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Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??

 
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Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Nice suburbia here. Now there are cameras installed on traffic lights in many intersections.
Suppose you start passing thru the intersection making a left turn behind a trailer truck WHILE light is STILL green BUT the truck is slow and you are stuck behind and the light turns yellow...and then red...the truck goes thru while yellow but you go thru as it turns red. You are screwed. Camera reads your lisence number and you get the ticket in the mail. This scenario can play multiple times in many intersections over and over. If you stay behind, "to play it safe", then impatient asses behind you will wander why the hell you are not moving forward. So you are trapped and the local revenues go up. Is this what is coming more of???? Say it ain't so.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Those aren't ALWAYS cameras, even though they look just like one! At virtually all major intersections, you'll see a small unit with a lens mounted above the tricolor signal lights. These are actually strobe-sensors which will automatically change the light to allow emergency vehicles top pass through safely. Ever wonder why ambulances all have those bright flashing strobes on their lightbars? That's why.

BTW: any strobe that flashes around 10 cycles will activate those signal-control units... and [of course] you can find easy-to-build plans online to duplicate your own strobe that will work with them. THEY ARE ALSO ILLEGAL IN EVERY U.S. STATE and carry a felony conviction if you get caught using one, or worse if your horseplay results in a traffic accident.

Of course, if you're in the U.K. they are REAL cameras and you're already fucked.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Don't worry it's just the police state being implemented. I'm sure you have nothing to worry about.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
In my town in west coast America, they originally put some large white-cover video surveillance cameras up over a bridge over the river that runs through town. There was a lot of hoopla about it. They installed four cameras and assured everyone it was just to monitor traffic for safety reasons. I think that was about 15 years ago. Today there are cameras everywhere but there has never been another word about it.
Every time they work on a street light or at a traffic intersection for any reason, when they leave there is a big white camera there. Who is putting them there? City? State? Federal? Who is watching? Nobody says a word about it.
Even a local park, which is in the woods, now has big white cameras strung up through the park and the forest trails. What?? It's really disturbing because there is no word about it. This is a pretty small town.

I was recently in Las Vegas and they have white cameras at every intersection - and these are not the kind that take a picture if you go through a red light. These are straight-up white-case high quality video cameras. In Las Vegas I counted as many as twelve per intersection, covering every possible angle of the area.

It's bad enough if they tell everyone that they are now monitoring you and the population out in the open.. But they say nothing, and you can't find out what they are being used for or who exactly is watching them.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
I also noted network cameras all over the city. They're everywhere! Hallways, street corners, bus stops, etc.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Some of the automated traffic light control systems use cameras to monitor the flow of traffic. These are not enforcement devices.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Those aren't ALWAYS cameras, even though they look just like one! At virtually all major intersections, you'll see a small unit with a lens mounted above the tricolor signal lights. These are actually strobe-sensors which will automatically change the light to allow emergency vehicles top pass through safely. Ever wonder why ambulances all have those bright flashing strobes on their lightbars? That's why.

BTW: any strobe that flashes around 10 cycles will activate those signal-control units... and [of course] you can find easy-to-build plans online to duplicate your own strobe that will work with them. THEY ARE ALSO ILLEGAL IN EVERY U.S. STATE and carry a felony conviction if you get caught using one, or worse if your horseplay results in a traffic accident.

Of course, if you're in the U.K. they are REAL cameras and you're already fucked.
 Quoting: gsbltd

Well,these new units seem to be there for other than ambulances. Because, I have not yet seen one at a main intersection near the local county hospital , but I do see them mounted (recently) where traffic is heavy with shoppers and local residents! And right under that particular light they changed the traffic pattern to one lane merge that would easily create a bottle neck and generate more tickes, more $$, without even a cop in sight. Is it my imagination or is there something to this design?
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Some of the automated traffic light control systems use cameras to monitor the flow of traffic. These are not enforcement devices.
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I'm sorry but they are not there to monitor traffic. WAKE UP AMERICA this very quickly becoming a police state with total surveillance. Are you not going to see this intill they actually install one in your home?
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
quit speeding..
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In arizona, the governor includes funds from camera speeding tickets and red light tickets, etc., as part of the BUDGET. Jeez. We're are nothing but dollar cows to be milked by these leeches.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
well duh- they have been ubiquitous for years.......
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
In my home town we have these set up at 4 different intersections that I am aware of.

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07/10/2008 10:11 PM
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
They are at every intersection in Arizona. They aren't for tickets either. I think they are linked to the fusion centers currently being implemented by Homeland Security across the nation.

Face recognition and license plate recognition. Police state stuff for sure.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
In my home town we have these set up at 4 different intersections that I am aware of.

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In my home town we have these set up at 4 different intersections that I am aware of.


Thanks for the link, AC! That's what I am talking about!. And you don't have to be speeding, just entering the intersection during a red light, which as I posted originally, can happen if the vehicle in front of you slows down, delaying your crossing. I can see someone at the other end with a cigar, laughing muaha
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Keep tabs on where the cameras are...If you have to get somewhere in a heavily surveilled area, find the route with the least cameras.

And don't give me that " If you're not breaking the law, you'll be okay" crap...Dirty tricks for revenue have been around for a long time.....Ever have a dirty cop break your tail-light just to give you a ticket? I have!
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
There is a whole lot more about it here , if anyone is interested. I have a feeling we will hear more about this int the coming months. I hope I am wrong.

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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
your just finding out about the cameras???
every time i cross the street and the light changes i give it the finger.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
it's easy money for the city..it's also not fair cause you cant take the camera to court..hehe



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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Some of the automated traffic light control systems use cameras to monitor the flow of traffic. These are not enforcement devices.

I'm sorry but they are not there to monitor traffic. WAKE UP AMERICA this very quickly becoming a police state with total surveillance. Are you not going to see this intill they actually install one in your home?
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Don't you get it....the televisions have cameras in them and soon the monitors. It is total surveillance.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Some of the automated traffic light control systems use cameras to monitor the flow of traffic. These are not enforcement devices.

I'm sorry but they are not there to monitor traffic. WAKE UP AMERICA this very quickly becoming a police state with total surveillance. Are you not going to see this intill they actually install one in your home?
 Quoting: Reality is BS


Don't you get it....the televisions have cameras in them and soon the monitors. It is total surveillance.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Some of the automated traffic light control systems use cameras to monitor the flow of traffic. These are not enforcement devices.

I'm sorry but they are not there to monitor traffic. WAKE UP AMERICA this very quickly becoming a police state with total surveillance. Are you not going to see this intill they actually install one in your home?
 Quoting: Reality is BS


Don't you get it....the televisions have cameras in them and soon the monitors. It is total surveillance.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
Hey guys, guess what? The money made from those cameras when used to issue traffic tickets isn't going just to the U.S. government. It's going to the foreign companies that make the red light cameras.
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07/10/2008 11:53 PM
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
There is a certain high level group that is running the cameras (NWO types)...they are there for the future broadcasting of the meltdown of society in America. It will be a new set of "pure deadly violence" channels on cable/satelitte TV in the near future, in certain over-seas countries (and free in US NWO bunkers). "The revolution WILL be televised" (and watched by some sick demented sadistic people). My friend who's sister is half cousins with someone who knows a friend of a mega-top-secret source of this information says there will be different "packages" available, "city"-"state"-"region"-"continental 48". The "city" package is the cheapest and obviously the "continental 48" is the big dog full coast to coast solid gold package. If the SHTF (and I mean a real war here on US soil) take ALL those cameras out quick, marksmen and sharp-shooters alike, those are your 1st targets. blink (lol)

I wouldn't worry about them for just revenue development reasons (traffic fines), hope that sets you at ease.


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night falls:
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
my question is, what is the most effective way to dispose of one?
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It's called trading freedom for security.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
try and do a search for this topic.. all you will get is "red light cameras"

the net is flooded with people bitching about them all topics brought up about the white surveillance cameras turn into a conversation about the red light cameras.. WTF

SOMEONE DOESNT WANT US TALKING ABOUT THE WHITE SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS!!!!

Who paid for them? Who watches and records from them?

Are we headed to a London style camera society?

Facial recognition?

Anyone have any answers?
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my question is, what is the most effective way to dispose of one?
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See above your post. duh
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
WOW!
THANKS for opening my eyes, folks - I had no idea that rampant surveillance had progressed so much here in the U.S.; oh, I'd expect it in a 24-place like Las Vegas.. but, from your descriptions it is spreading like a plague. Here in Wichita KS I honestly haven't noticed a proliferation of intersection cameras, but I can guarantee I'll start paying more attention.
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Re: Cameras on traffic lights all over! What is happening??
"my question is, what is the most effective way to dispose of one?"

If you mean "dispose" as "taking them out", the BEST possible way is to find an extremely ugly side-kick and a large wooden folding ladder. Have the ugly person look directly into the lens from about 3-4 feet away. If your ugly side-kick is either shot on a mission or just so dammmmm ugly that you have trouble eating when getting back to your "camp", have an artist create a very life-like portrait ahead of time just in case. I would recommend a photograph of them would be better, but they will break your camera in the attempt...if they don't, they will be ineffective on the other NWO cameras. Nail the "ugly-portrait" to a long stick and again hold it about 3-4 feet from the lens, that should break it almost instantly. anon

Another method might involve rifles plinking them until there are only a few wires left up there...but I wouldn't know about that.


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[link to www.youtube.com]

This vid is just about the public stance, and how the burden of proof falls on the city in the courtroom. Apparently, if they cannot produce a facial photo of the driver, then they cannot ticket the licensed owner of the vehicle.

I believe there was some recent controversy about some city caught rigging the lights in the attempts at pulling in projected quotas. I read the article online but I'm having problems locating it.
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