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From The Sunday Times
August 17, 2008
Russia’s new nuclear challenge to Europe

Russia is considering arming its Baltic fleet with nuclear warheads for the first time since the cold war, senior military sources warned last night.

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Under the Russian plans, nuclear warheads could be supplied to submarines, cruisers and fighter bombers of the Baltic fleet based in Kaliningrad, a Russian enclave between the European Union countries of Poland and Lithuania. A senior military source in Moscow said the fleet had suffered from underfunding since the collapse of communism. “That will change now,” said the source.

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The warnings came 24 hours after Russia told Poland that it could face a nuclear strike for agreeing to let the United States station components of the missile defence shield on its soil.

The Russian military also said it would ignore attempts to restrict the movement of its Black Sea fleet in and out of Sebastopol, in Ukraine. The Crimean port was emerging as a potential flashpoint in Russia’s efforts to prevent former Soviet countries on its borders from joining Nato.
 Quoting: [link to www.timesonline.co.uk]

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You people have no idea, how bad this really is!!!
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You people have no idea, how bad this really is!!!
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we know. it is called Worldwar III. And hopefully now everybody knows that it is real.

in a few days and weeks the world is a burning hell.
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From The Sunday Times
August 17, 2008
Russia’s new nuclear challenge to Europe

Russia is considering arming its Baltic fleet with nuclear warheads for the first time since the cold war, senior military sources warned last night.

 Quoting: Fescado


You should add "is considering arming" to the thread title. Either way I think this shit is getting out of hand, both sides are acting like its the 80's lol.
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old prophecies of Veronica Lueken ( Bayside Veronica who got her visions from Jesus and Mary so she always told)

regarding russia and how it wants to infiltrate every country and destroy the unwilling ones :

[link to www.tldm.org]

[5] "Do not take lightly the reports of ships out on the sea and submarines. They are there, My child and My children, and they are not out for a joy ride. It is all part of the master plan for the takeover of the United States and Canada."
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From The Sunday Times
August 17, 2008
Russia’s new nuclear challenge to Europe

Russia is considering arming its Baltic fleet with nuclear warheads for the first time since the cold war, senior military sources warned last night.

 Quoting: Fescado




Finally a 3rd world war i have waited so long for this, finally some balance again the rich become poor again and the poor well they can do what they want heh super
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can they wait for the 4 X 100 meters (track & field) realy to finish first...pls.
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Russia is the Bully of the world.
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Russia is the Bully of the world.
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That's BS. Quite the opposite as we have learned in the past years.
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From The Sunday Times
August 17, 2008
Russia’s new nuclear challenge to Europe

Russia is considering arming its Baltic fleet with nuclear warheads for the first time since the cold war, senior military sources warned last night.

[clip]

Under the Russian plans, nuclear warheads could be supplied to submarines, cruisers and fighter bombers of the Baltic fleet based in Kaliningrad, a Russian enclave between the European Union countries of Poland and Lithuania. A senior military source in Moscow said the fleet had suffered from underfunding since the collapse of communism. “That will change now,” said the source.

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The warnings came 24 hours after Russia told Poland that it could face a nuclear strike for agreeing to let the United States station components of the missile defence shield on its soil.

The Russian military also said it would ignore attempts to restrict the movement of its Black Sea fleet in and out of Sebastopol, in Ukraine. The Crimean port was emerging as a potential flashpoint in Russia’s efforts to prevent former Soviet countries on its borders from joining Nato.

 Quoting: Fescado


GOOD NEWS! WW3 IN THE MAKING....WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH FALSE PEACE FOR SO LONG. WE NEED CHAOS SO THAT WE MAY SEE REAL PEACE THERE AFTER. NO REAL WAR NO REAL PEACE!
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You people have no idea, how bad this really is!!!
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Okay, now I'm getting nervous. I was expecting something on the 17th and hoping nothing would happen.
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hiding bump
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From The Sunday Times
August 17, 2008
Russia’s new nuclear challenge to Europe

Russia is considering arming its Baltic fleet with nuclear warheads for the first time since the cold war, senior military sources warned last night.

 Quoting: Fescado


i suppose senior military sources phoned up the sunday times and said
" put this propaganda in today's issue - we need to crank up the tension , pretend it's real news "
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From The Sunday Times
August 17, 2008
Russia’s new nuclear challenge to Europe

Russia is considering arming its Baltic fleet with nuclear warheads for the first time since the cold war, senior military sources warned last night.





Finally a 3rd world war i have waited so long for this, finally some balance again the rich become poor again and the poor well they can do what they want heh super
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 486036

You may want to re-think that. The rich get richer off of the wars they make.
They have the power to create reality

I could explain it better but I would need charts, graphs and an easel.

By the way....which ones pink?
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Yall complain about your government, don't you? Want a revolution, some serious change...I bet secretly people want to overthrow the american govt but dont know how...

Well, maybe russia will do the deed.

Then will you complain?

America would squash Russia, but not before taking some very serious blows upon American cities, first.

A lot of casualties everywhere....in the blink of an eye. We can blow ourselves right out of this solar system.
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Thread title is VERY misleading...
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Any link?
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Any link?
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[link to www.ynetnews.com]
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fuk it!!! we cant do anything but were already in WW3...
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fuk it!!! we cant do anything but were already in WW3...
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Not yet. Still have not gone over the line. Let's hope someone out there has a cooler head and shuts this down.
^^ gravity is a harsh reality. ^^
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Any link?
 Quoting: code 331056



what? you don't see the link its quoted from under the segment?
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fuk it!!! we cant do anything but were already in WW3...


Not yet. Still have not gone over the line. Let's hope someone out there has a cooler head and shuts this down.
 Quoting: deepend


boy i sure hope so hiding
just when things are bad they turn out for the worse, im frightened about whats comin after the olympics...stock market crash etc...and im not sure but a while back they were sending seeds from all over the world to some underground place in Norway for storage...that right there is a clear message that we wont be here much longer...
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door This raises the possibility that they we're never disarmed to begin with. I mean really, the cold war was over because they tore down a wall?? Peace to everyone, even our enemies.
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IF ANYONE -REMOTELY- KNOWS ANY COMPITANT POLITICIANS PUSH TO END THIS BS
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Idol1 hiding
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Oh yeah baby. Lock and load. We bought the ticket on this shit, now lets take a ride. Total mayhem. And then the meek might really inherit the earth after all.
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Our "leaders" have left us totally unprotected from nuke war destruction and its aftermath(radiation), whereas Russia has built extensive underground shelters for the majority of its population. You would think that that fact would make the Russians feel very secure that we would never strike them first, since our leaders would know that their people would be massacred and thus wouldn't ever do such an evil thing. The fact that Russia seems to be worried means that:
1. They think our leaders would do it anyway.
2. They're afraid our anti-missiles are that good.
3. They're afraid that we have some secret technological "shield" or star wars weapons, and fear that the US is just using the Patriot Missile facillities as a feel-good-potion for European and allies consumption.
4. They're afraid that a massive, unexpected first strike with lazer-guided nukes could destroy their country before gettin off one ICBM, and maybe we have an antidote for their submarines.
5. Maybe they're afraid that the M.A.D. doctrine(mutually assured destruction)is recognized to be false, and they fear that some psychopaths may really believe that 500 million people is all that Earth can sustain, and thus they would be doing humanity and the Earth a favor by gettin rid of the "excess" people, and that Russia's excess needs to be the first to go.
6. Maybe they are just using this as an excuse to ramp up the fear to control their own population, and bordering states(Georgia, Ukraine, etc.) that they can scare back into the fold/flock.
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The leason is that a paper tiger should never bother a spleeping bear. No matter what:


Russia considers nuclear missiles for Syria, Mediterranean, Baltic


DEBKAfile's military sources report Moscow's planned retaliation for America's missile interceptors in Poland and US-Israeli military aid to Georgia may come in the form of installing Iskandar surface missiles in Syria and its Baltic enclave of Kaliningrad.

Russian Baltic and Middle East warships, submarines and long-range bombers may be armed with nuclear warheads, according to Sunday newspapers in Europe.

In Georgia, Russian troops and tanks advanced to within 30 km of Tbilisi Saturday, Aug. 15. A Russian general said Sunday they had started pulling out after president Dimitry Medvedev signed the ceasefire agreement with Georgia and president George W. Bush called again for an immediate withdrawal.

After routing Georgia over the breakaway enclaves of South Ossetia and Abkhazia, Moscow appears to be eying Poland, the Middle East, and possibly Ukraine, as the main arenas for its reprisals.

One plan on the table in Moscow, DEBKAfile's sources report, is the establishment of big Russian military, naval and air bases in Syria and the release of advanced weapons systems withheld until now to Iran (the S-300 air-missile defense system) and Syria (the nuclear-capable 200 km-range Iskandar surface missile).

Shortly before the Georgian conflict flared, Moscow promised Washington not to let Iran and Syria have these sophisticated pieces of hardware.

The Iskander's cruise attributes make its launch and trajectory extremely hard to detect and intercept. If this missile reaches Syria, Israel will have to revamp its anti-missile defense array and Air Force assault plans for the third time in two years, as it constitutes a threat which transcends all its defensive red lines.

Moscow's war planners know this and are therefore considering new sea and air bases in Syria as sites for the Iskander missiles. Russia would thus keep the missiles under its hand and make sure they were not transferred to Iran. At the same time, Syrian crews would be trained in their operation.

DEBKAfile's military sources report Syrian president Bashar Assad will be invited to Moscow soon to finalize these plans in detail.

Military spokesmen in Moscow said Saturday and Sunday that Russian military planners to started redesigning the nation’s strategic plans for a fitting response to America's decision to install 10 missile interceptors in Poland and the war developments in Georgia.

The chairman of the Israeli Knesset foreign affairs and defense committee, Tzahi Hanegbi, spoke out strongly Sunday, Aug. 17, against treasury plans to slash the defense budget. He warned that the military faced grave confrontations in the coming year - possibly on several fronts.

[link to www.debka.com]
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I've read that..THE "TYPHOON", the largest nuclear submarine patrolling the Baltic has a nuclear capacity of 300 nuclear warheads.
Enough to turn Western Europe into an "ash tray"

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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You people have no idea, how bad this really is!!!
 Quoting: voice 485498



WHO CARES!


FUCK THE HUMAN RACE!





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