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OBAMA SUED FOR FAKE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

 
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OBAMA SUED IN PHILADELPHIA FEDERAL COURT ON GROUNDS HE'S INELIGIBLE FOR PRESIDENCY

Date: Friday, 22 August 2008, 2:07 a.m. Thursday, August 21, 2008
Obama Sued in Philadelphia Federal Court on Grounds he is Constitutionally Ineligible for the Presidency

by Jeff Schreiber
America's Right.com

A prominent Philadelphia attorney and Hillary Clinton supporter filed suit this afternoon in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania against Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, the Democratic National Committee and the Federal Election Commission. The action seeks an injunction preventing the senator from continuing his candidacy and a court order enjoining the DNC from nominating him next week, all on grounds that Sen. Obama is constitutionally ineligible to run for and hold the office of President of the United States.

Phillip Berg, the filing attorney, is a former gubernatorial and senatorial candidate, former chair of the Democratic Party in Montgomery (PA) County, former member of the Democratic State Committee, and former Deputy Attorney General of Pennsylvania. According to Berg, he filed the suit--just days before the DNC is to hold its nominating convention in Denver--for the health of the Democratic Party.

"I filed this action at this time," Berg stated, "to avoid the obvious problems that will occur when the Republican Party raises these issues after Obama is nominated.".

Berg cited a number of unanswered questions regarding the Illinois senator's background, and in today's lawsuit maintained that Sen. Obama is not a natural born U.S. citizen or that, if he ever was, he lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia. Berg also cites what he calls "dual loyalties" due to his citizenship and ties with Kenya and Indonesia.

Even if Sen. Obama can prove his U.S. citizenship, Berg stated, citing the senator's use of a birth certificate from the state of Hawaii verified as a forgery by three independent document forensic experts, the issue of "multi-citizenship with responsibilities owed to and allegiance to other countries" remains on the table.

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.

Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

Should Sen. Obama truly have been born in Kenya, Berg writes, the laws on the books at the time of his birth hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. Sen. Obama's mother was only 18 at the time. Therefore, because U.S. citizenship could not legally be passed on to him, Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

Moreover, even if Sen. Obama could have somehow been deemed "natural born," that citizenship was lost in or around 1967 when he and his mother took up residency in Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen. Berg also states that he possesses copies of Sen. Obama's registration to Fransiskus Assisi School In Jakarta, Indonesia which clearly show that he was registered under the name "Barry Soetoro" and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

The Hawaiian birth certificate, Berg says, is a forgery. In the suit, the attorney states that the birth certificate on record is a forgery, has been identified as such by three independent document forensic experts, and actually belonged to Maya Kasandra Soetoro, Sen. Obama's half-sister.

"Voters donated money, goods and services to elect a nominee and were defrauded by Sen. Obama's lies and obfuscations," Berg stated. "If the DNC officers ... had performed one ounce of due diligence we would not find ourselves in this emergency predicament, one week away from making a person the nominee who has lost their citizenship as a child and failed to even perform the basic steps of regaining citizenship as prescribed by constitutional laws."

"It is unfair to the country," he continued, "for candidates of either party to become the nominee when there is any question of the ability to serve if elected."

For more, read the accompanying commentary, Eligibility Goes Beyond Citizenship

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I'm tellin ya.....there is something more fishy here than meets the eye.....Why was Hillary allowed back on the convention ballot......?

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.
Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.
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Just remember this: We are dealin with the Clintons. They play hardball.
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hmm. could be a problem for the Sen. from Ill. er hawaii er indonesia - i mean Kenya. I'm unconvinced that any of these presidential characters are worth a hoot anyway. but ya know, if we're gonna have a shady s.o.b. in the white house, I want him or her to be slick about it. obama is that. mccain isn't. hillary isn't really slick. oh what a mess.

howsabout rowdy roddy piper for prez? is he from here?
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I'm tellin ya.....there is something more fishy here than meets the eye.....Why was Hillary allowed back on the convention ballot......?


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SHR, you're 100% correct
Question is, what the hell is the democratic party hiding?
They're delusional if they think there's some way to make this situation go away. Americans are fed up with the lies and half truths.

There's entirely too much controversy surrounding confirmation of Obama's birth certificate. Was he born an American citizen, or not? How damn difficult is it to cough up the irrefutable evidence?
Rather than provide proof, his campaign continues skirting the issue.
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Just remember this: We are dealin with the Clintons. They play hardball.
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no doubt. and remember bill even said: "Obama can kiss my ass." -feisty!
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And apparently there are questions about McCain's birth status as well...

Maybe they'll cancel the elections cuz nobody was born in the States.


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I'm tellin ya.....there is something more fishy here than meets the eye.....Why was Hillary allowed back on the convention ballot......?

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya,

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Berg is a fucking idiot!



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and what about that bill quote the other day regarding
the constitution has the final word on eligiblity,
can't quote it off the top of my head, but certainly
plausible fodder for speculation in light of this latest
wrinkle, although to tell you the truth if there is
something behind any of this i learn more towards
it being used to force hillary onto the ticket as vp
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its over for barak.
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Good Lord, Democrats are sore losers! Even within their own party.

What a pathetic group of people!
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I'm tellin ya.....there is something more fishy here than meets the eye.....Why was Hillary allowed back on the convention ballot......?




SHR, you're 100% correct
Question is, what the hell is the democratic party hiding?
They're delusional if they think there's some way to make this situation go away. Americans are fed up with the lies and half truths.

There's entirely too much controversy surrounding confirmation of Obama's birth certificate. Was he born an American citizen, or not? How damn difficult is it to cough up the irrefutable evidence?
Rather than provide proof, his campaign continues skirting the issue.
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well, in all fairness, the kenya thing is kind of a b.s. technicality but it does look bad. they hate that. but then combined with the indonesian thing, oh and then the FORGED documents... ahem. i guess he wouldn't really want to bring it up would he?
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its over for barak.
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Hopefully so. He's nothing but a NWO tool.
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yawn...
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I'm tellin ya.....there is something more fishy here than meets the eye.....Why was Hillary allowed back on the convention ballot......?

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.
Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.
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I agree my friend,but here is another view. Don't know anything about Factcheck but they claim they have seen the original birth cert.


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FactCheck.org examined his birth record in person and claims that it is legit.

Berg believes 9-11 was an inside job, which is about as un-American as one can be. He's a nut who files frivolous lawsuits all of the time.

But, if it floats your boat to chase after the lemming leader just like many Barack Obama haters did with the now disgraced lying Larry Sinclair, then that's fine, too.

Good luck!
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Well Obama said that he is a citizen of the World...
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Well Obama said that he is a citizen of the World...
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Just can't run for President of the United States.
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the name and last name should be enough....no?

or would it be different if his name was Carlos Pedro Rodriuez and all of his family was from latin america
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Good Lord, Democrats are sore losers! Even within their own party.

What a pathetic group of people!
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you cant be president if not born here, its illegal.
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The Antichrist must be of Asian Origion ( Obama )? The Messiah and the False Prophet. But who is the false Prophet ?
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I feel like he has had is Presidency anyway. Been to all the sites ... took the cheers. Had fun now its over.
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no wonder hilderbeast was allowed to be put on the nomination ballot.

if hilderbeast or mcCocain gets the presidency we're REALLY fucked and DOOOOMED...SERIOUSLY! they WILL make a nuke war and doom us all!

if they handle obama THIS way then he sure sure isn't one of those completely evil retards and doesn't belongs to the bush/clinton/mccain gang.

they want him out and want hilderbeast to get the nomination...ohhh we're soooo fucked now.

if obama doesn't get the nomination i won't vote. period.

these people have just doomed us and the rest of the world. "well" done fuckwits.
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Toast.

As the law is he has no recourse, should this be true. The money he has taken my oh my this is not going to work for him at all. The Clinton camp might not be pretty but they sure know how to get things done and shield themselves from the doing of it.
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I'm tellin ya.....there is something more fishy here than meets the eye.....Why was Hillary allowed back on the convention ballot......?

In the lawsuit, Berg states that Sen. Obama was born in Kenya, and not in Hawaii as the senator maintains. Before giving birth, according to the lawsuit, Obama's mother traveled to Kenya with his father but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy, "apparently a normal restriction to avoid births during a flight." As Sen. Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed, Berg maintains that Stanley Ann Dunham--Obama's mother--gave birth to little Barack in Kenya and subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth.
Berg cites inconsistent accounts of Sen. Obama's birth, including reports that he was born at two separate hospitals--Kapiolani Hospital and Queens Hospital--in Honolulu, as well a profound lack of birthing records for Stanley Ann Dunham, though simple "registry of birth" records for Barack Obama are available in a Hawaiian public records office.

I agree my friend,but here is another view. Don't know anything about Factcheck but they claim they have seen the original birth cert.


[link to www.factcheck.org]
 Quoting: mathetes


BS
THERE CLAIM IS FROM A CERTIFICATE DATED 2002. ALL THIS SAYS IS SOME HAWAII CLERK FOUND RECORD OF THE ORIG CERTIFICATE.
THE CLERK WAS DUPED!

THIS IS NOT, I REPEAT NOT THE ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE.

THE ORIGINAL HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A FAKE BY THE EXPERTS.
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short video too

[link to obamacom.blogspot.com]
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Good Lord, Democrats are sore losers! Even within their own party.

What a pathetic group of people!
 Quoting: Guns n' God


I agree. Repubs stay loyal to their party no matter what!! Even if they vote in a butt picking monkey as Pres and a lying evil snake as VP they will never admit when their wrong, so they are never losers. What do they do when they know they have made a mistake? Vote the MFers in again.

Dems are a pathetic group.




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no wonder hilderbeast was allowed to be put on the nomination ballot.

if hilderbeast or mcCocain gets the presidency we're REALLY fucked and DOOOOMED...SERIOUSLY! they WILL make a nuke war and doom us all!

if they handle obama THIS way then he sure sure isn't one of those completely evil retards and doesn't belongs to the bush/clinton/mccain gang.

they want him out and want hilderbeast to get the nomination...ohhh we're soooo fucked now.

if obama doesn't get the nomination i won't vote. period.

these people have just doomed us and the rest of the world. "well" done fuckwits.
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He wasn't that great. He left the press to visit the Bilderbergs didn't he?
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Well the COLB seems pretty legit, that whole forgery thing never seemed to have any legs, I didn't think so anyway, just thought that all that was produced for the public was a crappy scan. I really think the whole question is what does it take to get registered as a birth in Hawaii at the time, can you just show up with a baby and register if you have a drivers license? I would think the State Dep't would have, or should have, done an official records search and certification already, obtain the original full birth certificate that is issued by a hospital. Does such a process even exist? if not it should. What happens if a child isn't born in a hospital and there are no records? If there is any question in that case, which there also is in Obama's case, in that it he is born to one parent whom was not a US citizen and it seems that it is accepted that his mother was traveling at the time.

It's not like the guy was born in Montana and grew up there, I think there is some reasonable room to question. I also still think it smells it fishy, or it would have been squashed already, which it could easily be done by either the State Dep't or by the Obama camp themselves, I'm sure he can request a copy of the full detail Birth Certificate.
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