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Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank says US should STOP arresting responsible marijuana smokers. (100 grams {1/4 lb} would be OK to carry)

 
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Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank says US should STOP arresting responsible marijuana smokers. (100 grams {1/4 lb} would be OK to carry)
Legislators aim to snuff out penalties for pot use

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The U.S. should stop arresting responsible marijuana users, Rep. Barney Frank said Wednesday, announcing a proposal to end federal penalties for Americans carrying fewer than 100 grams, almost a quarter-pound, of the substance.


The U.S. should stop arresting responsible marijuana users, Rep. Barney Frank said Wednesday, announcing a proposal to end federal penalties for Americans carrying fewer than 100 grams, almost a quarter-pound, of the substance.


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The Drug Enforcement Administration says people charged with simple possession are rarely incarcerated. The agency and the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy have long opposed marijuana legalization, for medical purposes or otherwise.

Marijuana is a Schedule I controlled substance, meaning it has a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use, according to the drug control office.

"Smoked marijuana has not withstood the rigors of science -- it is not medicine and it is not safe," the DEA states on its Web site. "Legalization of marijuana, no matter how it begins, will come at the expense of our children and public safety. It will create dependency and treatment issues, and open the door to use of other drugs, impaired health, delinquent behavior, and drugged drivers."

Allen St. Pierre, spokesman for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, likened Frank's proposal -- co-sponsored by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas -- to current laws dealing with alcohol consumption. Alcohol use is permitted, and the government focuses its law enforcement efforts on those who abuse alcohol or drive under its influence, he said.

"We do not arrest and jail responsible alcohol drinkers," he said.

St. Pierre said there are tens of millions of marijuana smokers in the United States, including himself, and hundreds of thousands are arrested each year for medical or personal use. iReport.com: Is it time to legalize pot?

There have been 20 million marijuana-related arrests since 1965, he said, and 11 million since 1990, and "every 38 seconds, a marijuana smoker is arrested."

Rob Kampia, director of the Marijuana Policy Project, said marijuana arrests outnumber arrests for "all violent crimes combined," meaning police are spending inordinate amounts of time chasing nonviolent criminals.

"Ending arrests is the key to marijuana policy reform," he said.

Reps. William Lacy Clay, D-Missouri, and Barbara Lee, D-California, said that in addition to targeting nonviolent offenders, U.S. marijuana laws unfairly target African-Americans.

Clay said he did not condone drug use but opposes using tax dollars to pursue what he feels is an arcane holdover from "a phony war on drugs that is filling up our prisons, especially with people of color."

Too many drug enforcement resources are being dedicated to incarcerating nonviolent drugs users, and not enough is being done to stop the trafficking of narcotics into the United States, he said.

Being arrested is not the American marijuana smoker's only concern, said Bill Piper of the Drug Policy Alliance Network. Those found guilty of marijuana use can lose their jobs, financial aid for college, their food stamp and welfare benefits, or their low-cost housing.

The U.S. stance on marijuana, Piper said, "is one of the most destructive criminal justice policies in America today."

Calling the U.S. policy "inhumane" and "immoral," Lee said she has many constituents who are harassed or arrested for using or cultivating marijuana for medical purposes. California allows medical marijuana use, but the federal government does not, she explained.

House Resolution 5843, titled the Personal Use of Marijuana by Responsible Adults Act of 2008, would express support for "a very small number of individuals" suffering from chronic pain or illness to smoke marijuana with impunity.

According to NORML, marijuana can be used to treat a range of illnesses, including glaucoma, asthma, multiple sclerosis, HIV/AIDS and seizures.

Frank, who is chairman of the Financial Services Committee, said that about a dozen states have approved some degree of medical marijuana use and that the federal government should stop devoting resources to arresting people who are complying with their states' laws.

In a shot at Republicans, Frank said it was strange that those who support limited government want to criminalize marijuana.

Asked whether the resolution's passage would change his personal behavior, Frank quipped, "I do obey every law I vote for" but quickly said he did not use marijuana, nor does he encourage it.

"I smoke cigars. I don't think other people should do that. If young people ask me, I would advise them not to do it," he said.

If HR 5843 were passed, the House would support marijuana smokers possessing up to 100 grams -- about 3½ ounces -- of cannabis without being arrested. It would also give its blessing to the "nonprofit transfer" of up to an ounce of marijuana.

The resolution would not address laws forbidding growing, importing or exporting marijuana, or selling it for profit. The resolution also would not speak to state laws regarding marijuana use.
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bonghit b/c it's morning.
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I'm just trying to imaging what it would be like to carry even 1 oz of pot, let alone 3.5 oz.

Life would be better.
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The Drug Enforcement Administration says people charged with simple possession are rarely incarcerated. (That's a lie)

Marijuana is a Schedule I controlled substance, meaning it has a high potential for abuse and no accepted medical use, according to the drug control office. (Another lie)

"Smoked marijuana has not withstood the rigors of science -- it is not medicine and it is not safe," the DEA states on its Web site. "Legalization of marijuana, no matter how it begins, will come at the expense of our children and public safety. It will create dependency and treatment issues, and open the door to use of other drugs, impaired health, delinquent behavior, and drugged drivers."

A case study should be done in Amsterdam where it is legal. I have never heard that there are a bunch of pot crazed addicts running around Denmark spray painting buildings/overpassses and killing people under the influence.

I'm not a pot smoker but have in the past. I've never ever seen anyone addicted, or violent by using pot. Alcohol, very much so, but never pot.

The DEA doesn't want it legalized because it will cut into their profits.
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In a shot at Republicans, Frank said it was strange that those who support limited government want to criminalize marijuana.
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Yeah...showing that the "conservatives" aren't really conservative at ALL.
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In a shot, Barney Frank wanted to legalize homosexual relations with stoned out teenagers, also.
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In a shot, Barney Frank wanted to legalize homosexual relations with stoned out teenagers, also.
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Officially the most poor attempt at humor we'll see on GLP today!

Congrats, moron.
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"Smoked marijuana has not withstood the rigors of science -- it is not medicine and it is not safe," the DEA states on its Web site. "Legalization of marijuana, no matter how it begins, will come at the expense of our children and public safety. It will create dependency and treatment issues, and open the door to use of other drugs, impaired health, delinquent behavior, and drugged drivers."

Allen St. Pierre, spokesman for the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws, likened Frank's proposal -- co-sponsored by Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas -- to current laws dealing with alcohol consumption. Alcohol use is permitted, and the government focuses its law enforcement efforts on those who abuse alcohol or drive under its influence, he said.
 Quoting: markusmaximus

That's fine DEA if we are going to apply that across the board. Sorry folks, most of your prescription drugs wouldn't cut it either. Got to love hypocrites who like to pick and choose.

Alchohol is more addictive, abused, and dangerous.
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where the fuck is anyone going to fit 1/4 pound on them?!?! lol
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where the fuck is anyone going to fit 1/4 pound on them?!?! lol
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Hell, if it's not illegal to carry, you could wear it as a necklace and it would be fine.

Imagine.
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where the fuck is anyone going to fit 1/4 pound on them?!?! lol
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A small dose of sanity…but a long, long way to go.

When will people finally realize that the Country’s problems with drugs is not their use, but rather the criminalization of their use.

If drugs were legalized, the evidence suggest that drug use would not increase. Further, if drugs were decriminalized, the following benefits would be realized:

1. Crimes, including murder and all kinds of theft, would be reduced dramatically. People would feel much safer in their homes and on the streets.

2. The money saved from prosecuting and incarcerating drug users would be used to treat all those who are addicted. There would be no waiting list for treatment, and no stigma attached to such treatment. We would also have additional funds for other things, such as schools, and medical care for the needy.

3. The price of drugs would plummet, and most of the money users currently spend on drugs could be used for their own support or for the support of their families.

4. The terrible toll of human tragedy inflicted upon the drug users and their families would be averted. No longer will families be torn apart; no longer will careers be disrupted or destroyed; no longer will men and women be subjected to the embarrassment and shame of incarceration and a criminal record. And perhaps, just perhaps, police will no longer be seen as a spying enemy.

5. If drugs were legalized, suppliers would compete for business, and the quality of drugs would be one of the primary selling points. This means that safer, less addictive drugs would replace those which are more dangerous. This is a benefit often ignored by those who want to continue the “war on drugs.”

6. GLP would be a much friendlier place!!!
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"6. GLP would be a much friendlier place!!!"

>>No, it would not Fuckface.
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100 grams is too much, and exactly why it won't happen. Perhaps a reasonable amount and it would have stood a chance, instead, this will be laughed off the table.
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I'm just trying to imaging what it would be like to carry even 1 oz of pot, let alone 3.5 oz.

Life would be better.
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I think a QP is 4 oz.
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I'm just trying to imaging what it would be like to carry even 1 oz of pot, let alone 3.5 oz.

Life would be better.


I think a QP is 4 oz.
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at least on the street it is...I've been told.
"You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.

“The war we fight today is more than a military conflict,” Mr Bush said. “It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.”


You are a slave..., like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind."
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100 grams is too much, and exactly why it won't happen. Perhaps a reasonable amount and it would have stood a chance, instead, this will be laughed off the table.
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It's a dried plant. Who the fuck cares how much you carry around?

How much tobacco laced with dangerous chemicals is in a pack?
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100 grams is too much, and exactly why it won't happen. Perhaps a reasonable amount and it would have stood a chance, instead, this will be laughed off the table.

It's a dried plant. Who the fuck cares how much you carry around?

How much tobacco laced with dangerous chemicals is in a pack?
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Yes, but there are too many brainwashed in Congress thinking marijuana will be harmful to everyone.

So a little amount being legalized is more likely as opposed to a quarter pound.

To legalize this, you gotta start small. A dub ($20+ worth) legalized for possession & personal use would probably have a better chance of being reality. It's common sense.

Oh and 1 pound is 16 ounces, so a QP would be 4 ounces - which in fact is a large amount to carry. You'd need a fucking suitcase or backpack or something.

I guess Barney doesn't truly want it to be legalized @ 4 ounces.. but wants it to be discussed @ Congress which, it definitely should be.

I'll be happy with anything that forces progression towards complete legalization of this amazing herb.

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Hemp can be converted to ethanol too efficiently to ever be legalized, IMO.
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From Dirtbag to Dirtbag.

Your brains don't function as they are even straight.
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ah Ah, ah, ah, ahfuckyou! Excuse me. Must be dusty in your post.
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Hemp can be converted to ethanol too efficiently to ever be legalized, IMO.
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actually, a diesel engine can run on hemp seed oil, straight up, without any modifications needed.

that is actually what the diesel motor was originally run on, and what it was intended to be used with.
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Henry Ford's 1941 Hemp Car. Built from primarily hemp fiber, and fueled by hemp-based ethanol.

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Hemp can replace most of what petrochemicals are used for and most of the reason for the prohibition of it.

As well the day they make this change is the day I will be looking for a dime. I dont need much but considering some of the work I do right now it is not a reality.
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100 grams is too much, and exactly why it won't happen. Perhaps a reasonable amount and it would have stood a chance, instead, this will be laughed off the table.
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Translate that into individual cigarettes for me please. Are we talking two, or twenty?
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100 grams is too much, and exactly why it won't happen. Perhaps a reasonable amount and it would have stood a chance, instead, this will be laughed off the table.


Translate that into individual cigarettes for me please. Are we talking two, or twenty?
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Probably closer to 200
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100 grams is too much, and exactly why it won't happen. Perhaps a reasonable amount and it would have stood a chance, instead, this will be laughed off the table.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 476602



why is that too much?


a person is allowed to have hundreds of gallons of alcohol if they wish...


what's wrong with 100 grams of mj?
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100 grams is too much, and exactly why it won't happen. Perhaps a reasonable amount and it would have stood a chance, instead, this will be laughed off the table.


Translate that into individual cigarettes for me please. Are we talking two, or twenty?

Probably closer to 200
 Quoting: Evil Twin



...which amounts to 1 carton.

"The resolution would not address laws forbidding growing, importing or exporting marijuana, or selling it for profit."

So where are we supposed to get it legally? This is just a bullshit, feel-good resolution that doesn't address any questions of how we are supposed to legally obtain the herb. Although it is God-given it's not exactly gonna fall from the sky.
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"so a QP would be 4 ounces - which in fact is a large amount to carry. You'd need a fucking suitcase or backpack or something."

>>A QP isn't that big, bro.
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"so a QP would be 4 ounces - which in fact is a large amount to carry. You'd need a fucking suitcase or backpack or something."

>>A QP isn't that big, bro.
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Nope you can fit it in a sandwich bag if it is compressed mex.
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“The war we fight today is more than a military conflict,” Mr Bush said. “It is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.”


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"Nope you can fit it in a sandwich bag if it is compressed mex."

>>Or a decent freezer bag if it's fluffy sticky-icky!





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