Judas

This was written in the Old Testament.

Zechariah 11:12-13 (KJV) And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
And the LORD said unto me, Cast it unto the potter: a goodly price that I was prised at of them. And I took the thirty pieces of silver, and cast them to the potter in the house of the LORD.



Judas did not buy it. It was to be fulfilled after he died. Where he died. Judas had no idea what was happening. He just kiled himself. The scribes clearly nade the choice to purchase the field WITH the 30 pieces.

Matthew 27:8-9 (KJV) Wherefore that field was called, The field of blood, unto this day.
Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value;

Acts 1:19-20 (KJV) And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood.
For it is written in the book of PSALMS, Let his habitation be desolate, and let no man dwell therein: and his bishoprick let another take.

We will move on from this topic with your assumption that there is a contradiction.... You lose this one.

Where is there a contradiction with the gospels?

Also Matthew doesnt say the priests bought the field where the man hanged himself, but Acts makes the point that where the man was gutted that is the reason why the field is called the field of blood.

I understand what you are saying.. Lets just go with the Bible and agree he hung himself.

If anybody hangs long enough they will split open.

All I am saying is the counsel made the choice to purchase and name the field because the money was no good in the treasurary. The in fact in Matthew.

I believe there to be no contradictions in a true Bible

Can i believe in Jesus and hate the bible?

Where? They all contradict, i dont know these by head, i have to look them up, heres the first couple.

Mar 6:8  And commanded them that they should take nothing for their journey, save a staff only; no scrip, no bread, no money in their purse: 
Mar 6:9  But be shod with sandals; and not put on two coats. 

Mark says start your journey, bring nothing but a staff.

Mat 10:9  Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses, 
Mat 10:10  Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat. 

Matthew says nothing not even a staff, this is the tip of the iceberg, can do an whole study on these alone.

I think you can but other people will tell you otherwise, Bryan from Buffalo says you can too.



This guy says you will be too busy reading the pages to walk in the Spirit.

Verse 8 in Matthew 27 says the COUNSEL BOUGHT THE POTTER'S FIELD AND CALLED IT THE FIELD OF BLOOD. because it was PURCHASED with BLOOD money.it has NOTHING to do with guts. The prophecy was to do with the blood money. Acts is talki g about the same FIELD OF BLOOD, OBVIOUSLY

Matthew 27:6-7 (KJV) And the chief priests took the silver pieces, and said, It is not lawful for to put them into the treasury, because it is the price of blood.

And THEY took counsel, and BOUGHT with them the potter's field, to bury strangers in.

Matthew 27:8 (KJV) Wherefore that field was called, The FIELD OF BLOOD, unto this day.

Mat 12:30  He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 

Mar 9:40  For he that is not against us is on our part. 

Heres another one, Mark says he that is not with me is against me, Mark says the opposite, he that is not against us is with us.

According to Matthew fence sitters are casted out, according to Mark they are brought in.

I will respond after reading it over.

You do understand that the gospels are 4 different vantage points, right?

Just like Matthew added the extra angle to show you how judas could have purchased the field of blood THROUGH the scribes counsel AFTER his death.

Now I see that you do not believe and are only here to undermine people's faith. Ypu should hope there is no he'll.

Matthew is talking about the blood of Jesus, thats what the 30 pieces of silver bought, the price of blood, Acts talks about the blood of Judas that gushed out.

Act 1:18  Now this man purchased a field with the reward of iniquity; and falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all his bowels gushed out. 
Act 1:19  And it was known unto all the dwellers at Jerusalem; insomuch as that field is called in their proper tongue, Aceldama, that is to say, The field of blood. 

Like i said.

Times are changing.

They cannot handle the truth.

If you believe Jesus or God is going to fly down to earth and change our world you are a fool.

Matthew 12:30 (KJV) He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Mark 9:40 (KJV) For he that is not against us is on our part.

Matthew says the person who is not WITH Jesus is against Jesus. Simple.

Mark says he that is against Us (Jesus) is on our side.

It is = it means the same thing.

Do you know what second coming is?

Correction

Mark says he that is NOT against Us (Jesus) is on our side.


The negatives get confusing I understand that.

Bible tards in action.

FUCK OFF!!!

More like 4 gospels 4 Christs, also no desert trial in John and the ministry starts at the baptism in the Jordan river where Peter finds Jesus instead of Jesus finding Peter fishing at Galilee which backs up the actual storylines of Daniel, Michael and the kings of Persia dismantling Babylon, Peter and Paul converting Rome, and the priests and the watchers installing Caesar at Alexandria, not the all powerful devil for the desert trial, also fishers of men story is the opposite of the narrow gate passage story telling line, nets so full of fish that the nets break and the boats sank.

Theres no confusion, they agree thres no neutrality, Matthew says neutrals are casted out, Mark says neutrals are brought in.

Joh 5:31  If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. 

Joh 8:14  Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go. 

An example of contradictions in the same gospel, if i bear witness of myself, my witness is not true, thought i bear record of myself, yet my record is true.

If judas asked for forgiveness like Peter did he'd be a saint today...

...after 3 years on the road with Jesus and his forgiveness message he still despaired, and took his own life.

how exactly? You want to rape, murder, steal etc.... but you cant because the bible is controlling you somehow?

or is that the bible points out things that are unacceptable to GOD, and has consequences for bad choices made?

I'd love to hear an example of how the bible is controlling you, what it is keeping you from doing......

What?

‭Matthew 12:30 CEV‬
[30] If you are not on my side, you are against me. If you don't gather in the harvest with me, you scatter it.

‭Mark 9:40 CEV‬
[40] Anyone who isn't against us is for us.

This is the dumbed down version.. Can you understand this?

There is no error.

Do you know the origin of the name 'stubbs' and it's connection first to Staffordshire and then Yorkshire, and then the Templar knights. The heraldry is a peach. Black and yellow. Family motto ; cedant arma labori = let arms yield to split inheritance. Split creates an opening.

Gate from the Saxon 'gat'. It means the eye of a needle also Norse, also frisian. The German 'gasse' - money collected from the sale of tickets (stubbs).

The Hebrew Mem. Mem is believed to derive from the Egyptian hieroglyphic symbol for water, which had been simplified by the Phoenicians and named after their word for "water", mem, ultimately coming from Proto-Semitic *may-.

The letter mem is the thirteenth letter of the alef-beis.

There are two forms of the mem: the open mem and the closed mem. As the Talmud explains,1 the open mem represents the revealed Torah and the closed mem represents the Torah’s secrets.

Meaning: 1. Water 2. Mashiach
Numerological value: 40. (Days and nights)

Mikveh.

What is memory?

Have you ever seen a depiction of breath, which is 3 fold, in the form a trident, the inverse being death. The trident upholding the living waters, the undercurrent represented as red and blue, the waves as yellow and green, shining. The undercurrent being the subconscious, the waves being consciousness. There is an X off to the side, catching the the run-off. The X is the blinding, the bind, the basket of light collecting the refuse. The run off seeps back into the groundwater to be purified before it returns to the river of life. Right to left.

A Jellicle cat. Memory, all alone in the moonlight. It's a wonderful song. Reflection on and of the water.

Judas could be held as an equivalent to Snape. Snape was a hero, not without faults. Masters paint with broad brushes.

It's the literalism that is a misunderstanding itself, not to say it didn't happen, what I mean is, people often mistake the teaching for the lesson.

Jesus walking on the what now?

We are droplets of memory within a greater sea of memory.

All is memorial. Or if you'd prefer, Holy.

Straight lines can't occur without a curve.



El-bow. Good,isn't it?

It's a real long read, I know, but it was worth it wasn't it.

"Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone
If your time to you is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone"

John 5:31, 34 (KJV) If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
But I receive not testimony from man: but these things I say, that ye might be saved.

Jesus' witness is God the Father so he cant prove it to the willingly unbelieving.

To carnal man he is not true and not witness.



John 8:14 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto them, Though I bear record of myself, yet my record is true: for I know whence I came, and whither I go; but ye cannot tell whence I come, and whither I go.

Now he explains that he is true because he knows where he came from.

To himself it is true and he is witness.

You are throwing everything and the kitchen sink.. Look the Gospels are not sequenced exactly alike. They can't because they have 4 different views. It also would serve no purpose as it would be redundant.

Ie john 2 has the story of Jesus and water and wine. Nobody else talks about it. That is not called a contradiction.

John starts that way because it was for us to know the importance of john the baptist. These are not contradictions. You are reaching because you hate the GOD of the BIBLE.

That Isaiah's passage is probably why the Acts of Peter and the Gospel of Thomas are thrown out and recalled back in again when convenient.

Acts of Peter 37-38
I beseech you the executioners, crucify me thus, with the head downward and not otherwise: and the reason wherefore, I will tell unto them that hear.
He, then, being pulled down -who also cast his first state down upon the earth- established this whole disposition of all things, being hanged up an image of the creation wherein he made the things of the right hand into left hand and the left hand into right hand, and changed about all the marks of their nature, so that he thought those things that were not fair to be fair, and those that were in truth evil, to be good. Concerning which the Lord saith in a mystery: Unless ye make the things of the right hand as those of the left, and those of the left as those of the right, and those that are above as those below, and those that are behind as those that are before, ye shall not have knowledge of the kingdom.

Unless you turn things inside out and upside down you will not have knowledge of the kingdom meaning you are cast away, an outcast.

Gospel of Thomas 22
1 Jesus saw some babies nursing.
2 He said to his disciples, "These nursing babies are like those who enter the (Father's) domain."
3 They said to him, "Then shall we enter the (Father's) domain as babies?"

Why babies? Because babies enter the world upside down.

4 Jesus said to them, "When you make the two into one, and when you make the inner like the outer and the outer like the inner, and the upper like the lower, 5 and when you make male and female into a single one, so that the male will not be male nor the female be female, 6when you make eyes in
place of an eye, a hand in place of a hand, a foot in place of a foot, an image in place of an image,
7 then you will enter [the (Father's) domain]."

Now Isaiah saying you have to turn it upside down.

Isa_29:16  Surely your turning of things upside down shall be esteemed as the potter's clay: for shall the work say of him that made it, He made me not? or shall the thing framed say of him that framed it, He had no understanding?

And again.

Isa_24:1  Behold, the LORD maketh the earth empty, and maketh it waste, and turneth it upside down, and scattereth abroad the inhabitants thereof.

More upside down passages.

2Ki_21:13  And I will stretch over Jerusalem the line of Samaria, and the plummet of the house of Ahab: and I will wipe Jerusalem as a man wipeth a dish, wiping it, and turning it upside down.

Psa_146:9  The LORD preserveth the strangers; he relieveth the fatherless and widow: but the way of the wicked he turneth upside down.

Act 17:6  And when they found them not, they drew Jason and certain brethren unto the rulers of the city, crying, These that have turned the world upside down are come hither also; 
Act 17:7  Whom Jason hath received: and these all do contrary to the decrees of Caesar, saying that there is another king, one Jesus.

Now lets see you turning it upside down without contradicting Isaiah 5:20.

I love God.

The bible guys are lost in a point scoring hell.