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Deaths During the Great Tribulation - No Pre-Trib Rapture

 
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Revelation Chapters 6 thru 11 are the Tribulation that Jesus spoke of.

It's not wrath.

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Here's a quick look at deaths in Revelation in sequence. I may have missed one or two.


1. 2nd Seal - red horse - men will kill one another

Revelation 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.


2. 4th Seal - pale horse - 1/4 of the earth

Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.


3. 3rd trumpet - many die from "bitter waters" caused by wormwood.

Revelation 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.


4. 6th trumpet - 1/3 of all men

Revelation 9

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.



5. Those who don't worship the image of the beast will be killed

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

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Revelation 11:3 - Two Witnesses preach for 1260 days.

3 And I will give power unto my two witnesses, and they shall prophesy a thousand two hundred and threescore days, clothed in sackcloth.

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Revelation 11:7 witnesses killed at end of 1260 days.

7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

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Revelation 11:11 - Day 1263 Witnessis resurrected

11 And after three days and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.

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Revelation 11:15 - Christ Returns at Seventh *(Last) Trump

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

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Revelation 11:18 - Resurrection followed by the Rapture

18 And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

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Revelation Chapter 11

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1260 days - Two Witnesses and Blasphemer

Day 1263 - Two Witnesses resurrected

Day 1290 - ? Daniel 12:11

Day 1335 - ? Daniel 12:12 "Blessed is he... "

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All the below itmes happen after Day 1263

1. Sign of the Son of Man

2. Tares Removed

3. Last Trump / Christ's Return ( Revelation 11:15 and 1 Corinthians 15:52 )

4. Resurrection / Rapture ( Revelation 11:18 and 1 THessalonians 4 )

Rapture would seem to be Day 1335.

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Deaths During the Great Tribulation - No Pre-Trib Rapture

Revelation Chapters 6 thru 11 are the Tribulation that Jesus spoke of.

It's not wrath.

.

Here's a quick look at deaths in Revelation in sequence. I may have missed one or two.


1. 2nd Seal - red horse - men will kill one another

Revelation 6:4 And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword.


2. 4th Seal - pale horse - 1/4 of the earth

Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.


3. 3rd trumpet - many die from "bitter waters" caused by wormwood.

Revelation 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.


4. 6th trumpet - 1/3 of all men

Revelation 9

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.



5. Those who don't worship the image of the beast will be killed

Revelation 13:15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

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Hopefully only those that believe in this and preach it will receive it.

It is said that each is judged by his own beliefs.
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Hopefully only those that believe in this and preach it will receive it.

It is said that each is judged by his own beliefs.
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Thread: Fear Not - Endure Until the End - Post-Trib Rapture - KJV Bible Study

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RAPTURE FAILS 2024

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What if Jesus does rescue us

and not you?

What then?
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Why do you insist so much?

Where will you be?

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Will you die for your faith in Jesus?
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RAPTURE FAILS 2024

Its not even the end of Feb and these retards have already publickly lied in Gods name six times.

Satanoc scum.

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OP.....could have been a good thread. You are correct, the rapture is a myth, an error. Jesus is coming back in the body and that's it.

You really need to get a blue name and ban Acs from your posts. Crazy stalkers on this one.
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we're two years away from the end of false great tribulation and the two witnesses of satan haven't showed up, meaning, satan has failed to steal the earth. real great tribulation is coming up pretty soon. rapture means to seize by violence, that's fourth and fifth seals and those haven't happened yet.

how can you tell false great tribulation, ie satan going first is almost over? the bowls the angels pour out onto the sun in revelation, that word was orignally vials. the covid19 vaccine was given out by vials, ie false great tribulation. the more you know.
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OP.....could have been a good thread. You are correct, the rapture is a myth, an error. Jesus is coming back in the body and that's it.

You really need to get a blue name and ban Acs from your posts. Crazy stalkers on this one.
 Quoting: Prayandprepare

I had a blue name - but certain folks don't like me.

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Revelation 20 states there are only 2 End Times Resurrection, the First is after Satan is bound, which would be After the Tribulation. This is ultimate proof that there isn't a Pre-Trib Rapture.

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Thread: Revelation 20 - Rapture / First Resurrection Happens After Satan is Bound - KJV Bible Study

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There's no Pre-Trib Rapture

A. The Resurrection / Rapture happen AFTER Satan is bound
- Revelation 20:1-6

B. The Rapture happens AFTER the Resurrection
- Revelation 11:18, 1 Corinthians 15:52 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

C. which is is AFTER Jesus Returns
- Revelation 11:15 and Matthew 24:31

D. which is AFTER The Last Trump
- Revelation 11:15, 1 Corinthians 15:52, Matthew 24:31 and 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

E. which is AFTER the Tribulation
- Revelation 11:15 and Matthew 24:29

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WTmcF?

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we're two years away from the end of false great tribulation and the two witnesses of satan haven't showed up, meaning, satan has failed to steal the earth. real great tribulation is coming up pretty soon. rapture means to seize by violence, that's fourth and fifth seals and those haven't happened yet.

how can you tell false great tribulation, ie satan going first is almost over? the bowls the angels pour out onto the sun in revelation, that word was orignally vials. the covid19 vaccine was given out by vials, ie false great tribulation. the more you know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86862184

Take a look at the rise of violent crime in the USA and around world...

Revelation 6

3 And when he had opened the second
seal
, I heard the second beast say, Come
and see.

4 And there went out another horse that
was red: and power was given to him that
sat thereon to take peace from the earth ,
and that they should kill one another:
and there was given unto him a great sword.


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Waste of my time thread.
Two words OP - study harder.
You think you have it all figured out, but you do err
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Waste of my time thread. Two words OP - study harder.
You think you have it all figured out, but you do err
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So typical of you haters. You bash me and what I state yet you fail to offer any scripture-related evidence for whatever you might claim.

pfffft

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we're two years away from the end of false great tribulation and the two witnesses of satan haven't showed up, meaning, satan has failed to steal the earth. real great tribulation is coming up pretty soon. rapture means to seize by violence, that's fourth and fifth seals and those haven't happened yet.

how can you tell false great tribulation, ie satan going first is almost over? the bowls the angels pour out onto the sun in revelation, that word was orignally vials. the covid19 vaccine was given out by vials, ie false great tribulation. the more you know.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 86862184


I dont know about you, but I've gone through far too many tribulations already to go through a more intense tribulation period. I personally already feel like I'm in it and coming out of it, now. I'm finally starting to see light at the end of the tunnel after 5 years of sheer agony and pain ranging from family members dying, loss of my career, etc. Things are finally starting to look better. I can't really comprehend going through much worse, and/or again.
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There’s many fake Christians that have their own imaginary version of the Bible. In which they automatically think they are worthy of being saved without even being tested by the tribulations.

Even Jesus was tested. Yet tards think they are better and don’t need to be tested.
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What if Jesus does rescue us

and not you? What then?
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Won't happen.

Only Paul mentions the translation of living people - and says nothing about being BEFORE the Tribulation.

The Resurrection is the Main Event after Christ Returns.

Thread: The Resurrection is the Main Event - Not the Rapture - Revelation / End Times

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Noah and his family escaped God's Wrath.

Lot and his family escaped God's Wrath.

The Israelites were protected from God's judgements of Egypt.

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Enoch wasn't escaping Tribulation.

Elijah wasn't escaping Tribulation.

When Jesus ascended He wasn't escaping Tribulation.

No Christian has escaped Tribulation nor Wrath by being taken to Heaven.

Yet you Pre -Trib folks think think that End Times Christians somehow deserve to miss Tribulation.

Unreal.

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When the Pre-Trib Rapture doesn't happen, a Believer will act in one of 3 main ways.

1. Say "oh well, I guess the pastor was wrong".

2. Say "oh well, it looks like the Bible was wrong".

3. They will scream at Jesus and God for being "liars", and then deny them both.

Which one will you be, and which one will your loved ones be?

How many people's Faith hinge on escaping the Tribulation via a Pre-Trib Rapture?

How many millions of Christians will lose their Faith - even curse and blaspheme at Father God and Jesus - when the false Pre-Trib Rapture doesn't happen?

Questions to consider.

How many people's Faith hinge on escaping the Tribulation via a Pre-Trib Rapture?

How Many Believers Will Deny Jesus When Pre-Trib Rapture Doesn't Happen?

How many millions of Christians will lose their Faith - even curse and blaspheme at Father God and Jesus - when the false Pre-Trib Rapture doesn't happen?

I pray you and your loved ones will keep your Faith during the Tribulation.

It will be part of the great falling away / apostasy that will happen just before the Mark of the Beast.

The hour of trial / temptation.


Revelation 3:10 Because thou hast kept
the word of my patience,

I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation,

which shall come upon all the world,

to try them that dwell upon the earth.



Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will

I make a pillar in the temple of my God

and he shall go no more out: and I will write

upon him the name of my God


and the name of the city of my God

which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of

heaven from my God and I will write upon

him my new name


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Face facts, folks...

8th April 2024 = First day of the 7 years of Tribulation
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The abomination of Desolation first has to happen. Not before then. P
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Says who?

The son of perdition (Revelation 13) only gets 3 1/2 years to ravage humans. That matches the 3 1/2 years that the Two Witnesses preach in Revelation 11.

Christ Returns at Revelation 11:15 and the First Resurren and Rapture follow at Revelation 11:18.

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