ at which time they no longer have any sacrifice as they are reprobated.

2. The die for not rejecting Christ at which time, their sacrifice has ended with martyrdom.

The third temple that God is going to raise up is in Ephesians 2 and 4 other places in the new testament. The temple is your mind and soul, not a building.

These errors are among so many about the end times are the reason so many casual Christians will be utterly confused and lost and shown as such to a lost world as the end times start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222509


If you read Ezekiel specifically the 40's chapters you will see the ezekiel temple is built and fully functioning with daily animal sacrifcies being done. Ezekiel is describing what will be happening during the 1000 year millennium

When Jesus said the law will not be done away with until heaven and earth pass away, he wasn't just saying that for no reason....the last 2000 years God has mainly dealt with the gentiles and gave them the new testament covenant for their grafting into the blessings and salvation

God deals with the Jews during the millennium in a different way than he did in this dispensation....God combines the two covenants...the law/old testament and the faith/new testament to bring forth holiness and salvation. The law takes nothing away from Jesus' salvation fulfillment and Jesus' salvation takes nothing away from the holiness of the law...so Jesus binds satan and his cohorts for the duration of the 1000 year millennium and makes it possible for the jews to follow the law for holiness and follow the new testament for salvation...best of both covenants

The new testament is Mercy the old testament is truth the new testament is peace the old testament is righteousness and and God has them kiss in the next covenant during the millennium as he combines the two covenants of the old and the new.

Psalm 85:10:
10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.


Truth Kisses Righteousness:
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:nuclear:
 Quoting: waterman


The israel we know of today, is not the Israel Y'shua will bring upon His return. It's a counterfeit isreal, with counterfeit heifers that are an abomination to offer to God as I stated in beginning of thread.

It is likened to Cains offering. We should be denouncing this farce and praying the people in the state, realise this too and turn back to Y'shua before it's too late. Then they and some of us, in the remnant will truly know His Israel.
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Also I learned that the bible verse stating people would be beheaded for not taking the mark or rejecting Christ, well the word beheaded was actually "cut off" as in cut off from society.

This fits with what would happen if we don't have the jab/mark and passport to participate in life or do banking.
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OP.

I appreciate your attempt to understand the scriptures. I had studied Ezekiel at one point in the past and had also came across this prophecy. I was excited about the Zadok line and how it corresponds to Jesus and Melchizedek. However, I soon realized that when this prophecy was given, while valid, Jesus came and changed it.

I forgot about it and moved on.

When you posted this thread, it revived my interest, because I had forgotten I had already studied it.

Upon revisiting it, I recalled that I had actually studied it before.

What you are doing is attempting to single out one old testament book pertaining to something Jesus abolished. This is what it means by dead works.

You neglect to take the other scriptures that show this into account and you neglect to realize that this is what Jesus came to do away with.

Honestly, as a believer, I want to know and follow the Word of God. Jesus is that Word that came in the flesh.

You are so focused upon wanting to be correct, that you are unwilling to look at the evidence that shows what you are sharing is contrary to what God had determined.

Another word for Testament is Covenant. They are synonymous.

Testament synonyms [link to thesaurus.plus (secure)]

The Old Testament is about the Old Covenant. The New Testament is about the New Covenant. Jesus abolished the Old and Instituted the New.

If you can't accept this, then you are in a state of delusion just as the scripture I share says some would be given over too.

I am not trying to denigrate you I am attempting to enlighten you and bring you to the truth.

You are stuck on something that God says is dead. I shared scripture to that effect also. Isaiah 66 clearly defines what is occurring with you and many others right now.

I say this as a someone who also diligently wishes to abide by what God says. I don't do it to argue, I don't do it to criticize. I do it to edify.

We must be willing to give up things that are proven untrue and embrace what is true. We must be open to revise our understanding of what we think we know when shown ample evidence that it is in error.

If someone can't and won't, then they are as scripture says given over to delusion.

I can't force you to revise your understanding of what you think you know. I can only provide evidence as to why you are in error. The rest is up to God. I pray that you recognize the truth I have shared with you and that it be His will. If not, then His will be done either way.

This statement is written as a compassionate plea and isn't meant to cause offense. please consider what I have shared.

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This red heifer has to be perfect without blemish or any white or black hairs and there hasn't been a qualifying heifer for 2000 years...they have 3 that are ready as of now and passover 2024 they will be of the correct age to be eligible for the ashes to be gathered



 Quoting: waterman


God does not care about animal sacrifices, not after the sacrifice of Jesus. The only sacrifice God cares about after Jesus is your old life. Christians are the only ones that have a sacrifice, a daily one. You think that the daily sacrfice and oblation to be stopped by the antichrist is an animal sacrifice. No. The sacrifice of Christians stops either one of two ways:

1. The renounce Christ at which time they no longer have any sacrifice as they are reprobated.

2. The die for not rejecting Christ at which time, their sacrifice has ended with martyrdom.

The third temple that God is going to raise up is in Ephesians 2 and 4 other places in the new testament. The temple is your mind and soul, not a building.

These errors are among so many about the end times are the reason so many casual Christians will be utterly confused and lost and shown as such to a lost world as the end times start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222509


If you read Ezekiel specifically the 40's chapters you will see the ezekiel temple is built and fully functioning with daily animal sacrifcies being done. Ezekiel is describing what will be happening during the 1000 year millennium

When Jesus said the law will not be done away with until heaven and earth pass away, he wasn't just saying that for no reason....the last 2000 years God has mainly dealt with the gentiles and gave them the new testament covenant for their grafting into the blessings and salvation

God deals with the Jews during the millennium in a different way than he did in this dispensation....God combines the two covenants...the law/old testament and the faith/new testament to bring forth holiness and salvation. The law takes nothing away from Jesus' salvation fulfillment and Jesus' salvation takes nothing away from the holiness of the law...so Jesus binds satan and his cohorts for the duration of the 1000 year millennium and makes it possible for the jews to follow the law for holiness and follow the new testament for salvation...best of both covenants

The new testament is Mercy the old testament is truth the new testament is peace the old testament is righteousness and and God has them kiss in the next covenant during the millennium as he combines the two covenants of the old and the new.

Psalm 85:10:
10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.


It was customary for jews to kiss the scriptures as a form of reverence:

Jesus kisses the scriptures showing Truth kissing Righteousness




Jewish Practices & Rituals:
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Bar/Bat Mitzvah
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Although kissing holy objects is not a religious obligation, it is a widespread practice among Jews. In the Torah, a kiss was deemed more than a welcoming. To kiss a holy object displays veneration. This symbolically represents one’s devotion to Judaism and loyalty to God. Examples of kissing holy objects include:

• The two ends of the atarah of the tallit are kissed just before putting on the prayer shawl.
• The tefillin are kissed when taken out and returned to their bag.
• The tzitzit (fringes) are kissed at the end of Baruch she-Amar and during the recitation of the Shema.
• The curtain of the ark (parochet) is kissed before opening and after closing (when the Torah is taken out and then returned).
• The Torah mantle is kissed when it passes by in procession in the synagogue.
• The Torah scroll is kissed before one recites the blessings over it, either with the intermediary of the edge of the tallit or the sash used to tie the scroll together, but never with the bare hand.
• A siddur (prayer book) and Chumash are kissed before putting them away; they also are kissed if accidentally dropped on the floor.
• The mezuzah on the doorpost is kissed when entering or leaving a house.


nuclear
 Quoting: waterman


The israel we know of today, is not the Israel Y'shua will bring upon His return. It's a counterfeit isreal, with counterfeit heifers that are an abomination to offer to God as I stated in beginning of thread.

It is likened to Cains offering. We should be denouncing this farce and praying the people in the state, realise this too and turn back to Y'shua before it's too late. Then they and some of us, in the remnant will truly know His Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79578230


God has blinded the Jews to seeing Jesus in order that the gentiles could be grafted into to plan of salvation. While the jews have been blinded to seeing Jesus they have been studying the law and kept the old testament covenant strong

If Jesus only wanted to save one group of people he would have just saved the jews but instead he blinded the jews to seeing him that anyone who believed in him could be saved.

The millennium will be when Jesus is dealing with the jews and those jews born into that time of the millennium will be the ones who didn't have a fair chance to accept Jesus because he blinded them during the last 2000 years to seeing Jesus so that the gentiles could accept Jesus. But because the Jews were blinded they kept studying the old testament to keep it alive when God unites the two covenants and then during the millennium the earthly gentiles will lean on jews to teach them the law for holiness as the law/old testament and the faith/new testament will be one covenant in the millennial kingdom
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There have only been 9 Red heifers used in the bible in 3000 years this Red heifer will be the tenth..it is said one of the 2 anointed will be present for this sacrifice and it is to be performed on a piece of land that has already been purchased on the mount of olives in sight of the eastern gate/golden gate which is a sealed gate

The jews also have a prophecy that an anointed one will walk from the mount of olives to this sealed gate and walk through it so they will know who the true anointed one is.


This is the sealed gate that an anointed one will walk through so possibly the killing of this 10th red heifer could possibly cause an earthquake and knock down the sealed wall and the things on the temple mount that the foundation can begin to be laid:

:eastern gate:
 Quoting: waterman


Sick sick and more sick
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OP.

I appreciate your attempt to understand the scriptures. I had studied Ezekiel at one point in the past and had also came across this prophecy. I was excited about the Zadok line and how it corresponds to Jesus and Melchizedek. However, I soon realized that when this prophecy was given, while valid, Jesus came and changed it.

I forgot about it and moved on.

When you posted this thread, it revived my interest, because I had forgotten I had already studied it.

Upon revisiting it, I recalled that I had actually studied it before.

What you are doing is attempting to single out one old testament book pertaining to something Jesus abolished. This is what it means by dead works.

You neglect to take the other scriptures that show this into account and you neglect to realize that this is what Jesus came to do away with.

Honestly, as a believer, I want to know and follow the Word of God. Jesus is that Word that came in the flesh.

You are so focused upon wanting to be correct, that you are unwilling to look at the evidence that shows what you are sharing is contrary to what God had determined.

Another word for Testament is Covenant. They are synonymous.

Testament synonyms [link to thesaurus.plus (secure)]

The Old Testament is about the Old Covenant. The New Testament is about the New Covenant. Jesus abolished the Old and Instituted the New.

If you can't accept this, then you are in a state of delusion just as the scripture I share says some would be given over too.

I am not trying to denigrate you I am attempting to enlighten you and bring you to the truth.

You are stuck on something that God says is dead. I shared scripture to that effect also. Isaiah 66 clearly defines what is occurring with you and many others right now.

I say this as a someone who also diligently wishes to abide by what God says. I don't do it to argue, I don't do it to criticize. I do it to edify.

We must be willing to give up things that are proven untrue and embrace what is true. We must be open to revise our understanding of what we think we know when shown ample evidence that it is in error.

If someone can't and won't, then they are as scripture says given over to delusion.

I can't force you to revise your understanding of what you think you know. I can only provide evidence as to why you are in error. The rest is up to God. I pray that you recognize the truth I have shared with you and that it be His will. If not, then His will be done either way.

This statement is written as a compassionate plea and isn't meant to cause offense. please consider what I have shared.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Jesus didn't come to abolish the law..he came to fulfill it:

Matthew 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
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God does not care about animal sacrifices, not after the sacrifice of Jesus. The only sacrifice God cares about after Jesus is your old life. Christians are the only ones that have a sacrifice, a daily one. You think that the daily sacrfice and oblation to be stopped by the antichrist is an animal sacrifice. No. The sacrifice of Christians stops either one of two ways:

1. The renounce Christ at which time they no longer have any sacrifice as they are reprobated.

2. The die for not rejecting Christ at which time, their sacrifice has ended with martyrdom.

The third temple that God is going to raise up is in Ephesians 2 and 4 other places in the new testament. The temple is your mind and soul, not a building.

These errors are among so many about the end times are the reason so many casual Christians will be utterly confused and lost and shown as such to a lost world as the end times start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77222509


If you read Ezekiel specifically the 40's chapters you will see the ezekiel temple is built and fully functioning with daily animal sacrifcies being done. Ezekiel is describing what will be happening during the 1000 year millennium

When Jesus said the law will not be done away with until heaven and earth pass away, he wasn't just saying that for no reason....the last 2000 years God has mainly dealt with the gentiles and gave them the new testament covenant for their grafting into the blessings and salvation

God deals with the Jews during the millennium in a different way than he did in this dispensation....God combines the two covenants...the law/old testament and the faith/new testament to bring forth holiness and salvation. The law takes nothing away from Jesus' salvation fulfillment and Jesus' salvation takes nothing away from the holiness of the law...so Jesus binds satan and his cohorts for the duration of the 1000 year millennium and makes it possible for the jews to follow the law for holiness and follow the new testament for salvation...best of both covenants

The new testament is Mercy the old testament is truth the new testament is peace the old testament is righteousness and and God has them kiss in the next covenant during the millennium as he combines the two covenants of the old and the new.

Psalm 85:10:
10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.


It was customary for jews to kiss the scriptures as a form of reverence:

Jesus kisses the scriptures showing Truth kissing Righteousness




Jewish Practices & Rituals:
Table of Contents
|
Bar/Bat Mitzvah
|
Circumcision
Although kissing holy objects is not a religious obligation, it is a widespread practice among Jews. In the Torah, a kiss was deemed more than a welcoming. To kiss a holy object displays veneration. This symbolically represents one’s devotion to Judaism and loyalty to God. Examples of kissing holy objects include:

• The two ends of the atarah of the tallit are kissed just before putting on the prayer shawl.
• The tefillin are kissed when taken out and returned to their bag.
• The tzitzit (fringes) are kissed at the end of Baruch she-Amar and during the recitation of the Shema.
• The curtain of the ark (parochet) is kissed before opening and after closing (when the Torah is taken out and then returned).
• The Torah mantle is kissed when it passes by in procession in the synagogue.
• The Torah scroll is kissed before one recites the blessings over it, either with the intermediary of the edge of the tallit or the sash used to tie the scroll together, but never with the bare hand.
• A siddur (prayer book) and Chumash are kissed before putting them away; they also are kissed if accidentally dropped on the floor.
• The mezuzah on the doorpost is kissed when entering or leaving a house.


:nuclear:
 Quoting: waterman


The israel we know of today, is not the Israel Y'shua will bring upon His return. It's a counterfeit isreal, with counterfeit heifers that are an abomination to offer to God as I stated in beginning of thread.

It is likened to Cains offering. We should be denouncing this farce and praying the people in the state, realise this too and turn back to Y'shua before it's too late. Then they and some of us, in the remnant will truly know His Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79578230


God has blinded the Jews to seeing Jesus in order that the gentiles could be grafted into to plan of salvation. While the jews have been blinded to seeing Jesus they have been studying the law and kept the old testament covenant strong

If Jesus only wanted to save one group of people he would have just saved the jews but instead he blinded the jews to seeing him that anyone who believed in him could be saved.

The millennium will be when Jesus is dealing with the jews and those jews born into that time of the millennium will be the ones who didn't have a fair chance to accept Jesus because he blinded them during the last 2000 years to seeing Jesus so that the gentiles could accept Jesus. But because the Jews were blinded they kept studying the old testament to keep it alive when God unites the two covenants and then during the millennium the earthly gentiles will lean on jews to teach them the law for holiness as the law/old testament and the faith/new testament will be one covenant in the millennial kingdom
 Quoting: waterman

This is incredible bullshit.Godmis not that shit in the sky..t
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OP.

I appreciate your attempt to understand the scriptures. I had studied Ezekiel at one point in the past and had also came across this prophecy. I was excited about the Zadok line and how it corresponds to Jesus and Melchizedek. However, I soon realized that when this prophecy was given, while valid, Jesus came and changed it.

I forgot about it and moved on.

When you posted this thread, it revived my interest, because I had forgotten I had already studied it.

Upon revisiting it, I recalled that I had actually studied it before.

What you are doing is attempting to single out one old testament book pertaining to something Jesus abolished. This is what it means by dead works.

You neglect to take the other scriptures that show this into account and you neglect to realize that this is what Jesus came to do away with.

Honestly, as a believer, I want to know and follow the Word of God. Jesus is that Word that came in the flesh.

You are so focused upon wanting to be correct, that you are unwilling to look at the evidence that shows what you are sharing is contrary to what God had determined.

Another word for Testament is Covenant. They are synonymous.

Testament synonyms [link to thesaurus.plus (secure)]

The Old Testament is about the Old Covenant. The New Testament is about the New Covenant. Jesus abolished the Old and Instituted the New.

If you can't accept this, then you are in a state of delusion just as the scripture I share says some would be given over too.

I am not trying to denigrate you I am attempting to enlighten you and bring you to the truth.

You are stuck on something that God says is dead. I shared scripture to that effect also. Isaiah 66 clearly defines what is occurring with you and many others right now.

I say this as a someone who also diligently wishes to abide by what God says. I don't do it to argue, I don't do it to criticize. I do it to edify.

We must be willing to give up things that are proven untrue and embrace what is true. We must be open to revise our understanding of what we think we know when shown ample evidence that it is in error.

If someone can't and won't, then they are as scripture says given over to delusion.

I can't force you to revise your understanding of what you think you know. I can only provide evidence as to why you are in error. The rest is up to God. I pray that you recognize the truth I have shared with you and that it be His will. If not, then His will be done either way.

This statement is written as a compassionate plea and isn't meant to cause offense. please consider what I have shared.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Jesus didn't come to abolish the law..he came to fulfill it:

Matthew 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 Quoting: waterman


You are conflating the difference of what the law is.

The law Jesus talks about is not the same law that pertains to sacrifice and temple worship. The law Jesus refers to is God's Commandments. Not the law that men practiced relating to animal sacrifice and temple worship. Jesus Himself establishes a distinction between them.

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If you read Ezekiel specifically the 40's chapters you will see the ezekiel temple is built and fully functioning with daily animal sacrifcies being done. Ezekiel is describing what will be happening during the 1000 year millennium

When Jesus said the law will not be done away with until heaven and earth pass away, he wasn't just saying that for no reason....the last 2000 years God has mainly dealt with the gentiles and gave them the new testament covenant for their grafting into the blessings and salvation

God deals with the Jews during the millennium in a different way than he did in this dispensation....God combines the two covenants...the law/old testament and the faith/new testament to bring forth holiness and salvation. The law takes nothing away from Jesus' salvation fulfillment and Jesus' salvation takes nothing away from the holiness of the law...so Jesus binds satan and his cohorts for the duration of the 1000 year millennium and makes it possible for the jews to follow the law for holiness and follow the new testament for salvation...best of both covenants

The new testament is Mercy the old testament is truth the new testament is peace the old testament is righteousness and and God has them kiss in the next covenant during the millennium as he combines the two covenants of the old and the new.

Psalm 85:10:
10 Mercy and truth are met together; righteousness and peace have kissed each other.


It was customary for jews to kiss the scriptures as a form of reverence:

Jesus kisses the scriptures showing Truth kissing Righteousness




Jewish Practices & Rituals:
Table of Contents
|
Bar/Bat Mitzvah
|
Circumcision
Although kissing holy objects is not a religious obligation, it is a widespread practice among Jews. In the Torah, a kiss was deemed more than a welcoming. To kiss a holy object displays veneration. This symbolically represents one’s devotion to Judaism and loyalty to God. Examples of kissing holy objects include:

• The two ends of the atarah of the tallit are kissed just before putting on the prayer shawl.
• The tefillin are kissed when taken out and returned to their bag.
• The tzitzit (fringes) are kissed at the end of Baruch she-Amar and during the recitation of the Shema.
• The curtain of the ark (parochet) is kissed before opening and after closing (when the Torah is taken out and then returned).
• The Torah mantle is kissed when it passes by in procession in the synagogue.
• The Torah scroll is kissed before one recites the blessings over it, either with the intermediary of the edge of the tallit or the sash used to tie the scroll together, but never with the bare hand.
• A siddur (prayer book) and Chumash are kissed before putting them away; they also are kissed if accidentally dropped on the floor.
• The mezuzah on the doorpost is kissed when entering or leaving a house.


nuclear
 Quoting: waterman


The israel we know of today, is not the Israel Y'shua will bring upon His return. It's a counterfeit isreal, with counterfeit heifers that are an abomination to offer to God as I stated in beginning of thread.

It is likened to Cains offering. We should be denouncing this farce and praying the people in the state, realise this too and turn back to Y'shua before it's too late. Then they and some of us, in the remnant will truly know His Israel.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79578230


God has blinded the Jews to seeing Jesus in order that the gentiles could be grafted into to plan of salvation. While the jews have been blinded to seeing Jesus they have been studying the law and kept the old testament covenant strong

If Jesus only wanted to save one group of people he would have just saved the jews but instead he blinded the jews to seeing him that anyone who believed in him could be saved.

The millennium will be when Jesus is dealing with the jews and those jews born into that time of the millennium will be the ones who didn't have a fair chance to accept Jesus because he blinded them during the last 2000 years to seeing Jesus so that the gentiles could accept Jesus. But because the Jews were blinded they kept studying the old testament to keep it alive when God unites the two covenants and then during the millennium the earthly gentiles will lean on jews to teach them the law for holiness as the law/old testament and the faith/new testament will be one covenant in the millennial kingdom
 Quoting: waterman

This is incredible bullshit.Godmis not that shit in the sky..t
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86838488


So you think God replaced the gentiles for the jews and didn't really want to save everybody possible, whether jew or gentile? God just gets to pick one group?
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OP.

I appreciate your attempt to understand the scriptures. I had studied Ezekiel at one point in the past and had also came across this prophecy. I was excited about the Zadok line and how it corresponds to Jesus and Melchizedek. However, I soon realized that when this prophecy was given, while valid, Jesus came and changed it.

I forgot about it and moved on.

When you posted this thread, it revived my interest, because I had forgotten I had already studied it.

Upon revisiting it, I recalled that I had actually studied it before.

What you are doing is attempting to single out one old testament book pertaining to something Jesus abolished. This is what it means by dead works.

You neglect to take the other scriptures that show this into account and you neglect to realize that this is what Jesus came to do away with.

Honestly, as a believer, I want to know and follow the Word of God. Jesus is that Word that came in the flesh.

You are so focused upon wanting to be correct, that you are unwilling to look at the evidence that shows what you are sharing is contrary to what God had determined.

Another word for Testament is Covenant. They are synonymous.

Testament synonyms [link to thesaurus.plus (secure)]

The Old Testament is about the Old Covenant. The New Testament is about the New Covenant. Jesus abolished the Old and Instituted the New.

If you can't accept this, then you are in a state of delusion just as the scripture I share says some would be given over too.

I am not trying to denigrate you I am attempting to enlighten you and bring you to the truth.

You are stuck on something that God says is dead. I shared scripture to that effect also. Isaiah 66 clearly defines what is occurring with you and many others right now.

I say this as a someone who also diligently wishes to abide by what God says. I don't do it to argue, I don't do it to criticize. I do it to edify.

We must be willing to give up things that are proven untrue and embrace what is true. We must be open to revise our understanding of what we think we know when shown ample evidence that it is in error.

If someone can't and won't, then they are as scripture says given over to delusion.

I can't force you to revise your understanding of what you think you know. I can only provide evidence as to why you are in error. The rest is up to God. I pray that you recognize the truth I have shared with you and that it be His will. If not, then His will be done either way.

This statement is written as a compassionate plea and isn't meant to cause offense. please consider what I have shared.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Jesus didn't come to abolish the law..he came to fulfill it:

Matthew 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 Quoting: waterman


You are conflating the difference of what the law is.

The law Jesus talks about is not the same law that pertains to sacrifice and temple worship. The law Jesus refers to is God's Commandments. Not the law that men practiced relating to animal sacrifice and temple worship.
 Quoting: Osmium76



Am I to believe your perspective of the law or Ezekiels millennial kingdom perspective of a physical temple and animal sacrifices and a levtic priesthood...I'm leaning toward the prophet Ezekiel..after all he was given a book in the bible

ezekielbook
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OP.

I appreciate your attempt to understand the scriptures. I had studied Ezekiel at one point in the past and had also came across this prophecy. I was excited about the Zadok line and how it corresponds to Jesus and Melchizedek. However, I soon realized that when this prophecy was given, while valid, Jesus came and changed it.

I forgot about it and moved on.

When you posted this thread, it revived my interest, because I had forgotten I had already studied it.

Upon revisiting it, I recalled that I had actually studied it before.

What you are doing is attempting to single out one old testament book pertaining to something Jesus abolished. This is what it means by dead works.

You neglect to take the other scriptures that show this into account and you neglect to realize that this is what Jesus came to do away with.

Honestly, as a believer, I want to know and follow the Word of God. Jesus is that Word that came in the flesh.

You are so focused upon wanting to be correct, that you are unwilling to look at the evidence that shows what you are sharing is contrary to what God had determined.

Another word for Testament is Covenant. They are synonymous.

Testament synonyms [link to thesaurus.plus (secure)]

The Old Testament is about the Old Covenant. The New Testament is about the New Covenant. Jesus abolished the Old and Instituted the New.

If you can't accept this, then you are in a state of delusion just as the scripture I share says some would be given over too.

I am not trying to denigrate you I am attempting to enlighten you and bring you to the truth.

You are stuck on something that God says is dead. I shared scripture to that effect also. Isaiah 66 clearly defines what is occurring with you and many others right now.

I say this as a someone who also diligently wishes to abide by what God says. I don't do it to argue, I don't do it to criticize. I do it to edify.

We must be willing to give up things that are proven untrue and embrace what is true. We must be open to revise our understanding of what we think we know when shown ample evidence that it is in error.

If someone can't and won't, then they are as scripture says given over to delusion.

I can't force you to revise your understanding of what you think you know. I can only provide evidence as to why you are in error. The rest is up to God. I pray that you recognize the truth I have shared with you and that it be His will. If not, then His will be done either way.

This statement is written as a compassionate plea and isn't meant to cause offense. please consider what I have shared.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Jesus didn't come to abolish the law..he came to fulfill it:

Matthew 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 Quoting: waterman


You are conflating the difference of what the law is.

The law Jesus talks about is not the same law that pertains to sacrifice and temple worship. The law Jesus refers to is God's Commandments. Not the law that men practiced relating to animal sacrifice and temple worship.
 Quoting: Osmium76



Am I to believe your perspective of the law or Ezekiels millennial kingdom perspective of a physical temple and animal sacrifices and a levtic priesthood...I'm leaning toward the prophet Ezekiel..after all he was given a book in the bible

ezekielbook
 Quoting: waterman


So, is Isaiah. You have to take all scripture, not just one book. You are stuck on that one book and dismiss the rest.
Chasing the dream....realizing the Revelation. ~Intrepid searcher~

Ecclesiastes 12:13 “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”

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This threads turned into a bible.fight.

As usual.

Spurred on by the satani z-nist rapture tards.
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There is no peace on earth. Just a raging battle against lies and truth that will eventually come to an end, when the Creator sets all things in order.
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Ecclesiastes 12:13 “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”

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Jews look for two males...messiah ben joseph and messiah ben david....I don't see anywhere they are looking for a female...you got some links?
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Can't be bothered but the bible says it is a female.

In V for Vendetta, Steven Frys character laughs on the phone and says, "A heifer getting crucified? Very funny, you'll have to rewrite it."

That wasn't just a random line.
.
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Quit spouting nonsense, dipshit
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OP.

I appreciate your attempt to understand the scriptures. I had studied Ezekiel at one point in the past and had also came across this prophecy. I was excited about the Zadok line and how it corresponds to Jesus and Melchizedek. However, I soon realized that when this prophecy was given, while valid, Jesus came and changed it.

I forgot about it and moved on.

When you posted this thread, it revived my interest, because I had forgotten I had already studied it.

Upon revisiting it, I recalled that I had actually studied it before.

What you are doing is attempting to single out one old testament book pertaining to something Jesus abolished. This is what it means by dead works.

You neglect to take the other scriptures that show this into account and you neglect to realize that this is what Jesus came to do away with.

Honestly, as a believer, I want to know and follow the Word of God. Jesus is that Word that came in the flesh.

You are so focused upon wanting to be correct, that you are unwilling to look at the evidence that shows what you are sharing is contrary to what God had determined.

Another word for Testament is Covenant. They are synonymous.

Testament synonyms [link to thesaurus.plus (secure)]

The Old Testament is about the Old Covenant. The New Testament is about the New Covenant. Jesus abolished the Old and Instituted the New.

If you can't accept this, then you are in a state of delusion just as the scripture I share says some would be given over too.

I am not trying to denigrate you I am attempting to enlighten you and bring you to the truth.

You are stuck on something that God says is dead. I shared scripture to that effect also. Isaiah 66 clearly defines what is occurring with you and many others right now.

I say this as a someone who also diligently wishes to abide by what God says. I don't do it to argue, I don't do it to criticize. I do it to edify.

We must be willing to give up things that are proven untrue and embrace what is true. We must be open to revise our understanding of what we think we know when shown ample evidence that it is in error.

If someone can't and won't, then they are as scripture says given over to delusion.

I can't force you to revise your understanding of what you think you know. I can only provide evidence as to why you are in error. The rest is up to God. I pray that you recognize the truth I have shared with you and that it be His will. If not, then His will be done either way.

This statement is written as a compassionate plea and isn't meant to cause offense. please consider what I have shared.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Jesus didn't come to abolish the law..he came to fulfill it:

Matthew 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 Quoting: waterman


You are conflating the difference of what the law is.

The law Jesus talks about is not the same law that pertains to sacrifice and temple worship. The law Jesus refers to is God's Commandments. Not the law that men practiced relating to animal sacrifice and temple worship.
 Quoting: Osmium76



...


Jesus didn't come to abolish the law..he came to fulfill it:

Matthew 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 Quoting: waterman


You are conflating the difference of what the law is.

The law Jesus talks about is not the same law that pertains to sacrifice and temple worship. The law Jesus refers to is God's Commandments. Not the law that men practiced relating to animal sacrifice and temple worship.
 Quoting: Osmium76



Am I to believe your perspective of the law or Ezekiels millennial kingdom perspective of a physical temple and animal sacrifices and a levtic priesthood...I'm leaning toward the prophet Ezekiel..after all he was given a book in the bible

:ezekielbook:
 Quoting: waterman




Am I to believe your perspective of the law or Ezekiels millennial kingdom perspective of a physical temple and animal sacrifices and a levtic priesthood...I'm leaning toward the prophet Ezekiel..after all he was given a book in the bible

:ezekielbook:
 Quoting: waterman
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Jesus didn't come to abolish the law..he came to fulfill it:

Matthew 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 Quoting: waterman


You are conflating the difference of what the law is.

The law Jesus talks about is not the same law that pertains to sacrifice and temple worship. The law Jesus refers to is God's Commandments. Not the law that men practiced relating to animal sacrifice and temple worship.
 Quoting: Osmium76



...


You are conflating the difference of what the law is.

The law Jesus talks about is not the same law that pertains to sacrifice and temple worship. The law Jesus refers to is God's Commandments. Not the law that men practiced relating to animal sacrifice and temple worship.
 Quoting: Osmium76



Am I to believe your perspective of the law or Ezekiels millennial kingdom perspective of a physical temple and animal sacrifices and a levtic priesthood...I'm leaning toward the prophet Ezekiel..after all he was given a book in the bible

:ezekielbook:
 Quoting: waterman




Am I to believe your perspective of the law or Ezekiels millennial kingdom perspective of a physical temple and animal sacrifices and a levtic priesthood...I'm leaning toward the prophet Ezekiel..after all he was given a book in the bible

:ezekielbook:
 Quoting: waterman

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64449827


Lol this

OP.

I appreciate your attempt to understand the scriptures. I had studied Ezekiel at one point in the past and had also came across this prophecy. I was excited about the Zadok line and how it corresponds to Jesus and Melchizedek. However, I soon realized that when this prophecy was given, while valid, Jesus came and changed it.

I forgot about it and moved on.

When you posted this thread, it revived my interest, because I had forgotten I had already studied it.

Upon revisiting it, I recalled that I had actually studied it before.

What you are doing is attempting to single out one old testament book pertaining to something Jesus abolished. This is what it means by dead works.

You neglect to take the other scriptures that show this into account and you neglect to realize that this is what Jesus came to do away with.

Honestly, as a believer, I want to know and follow the Word of God. Jesus is that Word that came in the flesh.

You are so focused upon wanting to be correct, that you are unwilling to look at the evidence that shows what you are sharing is contrary to what God had determined.

Another word for Testament is Covenant. They are synonymous.

Testament synonyms [link to thesaurus.plus (secure)]

The Old Testament is about the Old Covenant. The New Testament is about the New Covenant. Jesus abolished the Old and Instituted the New.

If you can't accept this, then you are in a state of delusion just as the scripture I share says some would be given over too.

I am not trying to denigrate you I am attempting to enlighten you and bring you to the truth.

You are stuck on something that God says is dead. I shared scripture to that effect also. Isaiah 66 clearly defines what is occurring with you and many others right now.

I say this as a someone who also diligently wishes to abide by what God says. I don't do it to argue, I don't do it to criticize. I do it to edify.

We must be willing to give up things that are proven untrue and embrace what is true. We must be open to revise our understanding of what we think we know when shown ample evidence that it is in error.

If someone can't and won't, then they are as scripture says given over to delusion.

I can't force you to revise your understanding of what you think you know. I can only provide evidence as to why you are in error. The rest is up to God. I pray that you recognize the truth I have shared with you and that it be His will. If not, then His will be done either way.

This statement is written as a compassionate plea and isn't meant to cause offense. please consider what I have shared.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Jesus didn't come to abolish the law..he came to fulfill it:

Matthew 5:
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
 Quoting: waterman


You are conflating the difference of what the law is.

The law Jesus talks about is not the same law that pertains to sacrifice and temple worship. The law Jesus refers to is God's Commandments. Not the law that men practiced relating to animal sacrifice and temple worship.
 Quoting: Osmium76



Am I to believe your perspective of the law or Ezekiels millennial kingdom perspective of a physical temple and animal sacrifices and a levtic priesthood...I'm leaning toward the prophet Ezekiel..after all he was given a book in the bible

:ezekielbook:
 Quoting: waterman
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What I shared was just as much for OP as it is for anyone who reads this thread.

Those who understand will and those who don't, will stumble in their blindness, just as scripture says.

I wash my hands of it. Dust my feet and go on to better things, knowing my testimony in this thread is true and isn't of my own desire or interpretation, but of the scriptures that I present as evidence.
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Ecclesiastes 12:13 “Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.”

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What I shared was just as much for OP as it is for anyone who reads this thread.

Those who understand will and those who don't, will stumble in their blindness, just as scripture says.

I wash my hands of it. Dust my feet and go on to better things, knowing my testimony in this thread is true and isn't of my own desire or interpretation, but of the scriptures that I present as evidence.
 Quoting: Osmium76


Thanks for sharing your perspective….have a good one
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Numbers 19:2

“This is a requirement of the law that the LORD has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke.

scripture clearly states to bring a red heifer from their own tribe, nowhere does it say, bring a red heifer from the nations that are not israel, which they did, they got their red cows from texas, hashem did not give them red cows by birth in jerusalem, which means those red cows are for those whom hashem gave them red cows to. since the semites took those cows that means the will of hashem is not being done, their will against hashem is being done, obviously hashem wants the nations to sacrifice the red cow, not the semites. bad things happen when laws are not followed accordingly.
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Numbers 19:2

“This is a requirement of the law that the LORD has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke.

scripture clearly states to bring a red heifer from their own tribe, nowhere does it say, bring a red heifer from the nations that are not israel, which they did, they got their red cows from texas, hashem did not give them red cows by birth in jerusalem, which means those red cows are for those whom hashem gave them red cows to. since the semites took those cows that means the will of hashem is not being done, their will against hashem is being done, obviously hashem wants the nations to sacrifice the red cow, not the semites. bad things happen when laws are not followed accordingly.
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Yeah...

But it does give these satanic bastards something to fap over besides children for a change.


HELL SCREAMERS AND RAPTURE TARDS.

SPEND THEIR LIVES TELLING YOU THEIR GOD OF HATE AND DEATH WILL BURN YOU ALIVE FOREVER..

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you don't seem to grasp the gravity of their situation, they are going to war against their own sky daddy. that's suicide.
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Numbers 19:2

“This is a requirement of the law that the LORD has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke.

scripture clearly states to bring a red heifer from their own tribe, nowhere does it say, bring a red heifer from the nations that are not israel, which they did, they got their red cows from texas, hashem did not give them red cows by birth in jerusalem, which means those red cows are for those whom hashem gave them red cows to. since the semites took those cows that means the will of hashem is not being done, their will against hashem is being done, obviously hashem wants the nations to sacrifice the red cow, not the semites. bad things happen when laws are not followed accordingly.
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The thing you are not understanding is the United States is Ephraim the northern kingdom of Israel the lost 10 tribes so those red heifers come from Israel just the northern kingdom of ephraim that you can’t yet see

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Numbers 19:2

“This is a requirement of the law that the LORD has commanded: Tell the Israelites to bring you a red heifer without defect or blemish and that has never been under a yoke.

scripture clearly states to bring a red heifer from their own tribe, nowhere does it say, bring a red heifer from the nations that are not israel, which they did, they got their red cows from texas, hashem did not give them red cows by birth in jerusalem, which means those red cows are for those whom hashem gave them red cows to. since the semites took those cows that means the will of hashem is not being done, their will against hashem is being done, obviously hashem wants the nations to sacrifice the red cow, not the semites. bad things happen when laws are not followed accordingly.
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The thing you are not understanding is the United States is Ephraim the northern kingdom of Israel the lost 10 tribes so those red heifers come from Israel just the northern kingdom of ephraim that you can’t yet see

:12redhef:
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you just added words to scripture, nowhere in torah does it say the united states is ephraim. reprobate thinking.





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