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Crop circles ... Explain this

 
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How would a person flatten the corn stalks and keep the poppies upright?
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As I walked within the central areas of the formation, I observed many subtle aspects in its construction that were not apparent from the aerial photos. All the laid crop areas were finished to an amazing standard, as if the whole thing had been carefully crafted with nothing harsher than a fine tooth-comb. In various parts of the formation perfectly healthy poppy flowers in full bloom were growing up between the laid wheat stems. This feature gave one the impression that whatever was responsible for the creation of the formation had absolute respect for other living things. It would have been decidedly easier to flatten the entire area, but the delicate poppy flowers were left intact.

The seventy slender pathways were also perplexing. Each one was (approx.) six inches wide and all but one ran perfectly straight, as was no doubt intended. One very odd thing about these paths was the way the wheat had been laid down to create the narrow incisions. Rather than being flattened down to or just above the ground, the plants looked as though they had been laid down very gently with the aid of a swirling wind tube or wave. One could see by peering down any of the paths that the stems were taken from one edge and curled around to rest on the opposite side of the standing crop. It was an intriguing detail that I had never seen before in any of the hundreds of formations I,ve visited.

In all, the Angel was clearly an inspirational and mysterious happening.
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Well lets see.

On Monday the circle is made at which time the only plant laid down is the wheat. Two days later some poppies have started pushing through the now laid down wheat. Now the idiot on the rense site is posting about what he saw three days later and gave no thought to how it happened.
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Well lets see.

On Monday the circle is made at which time the only plant laid down is the wheat. Two days later some poppies have started pushing through the now laid down wheat. Now the idiot on the rense site is posting about what he saw three days later and gave no thought to how it happened.
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Well lets see.

On Monday the circle is made at which time the only plant laid down is the wheat. Two days later some poppies have started pushing through the now laid down wheat. Now the idiot on the rense site is posting about what he saw three days later and gave no thought to how it happened.
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Bent stalks? How did they stand them all up again. Wouldn't the petals be crushed? They wouldn't be beautifully floating in the wind now would they?
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because of lack of sunlight, the puppy flowers didn't even got out of the ground, but when the wheat was bend down, light got to the ground and the poppy flowers could finally emerge. Poppy flowers are almost in every field once the wheat harvested.
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because of lack of sunlight, the puppy flowers didn't even got out of the ground, but when the wheat was bend down, light got to the ground and the poppy flowers could finally emerge. Poppy flowers are almost in every field once the wheat harvested.
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Well I wasn't there to check through the corn for every bent poppy but how about this ...

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How did they make all that perspective art with checks in the fourth down picture. If you go with lazer from outer space I think its thread over.
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Your arguments defending the man-made hypothesis are irrelevant. The point you are missing is that the stalks show no sign of crushing or splintering - a feature that would be inevitable if they were mechanically pressed down with boards and feet. Instead, in genuine crop circles, the stalks are ALL bent at their swollen nodes - a feature that results from superheating of moisture within the cell walls, the high vapour pressure causing nodes to swell up and their shapes to be distorted.
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I'm sure I have a link on that somewhere.
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This is more on the change in the corn structure from William Levengood, a researcher in the seed industry …

‘Changes occur at molecular and cellular levels and include specific changes to the nodal points of wheat and barley stems, which are seen to bend or rupture from the inside outwards. He believes that microwave energy may be involved, which superheats the crops for a fraction of a second affecting the moisture content and causing the plants to soften and fall over, cooling in a horizontal position. This superheating also accounts for the nodal rupturing (these are called ‘expulsion cavities) and the general bending of the nodes – the parts of the plants that store moisture. Furthermore, testing shows that this heat energy (as evidenced by the varying extents of changes observed in the sampled plants) conforms to known patterns of energy distribution, such as Beers Law.

Soil samples also show unusual changes. Crystalline formation and even microscopic nodules (or ‘spherules’) of meteoritic iron, have been found and photographed – perhaps suggesting a strange atmospheric effect at work.’

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[link to www.lovely.clara.net]
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^ biophysics


n 1988 Andrews and Delgado sent plant samples from crop circles, together with controls, to Signalysis laboratory in Stroud, England. The samples were processed by Kenneth and Rosemary Spelman in accordance with a procedure approved in the German Government's "Pharmacopoeia for Homeopathy" for spagyric preparations- a process normally used in the diagnosis of human blood samples. The method allows for the crystalline structure of fluid to be examined under a microscope.

Their results revealed how the irregular pattern in control samples had taken on a strict structuring pattern inside crop circles - energy of some type had changed the plants' crystalline structure. A separate barrage of tests on samples from a crop circle in Argonne, Illinois, by molecular biologist Kevin Folta, even showed that the plant DNA was considerably more degraded than the controls.

After the Spelmans' tantalizing report was published, Pat Delgado was contacted by another interested party, this time from Michigan, hoping to follow up on what the initial UK experiments had started.

Dr. W. C. Levengood is a respected biophysicist. Over the course of his multi-disciplinary career he has conducted investigations into such areas as the effects of solar and cosmic rays on the reproduction of living organisms, and the relationship between ion transport and vigour selection in seeds. In addition to his worldwide reputation he holds six patents and has written fifty peer-reviewed papers.

Levengood's curiosity led him to investigate the possibility of molecular changes in crop circle plants. After thousands of hours of field work and laboratory studies on hundreds of crop circles, as well as controlled man-made scientific experiments and tests on control samples, a series of statistically significant anomalies were detected.

One of the first puzzles Levengood came across concerned the seeds. Seed heads collected from the 1991 Barbury Castle formation appeared normal, until they were compared to control samples and found to be considerably stunted. Contrary to nature, they were also totally devoid of seeds. Yet control samples taken at various distances away from the formation contained seeds as normal. But true to crop circle fashion this was not to be the rule: in other cases where the seeds were present, they were often severely stunted, malformed, lower in weight and/or reduced in size. Levengood attributed this to a premature dehydration of the seeds, their development arrested at the time the crop circle was created.

The critical time for alterations appears to occur early on in the seed's development, the effect becoming less visible relative to the seeds' maturity; when mature, an increase in seed growth occurs.

To see how the seeds reacted when germinated, closely-monitored 14-day laboratory trials were conducted to compare their growth cycle with controls. Levengood noted that the crop circle seeds reacted variably, depending upon the intensity of the crop circle energy as well as the age of the plants when affected.

The results show an inconsistency with natural plant development: in some of the immature plants the seeds failed to germinate; in young plants they did germinate but with grossly depressed development in roots and shoots; plants affected in the late life-cycle by crop circle energy developed in a manner inconsistent with seeds of that species, revealing accelerated germination and increased vigour in the more mature plants, the latter exhibiting a growth rate 40% faster than normal, with a healthier root structure to boot.

But what kind of energy was capable of altering the plants' natural cycle? To find out, Levengood tested a sample of plants in a commercial microwave oven. The results revealed that the closest similarities to crop circle samples- even at the microscopic level- occurred when the plants were subjected to 30 seconds of microwave, not a far cry from the range described by eyewitnesses; evidence of this rapid heating was corroborated by a superficial charring of the plant tissue which left deeper layers unaffected, thereby indicating the brevity of the action.

In his first peer-reviewed paper on crop circles, Anatomical Anomalies in Crop Formation Plants , Dr. Levengood states that "the affected plants have components which suggest the involvement of rapid air movement, ionization, electric fields and transient high temperatures combined with an oxidizing atmosphere. One naturally occurring and organized force incorporating each of these features is an ion plasma vortex, one very high energy example being a lightning charge."
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The most telling clue of all, pointing towards paranormal origin of (SOME) crop circles:
[link to www.bltresearch.com]
The clay mineral content from the soil INSIDE a crop circle found in Edmonton, Alberta showed an abnormally high level of crystallisation. Dr Robert C. Reynolds at Washington University, a world's leading expert of crystallisation of clays, said that the only way this could have happened is either application of very high pressure (which would have flattened and completely destroyed the crops) or temperatures 600-800 degree centigrade applied for several hours (which would have reduced the crop to cinders).
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Also from the site ... there is a time factor to it as well. Particles, atoms and time.



It must be kept in mind that this increase in degree of crystallization (greater ordering of the atoms) in clay minerals has not been documented in surface soils before. Such changes are typically seen in sedimentary rock which has been exposed--for hundreds, if not thousands, of years--to both heat from the earth's core and the massive pressure of tons of overlying rock. If such a change were to be demonstrated (with statistical significance) in surface soils in an in-depth study at crop circle sites, it would certainly inspire increased academic interest in the causative mechanism behind the crop circle phenomenon.
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Well lets see.

On Monday the circle is made at which time the only plant laid down is the wheat. Two days later some poppies have started pushing through the now laid down wheat. Now the idiot on the rense site is posting about what he saw three days later and gave no thought to how it happened.
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Maybe it was 'nitrogen plus' that pushed through the poppies.
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Well lets see.

On Monday the circle is made at which time the only plant laid down is the wheat. Two days later some poppies have started pushing through the now laid down wheat. Now the idiot on the rense site is posting about what he saw three days later and gave no thought to how it happened.
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nah, poppies have to stand there awhile to get ready to bloom, they are not one of the spring up and bloom in 3 days kind, seriously, they have those opium pods remember? those take time there bubba.
that being said, the angel, magog one is awesome, not man made. there is a circle late last month that is simply the circle and disc looking part of the angel. maybe i will find it and post.
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[link to www.cropcircleconnector.com]

this one was made june26/08. anyone know the exact date in july the angel was discovered?
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Crop circles are a clever deception to entice and enchant and prepare us.. be warned..

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]
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I believe you. :) There is much compelling evidence regarding crop circles.
And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music.
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07/04/2008 10:28 AM
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You believe in the something, yet still argue over nothing.

Ever wonder why there is such a communication problem, nobody ever listen to the other because you think your thoughts are different somehow.
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Well lets see.

On Monday the circle is made at which time the only plant laid down is the wheat. Two days later some poppies have started pushing through the now laid down wheat. Now the idiot on the rense site is posting about what he saw three days later and gave no thought to how it happened.
nah, poppies have to stand there awhile to get ready to bloom, they are not one of the spring up and bloom in 3 days kind, seriously, they have those opium pods remember? those take time there bubba.
that being said, the angel, magog one is awesome, not man made. there is a circle late last month that is simply the circle and disc looking part of the angel. maybe i will find it and post.
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It was July 25th 2001. Look how it resembles the comet that smashed into Jupiter.

[link to www.cropcircleanswers.com]
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Crop circles are a clever deception to entice and enchant and prepare us.. be warned..

[link to www.thebeloveddisciple.org]
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That site doesnt say anything about crop circles. It just goes on about 'innards' :yuk:
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You believe in the something, yet still argue over nothing.

Ever wonder why there is such a communication problem, nobody ever listen to the other because you think your thoughts are different somehow.
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We are sharing information. We aren't arguing.
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Have you considered possibility that what is happening in universe at present may be presenting itself to you in your crop circles, perhaps it is say a sequence and your being shown it. perhaps that one called angel is say a alignment to happen or has happens perhaps later it will be understood properly.

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Well lets see.

On Monday the circle is made at which time the only plant laid down is the wheat. Two days later some poppies have started pushing through the now laid down wheat. Now the idiot on the rense site is posting about what he saw three days later and gave no thought to how it happened.
nah, poppies have to stand there awhile to get ready to bloom, they are not one of the spring up and bloom in 3 days kind, seriously, they have those opium pods remember? those take time there bubba.
that being said, the angel, magog one is awesome, not man made. there is a circle late last month that is simply the circle and disc looking part of the angel. maybe i will find it and post.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 461808


What I'm thinking about is that some kind of alteration to the soil could have made the poppies superpopies. Its only a theory.
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Either way its a miracle.

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