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I have been on only one "felt like zillion" mile wilderness overnight camping trip, and dozens of regular campground type tent trips. I have studied online about gear, have bought some gear, have checked out and read library books, etc. What I really need is personal experience tips from some of you rambo types or others that have been backpack camping or know secrets of survival.
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hehehe...

a good firestarter to have and abundantly free...

dryer lint!

burns hot and quick. make sure you have a big gallon baggie of it.

:)
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hehehe...

a good firestarter to have and abundantly free...

dryer lint!

burns hot and quick. make sure you have a big gallon baggie of it.

:)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 477900

I read that online too. I made up ziplock bags for kindling fire starter. They have 10 popsicle sticks, a few dozen bamboo toothpics, dryer lint, and cotton balls.

I will have vaseline for my lips. I read to put some vaseline on the cotton balls for easy fire start. If I use my homemade kit, I think I could get it going with small twigs, and shavings from larger branches until the larger wood would catch. I read also, to collect peeling bark from birch trees that I passed also.

I ordered an alcohol stove also.
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Re: Need advice for survivalist backpack camping
best quality backpack water filter you can afford.
good tent.
sleeping bag rated for the lowest temps you'll find.
stove.
basic pot/pan/cooking kit.
two knives) one "bowie type" (chopping, slashing) and one pocketknife.
"leatherman" type multitool
small axe/hatchet.
fold up saw or cable saw.
matches in a waterproof container.
lighters.
flint& steel.
high test fishing monofilament (string).
fishing hooks.
compass.


and something to carry it comfortably in.


msr (mountain safety research), north face, kelty, mountain hardware, sierra designs, gerber, cold steel, most r.e.i. and campmor house brand
look for these names
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best quality backpack water filter you can afford.
good tent.
sleeping bag rated for the lowest temps you'll find.
stove.
basic pot/pan/cooking kit.
two knives) one "bowie type" (chopping, slashing) and one pocketknife.
"leatherman" type multitool
small axe/hatchet.
fold up saw or cable saw.
matches in a waterproof container.
lighters.
flint& steel.
high test fishing monofilament (string).
fishing hooks.
compass.


and something to carry it comfortably in.


msr (mountain safety research), north face, kelty, mountain hardware, sierra designs, gerber, cold steel, most r.e.i. and campmor house brand
look for these names
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 477836

I have everything on your list except the sleeping bags and the fishing gear. I am shopping for the bags. I do have a type of yoyo type fishing implement that you string out. I have fished with this type before. I have it all packed up inclluding bait and then some stinky stuff for attractant.
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a good machete can replace your hatchet and also provide you with other utility and self defense
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pack everything in double zip lock quart and gallon (preferred) bags.

Water is always the first issue
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I have ordered a Stratus trail stove for a cook fire, and an alcohol stove to use with it when indicated.

I have a camper solar kit and a WPAI, water pasteurization indicator. I do enjoy solar cooking in my backyard with a cookit. This trail camp cooker is perfect for set up while you are gone on an explore for the day.

My water filter is a MSR miniworks EX microfilter. It is field maintainable and filters up to 2000 liters. It filters at one liter per minute and weighs 16 ounces. I like to use a water camel, so I would be able to replenish it easily via the convenient filter hose.
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pack everything in double zip lock quart and gallon (preferred) bags.

Water is always the first issue
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I have ziploc big bags to line my pack, as well as smaller bags to compartmentalize. I have Dry Sack compression bags too.

I read online about some 65 year old ladies hiking 14 miles a day on a three night trip. I guess it inspired me. I am a couple of decades or more younger, surely I can do it too.
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Think of the hiking trip as lessons....bring a color field guide of edible plants...great way to learn whats edible in your area....I had a guide with a checklist on the back...mark them off as you tasted them....by seeing, touching, and tasting....it makes it much easier to remember and spot in the future....
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Think of the hiking trip as lessons....bring a color field guide of edible plants...great way to learn whats edible in your area....I had a guide with a checklist on the back...mark them off as you tasted them....by seeing, touching, and tasting....it makes it much easier to remember and spot in the future....
 Quoting: dookie stain 317540

I certainly hope that I don't have to survive on wild plants in the coming strife. I love to try to identify plants though. I should force myself to try them.

A month ago, I tried an edible flower on my plate at a fine restaurant, but didn't care for it. The gentleman with whom I was dining didn't try his, no matter how much I cajoled.
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Re: Need advice for survivalist backpack camping
best quality backpack water filter you can afford.
good tent.
sleeping bag rated for the lowest temps you'll find.
stove.
basic pot/pan/cooking kit.
two knives) one "bowie type" (chopping, slashing) and one pocketknife.
"leatherman" type multitool
small axe/hatchet.
fold up saw or cable saw.
matches in a waterproof container.
lighters.
flint& steel.
high test fishing monofilament (string).
fishing hooks.
compass.


and something to carry it comfortably in.


msr (mountain safety research), north face, kelty, mountain hardware, sierra designs, gerber, cold steel, most r.e.i. and campmor house brand
look for these names

I have everything on your list except the sleeping bags and the fishing gear. I am shopping for the bags. I do have a type of yoyo type fishing implement that you string out. I have fished with this type before. I have it all packed up inclluding bait and then some stinky stuff for attractant.
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get a good sleeping bag. on cold, wet nights you will appreciate it if you have to use it. i specifically recommend north face and mountain hardware for sleeping bags. oh yeah, and kelty too. if you can afford it, the north face model known as the "cat's meow" has been widely accepted as the best of the best by serious mtn climbers and expeditionist for decades.

fishing--- i recommended having monofilament for lots of various purposes, not just fishing..... anything you might need string or lashing for. clothesline, tent guy lines, stitching repairs, etc. and modern high tech monofilament fishing line is a tiny little package for 100-'s of yards of really really strong string :) just learn how to knot it properly
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I've spent a year sleeping on the jungle floor-guess that qualifies me a little. Get a gun!!! What kind depends on where your at and what you can handle. There's a fairly good gun thread going on now. Generally speaking a good 20 gauge shotgun isn't too bad of a ladies gun and it has pretty decent stopping power. For rifles if you don't want to spend too much, the sks is almost impossable to beat in terms of bang for the buck and reliability. In addition to ammo make sure you get a cleaning kit and understand your weapon!!! Stay away from the mini 14's they don't hold up in harsh environments and may fail when you need it the most. The sks is the real deal. Make sure you have a couple of boxes of hollow point ammo in case you need to hunt. Get some stripper clips (at least 20)-make sure you know how to assemble and disasemble your rifle-keep the bayonet! I would keep the original wood (you may want a bottle of Tru-Oil for your gun stock. Buy a decent amount of ammo-a box of 7.62X39 (20 rounds)runs about $4.69 at Cheaper Than Dirt. Inquire about case prices-should be cheaper. You can get stripper clips and ammo pouches on ebay. Also get a good poncho and several canteens. Learn how to start a fire using a bow. Strike anywhere matches-dip them in hot parafin or candle/bees wax. Mosquito netting and or Deep Woods OFF. A lot of good survival vids on youtube- (survivalistblog). Cultivate an attitude of survival-don't let your guard down! Fishing gear and camp near but above water-don't leave trails. Hope this helps!
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oh, and something else that i, at first, thought went without even saying......

but the importance of high quality garments/clothing is as important as the water filter. full gore tex outer garment layer....and lots of duo-fold "long underwear" if you might encounter cold temps, as well as wool and polartec 200/300 midlayer stuff.

boots. good boots, high end vasque, merrill, garneau, lowe alpine, etc. one piece leather. and good socks. thorlo and wigwam. and a pair of lightweight shoes to rest your feet after wearing the heavy, stiff boots
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omg, there is a million things to think of, i don't even know where to start, sounds like you are heading in the right direction though, orienteering and fist aid are high on my list, you got the water and food thought out, its one of those things that you learn something every time you do it, i grew up on a farm and spent most of my life in the woods, still do as much as i can, i joined the local search and rescue team, mostly for the never ending learning, and deals on gear

camping/backpacking is a life style, a commitment to getting closer to nature and not being intrusive, i just love it

a food dehydrator and vacuum sealer are very nice to have, saves a lot of money, plus you can vacuum seal gear/clothes

good luck!
"By way of deception, thou shalt do war."

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omg, there is a million things to think of, i don't even know where to start, sounds like you are heading in the right direction though, orienteering and fist aid are high on my list, you got the water and food thought out, its one of those things that you learn something every time you do it, i grew up on a farm and spent most of my life in the woods, still do as much as i can, i joined the local search and rescue team, mostly for the never ending learning, and deals on gear

camping/backpacking is a life style, a commitment to getting closer to nature and not being intrusive, i just love it

a food dehydrator and vacuum sealer are very nice to have, saves a lot of money, plus you can vacuum seal gear/clothes

good luck!
 Quoting: malu



cheers to this. good person..........



i didn't always appreciate when i younger, but now i do very much appreciate my scout training, i was finally an "eagle" scout before left the scouts as a kid, and all of my now so-called adult life, i love nature and being out in the woods, the "wild". of course, i love my internet, and grocery stores, and bars with hot young ladies :) too..... but it's always good to know how to, and be willing and able to get by, just fine, out in the woods.

even though i am aware that Bear Gryll's show, Man vs. Wild, is mostly staged, it's still fun to watch, and one can learn alot from it, and Survivorman, too, for anyone interested in learning more about living without modern life's conveniences.
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Agreed, Malu...

Where will you be surviving OP? Sometimes it is best to start by reading a military survival manual.

Remember, if you are fleeing an urban area don't listen to all of these rookies with the tent, tarp, sleeping bag, cooking kit, knife, saw, hatchet, water filter, and first aid kits...
Not to say I don't have them, but you won't be playing fucking dungeons and dragons when the shit goes down. All you will need is a good set of synthetic layers depending on your location and a good set of footwear. I always carry a knife.
Run at night and sleep by day. Supplies are everywhere and your situation will dictate what you need. You probably won't begin with cutting much wood and the weight of all of that extra shit will turn you into a crying pansy in a couple hours... You need to train to carry weight across distances. Walk a couple miles everyday with a 30lb pack and see how that goes...

Say, for example, I lived in NYC (glad I don't and I live in the wilderness of northern canada)... I would keep a daypack sized backpack with a water bottle, tazer or gun, synthetic layers for weather changes, a medium sized tarp, some strong nylon guy rope, a badass pair of nike or addidas running shoes, and about 5000 calories worth of junk food. You won't want to eat anything the first few days running, then cheetos and snickers are best.

Anything else will slow you down. Trust me. I don't want to list credentials but I have been on the fleeing side of a search before... I live for the blood of moose and salmon.
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get a good sleeping bag. on cold, wet nights you will appreciate it if you have to use it. i specifically recommend north face and mountain hardware for sleeping bags. oh yeah, and kelty too. if you can afford it, the north face model known as the "cat's meow" has been widely accepted as the best of the best by serious mtn climbers and expeditionist for decades.

fishing--- i recommended having monofilament for lots of various purposes, not just fishing..... anything you might need string or lashing for. clothesline, tent guy lines, stitching repairs, etc. and modern high tech monofilament fishing line is a tiny little package for 100-'s of yards of really really strong string :) just learn how to knot it properly
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 477836


The cat's meow sounds very cozy! I am so glad that you explained about the monofilament line. Where do I go to purchase it. Thank you so much.
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I've spent a year sleeping on the jungle floor-guess that qualifies me a little. Get a gun!!! What kind depends on where your at and what you can handle. There's a fairly good gun thread going on now. Generally speaking a good 20 gauge shotgun isn't too bad of a ladies gun and it has pretty decent stopping power. For rifles if you don't want to spend too much, the sks is almost impossable to beat in terms of bang for the buck and reliability. In addition to ammo make sure you get a cleaning kit and understand your weapon!!! Stay away from the mini 14's they don't hold up in harsh environments and may fail when you need it the most. The sks is the real deal. Make sure you have a couple of boxes of hollow point ammo in case you need to hunt. Get some stripper clips (at least 20)-make sure you know how to assemble and disasemble your rifle-keep the bayonet! I would keep the original wood (you may want a bottle of Tru-Oil for your gun stock. Buy a decent amount of ammo-a box of 7.62X39 (20 rounds)runs about $4.69 at Cheaper Than Dirt. Inquire about case prices-should be cheaper. You can get stripper clips and ammo pouches on ebay. Also get a good poncho and several canteens. Learn how to start a fire using a bow. Strike anywhere matches-dip them in hot parafin or candle/bees wax. Mosquito netting and or Deep Woods OFF. A lot of good survival vids on youtube- (survivalistblog). Cultivate an attitude of survival-don't let your guard down! Fishing gear and camp near but above water-don't leave trails. Hope this helps!
 Quoting: DX 432031

I am excited about working up to a 7 day adventure. I just hope that I get to, before it becomes mandatory. I grew up around hunting. I however, am not much with a weapon. I guess starvation would ensure my aim improved.
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omg, there is a million things to think of, i don't even know where to start, sounds like you are heading in the right direction though, orienteering and fist aid are high on my list, you got the water and food thought out, its one of those things that you learn something every time you do it, i grew up on a farm and spent most of my life in the woods, still do as much as i can, i joined the local search and rescue team, mostly for the never ending learning, and deals on gear

camping/backpacking is a life style, a commitment to getting closer to nature and not being intrusive, i just love it

a food dehydrator and vacuum sealer are very nice to have, saves a lot of money, plus you can vacuum seal gear/clothes

good luck!
 Quoting: malu

Thanks, I have a vacuum sealer and never thought of using it to shrink down my clothes and gear. This is why I posted the thread. I knew my fellow GLP croud would know just about anything.
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oh, and something else that i, at first, thought went without even saying......

but the importance of high quality garments/clothing is as important as the water filter. full gore tex outer garment layer....and lots of duo-fold "long underwear" if you might encounter cold temps, as well as wool and polartec 200/300 midlayer stuff.

boots. good boots, high end vasque, merrill, garneau, lowe alpine, etc. one piece leather. and good socks. thorlo and wigwam. and a pair of lightweight shoes to rest your feet after wearing the heavy, stiff boots
 Quoting: mellokind 477836

I was thinking of skimping on special clothes, but now I will not thanks to your advice.
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I live near a military installation. I bought some of my gear in stores that cater to them. My next trip is in the smokey mountains.


Agreed, Malu...

Where will you be surviving OP? Sometimes it is best to start by reading a military survival manual.

Remember, if you are fleeing an urban area don't listen to all of these rookies with the tent, tarp, sleeping bag, cooking kit, knife, saw, hatchet, water filter, and first aid kits...
Not to say I don't have them, but you won't be playing fucking dungeons and dragons when the shit goes down. All you will need is a good set of synthetic layers depending on your location and a good set of footwear. I always carry a knife.
Run at night and sleep by day. Supplies are everywhere and your situation will dictate what you need. You probably won't begin with cutting much wood and the weight of all of that extra shit will turn you into a crying pansy in a couple hours... You need to train to carry weight across distances. Walk a couple miles everyday with a 30lb pack and see how that goes...

Say, for example, I lived in NYC (glad I don't and I live in the wilderness of northern canada)... I would keep a daypack sized backpack with a water bottle, tazer or gun, synthetic layers for weather changes, a medium sized tarp, some strong nylon guy rope, a badass pair of nike or addidas running shoes, and about 5000 calories worth of junk food. You won't want to eat anything the first few days running, then cheetos and snickers are best.

Anything else will slow you down. Trust me. I don't want to list credentials but I have been on the fleeing side of a search before... I live for the blood of moose and salmon.
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google : complete walker, think there are four editions now, timeless classic, but gear has vastly improved, and like someone said, don't skimp on anything, it will bite you in the arse
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I live in a small town. I understand that survival means staying lean and making do. I hope to have some advance preparations in place before things get too bad. I believe advance placement of supplies along my route in hidden locations is a great idea.

Agreed, Malu...

Where will you be surviving OP? Sometimes it is best to start by reading a military survival manual.

Remember, if you are fleeing an urban area don't listen to all of these rookies with the tent, tarp, sleeping bag, cooking kit, knife, saw, hatchet, water filter, and first aid kits...
Not to say I don't have them, but you won't be playing fucking dungeons and dragons when the shit goes down. All you will need is a good set of synthetic layers depending on your location and a good set of footwear. I always carry a knife.
Run at night and sleep by day. Supplies are everywhere and your situation will dictate what you need. You probably won't begin with cutting much wood and the weight of all of that extra shit will turn you into a crying pansy in a couple hours... You need to train to carry weight across distances. Walk a couple miles everyday with a 30lb pack and see how that goes...

Say, for example, I lived in NYC (glad I don't and I live in the wilderness of northern canada)... I would keep a daypack sized backpack with a water bottle, tazer or gun, synthetic layers for weather changes, a medium sized tarp, some strong nylon guy rope, a badass pair of nike or addidas running shoes, and about 5000 calories worth of junk food. You won't want to eat anything the first few days running, then cheetos and snickers are best.

Anything else will slow you down. Trust me. I don't want to list credentials but I have been on the fleeing side of a search before... I live for the blood of moose and salmon.
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be very careful not to injure yourself - think things through before you do them/

have a back-up water filter - it can be smaller, less fancy than your main model, but you need to realize your life may depend on having a back-up/

tea bags, great for fast easy caffeine/

dental floss is very light and strong and can be used for building lean-to's, for fishing, for tying your food up in a tree/

sunscreen for the first couple of weeks/

citronella for mosquitoes and midges, or deet if you don't mind the chemical aspect/

stop travelling early enough in the day that you have sufficient time to patrol the area for danger, build camp, deal with the water situation, collect firewood and build a fire, cook and eat dinner and clean up, and get settled all before dark/

buy and read the SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman - commonly accepted as the best there is/
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I didn't always appreciate when i younger, but now i do very much appreciate my scout training, i was finally an "eagle" scout before left the scouts as a kid, and all of my now so-called adult life, i love nature and being out in the woods, the "wild". of course, i love my internet, and grocery stores, and bars with hot young ladies :) too..... but it's always good to know how to, and be willing and able to get by, just fine, out in the woods.

even though i am aware that Bear Gryll's show, Man vs. Wild, is mostly staged, it's still fun to watch, and one can learn alot from it, and Survivorman, too, for anyone interested in learning more about living without modern life's conveniences.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 477836


I do believe the experiences of youth change us forever. I spent weekends at a lake front camp as a child. My Dad was a several season hunter and fisherman. There was freedom to roam and explore in the woods. I love fishing. I helped clean fish, plucked feathers from ducks, watched my Dad clean a squirrel (yuk!) etc. I learned how to build a dock, build a fire, and all sorts of woodsy things.
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You don't need all that REI/OUTSIDE magazine overpriced junk, multitools, bowie knives, machetes roflmao .

Alls you need : Clothing in layers, decent boots, pocket of trailmix, gallon jug of water, cheap tube tent, good synthetic fill sleeping bag.

oh yeah, and a hat.
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I wish you would tell me of one of your adventures.

Agreed, Malu...

Where will you be surviving OP? Sometimes it is best to start by reading a military survival manual.

Remember, if you are fleeing an urban area don't listen to all of these rookies with the tent, tarp, sleeping bag, cooking kit, knife, saw, hatchet, water filter, and first aid kits...
Not to say I don't have them, but you won't be playing fucking dungeons and dragons when the shit goes down. All you will need is a good set of synthetic layers depending on your location and a good set of footwear. I always carry a knife.
Run at night and sleep by day. Supplies are everywhere and your situation will dictate what you need. You probably won't begin with cutting much wood and the weight of all of that extra shit will turn you into a crying pansy in a couple hours... You need to train to carry weight across distances. Walk a couple miles everyday with a 30lb pack and see how that goes...

Say, for example, I lived in NYC (glad I don't and I live in the wilderness of northern canada)... I would keep a daypack sized backpack with a water bottle, tazer or gun, synthetic layers for weather changes, a medium sized tarp, some strong nylon guy rope, a badass pair of nike or addidas running shoes, and about 5000 calories worth of junk food. You won't want to eat anything the first few days running, then cheetos and snickers are best.

Anything else will slow you down. Trust me. I don't want to list credentials but I have been on the fleeing side of a search before... I live for the blood of moose and salmon.
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be very careful not to injure yourself - think things through before you do them/

have a back-up water filter - it can be smaller, less fancy than your main model, but you need to realize your life may depend on having a back-up/

tea bags, great for fast easy caffeine/

dental floss is very light and strong and can be used for building lean-to's, for fishing, for tying your food up in a tree/

sunscreen for the first couple of weeks/

citronella for mosquitoes and midges, or deet if you don't mind the chemical aspect/

stop travelling early enough in the day that you have sufficient time to patrol the area for danger, build camp, deal with the water situation, collect firewood and build a fire, cook and eat dinner and clean up, and get settled all before dark/

buy and read the SAS Survival Handbook by John Wiseman - commonly accepted as the best there is/
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 473648


Where is the best areas in the U.S. to stay hidden? I realize you are talking about Canada. I wouldn't know how to survive in that climate.

I understand about traveling at night. How early to stop? Sunrise? How to stay cool enough to sleep in the day and the best place to do this? Do you dig a trench to stay cooler?
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Re: Need advice for survivalist backpack camping
You don't need all that REI/OUTSIDE magazine overpriced junk, multitools, bowie knives, machetes roflmao .

Alls you need : Clothing in layers, decent boots, pocket of trailmix, gallon jug of water, cheap tube tent, good synthetic fill sleeping bag.

oh yeah, and a hat.
 Quoting: Dan'l Boone 473887

I did get a great cloth had with a wide brim.
I loved watching the men making their own alcohol stoves on u-tube. I guess I don't trust myself to do a good enough job. I just purchase things that I know will work. I think tried and true military gear is ok.





GLP