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Besides UFO's/UAP's what else travels through the atmosphere at more than 1,000 km/sec?

 
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Besides UFO's/UAP's what else travels through the atmosphere at more than 1,000 km/sec?
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Re: Besides UFO's/UAP's what else travels through the atmosphere at more than 1,000 km/sec?
popcorn
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Photons ?
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popcorn
 Quoting: Bob from Chimdale


Photons ?
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Of course.


Besides them?
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Time's up.



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Re: Besides UFO's/UAP's what else travels through the atmosphere at more than 1,000 km/sec?
I am not here to debunk.


There seem like there are two likely possibilities.

One is: many UAP's may be electromagnetic phenomena in the atmosphere.


Foo fighters might well have been ball lightning, for instance.



The other is: if these are craft, maybe their propulsion system is electromagnetic in nature...and this is the possibility that has always really intrigued me.

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I have personally witnessed 3 of these “things” and I can most definitely tell you what they are not.

Morphing metallic orb right in front of my eyes. A shape that crossed the entire sky in about 3 seconds where a jet would take 5-10 minutes or more. Not the atmosphere man. And dare I say, likely not human made. Running on the electricity all around us? Possible. Tesla knew a way and that was buried. Or was it?
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I have personally witnessed 3 of these “things” and I can most definitely tell you what they are not.

Morphing metallic orb right in front of my eyes. A shape that crossed the entire sky in about 3 seconds where a jet would take 5-10 minutes or more. Not the atmosphere man. And dare I say, likely not human made. Running on the electricity all around us? Possible. Tesla knew a way and that was buried. Or was it?
 Quoting: American Poet


Precisely


Tesla was experimenting with applying a fluctuating ELECTROSTATIC charge to a polished Beryllium METALLIC SPHERE -- and claimed that it levitated-- though in an erratic and uncontrolled manner.


There is something there I think.
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I have personally witnessed 3 of these “things” and I can most definitely tell you what they are not.

Morphing metallic orb right in front of my eyes. A shape that crossed the entire sky in about 3 seconds where a jet would take 5-10 minutes or more. Not the atmosphere man. And dare I say, likely not human made. Running on the electricity all around us? Possible. Tesla knew a way and that was buried. Or was it?
 Quoting: American Poet


Precisely


Tesla was experimenting with applying a fluctuating ELECTROSTATIC charge to a polished Beryllium METALLIC SPHERE -- and claimed that it levitated-- though in an erratic and uncontrolled manner.


There is something there I think.
 Quoting: Bob from Chimdale


Quite possibly OP, but it doesnt explain these sightings going on for millenia. I think some are theirs and some are ours.
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I have personally witnessed 3 of these “things” and I can most definitely tell you what they are not.

Morphing metallic orb right in front of my eyes. A shape that crossed the entire sky in about 3 seconds where a jet would take 5-10 minutes or more. Not the atmosphere man. And dare I say, likely not human made. Running on the electricity all around us? Possible. Tesla knew a way and that was buried. Or was it?
 Quoting: American Poet


Precisely


Tesla was experimenting with applying a fluctuating ELECTROSTATIC charge to a polished Beryllium METALLIC SPHERE -- and claimed that it levitated-- though in an erratic and uncontrolled manner.


There is something there I think.
 Quoting: Bob from Chimdale


Quite possibly OP, but it doesnt explain these sightings going on for millenia. I think some are theirs and some are ours.
 Quoting: American Poet


I'm just interested in how "they" or "we" do it.


But yeah, sightings go way back. No doubt.
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Re: Besides UFO's/UAP's what else travels through the atmosphere at more than 1,000 km/sec?
The spot of a laser pointer on a cloud.

It can easily move in physically impossible ways. With g-forces that would be impossible to survive.
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The spot of a laser pointer on a cloud.

It can easily move in physically impossible ways. With g-forces that would be impossible to survive.
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My best friend passed away last year.

Like Poet he saw one of those orbs...

At Giant Rock near Landers, CA.


It was not a laser pointer.

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You want to know what Tesla was almost about to do maybe?
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Metallic sphere...

Fluctuating electrostatic field/charge...
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An unladen swallow?
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A Left Wing Narrative emanating from Associated Press headquarters on it’s way to the major news networks.
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A Left Wing Narrative emanating from Associated Press headquarters on it’s way to the major news networks.
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Nothing to do with politics or AP.
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popcorn
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OP’s mom to toss my salad.

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OP’s mom to toss my salad.

epiclol
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Dude, I get it.


You're a moron.
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Re: Besides UFO's/UAP's what else travels through the atmosphere at more than 1,000 km/sec?
Lorentz Force

Charge
Velocity
External Magnetic Field



Earth's terrestrial magnetic field: about .2 Oersted in a horizontal direction at temperate latitudes.
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Re: Besides UFO's/UAP's what else travels through the atmosphere at more than 1,000 km/sec?
Speed of fastest human jet

SR-71 Blackbird

3,530 km/hr


(3,530,000 m/hr or 12,708,000,000 m/sec)


1.2708 x 10^10 m/sec
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.2 Oersted

.00002 Tesla


(2 x 10^-5 T)
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What kind of force can be generated if we charge a metallic sphere and propel it at high velocity in the earth's magnetic field?
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Re: Besides UFO's/UAP's what else travels through the atmosphere at more than 1,000 km/sec?
Capacitance of sphere


4 Pi X Permittivity X Area



Area of sphere

4 Pi r^2


Let r=1 and permittivity equal one (vaccuum or air -- approximate)


Capacitance = 16 Pi^2 = about 157



Let voltage = 25 MV


(strongest Van de Graaf generator)


q = C/V

= 157/2.5 x 10^7 volts

= .00000628 coulombs

= 6.208 x 10^-6 Coulombs


Now multiply that by 100 for fluctuating charge


6.208 X 10-4 coulombs


LORENTZ FORCE

F= q(E + v X B)


let E=0 (no external electric field)

let v = 1.2708 X 10^10 m/sec

let B = 2 X 10^-5 T

let q = 6.208 X 10-4 coulombs


F = 151 N (approximately)
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Laser pointers
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Let mass of sphere = 15 kg


F = ma


Let a=g (9.8 m/sec^2)


151 N is enough to counteract the force of gravity perhaps for a 15 kg sphere if it were travelling at the maximum speed of the SR-71.


With all due deference to swallows and coconuts...
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Laser pointers
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They had laser pointers in WW2?


Foo fighters were dots from laser pointers?





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