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I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize
that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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Re: I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize
that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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I looked and found. This place is designed to be proven futile so we can choose what's important.

It helped when I looked up old quotes from people that seemed to never sleep, barely eat, and be opposed to pleasure. They seemed productive but I couldn't understand why they'd make big families. Seemed like they'd run out eventually and suffer.

Tesla had a lot to say about math and God b I suggest you read about what he was referring to when he claimed 3/6/9 don't exist. I heard 0 can't exist so it wasn't far fetched. He also claims to understand God just think in terms of energy and matter.

For proof think about Noah and why he bothered if it was just a voice in his head. Same for Moses, why give up on your society when you're relatively well set.
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If God exists he is outside of our universe. Not chilling on some planet.
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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What happens to the experiment if the scientist fucks with it?
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Re: I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize
that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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I looked and found. This place is designed to be proven futile so we can choose what's important.

It helped when I looked up old quotes from people that seemed to never sleep, barely eat, and be opposed to pleasure. They seemed productive but I couldn't understand why they'd make big families. Seemed like they'd run out eventually and suffer.

Tesla had a lot to say about math and God b I suggest you read about what he was referring to when he claimed 3/6/9 don't exist. I heard 0 can't exist so it wasn't far fetched. He also claims to understand God just think in terms of energy and matter.

For proof think about Noah and why he bothered if it was just a voice in his head. Same for Moses, why give up on your society when you're relatively well set.
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For the last two you mention, that could come down to either just a story, or power through control, which religion is...
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Re: I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize
that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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What happens to the experiment if the scientist fucks with it?
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Schrodingers Cat or the double slit test... which are very interesting.
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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What happens to the experiment if the scientist fucks with it?
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Schrodingers Cat or the double slit test... which are very interesting.
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So now you understand why God doesn't interfere...
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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I love science, but the theory of big bang and evolution is impossible
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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Perfection is a perspective. I dont hinge my beliefs on Christianity. To say that a Creator will not interfere has nothing to do with change based on observation. It implies, 1) doesnt care, which is fine, 2) does not have the power to do so.
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I love science, but the theory of big bang and evolution is impossible
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I agree.
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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Perfection is a perspective. I dont hinge my beliefs on Christianity. To say that a Creator will not interfere has nothing to do with change based on observation. It implies, 1) doesnt care, which is fine, 2) does not have the power to do so.
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It would alter the outcome, and that would defeat His will.
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Re: I dont believe in a religious god, but having degrees in advanced math I also realize
that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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I looked and found. This place is designed to be proven futile so we can choose what's important.

It helped when I looked up old quotes from people that seemed to never sleep, barely eat, and be opposed to pleasure. They seemed productive but I couldn't understand why they'd make big families. Seemed like they'd run out eventually and suffer.

Tesla had a lot to say about math and God b I suggest you read about what he was referring to when he claimed 3/6/9 don't exist. I heard 0 can't exist so it wasn't far fetched. He also claims to understand God just think in terms of energy and matter.

For proof think about Noah and why he bothered if it was just a voice in his head. Same for Moses, why give up on your society when you're relatively well set.
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For the last two you mention, that could come down to either just a story, or power through control, which religion is...
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I didn't practice religion I empathized with others and tried being honest. My dad's a gay scientist and my mom was a nurse that wanted to be either a nun or rich housewife.

In trying to mind my manners and avoid reacting I started to conclude we operate like biological AI where we can choose our own influences. We ALL have different combinations of wants and mostly have the same needs. But we're born inefficient and seemingly all seeking more time in the fetal position.

Imo we're born human thinking we're 'man' but that last step is an unnatural choice because we can't face the reality of how much self-improvement we have to actually get there.

Think a conflicting thought and the belief system can be compromised. Prove one only if you need to know.

Knowing there's a god is probably not for anybody happy with their life. I wanted to know because it seemed like civilization got so easy it was going to unwittingly end.

I've been to mental institutions because my mother needed an excuse. Every time I get held no longer than to be observed and released because I'm not unreasonable, lazy, or otherwise a negative influence on others.

I helped people start successful businesses and they're all providing services to the people that ultimately decide whats a punishable offense and what's a fair consequence.

With that said, I never got in trouble with the law until I was 39 and that was years after asking our creator to change me. When I got in trouble they were very difficult to work with because they avoided me.

The last time I was in court I told them I didn't agree to their consequences for not serving my community service and I'm not going to rehab for marijuana. Then I asked if there were any consequences for walking out and the judge shook his head and I just went about living my life.

So I've given you a lot to digest and enough to dismiss me as nuts. Choice is yours if knowing there's a god and heaven or not.
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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God doesn't love you.
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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it is we who are imperfect, attempting to be perfect but your fate is determined for most part before you are really conscious so it's all meaningless,

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What if you yourself were (are) the god you are complaining about now?
I came across this very interesting idea: If something is bad for you, instead of resisting it, try to make it STRONGER in your thinking. And at the same time be open to ideas that may spring into your mind that would explain why YOU, with god-like powers, would have decided that this bad thing SHOULD come into existence.

Oh, yes, I can see why I wanted others weak, or stupid, etc. So will you, if you are honested with yourself. Put yourself in the position of a god-like being, stranded in this confusing material universe where communicating with others is a real challenge and the laws of time, space, etc. are not exactly how you would like it. You might have gotten pretty desperate at times.
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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Perfection is a perspective. I dont hinge my beliefs on Christianity. To say that a Creator will not interfere has nothing to do with change based on observation. It implies, 1) doesnt care, which is fine, 2) does not have the power to do so.
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It would alter the outcome, and that would defeat His will.
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Stop with the RELIGIOUS interpretation. Its BS... thanks.
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If God needed to interfere, it would imply that His Creation wasn't perfect...Which it is.
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Perfection is a perspective. I dont hinge my beliefs on Christianity. To say that a Creator will not interfere has nothing to do with change based on observation. It implies, 1) doesnt care, which is fine, 2) does not have the power to do so.
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It would alter the outcome, and that would defeat His will.
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Stop with the RELIGIOUS interpretation. Its BS... thanks.
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I didn't mention a religion.
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Advanced maths huh?

Then watch these 5 video's,starting with this one,and you will understand.


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Perfection is a perspective. I dont hinge my beliefs on Christianity. To say that a Creator will not interfere has nothing to do with change based on observation. It implies, 1) doesnt care, which is fine, 2) does not have the power to do so.
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It would alter the outcome, and that would defeat His will.
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Stop with the RELIGIOUS interpretation. Its BS... thanks.
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I didn't mention a religion.
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You know very well you implied it... His will? Whats his will? Explain how you know what his will is...
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Advanced maths huh?

Then watch these 5 video's,starting with this one,and you will understand.


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Fallacy, basing this on religious texts... religion is not a representation of a creator... it is a representation of mans control over others.
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It would alter the outcome, and that would defeat His will.
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Stop with the RELIGIOUS interpretation. Its BS... thanks.
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I didn't mention a religion.
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You know very well you implied it... His will? Whats his will? Explain how you know what his will is...
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It's only logical, just as mathematics is logic.
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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Consider it kinda like the force.. infinite source of energy.. unquantatatively if you will. I think it's like a super AI computer in terms of how fast the Supreme creator of all thinks. All by design.. perfectly.. allows for evolution by set molds with so many possibilities.
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Stop with the RELIGIOUS interpretation. Its BS... thanks.
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I didn't mention a religion.
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You know very well you implied it... His will? Whats his will? Explain how you know what his will is...
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It's only logical, just as mathematics is logic.
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No, that is not logical and math can be illogical at times... you mentioned his will, like I said, what exactly is this creators will.
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I didn't mention a religion.
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You know very well you implied it... His will? Whats his will? Explain how you know what his will is...
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It's only logical, just as mathematics is logic.
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No, that is not logical and math can be illogical at times... you mentioned his will, like I said, what exactly is this creators will.
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Explain illogical math.
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that this shit did not just "come to be"... its not even plausible. However, if this god or creator does exist, I would think it just made shit and went on. This idea that this creator somehow gives two shits about humans is not tangible, considering multiplies of other live throughout the universe. We are just one of many... so knowing this, I dont fear death, its either something or nothing, perhaps multiverse or consciousness at the quantum level...
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Consider it kinda like the force.. infinite source of energy.. unquantatatively if you will. I think it's like a super AI computer in terms of how fast the Supreme creator of all thinks. All by design.. perfectly.. allows for evolution by set molds with so many possibilities.
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I believe that to some degree. It is everything around us, and us. I guess things are what they are... no interference, other than this Creator is perhaps embraces nihilism in the sense that life is life and in the end it matters not your path, your end, or whats inbetween... it just is
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You know very well you implied it... His will? Whats his will? Explain how you know what his will is...
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It's only logical, just as mathematics is logic.
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No, that is not logical and math can be illogical at times... you mentioned his will, like I said, what exactly is this creators will.
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Explain illogical math.
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Axioms for a start
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It's only logical, just as mathematics is logic.
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No, that is not logical and math can be illogical at times... you mentioned his will, like I said, what exactly is this creators will.
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Explain illogical math.
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Axioms for a start
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No, but you can start again.
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This is all that I can offer.

A Maskil[a] of David.

32 Blessed is the one whose transgression is forgiven,
whose sin is covered.

2 Blessed is the man against whom the Lord counts no iniquity,
and in whose spirit there is no deceit.

3 For when I kept silent, my bones wasted away
through my groaning all day long.

4 For day and night your hand was heavy upon me;
my strength was dried up as by the heat of summer.
Selah

5 I acknowledged my sin to you,

and I did not cover my iniquity;

I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord,”

and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Selah
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No, that is not logical and math can be illogical at times... you mentioned his will, like I said, what exactly is this creators will.
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Explain illogical math.
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Axioms for a start
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No, but you can start again.
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Yes, and you can get lost...





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