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She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 480158 United States 08/06/2008 11:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony [ link to glennsacks.com] She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony According to a new Missouri Supreme Court ruling, a woman can hire a hit man to try to kill her ex-husband, but he still has to pay her alimony. The Court ruled that “the attempt to murder husband would not establish a 'clear and unequivocal attempt to relinquish her contractual right to maintenance so long as [husband] is living.” From the Family Law Professors Blog [ link to www.courts.mo.gov] entry Case Law Development: Allegations of Wife's Attempted Murder of Husband Do Not State a Claim for Terminating His Maintenance Obligation: [ link to lawprofessors.typepad.com] "The Missouri Supreme Court affirms the dismissal of an ex-husband's petition to terminate maintenance based on his allegations that wife had sought to have him murdered. The couple had agreed to a non-modifiable maintenance term in their divorce decree. The Supreme Court noted that Missouri statutes provide that such an agreement, when found conscionable and incorporated into a divorce decree, binds the court: "A non-modification provision can cut both ways. No one can know which party will need more or deserve less as time passes. As with all contract terms, a non-modification provision is an agreed allocation of future risk, bargained for and for which consideration is exchanged. The Missouri legislature has seen fit to allow such a clause to be elevated from contractual to judicial status by incorporation into the dissolution decree. We are bound to respect the statute and to enforce these documents as agreed to and ordered. "The court rejected husband's argument that a court may reconsider the conscionability of the agreement based on later events. It likewise found that waiver was inapplicable as the attempt to murder husband would not establish a 'clear and unequivocal attempt to relinquish her contractual right to maintenance so long as [husband] is living.' Finally, the court rejected the application of the public policy doctrine which prohibits an individual from receiving death benefits when they have murdered their spouse. Reasoning that wife would not benefit from the successful murder of husband, the court found these cases inapplicable." The opinion can be read here. [ link to www.courts.mo.gov] I have no idea if the husband's claim that his ex-wife hired a hit man to kill him is true--what I find remarkable here is that the Court doesn’t feel that it matters. Wow. And yes, were the genders reversed, the Court would've found some way to prevent a woman from having to pay alimony to the man who tried to kill her. |
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malu
User ID: 476687 United States 08/07/2008 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony that is probably the first news i have heard from Missouri in over a decade "By way of deception, thou shalt do war."
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 5159 United States 08/07/2008 02:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony So? What does one thing,(trying to get him killed), have to do with the other,(alimony)? If he had a problem with the hit man thing, why didn't he file criminal charges? Really, the law makes perfect sense here. Her husband seems very dense-no wonder she wanted to get rid of him. |
Kanigo2
User ID: 442313 United States 08/07/2008 02:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony Hiring a killer is expensive. Have some sympathy. Alt+F4 Allows GodLikeProductions User to Check Current score in Thread Dialog.
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dazed User ID: 50389733 Australia 11/24/2013 07:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony Hiring a killer is expensive.
Have some sympathy.
Quoting: Kanigo2 He had to pay for the privilege too with his alimony. Think of it as an expensive suicide attempt. |
Kirk
User ID: 49863729 United States 11/24/2013 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony So? What does one thing,(trying to get him killed), have to do with the other,(alimony)? If he had a problem with the hit man thing, why didn't he file criminal charges? Really, the law makes perfect sense here. Her husband seems very dense-no wonder she wanted to get rid of him.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5159 citizens cannot file criminal charges. Government is a body largely ungoverned. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16189064 United States 11/24/2013 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony
That's amazing. The fact that a guy even has to pay to "maintain" the wife's standard of living after a divorce just because she's gotten used to living off his generosity blows my mind. It's like if you have a room mate who stops paying for rent or food so you pick up the tab for a while, and then he sues you for damages when you move out and you STILL have to pay his rent. Why any guy would ever get married in the US makes no sense to me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16189064 United States 11/24/2013 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony So? What does one thing,(trying to get him killed), have to do with the other,(alimony)? If he had a problem with the hit man thing, why didn't he file criminal charges? Really, the law makes perfect sense here. Her husband seems very dense-no wonder she wanted to get rid of him.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5159 Why does he owe her a dime in the first place? What did she ever do to earn any of it? American women are parasites. |
Inspired 2
User ID: 50497120 Belgium 11/24/2013 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony So she is saying she doesn't want his money anymore. Fascinating. |
just me User ID: 21409609 United States 11/24/2013 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony
So? What does one thing,(trying to get him killed), have to do with the other,(alimony)? If he had a problem with the hit man thing, why didn't he file criminal charges? Really, the law makes perfect sense here. Her husband seems very dense-no wonder she wanted to get rid of him.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5159 Why does he owe her a dime in the first place? What did she ever do to earn any of it? American women are parasites. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16189064 Just one more reason not to get married......fools all |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40021038 United States 11/24/2013 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony Alimony may occasionally be justified for a while up to the poverty level, but not beyond. Luxuries really are not a legitimate part of an ongoing settlement. Subsistence might be.
The same is true of child support. Percentage of income allocation simply forces guys to become homeless and destitute to start with, since that's their fate regardless of how well they earn money. |
Phillip J. Fry
User ID: 49911340 United States 11/24/2013 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony Did She pay the hitman with the alimony money? .
"Don't do anything that affects anything. Unless it turns out you were supposed to do it, in which case for the love of God. Don't not do it!" |
Inspired 2
User ID: 50497120 Belgium 11/24/2013 09:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony Did She pay the hitman with the alimony money?
Quoting: Phillip J. Fry |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31543670 United States 11/24/2013 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony So she is saying she doesn't want his money anymore. Fascinating. Quoting: Inspired 2 She needed his money to save up and pay the hitman . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31543670 United States 11/24/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony Did She pay the hitman with the alimony money?
Quoting: Phillip J. Fry Lol, oops I didn't read that and posted almost the same response |
Inspired 2
User ID: 50497120 Belgium 11/24/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony
So she is saying she doesn't want his money anymore. Fascinating. Quoting: Inspired 2 She needed his money to save up and pay the hitman . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31543670 So by paying the man committed in fact suicide? Fascinating. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24537691 Canada 11/24/2013 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: She Can Hire a Hit Man to Kill You, but You Still Have to Pay Her Alimony Well someone had to pay the hitman. |
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